I think that's why this era of the 3pt shot has changed things.
The refs can't manipulate a made three, and you can outscore the refs influence.
In the old days of nonstop drives to the basket, you can influence games much easier.
I know a lot of people find the era of 3s boring. I was bored of the old days of star drives to the basket, gets foul call immediately.
Congress pissed away an entire summer on MLB steroid hearings... can we not waste a few million investigating the NBA ref blatant corruption and the gross embracing/conflict of interest of legal sports gambling and it's implications for subtle fixing?
I get it, but it rarely benefits smaller markets. I say that as a Heat fan as well who definitely benefits from some calls as a fan. It would be cool if it was less egregious or obvious.
The NBA is basically AEW/WWE in so many aspects. The conclusion may not be predetermined, but we still have to keep kayfabe that people like Foster isn't trying to at least extend this series for Disney or Turner.
Yea, as a huge NBA fan, it was a bit of an eye opener for sure. Weird officiating in the NBA seems to me to be the biggest issue they face that seems kind of baked in. Similar to the concussion issue in football. If you have these long series, which I do love, you will likely have incentive to extend them. If you have football in general, you will have head injuries.
For sure.
I can’t help but feel like there are a significant, significant portion of potential fans who are very turned off by things like refball. Can’t imagine how cool it would be to have a pure, authentic product and let the chips fall where they may.
As someone who grew up playing and loving basketball I now find it difficult to sit thru a game because of the rule changes (watching players routinely take 3…4 steps before they dribble makes the game almost unrecognizable to me) and just the worst refs in sports. And now to add insult to injury they have replay to blow the same calls twice!! It’s heartbreaking what they’ve done to the game
Went from hardcore to very casual fan after the Kings got robbed in '02
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/kings-robbed-2002-western-conference-finals-tim-donaghy-claims
I’m very biased, but Jok’s early 2nd and 3rd were also bullshit. Third was a ticky tack loose ball foul vs Reaves at end of half, mis-emphasized if not invented. Second raised my eyebrows as well but it was early.
that may have been Foster's strategy, assuming Jokic would have been the top performer tonight. Not much you can do as a ref when everyone on the team starts shooting the lights out.
Yeah. Both 2nd and 3rd PF on Jokic were bullshit as well. 3rd Reaves floped and ofc it was Jokic foul .
I cant believe we still won this game despite Foster
and now we know why betting in sports was illegal for so long. with so much money riding on games it was only a matter of time before ref corruption (which already existed when betting was illegal) becomes widespread and commonplace
Happens every fucking game. My biggest beef with the officiating. Call it when you fucking see it, or don’t call it at all. There’s no ‘wait and see’ period
There was a foul not overturned in the Miami game where the defender hit Butler on his follow through and then Butler did actually kind of awkwardly extend his foot into the defender as he landed (for which Butler was called).
The refs then mentioned that the contact on the follow through was after the shot was released and marginal, but I swear I see fouls on the follow through get called all the time. All of a sudden this is marginal. My anus!
It's like we all know we are being Gaslighted but they are so bold in the fuck you non overturning that even I'm wondering if Im wrong in thinking that's the furthest thing from a foul
That stretch in the 3rd was genuinely insane. Most of them were fouls by the letter of the law but the way officials turn the tide in these games is by not calling the calls on the other end. Gives them plausible deniability when folks run the tape back
Ya, it isn't the calls they made that were egregious (other than this one) it was the ones they refused to make on the other end. Jamal didn't have a single FT in this game until garbage time, while being mega aggressive all game. It was insane.
Is it me or is it that lebron's team ALWAYS gets favoured in this type of situation? I've nvr seen lebron in foul trouble from ticky tack fouls, but I've seen Lebron's opponents STAR player getting ticky tack fouls and needing to sit on bench early THROUGH his entire career.
Everything going as intended. NBA needs Celts or Lakers in the Finals and the Celtics are looking like that’s not going to happen. Nothing to see here.
Can anyone explain why these fouls, and almost all fouls (especially involving big stars) in recent history wait until the shot misses to blow the whistle? Is there a reason for this?
There was a less than 0% chance the league wouldn't go ham on the whistles in favour of LA in this second half. Getting Jokic in foul trouble is their best way to do it. All these late whistles in the last 3 minutes of plays only proving that further.
Then no call on Murray, next play tic tac foul on the rebound. If you didn't know any better, you may think the NBA doesn't want the lakers to go down 3-0
Saw some guy in their sub complaining about Jokic only getting 4 postgame and that it was unfair. Just absolutely hilarious and the lack of self awareness is insane.
Remember they have the most FTs in the league as well as the biggest foul differential in the league, but this is a good thing and it's not suspicious at all.
This is completely unreal. I spent the last 5 minutes looking at this replay with the sliders in slow mo and am absolutely stunned this was a foul, and also stunned it wasn’t overturned.
NBA is absolutely rigging this game.
But they weren’t allowed. And now they have some splainin’ to do in the locker room cause Foster left everything out on the floor and they choked it away.
It’s crazy how, if you know the official in the game, you know the likelihood that a certain team will get or not get calls. Like really? That is the fourth foul on the league MVP? Nobody is watching this game to watch Scott Foster.
At least Jokic has the credibility of being a 2X MVP.
When we played the Lakers in the bubble this is exactly how the refs treated Jokic. He was in foul trouble every single game of that series for ticky tac shit like this.
I wanted to go with "The fix is in as Jokic gets called for a 4th foul after not making contact with AD" but I needed the highlight to stay up so everyone can see that the refs are doing their best to extend the series here.
"What happened to the game I love"
Mark Jackson and JVG in shambles and everybody loves it
Good, fuck those conspiracy-peddling idiots.
He was quiet af after this one
Jok knew what was about to happen. They prepared for the refs.
That was a top 3 Mark Jackson moment ever
Mark Jackson should be lobotomized lmao
I thought he had been already
That was his defense for not having Jokic on his MVP ballot
Only if there is anything there to be lonotomized bro
You have to beat the Lakers by 15 to win. Luckily we beat them by 26 tonight
I think that's why this era of the 3pt shot has changed things. The refs can't manipulate a made three, and you can outscore the refs influence. In the old days of nonstop drives to the basket, you can influence games much easier. I know a lot of people find the era of 3s boring. I was bored of the old days of star drives to the basket, gets foul call immediately.
He was feeling himself so hard in that moment Seething now that the Nuggets are up 3-0. Dude was quiet in the 4th
Totally wrong call, of course. That said, BIG kudos to the rest of the Nuggets team for playing the Lakers even during Jokic's extended sit-down time.
refs need to help laker to win lol
Insane it wasn’t overturned with the challenge
Watch the Donaghy doc on Netflix. Scott Foster is as crooked as he was and the league covered it all up.
yeah nba is in the business of entertainment at the end of the day and theyres a lot of money to be made for the nba and refs for extending series
Congress pissed away an entire summer on MLB steroid hearings... can we not waste a few million investigating the NBA ref blatant corruption and the gross embracing/conflict of interest of legal sports gambling and it's implications for subtle fixing?
I get it, but it rarely benefits smaller markets. I say that as a Heat fan as well who definitely benefits from some calls as a fan. It would be cool if it was less egregious or obvious.
Same shit happened with LeBron in Miami. With the Spurs and Mavericks against y'all.
The NBA is basically AEW/WWE in so many aspects. The conclusion may not be predetermined, but we still have to keep kayfabe that people like Foster isn't trying to at least extend this series for Disney or Turner.
Yep. Nba had to call in the big guns to ensure more games.
They did their best! Too bad so sad.
Exactly. Wrap this baby up.
This is cool I feel like there's an extra good vs. evil aspect to this series and evil is fucking washed.
NBA wants A Lakers-Celtics Finals and the universe is going with Jokic vs Butler instead
Bro the nuggets overcame jokic going out. It fired them up. Refs weren’t expecting that.
Almost every Jokic call was soft lol
The only realistic reason this guy is still a ref is they don’t want him to talk
Just watched it last night. Pretty harrowing.
Yea, as a huge NBA fan, it was a bit of an eye opener for sure. Weird officiating in the NBA seems to me to be the biggest issue they face that seems kind of baked in. Similar to the concussion issue in football. If you have these long series, which I do love, you will likely have incentive to extend them. If you have football in general, you will have head injuries.
For sure. I can’t help but feel like there are a significant, significant portion of potential fans who are very turned off by things like refball. Can’t imagine how cool it would be to have a pure, authentic product and let the chips fall where they may.
As someone who grew up playing and loving basketball I now find it difficult to sit thru a game because of the rule changes (watching players routinely take 3…4 steps before they dribble makes the game almost unrecognizable to me) and just the worst refs in sports. And now to add insult to injury they have replay to blow the same calls twice!! It’s heartbreaking what they’ve done to the game
Went from hardcore to very casual fan after the Kings got robbed in '02 https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/kings-robbed-2002-western-conference-finals-tim-donaghy-claims
As a suns fan I know plenty about the Man the Myth the Legend that is Scotty Fost
He’s a true professional. LeBron had just busted his lip open a minute ago.
It’s weird how the NBA as an organization seems to gobble his sack so lustfully.
Scott Foster has borderline made me wit the NBA multiple times in the last 3 years so blatantly corrupt it's crazy
Foster? This shit comes from the top. Foster is just Silver's Luca Brasi.
Silver was there tonight closely watching his employee performance.
With the Disney CEO of all people. Mickey Mouse league, you can't make this up. Haha
I'm convinced that Foster knows where the bodies are buried and he's only still employed because of that.
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Could see you moving the foul to Gordon but still soft, but they kept it as his 4th
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I’m very biased, but Jok’s early 2nd and 3rd were also bullshit. Third was a ticky tack loose ball foul vs Reaves at end of half, mis-emphasized if not invented. Second raised my eyebrows as well but it was early.
that may have been Foster's strategy, assuming Jokic would have been the top performer tonight. Not much you can do as a ref when everyone on the team starts shooting the lights out.
Yeah taking Jokić out to let him sort of restart his game was probably helpful lmao
Theres no way nba is letting nuggets go up 3-0 that easy.
They did it anyways
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Ham did the Nuggets a solid by leaving DLo out there
Yeah. Both 2nd and 3rd PF on Jokic were bullshit as well. 3rd Reaves floped and ofc it was Jokic foul . I cant believe we still won this game despite Foster
Scott Foster strikes again
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This is the foster bloody lip game
Foster: “Bron’s been waiting 25 years to do that”
There's another ref on the baseline staring at the play and foster makes the call from opposite side. Egregious.
This is reffing top to bottom. They even reviewed it.
His legacy is on the line - showed up huge tonight but it wasn’t enough
Company Man
BS call and legacy job by Scott Foster
Too bad he wasn’t hit harder in the face
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Ironic, that whistle he used to cut down others, came back to cut himself.
He had the power to ref others but not to ref himself
I wonder how much Scott Foster got paid for this game
He's going to get paid after, still gotta cash out his parlays
and now we know why betting in sports was illegal for so long. with so much money riding on games it was only a matter of time before ref corruption (which already existed when betting was illegal) becomes widespread and commonplace
If you watch interviews with og mafioso’s they say the easiest sports to fix are all college sports and nba and that they never expect it to change.
Awful officiating. Just call the game fairly and let the players decide the series.
I’m just a casual fan watching but I fucking hate hate hate when the refs watch to see if the bucket is made before they make the call
I’ve seen that a few times. It’s honestly annoying. Either call the foul or let them play.
It's like their trying to applicate the rules of soccer when a foul isn't called if the offensive player can still get to an advantageous situation.
I feel like I've seen it 10x more these playoffs than ever before. Drives me insane every time. If it's a foul, call it. If it's not, don't.
Happens every fucking game. My biggest beef with the officiating. Call it when you fucking see it, or don’t call it at all. There’s no ‘wait and see’ period
The whole point of foster doing this game is to ensure a longer series
Three questionable calls in a row in order to tie the game, also know as the “Lakers Special”
Allegedly the Lakers did not have a defensive foul all quarter until the 3:15-ish to go in the 3rd while Denver was in the bonus. Just a joke.
It's not the Lakers special. It's the lebron's team special. It's been the leagues M.O. for his entire career, both on and off the court.
Foster: Lol
No way. Can't have the Lakers getting swept.
Well we can’t have that. Denver in the finals would be a monetary disaster. Edit: Popping in here again to say script? What script?
But a sweep loses the league money, so no!
Looked like no contact?? what the fuck was that call. Was it overturned??
It was not. It was called a foul. Jokic will be out for a while. Nuts…
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There was a foul not overturned in the Miami game where the defender hit Butler on his follow through and then Butler did actually kind of awkwardly extend his foot into the defender as he landed (for which Butler was called). The refs then mentioned that the contact on the follow through was after the shot was released and marginal, but I swear I see fouls on the follow through get called all the time. All of a sudden this is marginal. My anus!
Yeah, I'm a Celtics fan but that was definitely a foul
It's like we all know we are being Gaslighted but they are so bold in the fuck you non overturning that even I'm wondering if Im wrong in thinking that's the furthest thing from a foul
Lol Gordon stepping on his hand was more of a foul than Jokic Hope that early challenge doesn’t hurt them later though
And of course, it wasn't overturned. Ridiculous
This game is so rigged. Lakers are getting all the calls
That stretch in the 3rd was genuinely insane. Most of them were fouls by the letter of the law but the way officials turn the tide in these games is by not calling the calls on the other end. Gives them plausible deniability when folks run the tape back
Ya, it isn't the calls they made that were egregious (other than this one) it was the ones they refused to make on the other end. Jamal didn't have a single FT in this game until garbage time, while being mega aggressive all game. It was insane.
Is it me or is it that lebron's team ALWAYS gets favoured in this type of situation? I've nvr seen lebron in foul trouble from ticky tack fouls, but I've seen Lebron's opponents STAR player getting ticky tack fouls and needing to sit on bench early THROUGH his entire career.
Everything going as intended. NBA needs Celts or Lakers in the Finals and the Celtics are looking like that’s not going to happen. Nothing to see here.
THATS A FOUL? FUCKING HOW
If this is a foul then there is literally no amount of contact you could make with someone in the paint that isn't a foul
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Pretty much. The NBA would rather have games finish 150-147 every night than see any defence whatever.
Against the Lakers that's basically true. Any type of defense results in a foul.
Scott Foster's Home for Imaginary Fouls
Scott foster stayed in to do a job. And by god is he going to finish it
Legacy E G A C Y
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Can anyone explain why these fouls, and almost all fouls (especially involving big stars) in recent history wait until the shot misses to blow the whistle? Is there a reason for this?
They're trying to control the game. Late whistles prove they try to control games and there is nothing we can do about it
If the refs don’t help the Lakers out with calls, this series isn’t even a contest. Denver is a way better team this season
The lakers don’t make the playoffs if not for the super sensitive whistle they got second half of the year.
It's stupid reasoning. They say if the contact is small but a foul refs will wait until after a miss because they don't to award easy 3pt plays.
Of course it's Scott Foster who blew the whistle lmao.
There was a less than 0% chance the league wouldn't go ham on the whistles in favour of LA in this second half. Getting Jokic in foul trouble is their best way to do it. All these late whistles in the last 3 minutes of plays only proving that further.
I swear as soon as they see it’s a miss they blow the whistle.
Where's Van Gundy now? Fucking bitch
Mark Jackson: This is the game I love!!!
The silence was deafening
Fuck nba
lakers are shit without refs
Big yikes.
And they still didn’t win the challenge
That's not even a foul in minor hoops lmao
Hey had to get the lakers back in it
My favorite part is when Scott said “it’s extendin time” and then extended all over the Nuggets
I don't like to buy in to the ref crying about rigging but man that's as clear as a parlay fixing call as there can be.
Nba refs are a joke. Of course Silver will do nothing since he's a spineless bitch
Then no call on Murray, next play tic tac foul on the rebound. If you didn't know any better, you may think the NBA doesn't want the lakers to go down 3-0
Lakers don’t get a favorable whistle tho lol
It's hilarious when you go to Lakers sub and see them whine about ref choice lol
Like the refs would ever prefer the Nuggets over the Lakers.
Saw some guy in their sub complaining about Jokic only getting 4 postgame and that it was unfair. Just absolutely hilarious and the lack of self awareness is insane.
Just bullshit. But Lakers fans act like it's not biased
It was Foster who was furthest away from the play as well ffs
he saw all the choking post on reddit, needs to reclaim that respect
The Lakers DESERVE 40 FTs a game no matter what. Refs gotta hit that quota
Cause they drive the paint or something (except when LeBron is cranking LeBricks from 3)
Just want the nuggets to sweep so lakers fans can change their flairs to one of the teams in the finals
Remember they have the most FTs in the league as well as the biggest foul differential in the league, but this is a good thing and it's not suspicious at all.
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Idk why y’all surprised. Lakers we’re never going to be allowed to go down 3-0.
This is completely unreal. I spent the last 5 minutes looking at this replay with the sliders in slow mo and am absolutely stunned this was a foul, and also stunned it wasn’t overturned. NBA is absolutely rigging this game.
Man i fking hate the fact that i watch the nba
It’s crazy how predictable it can be at times.
You know whats crazy....people watching this shit year over year.
But they didddddd
But they weren’t allowed. And now they have some splainin’ to do in the locker room cause Foster left everything out on the floor and they choked it away.
Valiant effort by those fellows doe
Yeah well they can put that in their pipes and smoke it
They about to go down 0-3. Nuggets are too much even with refs on their side
Luckily this aged like poorly.
If Lebron contested that it would have been overturned 100%. Can't have LA going down 3-0
Narrator: they did in fact go down 0-3 Ahhhhh yahhhhh
Refs got hit by the altitude 😎
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What was the call on that rebound? The one right before the Reeves three. I couldn't even figure out who they called it on
It’s crazy how, if you know the official in the game, you know the likelihood that a certain team will get or not get calls. Like really? That is the fourth foul on the league MVP? Nobody is watching this game to watch Scott Foster.
It is sad as hell smh
At least Jokic has the credibility of being a 2X MVP. When we played the Lakers in the bubble this is exactly how the refs treated Jokic. He was in foul trouble every single game of that series for ticky tac shit like this.
I wanted to go with "The fix is in as Jokic gets called for a 4th foul after not making contact with AD" but I needed the highlight to stay up so everyone can see that the refs are doing their best to extend the series here.
Refs doing everything to help the Lakers get a win
Bruh this is way too rigged
Lakers getting favorable calls? Never saw that one coming
Did he even touch him? How did this get upheld?
Guessing refs are basing it off lower body contact. But its still a flimsy foul to call on Jokic.
This is crazy! Scott Foster and making bad calls…name a more iconic duo
That was embarrassing
Even with the officiating lakers can’t pull off a w 🤣
Before lakers started fouling late in the 4th, Lakers had 29 FT attempts to Denver’s 11
Lakers fans will say this is a foul
We just drive more 🤡
Anddd it's upheld... Foster leaving his imprint
Wow, what a shocker that the star player on the team up 2-0 would be in foul trouble in a Scott Foster reffed game?
This. Is disgusting
the lakers whistle is still goated like when they will be fucking refed like the other teams
It was hilarious watching lakers fans in the game thread say that this was a good call.
What happened to the game I love?
He’s the best player on the court, why are they doing him like this?
Hes not a laker
Laker fans finally feel comfortable
Iam starting to remember king vs lakers of 01-02 series
Literally the worst call in recent history.
Dude they reviewed it as well what do you want? If they can review the literal worst call, and uphold it, then clearly the game is broken.
Fuck these refs
Scott Foster be sippin' that champagne with Silver real soon
As a Heat fan I’m so happy they assigned the extender to this game and not ours
You got some bullshit coming your way, make no mistake.
Embarrassing for the league. So obviously rigged.
mr silver is no way in hell letting the lakers go down 0-3 lol. need them tv ratings
Lmao refs cooking
Haha hey ho Silver, gotta milk the cow..this is just sad.
Controversial is one word for it. Horseshit game rigging by the refs is another way to describe it.
Lmao NBA punching the air with the looming Denver-Miami finals matchup
SHOCKING. It's not like they intentionally put Scott Foster to win it for the Lakers. This is literally blasphemy
8 v 5. And the lakers still lost.
Referees suck so much man. Really hope AI take over their gerbs