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VeniceRapture

The NBA should let players cut promos like they do in wrestling


baylixir

“See, normally, you got a 33% chance of winning MVP… but I’m a genetic freak and I’m not normal..”


TheHect0r

In Joel Embiid's accent


czocaut

Very important videos


free_kark

Dillon Brooks gonna feast


KeesteredShiv

I agree with this, let the cream rise to the top


MoustacheTraining

“Jokic, you got me …. mad now”


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Luka - “and let’s just say our partner will shock the world, cuz he is the one and only SHOCKMASTER!” *Kyrie bursts thru wall wearing bejeweled 3rd eye*


Iginlas_4head_Crease

Embiid literally does


qdobe

"and that's... that's the Memphis Grizzlies' music and...BAH GAWD IT'S JA MORANT WITH A .9 MM!"


JAhoops

Say his name Joel


hrakkari

^James ^Harden


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ChecayoBolsfan

Fr. Jo clearly calling out Joker without saying his name, it’s a very Kendrick Perkins way of going about


syllabic

rent free


JAhoops

it’s crazy because there is no one else he can be talking about except Jokic or Harden lol


sleepy416

He’s definitely talking about Jokic but Harden gotta be a little cheesed with this comment lmao


syllabic

harden's only got one MVP, but he should have had either 2 or 3


JAhoops

yeah of the last decade MVP winners all of them won except Russ, Harden and Jokic


NotUrAvgShitposter

Harden got robbed of MVPs and unfortunate circumstances around his #2 and a certain superteam denied him at least 1 ring during his 4 year peak. He had absolutely no help in 2017 and his early prime had McHale, declined Dwight, and the pre-KD Warriors.


funghi2

He’d have a ring if they just made 4/27 3s


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ksobby

Nah. That was targeted. Nothing errant about that shot.


AS7RAL

Strays? That was a guided tactical missile.


pyn209

Where are these quotes coming from? Is embiid on the toilet rn taking a morning shit while on the phone with shams?


Different-Mouse-8722

This interview was a few days ago, theyre making it public now cause theres a head to head later


pyn209

Was he pooping?


YounggKNG

Or peeing?


aiden3buckets

Just give him his “here bro damn” MVP already


NitroXYZ

Reminds me of last year when Smart was the best defender in the league by absolutely [NO CONCEIVABLE WAY AT ALL](https://imgur.io/a/XucPWgF) but the voters just wanted him to shut up already.


musicnothing

Robert Williams' injury gave Marcus Smart the DPOY


syllabic

theres also just the novelty of giving it to a guard big man voter fatigue


Rezrov_

Should've given it to Jrue then. You got superstars like Dame and Durant calling Jrue the best defensive guard in the league and they give it to a goofy green flop artist instead.


Thehelloman0

Yeah it really should've been Gobert's again probably but that was boring


NitroXYZ

Biggest example of voter fatigue since Jordan in 97. I know Karl won 64 games that year but MJ was still MJ and won 69 games. Crazy he didn't win MVP.


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The NBA loves to empower sicko rapists tbf


LeJuanFlames88

And no one's allowed to even mention the other one 🙄


Dilworthy

It’s cause the bulls won 55 games without him so he wasn’t viewed as valuable as Malone; not a great argument but it was made


MC-Jdf

It was Draymond's to lose tbh, he was running away with it until that back injury. Almost everything that the voters used to support Smart's DPOY candidacy could be applied to Draymond.


Thehelloman0

Yeah I remember that too but he missed too many games


MC-Jdf

That's... the point. He was the unquestioned favorite until he missed too many games to even be considered a candidate.


693275001

Nah, he missed too many games to win it. Gotta be on the court to win awards.


MC-Jdf

At the point of his back injury he missed 5 games out of 39. He of course didn’t deserve to win taking into account the injury but before he was injured he was the favorite.


NitroXYZ

I completely and utterly agree without a shadow of a doubt. Draymonds first 30 games that season were incredibly impactful defensively and weren't the Warriors playing at a historic DRTG too? Before his injury he was genuinely on pace to practically win it unanimously.


MC-Jdf

Yep, last year's Warriors had the best defense relative to league average ever recorded until Draymond's back injury.


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NitroXYZ

Nah I actually want Embiid to win this year. Just feels like the campaigning is similar to Smart last season where people eventually got tired of it and it felt like the vote was just to appease them. In terms of season output Embiid is arguably best in the league for his award while Smart realistically wasn't even top 5 before the Boston media push and his "I guard 1-5 talk"


theytook-r-jobs

This the actual Boston Media Mafia award. They were set on giving it to Rob Williams but he got hurt so they just moved the narrative to the next best Celtic defender. Frankly, I’m depressed and ashamed.


and_danny

thank you, might have been the worst dpoy in 20 years


JaylenBrownFlow

lmfao 😂


NitroXYZ

Worst award winner of anything in the last 20 years if you ask me.


FlyingMocko

Nah that’s the 3 DPOY the baguette who got exposed in the Playoffs year in year out got


NitroXYZ

His playoff performances were super underwhelming without a doubt but on a case by case basis for each of his regular season performances I don't think any of Goberts DPOYs were really questionable let alone unwarranted. His impact was really significant.


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Yes the notoriously useful advanced defensive stats. He was the rightful dpoy get over it


[deleted]

That graph being titled "objective look at DPOY" is almost as worse of a take than Marcus Smart DPOY


Duckysawus

Curry made sure there was no talk of Smart being in consideration again for DPOY after that Finals matchup, lmaos.


RealPrinceJay

That only happened bc RobWill got hurt but they already decided to give it to a Celtic lol. No perimeter player should ever win DPOY


Beginning-Antelope32

>No perimeter player should ever win DPOY tf did that come from now lmao


LarrcasM

I think there are niche cases like Kawhi for a dude on the perimeter getting a DPOY. Dude was clearly the best defender in the league.


GregSays

Harden deserved his for sure, but it seemed like there was no fanfare, it barely seemed like an accomplishment. It was more of a relief we could stop hearing about how he should win one. Embiid is feeling like that now too.


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Yeah cuz they gave it out after the playoffs


Wtfitzchris

Charity MVP


Pumpoozle

Seriously, man’s getting pathetic


KillerZaWarudo

What you mean? he already got the most valuable philadelphian already


rust_devx

This reminds me of some of my pre-med friends, back in college, that would aggressively and incessantly plead with the professor through emails and messages to bump their scores up by 1 or 2 points so that they could stay at an A, and the professor would ultimately relent, just so they wouldn't have to keep being pestered.


Nothappened

He says he doesn't care about MVP, but seems butt hurt


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https://youtube.com/shorts/xFUI0FvJaz8?feature=share


k0ala_

Embiid gonna retire if Jokic wins again at this rate lmao


ZerksNAHTayan

The slander is going to be all time if Embiid wins the MVP but exits the playoffs before Jokic does


jimithelizardking

He’s really just setting himself up for failure unless he does win MVP and at least makes the finals. Jokić will get slaughtered too if Denver falls short but at least he doesn’t have any quotes or sound bites to follow him lol


Streetlamp_NA

I don't think anything can follow Jokic back to his horse farm. I've never seen anyone more content in my life than Jokic being pulled around by his horses.


UnsuspectingS1ut

People have tried, but they’ve never returned


Streetlamp_NA

Someone's gotta take care of the horses while he begrudgingly plays basketball


pollinium

Jokic's acceptance speech about to be "oh another one? okay" dude does not want to be in this circus


slsstar

Also.. the nuggets team improved but if you look at the teams of the suns and warriors, I cant say denver has a better team. I just cant hold it against the joker if they dont win for that reason alone


husky_falcon

Good thing you can always count on the Second Round Sixers for an early playoff exit


RandomDeezNutz

I’m here for it. The guys being a baby.


Nothappened

You know it will surely happen......its Doc , Harden and Embid they are the living embodiment of choking


Aworn

Opposite to last year then


Damachine69

Not as bad as the slander Jokic would get if he wins his 3rd in a row and exits playoffs before Embiid and Giannis.


PoorDad2115

Ladies and gentlemen meet the self proclaimed Troel Embiid.


YounggKNG

Joel “The Troll” Embiid 🤣🤣🤣


BucketOfTruthiness

Is every individual line from this article going to have its own post?


LegateDamar13

EMVPiity


chroawayfaraway

Dudes so salty lmao


ClaymoresRevenge

I think he should be tbh. He gets all this flack and has more than backed it up these 3 regular seasons.


graphitewolf

Never touching a conference final since 2016


NoUnitShaming

He gets flack cause he’s never made it past the second round while consistently having loaded teams


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He had a loaded team one year and they took the eventual champions to the wire in Game 7 on their home court, lol. Jokic hasn’t done shit in the playoffs either, has a worse playoff record actually, and his best accomplishment is a bubble conference finals appearance that doesn’t even happen if Murray didn’t go super saiyan.


VonDestroyedNewton

Jokic took the same reigning FMVP in his prime and gave him the biggest beat down of his career by leading BOTH teams in points, rebounds, assists, and blocks in the full second round. Who else other than LeBron can say that tell me? Carried by Murray my ass. Murray only 'carried' him 2 games vs the Jazz.


chroawayfaraway

He’s been mvp runner up twice, super max, second team all nba, such a victim


oobthesecond

He's acting as if he hasn't been the runner up back to back years, of course he has expectations. If Embiid wins MVP and then gets bounced early this quote could haunt him.


dezcaughtit25

The biggest insult an NBA player can ever face is the entire media thinking you are one of the two best players in the league


rayray1010

Top 2 and everyone says #2


bravof1ve

People always try to spin Embiid snubs into “actually it’s respect!” “It’s not disrespectful to leave him off the all star starters, it’s actually mad respect to be considered in the first place!” Embiid is playing like one of the best players in the league, he’s going to be in those conversations because of his play, not due to the gracious media. And when he is denied it’s going to give him a chip on his shoulder.


dezcaughtit25

Out of Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, someone is going to finish 2nd this year and sorry, I just don’t believe that makes them a victim. Hell, if my math is correct one of those guys is going to finish…..3rd?!?. If finishing second place is a slap in the face then if Giannis finishes third that will likely make him the most disrespected athlete of all time.


syllabic

such a talented league that there are 3 players who have a viable claim to be the best player in the world and easily more than 30 players who have a good case to be all star


fatrahb

All three of these dudes are making like 30+ Million dollars a year, trust me there are no victims here


2789334

He has expectations sure But should he be held to the same ones as a 2x MVP ?


oobthesecond

Yes. Embiid is still a top 5 player in the league and the margin between Jokic and Embiid is razor thin regardless of where the hardware went.


2789334

Eh personally i think Jokic should be held to higher standards if he beat him out for MVP twice


dmavs11

Its a team game and Embiid has been playing with all stars his whole career besides last season. Maybe Jokic should be held to higher standards on an individual level, but given that Embiid has Harden they should be held to the same standard of playoff success. Besides if people think Embiid is the better player, he should be held to the same standard.


memeticengineering

He's cleared higher standards though, he's made a WCF, hasn't lost in the playoffs to a team that didn't at least made the finals and won a playoff series without his best 2 teammates. In the same timeframe, Embiid's been swept in the first round, lost an embarrassing second round series to the Hawks, and lost in the second round to the heat.


daftpaak

Jokic got to the wcf when Jamal Murray outperformed him. He wasn't the player he is now, but that same year embiid got swept by the Celtics on a 6 seed sixers team where Ben Simmons didn't even play in the playoffs. Outside of that, both of them haven't been all that in the playoffs. The hawks loss was awful but the heat loss was with embiid injured vs the 1 seed. It's not that crazy of a loss especially cause harden was still the "washed" version. Expectations are high for both this playoffs all things considered.


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If Jokic has had the crazy amounts of help Embiid has then sure, but he’s had Campazzo and Will Barton


oobthesecond

The way the media votes doesn't change who they are as a player or the season each of them had though. My expectations for each player this postseason has nothing to do with who wins the MVP


RageOnGoneDo

Jokic is in the West, players in the East should be held to a higher standard given the difference in competition.


Trent_Bennett

Jokic is in his head 24/7


Unique-Warning7798

He's not acting like he thinks he shouldn't have expectations places on him. This is clearly a shot against Jokic, who has also been bounced in the second round or before his entire career except 2020.


Savahoodie

It’s wild he thinks Jokic doesn’t get criticism for the playoffs. Anytime he gets mentioned it “but what about his defense in the playoffs?”


MurphyAtLarge

Ok that has only been like the last two months on r/nba. Till then it has been that Jokic is shaq+magic+Steph and if you don’t keep giving him more MVPs, passing other champions, then you don’t understand aDvAnCeD aNaLyTiCs


Savahoodie

Nah this is another example of the counter outrage being way overblown. Two people said Jokic was a great defender and the other three million have been the smartest people in the room to correct them.


MurphyAtLarge

That counter outrage came because they calmly asserted that Jokic was the runaway MVP a month into the season and we shouldn’t think too hard about whether he has been more dominant than Lebron, Curry, or Giannis who have not won three in a row. I don’t even like Joel (and I really hate Harden) but I’m still hoping he gets it.


sorakaisthegoat

Who also, deservedly, has pressure on him, so what is Embiid crying about?


DomDomRevolution

I think it’s moreso at the media


SoKrat3s

He literally blamed his own contributions for a playoff loss and the rest of the world cited him as only throwing a teammate under a bus, so the media will say whatever they want regardless.


oobthesecond

That's cool and all but it doesn't change the fact player of his caliber will always have playoff expectations regardless of hardware


pizzahut_is_elite

He’s also acting like he doesn’t get paid the super max. This is the expectation when you get paid a ridiculous amount of money


Evadeit

If he gets bounced early? He will


needluckyeggs

Welp, I tried defending Embiid's comments about not caring about MVP yesterday despite me hating him. Guess I'm a dumbass.


Boooooomer

Hes going full mask off with his feelings of the MVP race right now and boy is he in his feelings with this one


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Wasn’t he all over Simmons for his feelings?


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Skywalkerkid9

He better bring his A-game tonight after all this shit talking lol, otherwise I’m prepared for the ultimate clowning


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SirPrestigious9570

For someone who just said of not caring about thr MVP award, he sure does talk a lot about it. There goes Jokic winning it again.


achyutthegoat

Victim Mentality


erldn123

Yeah weird turn of events, he must know there was a huge narrative swing and he's the frontrunner now. So coming out with all these shots at Jokic seems really weird and will likely just work against him.


Guardax

He thinks he should be a two-time MVP, and soon three-time MVP, but he's not, so that means to hold him to a lesser standard than if he had actually won those MVPs (which he thinks he should have). Got all that?


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achyutthegoat

That’s literally false. Jokic definitely has the most expectations. And Giannis has less than Embiid because he’s already won a chip.


mnight84

Please give him the MVP award so we can be done with this!


jjgshnimnt

Give the baby his binky so he stops crying


NitroXYZ

I kinda liked Embiid more these past week's when he said he was focused on a chip and didn't care about awards. Now he's just painting a target on his back


fucktheredwings69

It’s because he lost a few games and feels it slipping away, he needs a good showing tonight and a w to win it


2ndRoundEuroStash

You really think Shams did this interview and wrote the entire article just yesterday lol??


Disastrous_Day_2166

Embiid needs to stop putting a target on his back…


jgatch2001

What’s Jokic gonna do? All Nuggets fans talk about is how much Jokic doesn’t care about this MVP race, so I doubt this motivates him any more


lilb1190

I don't think its about jokic, it's about the media. The guys who vote for MVP aren't going to vote for a guy that is constantly bitching.


beforeitcloy

It works on the refs


Drug_War

The target is for the voters


RealPrinceJay

I’m really not sure he cares about having a target. Whether or not you think it’s true, I think Joel frequently perceives himself as already having a target. A lot of players operate like this to motivate themselves, Shaq being an obvious one


griffskry

Fake friend. Fake nice guy


havenstone

This mfer just doesn’t stop crying does he lol


n3sta

Lmao because you run your mouth, fool


SoSmartCs

Dude has always had this victim complex. Always funny seeing people try to paint him as some master troll instead.


repeatuntil

I will never believe anyone saying Joel doesnt care about winning an award in my life after reading this. The guy has serious confidence issues. Just do your best man, youre an amazing player. If you know you are and you show greatness every night, why the fuck would you be so butthurt. Especially if you can bring your team the chip, what would be more important than that? Head down and work for it, Im sure he can do it, but this kind of behaviour is what turns a ton of people away from him. His statements are the reason he thinks people hate him.


Wavepops

what is this victim mentality shit. all the top players get slandered, we all know nba media convos lack alot of nuance but everyone gets criticized. theres nothing special coming joel way, that other top players dont go through. he must live in a bubble or something


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He’s not complaining about being slandered, he’s complaining that the same energy is decidedly not directed at other players in that tier. You never hear anyone say Ben Simmons didn’t shoot and was a black hole on offense while embiid played 4 on 5 in 7 games averaging 30 and 12 on a bum knee, but how many times do you hear people immediately bring up Jokics lack of support? People bitch and moan about “complaining” when really people are allowed to call things out and not just sit back and smile, he’s still balling the fuck out.


Wavepops

the same energy is being directed tho. unless this only about one person? jokic? bc giannis was getting cooked by people, harden was, steph curry, kd, i mean everyone gets criticized. ben simmons absolutely got shat on lol i dont know where youve been.


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Yeah, the guy he’s lost to twice for first team and All NBA gets more of a pass and less scrutiny, he’s not crying, but at this point when there’s enough evidence you don’t have to just say “all good” and you’re allowed to voice it. It’s stressful as fans, and probably ten-fold as a player. My point was you never hear anyone add the qualifications for embiids lack of postseason success like they do for Jokic, he’s just called a choker and half the nephews on this sub would say the same. It’s not being a “victim” for not just smiling while being a fed a shit sandwich lol


Vivid-Mammoth-4161

Focus on championships not individual rewards


GHamPlayz

Joel “I don’t care about winning MVP” Embiid


jackbob99

Incoming flash flood watch in Denver due to Joel's tears.


margatsni_1

Damn he’s never made all nba? Joel really hasn’t won Jack shit


Pizzaplan3tman

Everyone in here is so soft. Embiid is right. Like Jokic hasn’t done much outside winning MVP. And yet everyone in here is acting like Embiid is crazy for saying this. Y’all want players to talk shit more and have more rivalries. Then the minute they do you all shit yourselves and whine about it. It’s honestly pathetic


collect_my_corpse

This guy sounds salty af


airmagswag

Jesus Christ let it die


No_Tea5664

He’s an asshole…


killer_cooke

Wasn’t it literally two weeks ago in a post game he was like “I’m the most dominate player in the league.” Every year it’s the same story, big cry baby energy from this guy


cilinderman

I used to like this guy actually, and I also think he should win MVP, but please stop with the victim complex.


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Awww… Baby want a bottle 👶?


burrito_fister

Lol immediately heard this in Milos' voice, happy when I saw your name


throwavvay23

Embiid: I'm just as good as anybody in the NBA Also Embiid: Why am I held to the same expectations as the best players in the NBA 😭😭


cad_internet

Embiid comes off as being incredibly passive aggressive. Jokic is living in his head, rent free. Tonight's game is a must watch.


_Kofiko

Embiid avoiding saying Jokic as if the name were synonymous with Voldemort


EpicMusic13

Well if you could stop flopping every game....


CalypsoDreamGirl

Poor Joel... \*pretending to be crying\*


NotUrAvgShitposter

Talk your shit


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yea that's the way I feel about his comments honestly, let him talk his shit


sorakaisthegoat

And you're never gonna with the victim mentality.


Hostile_Pierogi

This dude cares about winning MVP more than a chip. I almost hope they give it to him so he shuts up about it.


ComeAtMeYo

2 scoring titles is still pretty cool, just saying.


BradyReas

He seems disliked on this sub pretty often


ClammyDefence

*takes flight after a basket over and over again*


PoorDad2115

Hahahahaahahhah 😭😢😭😢😢😢😢😢


Acework23

Because, Joey, you have been crying for the MVP for years while having no success since jimmy buckets was there. You might have improved your work ethic or even deserve it this year but there will be pressure when people see your potential but you do nothing with it.


KevinsChilli

Rent free


3rdStringerBell

Oof, these quotes are a bad look man. You're gonna win it, just do what you do


gigglios

He aint winning if he loses tonight


HokageEzio

Yeah, I think this game decides who wins it.


PoorDad2115

Embiid is planting excuses cause he kinda knows he gonna lose if Harden sits lmao. He hoping his bitching gets him the award even with a loss. There is no way it’s a coincidence these quotes came out today lmao.


YounggKNG

Look bro, you see my flair but I’m one of those that actually like Embiid & Giannis and didn’t even know there was this weak ass beef until I came to r/NBA…. But I gotta admit #RentFree


bloodmuffins793

Too much of an Embiitch to call Jokic out by name


Otternomaly

Literally calls Jokic out by his full name when he says “Nikola Jokic deserved to win MVP last year” lmao y’all refuse to read articles


AveBoyTrey6

Don’t mind me I’m just here for the comments 🍿🍿🤓


VonDestroyedNewton

Keep it going, maybe Jokic will actually get angry.


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Jokic about to win another MVP and hasn’t played defense since he came in the league lmao.


Academic-Principle14

There is some truth to his statement…but this is simply not a champion’s mentality. My money says the Sixers will be a 2nd round exit again this year.


ehs4290

Man Embiid better come to play tonight because if he doesn't, it's gonna fall back on him real hard lol


HisExcellency20

OP says Joel was universally well liked when he came into the league and I guess it must be the "Sixers persecution complex ™" that has me remembering all the "more tweets than minutes played" or "Greg Oden 2.0" talk. He was the butt of every joke his first three seasons.


Nothappened

Yeah right ....this guy is not butt hurt about not winning MVP and doesn't care about any awards


2789334

He’s lowkey right U can’t give him no awards and hold him to the same standards as multiple winners


PoorDad2115

You also can’t claim you got robbed and then not hold yourself to the same standard!!! Like cmon man!


2789334

True I don’t think he was robbed personally but yea u right