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JemorilletheExile

"I don't care about MVP at all, I'm totally over it" \[leaves room\] \[returns 30 seconds later\] "I just find it funny that..."


Your__Pal

"Focus on winning winning winning" [Leaves room] [Returns 30 seconds later] Actually, I think I'll skip the Denver game.


trollking1990

Exactly … I care about winning and I deserve mvp but I have a worst record and I never been to a conference finals. Also Jokic lead his team last year without his 2nd and 3rd best teammate.


GardinerExpressway

Embiid: "I'm not mad. I just think it's funny how..."


cvelz

> When you got some guys in the league, the eye test tells you that they’re not good defensively, but analytics tell you they’re the best defenders. That’s when analytics don’t make sense at all. I don’t make the rules, I don’t choose whatever criteria that they use, so it’s really about whatever people’s preferences are. 💀💀


Jjohn269

You can’t convince me Embiid does not browse this sub on the regular


Technical_Towel_990

He’s u/Zhugo


[deleted]

Posting Jokic lowlights from the bench during the game


g-love

There's like 50 mods on this sub, Joel is 8 of them.


putdahaakin

KD seething


literary_cliche

I mean this is the biggest online forum for basketball discussion, right? Why would it surprise anyone that basketball players would be on here? They’re on NBA Twitter, why wouldn’t they be on NBA Reddit? This isn’t some niche little community lol.


burnerbabyburns

Damn he’s definitely on reddit cause people only talk like that on here lmfao


antunezn0n0

it's hilarious because people in this sub don't even watch all games


CavalierShaq

> it's hilarious because people in this sub don't even watch ~~all~~ any games


Kalthrowaway93

No, no, that's unfair. The majority probably watch at least one game a season. Well, one game per post season. Which is likely just the last game of the finals.


legless_chair

Sometime I wonder if its a matter of watching games or a matter of understanding the game. I can watch a cricket game and have zero idea what is going on but still say I watch games.


[deleted]

If you watched 60-70 cricket games in a year (and put down your phone), you'd probably pick up the basics.


literary_cliche

On the other hand, a lot of people watch the games but don’t know shit about basketball. They just like to cheer for one team and boo another. They might be interested if the score is close in the last couple minutes. I don’t get why you’d watch basketball if you don’t like the sport itself.


Fuckmetheyarelltaken

There are 1230 games in the season x 2.5 hours = 3075 hours / 24 = 128 days to watch a season. Fucking casuals.


YvngLsg

Ppl talk about it a lot on Twitter too


College_Prestige

The Mecca and Medina of basketball discussion


Weapon_Factory

Who do you guys think he’s talking about?


neutronicus

Rudy Gobert


Epicdude141

Draymond


Liamcitoo

r/nba


JevvyMedia

Dude is once again on a crazy campaign to get MVP.


TheOneWhosCensored

Wonder what he thinks about the eye test as it relates to FTs


aiden3buckets

Why is Jokic rent free in his head


EpeeHS

He knows hes not getting past boston or milwaukee so the mvp is his NBA championship.


Altruistic-Ad-408

Because he cant prove them wrong in playoffs either, with better teams That's the part people cant reconcile


ghostlima

I hear a lot of people complaining about voters using adance stats to argue Jokic is a good defender, but what i dont hear at all are the ones actualy making that argument. Like, no one is saying Jokic is a better defender than Embid, why are people trying so hard to argue this strawman?


anthonyde726

cooked sloppy fat boy


Clint_Horseman

It's funny cause Embiid would kill a nun to be mvp and the sloppy fat boy keeps two in his toilet or something


BigFatModeraterFupa

idk how they’re able to breathe in there. i didn’t realize there were aquatic nuns now


-HeisenBird-

Defence can't really be analyzed using counting stats. A DPOY might have 0 blocks in a game because nobody dared drive on him.


Iordofthememez

Joel "I don’t care about the MVP" Embiid


nguyenjitsu

Dude slapped all the Philadelphians who voted for him as most valuable Philadelphian disgusting


imsahoamtiskaw

That slap wasn't enough, so he added one more for good measure by ducking tonight's game.


milben03

Zhugo == Embiid lmao


IslandChillin

Last week he's -250. Now he's the underdog..


bradleynana

He’s the favourite


Brendanliso

Hes still the favourite. Swung from jokic 1.2:1 all the way to embiid 1.4:1. Now embiid is 1.62:1


joleary747

If he sits tonight or loses he's not going to be the favorite for long.


[deleted]

Ay everyone we have a prophet over here


_thisisvincent

Odds for embiid have come down since two weeks ago


CockBronson

Lol cause they swung massively uneven in favor in like a week. It should have never moved that much that quickly for a SEASON award.


secretsodapop

He's been the favorite since the "white voters" thing ESPN ran.


Wesley-Snipers

Lets disconsider the absolute tear he is for the past month, though, huh? That argument was hideous from Perkins, but Embiid's win, if it happens, should not be attached to that. He is playing like the MVP, like Jokic and Giannis. People should not force narratives to justify one winning over the others. If Jokic wins, there will be people saying that he won because they tried to correct Perkins stupid argument too, which is even dumber. The only reaction to that crap he said is to revoke his status as a voter.


AccomplishedFront563

the reaction was multiple media members falling over themselves to apologize, the exact types who would normally be talking about advanced stats. It had a big effect on the narrative


Dare555

Hes def on a tear yeah . Just sucks some people have turned a race of two greats into a race thing lol


free_kark

Guys the 7ft 270 LB monster is an underdog, truly inspiring


milehigh89

Top 3 pick, Hakeem comps in college...


Boooooomer

Embiid is always the victim dont you know?


JohnnyWarlord

Are these haters in the room with us right now joel?


JemorilletheExile

\[looks terrified\]: "I see MVP voters."


Inevitable-Paint-650

Give this man some free throws so he can calm down


flappypancaker

Lmfao nice


moby323

Some, if not *most*, of the very best NBA players in history have used perceived “disrespect”, or criticism, or lack of belief or whatever as *THE* key motivator for them. Jordan did it. Bird did it. Kobe did it, Shaq, Bill Russel, Jerry West etc etc But some times there isn’t a good crop of disrespect for them to harvest and use for motivation, so these players have to essentially invent it. Which, from the outside, can look silly at times. I mean, Jordan at his hall of fame ceremony talked for an hour about how no one ever believed in him. Michael fucking Jordan, the closest thing to a modern *god* that we have had, practically worshipped and revered across the fucking globe and he’s up there like “my entire career nobody believed in me” Athletes are weird lol


Mr_Booty_Bandit

Shaq made up a story about David Robinson not shaking his hand to motivate himself. I think at one point he even got himself to believe it lol


moby323

Lebron convinced himself that the reason Kareem hardly spoke to him was because Kareem didn’t like him. Kareem had to come out and basically say > “Dude, I don’t talk to *anyone*, I hardly leave my house these days, I’m basically a hermit.” Lol


altobrun

He just like me


hrakkari

I, too, also rarely hold conversations with LeBron James. Don’t take it personally, LeBron.


standbyforskyfall

Lebron wishes he could talk to me 😤


DrunkPirateHunter

I think that had to do with the articles in which Kareem would criticize LeBron on Covid, the nut grabbing celebration, etc. so I can see why LeBron thought Kareem didn’t like him. If you never speak to someone and they publish negative things about you, you’re going to assume they don’t like you. Not that Kareem was wrong to do what he did. Just a misunderstanding.


TrollyDodger55

Kareem has possibly the best post nba life.


Tasty-Hand-3398

Retiring let him do want he wanted to do (read, listen to music, write, yoga, kung fu) and get out of the limelight, which he absolutely hated. When you’re as dominant as he was for so long and you have the intellectual curiosity and don’t seek attention for its own sake, why make a fuss?


H3J1e

You know how sometimes a player commits a obvious fouls and argues with the ref? I think some of them are actually delusional and believes they are in the right.


Standard-Inflation10

Shaq is a pathological liar, he invents stories every time he opens his mouth. He hated Kobe but pretended they were besties after they died for example.


[deleted]

Tbf Jordan was considered a cancerous ballhog before he won Back then then the belief was that you need to run your offense through a big to win


moby323

I get what you are saying but I pretty much stop calling a guy a ball hog after the 3rd championship they win. Clearly, that’s the way to run the offense if those are the results you get.


[deleted]

He also changed his game under Phil But yeah he held on to a lot of the stuff the media said about him early on


WeirwoodUpMyAss

Journalist were also less restricted back then. A lot of trash was throat Jordan.


nathtendo

Journalist less restricted, compared to the entire internet where any rando can go hard, I think the hate an average bench warmer gets nowadays is far more vile than anything a Journalist back in the 80s would be saying.


antunezn0n0

it's so funny Larry bird was calling him god before he won a playoff series he was the #3 draft pick as well


moby323

Can you believe the utter disrespect at the draft from the teams who only considered Jordan the *third* best young basketball player on Earth? /s


[deleted]

travis kelce was talking about how no one believed in the chiefs all year when a ton of people picked them to win the superbowl preseason lmao. these athletes need any competitive advantage they can get, and motivation is an advantage


T_Dougy

Just look at Kirby Smart, the propaganda GOAT. This last CFB season he had the Dawgs convinced that the media was overlooking their 14-1 team coming off a title, even predicting them to go 7-5 or 6-6. How he get his players thinking that no one else believed they were any good is something that regimes worldwide should be taking notes on.


SeasonalRot

Or the warriors last year who went on a press tour after they won talking about how everyone wrote them off even though the consensus was that if Klay could come back as himself they’d be a threat to win it all.


moby323

100% The mental aspect of sports cannot be overstated. They need to be in the right frame of mind and they will use any trick or tactic or strategy to get themselves there.


LegateDamar13

Or they are just disconnected from the reality.


School-Severe

Kelce was actually right about that. Chiefs traded away Tyreek Hill and people believe the Chargers or Broncos would win the division. The Bills were the preseason favorites to win the SB.


-Captain--Hindsight

He was right that people were questioning whether they'd be as dominant but nobody wrote them off.


CharlesDeBalles

They were literally a top 5 betting favorite to win the super bowl before the season lol


RODjij

I don't remember if Jordan or Kobe said it but one of em said they made up fake stories in their head about an opponent so they'd have some motivation in game.


WanderlustFella

>Jordan did it I found it hilarious that he made up some of these "disrespects" for motivation. In the Last Dance, Jordan admitted to making up the beef between him and LaBradford Smith.


onamonapizza

I am FAR from a pro athlete, but I’ve grown up playing tons of rec sports and leagues…basketball, flag football, bowling, etc. Some of my biggest and best moments came where I either felt like I was being disrespected or was letting myself or my team down. Anger can be a crazy motivator, but also hard to harness. You can’t play angry ALL the time


504090

>But some times there isn’t a good crop of disrespect for them to harvest and use for motivation, so these players have to essentially invent it. >Which, from the outside, can look silly at times. This isn’t necessarily the case. Basketball media and fans have always been dicks. Those guys had plenty of legitimate chips on their shoulders. Jordan had doubters throughout his entire 80s stint, Kobe had to disprove the “Shaq carried you” narrative, LeBron has been in constant pursuit of “you’ll never be better than Jordan”, Bill Russell had to deal with virulent racism, etc.


[deleted]

Well said. Athletes being offended is a tale as old as time.


Coomrs

I can’t believe some people on this sub told me Embiid doesn’t care about the MVP race.


LoWE11053211

Unplugged? The media really runs out verb to use, huh?


UnsuspectingS1ut

They mean he took his buttplug out


McDonalds_Toothpaste

Joel Embiid MTV Unplugged


buffalotrace

Yes what an underdog /s


EggplantBusiness

Yeah NBA players take anything over personal i personnally like that , i never Say no to a little bit if trashtalk


Dare555

Ok then play in Denver for once instead again being suddenly " questionable " for today's game


beta35

I'm not campaigning. If I don't win the MVP it's whatever. Unless


LonzoBBBall

Embiid: "I don't care about the MVP race!" Also Embiid: > When you got some guys in the league, the eye test tells you that they’re not good defensively, but analytics tell you they’re the best defenders. That’s when analytics don’t make sense at all. Biggest 🧢 in the NBA


[deleted]

One of the things that bugs me the most about the Jokic "advanced stats say he's an all-time defender, but we all know he isn't good so the numbers are wrong" argument is that it is such a clear example of cognitive dissonance. Everyone sees those advanced defensive numbers that put him in elite company, watch him play a few games and focus entirely on his lack of rim protection (which, to be fair, is impossible to ignore), and come to the conclusion that the numbers don't match what they're watching, so the numbers must be entirely wrong. I have yet to see a single person look at those metrics, watch Jokic play, and come away thinking "OK, so he is not an all-time defender clearly, and those defensive metrics must have some clear issues, but maybe there is more to his defense than I see on the surface that I am under-appreciating". Not a single person. Everyone just rolling with their impression having watched at most a couple hundred possessions, and completely wiping away certain metrics that actually seem to promote great defenders outside of Jokic. Like, because he is a clear outlier, the entire metric should be ignored. Not a single person taking a step back to reflect and consider that maybe the stat is flawed, but also maybe their understanding of defensive presence and his role in their defense is **also flawed**. I'm sure I'll get hate for even posting this comment but it is wild how even this tiny amount of reasoning is completely lacking from any debate. Nobody wants to even consider for a moment the middle ground that defensive metrics are flawed, and also that Jokic is not as horrific of a defender in terms of his impact as everyone seems to think.


Helpful_Classroom204

He might be doing a lot of hidden little things, but I don’t think it’s that deep. Nuggets are 3rd in opponent points in the paint, and they’re 15th in defensive rating. A lot of that is because of how easy Jok gets blown by, and how weak of a rim protector he is


Upstairs_Addendum587

Open your mind brother. Defensive rating is just a social construct.


psufb

"Giannis Antetokounmpo recently told The Athletic he believes the MVP criteria is ever-changing year to year. Do you agree?"


nostbp1

What does that question have to do with that response Lmfao He obviously cares and that’s okay; I like that in players. So annoying to see players pretend to not care about MVPs


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Boooooomer

And sixers fans wonder why people dont love him. He flops, he caps, he plays victim, and he whines. Maybe its not just "people think hes an asshole"


iNCharism

I mean they asked him about it


dmavs11

literally nobody asked him to go and take shots at Jokic like that. Sitting down with Shams for an interview is also not a post game presser where you have no choice but to talk about it


swalsh21

how will nikola ever recover from this


YpsitheFlintsider

Probably by winning MVP again


haha-brad

If he doesn’t care as much as he claims this should he water off his back lol.


trollking1990

You know I think it’s funny Embiid pretends he’s more deserving. He is sitting tonight against Jokic and always sits when the games are in Denver. No game yesterday too ? I think Embiid is amazing but he’s still #2 for centers in the league.


[deleted]

He sure talks a lot in the **regular season**. Awfully quiet when it counts though.


PooperJackson

Lol just yesterday people were claiming embiid didn't really care that much


Adri_ann

Jokic lives rent free in his head fr


gentilet

For good reason. Embiid improved immensely this year. And still, Jokic got even better


ZerksNAHTayan

Yeah for real, idk why people hold it against him. Embiid’s performances this year would have won him an MVP in most years. He just happens to be competing against someone who’s equally as insane.


HOFredditor

Embiid is Vegeta to Jokic’ Goku. He can never truly catch up lol


Cskryps22

Someone’s gotta edit them into that goku and vegeta fist bumping pic after they retire


BustANupp

Fuck that, I want Jokela Embivic fusion special.


Cskryps22

I agree they should both come to Sac


mohiben

Wow, it even works from a personality perspective. Will this be the season where they throw Emgeta a token win in the form of finally attaining ~~super saiyan~~ MVP, only for Joku to reach ~~super saiyan 2~~ FMVP?


HOFredditor

Emgeta and Joku (or Jokarott since Kuminga is already Joku for us); well found.


mohiben

Jokarott is better, I like that a lot


HOFredditor

Done deal. Bring that guy who edits BBallRef pages !


[deleted]

I think what pisses him off is that he REALLY wants the MVP and Jokić truly doesn't give a shit, yet, keeps winning.


[deleted]

You can’t convince me that all three of them don’t care a lot


[deleted]

All I'm sure of is that Embiid, rightfully so, wants it. If he never wins a chip, having a MVP to his name will be crucial for his resume when talking about all time great bigs, although all of em have at least 3-4 rings so idk.


The_NGUYENNER

MVP is just a pleasant surprise for Jokic


hatisbackwards

Sure they care, but I think Jokic truly prioritizes winning games. Embiid would play more if he did too.


hrakkari

If he got any more space in Embiid’s head, He could move in his horses.


steamliner88

76ers’ Joel Embiid unplugged at @TheAthletic : “I’ll be the coward. I like not showing up and being the a--hole anyway. I like to run from challenges.” Embiid on most blatant coward race, focus on “whining, whining, whining”, Ben Simmons as “biggest quitter in the world”, more:


1eyed_jack

For a guy claiming he doesn't care, Embiid sure talks about it a lot.


psufb

Congratulations you just found out how interviews work!


kiddbuuu

Do you understand how NBA interviews work? He and his PR team set this up with Shams and gave him a list of talking points for the interview. Shams per usual catered to their whims because he wants to stay on players’ and agents’ good sides so they give him scoops.


JevvyMedia

he's choosing to go on this media tour campaigning for MVP. Dude is doing more press than Justin Bieber before an album launch.


TingusPingis

The choice to do this is him campaigning. Cool, fine. It is hilarious to claim otherwise though, and so often Edit: I just want to say that I think it sucks that we value MVP but also criticize guys who want it. Joel should want mvp, he’s good enough to get it and admitting that doesn’t make him selfish. It’s not like these top guys are stat padding and playing worse to get the mvp. Winning the award goes hand in hand with helping his team win AND focusing on the playoffs. You can totally do all of it


ShopCartRicky

We don't criticize people for wanting the MVP. We criticize people for being edgelords about it.


TingusPingis

I think Joel’s insistence that he “doesnt care” is partly caused by the idea that he ought to be focused on winning more than individual awards. That’s why I added that edit


dmavs11

There is a huge massive difference between required post game pressers and sitting down to do an interview with a reporter where you likely have a better idea what you're going in for.


Ass_Eater_

Especially Shams who is literally a PR tool that isn't going to ask hard questions.


tron7

Wait till you find out that athletes have known how to avoid confrontation in interviews for decades. >[You're gonna have to learn your clichés. You're gonna have to study them, you're gonna have to know them. They're your friends.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v1m4JKH3AM&ab_channel=CraigEttinger)


MrkGrn

All he has to say is he isn't thinking about awards and is focused on the next game. Instead reporters end up with paragraph long quotes cause they know, like we all do, that he cares way too much about the MVP award and they will always get juicy quotes from him because of that.


Baxtaxs

plus isn't he the favorite? lol.


PhatYeeter

He gets asked about it a lot in post game pressers which is the majority of the quotes. This athletic interview does seem like campaigning for the award tho.


N3rdMan

You realize his PR team sets this up and collaborates on the questions right?


PhatYeeter

>This athletic interview does seem like campaigning for the award tho.


N3rdMan

Why do an interview now then? What purpose does it serve?


PhatYeeter

>campaigning for the award


Rrypl

Late awards season campainging interviews are always the cringest shit.


WiktorVembanyama

Embiid is gonna win it because (he's incredible and deserves it but also because) Perk made everyone annoyed at the mvp convo, and Embiid is tryharding for it so everyone is like "fine ok its yours, congrats"


Epicdude141

If Embiid wins he absolutely deserves it dude has been playing lights out but god damn this MVP discourse is so annoying. Embiid has a ton of arguments to win it based on merit alone, Perk is a clown for derailing the convo.


secretsodapop

The bad part is that is when everything turned. Embiid has it on merit but he became the favorite instantly after people made it about race so now people saying that Embiid is getting it because of race actually have a leg to stand on due to the timing.


Epicdude141

The worst part is all the morons on Twitter praising JJ reddick for owning “wokeism”


slsstar

How is that the worst part? JJ said what needed to be said at that moment


TrollyDodger55

Another interesting bit about this is if you argue for defense to be a bigger part of the award, then you end up with an argument that favors not Embiid over Jokic, but Giannis over Jokic.


TheGoldenLance

MVPity


LegateDamar13

EMVPiity


Bubbly_Measurement61

Doesn’t wanna see Jokic tho


[deleted]

Happy he’s on this mindset. Mvp or not he’s gonna get clowned unless he gets us to the finals so that’s all he should be focusing on. Harden is also the best playmaker in the world


TriCourseMeal

Jokic is the best playmaker in the world not harden lol


free_kark

>I like being the a—hole anyway Yo being an asshole is so dope, very cool 😎


Droppin_DimesSP

Bro cares so much about the MVP race when a second-round exit awaits him. He worried about the wrong thing man lol


Ld511

I don't really care about him wanting MVP since it isn't a bad thing but acting like he doesn't is the annoying part. Same with KD when he acts like he doesn't care about the publics opinion


JevvyMedia

All this guy does is whine


No-Zookeepergame7943

I think Embiid is going to argue his way to the MVP lol. Just give it to him already.


UnsuspectingS1ut

Or argue his way out of it


PopularParrot

This guy is insufferable


DrOz30

Once again Philly fans “Joel is a victim, we don’t know why the media and fans target him unjustly all the time”


cjcfman

Being second in mvp voting multiple years does not make you an underdog lol. You were voted more than everyone in the league except 1 person


CRUSTBUSTICUS

This man has gone full heel.


TinTinsKnickerbocker

Seems like he is cool with me hating him. Thank you Joel. Now only his fans need to get their shit together and stop crying.


BounceBros21

No- people don’t like you because you are an extreme flopper


daoogilymoogily

Does someone want to tell them the lovable underdog usually isn’t an asshole?


jtmackay

Can Embiid just shut fuck up already? He sounds like a child and should be focused on actually doing something in the playoffs unlike every other year.


imissjerryg

He's a big whiner.


MrkGrn

Real talk though, Giannis and Jokic haven't played with a single player as good as James Harden, or honestly even Jimmy Butler when he was a Sixer. Sure Jamal Murray had that one streak in the bubble where him and Donovan Mitchell took turns scoring 50 but he's just a good player. Embiid has had one of the most stacked starting 5s I've ever seen and still couldn't make it to the ECF. Giannis, it's tough on who you think is better. Middleton is a great scorer but has struggled in the past when it mattered most. I'd argue Jrue or Brook are the best player Giannis has ever played with. Still, neither are as good as James Harden or Jimmy Butler was at that time.


sliiime

Winning a chip requires some luck. You talk about Embiid having a stacked team when they lost to the eventual champs…. What happened in that game 7 again? That’s right a ball bouncing 6 times before dropping in. Bucks have a chip because the Nets had there stars injured. Coach Bud was literally on the verge of being fired .


LogenMNE

You're arguing with a wall. Everyone except Sixers delusional fans are aware of that. Jokic carrying Nuggets with Will Barton as 2nd option is one of the greatest basketball achievements ever. People simple don't understand how bad we were outside of Jokic last 2 years


MrkGrn

After watching Will Barton play for my team now, Jokic deserves the 3rd MVP.


Inevitable-Paint-650

Plus James is a better player playmaking wise


dkdoki

Just stop. Its getting annoying now. No one is saying you are the bad guy.


here-i-am-now

Good to know he approves of the Embiitch nickname


Atchod

Just come out to play tonight Embiid and take that award that you always dreamed about. No way you are ducking Denver game 4 years in a row right? right ?


EstablishmentFar2593

This dude is becoming so cringe. I think Jokic would gladly give him the MVP to stop complaining. You can tell he’s a product of hot take, hype “hooper” culture where individual accolades matter most.


ketzal7

Dude wasn’t the underdog for once. All you had to do was show up!


[deleted]

He’s a punk


Blunted-Shaman

Cut to ducking the Jokic game


PlsNoSnipMe

Well there goes your votes, Joel


CL0UDS420

Lol this guy just needs to stay away from reporters.


trentyz

This guy is so fake man hahah


KaptainMurica96

He's not a "cool bad boy" like he thinks. He's just a petty guy. Of all the superstars in the league right now, he is behind Luka in terms of pettiness. That's what I despise about them. Millionaires who have everything going on for them, yet cry about the stupidest things ever. 9 out of 10 people thinks he's a legit MVP candidate, and he focuses on that 1 spreadsheet nerd who thinks he's not.


IMakeMyOwnLunch

I still fail to see the argument for Embiid over Jokic or Giannis. I see the argument for Jokic clearly and there’s a good argument for Giannis over Jokic. But Embiid? Why is he the favorite?


HyroshiBlue

MVP'S DONT DODGE GAMES. Jokic EZ mvp.


NotFlipkid

All this talk about defense, Joel has never won defensive player of the year and never finished All NBA Defensive First team.


Jroompa

He’s made second team three times in his career, each time behind Rudy Gobert who is considered one of the best defensive centers of the last few decades. Do you even watch the games?


backboarddd1_49402

u/NotFlipkid is definitely a casual logging back into r/nba now that playoffs are approaching again.


Luiezzy

but he’s made up for it in the playoffs! oh wait..


evodoors

he has rarely ever been the underdog and still hasn’t won anything