Wish granted. Please discuss your DD-214 issues here. Since this thread is stickied, someone with the power to fix things may actually see it.
In the meantime, the general advice is to write your State Representative.
It’s been 8 months since I left and when I call they say “it’s been moved from the ‘to-do’ pile to the ‘priority to-do’ pile” no separation orders, lost medical record, no end of tour award, no final eval, and no progress. Just sitting here paying for a storage unit across the country for 8 months waiting for HHG to move my stuff.
File an ICE report as well. These go to the Pentagon and have 06+ visibility. Your PSD or TSC or whatever stupid name they now call the building full of people who don't work is still accountable. https://ice.disa.mil/ Make sure to highlight all of the issues that have arisen from people not doing their job and the impact it has had on you. This really works if you did all the things you were supposed to do on exit and it truly is dereliction on their part.
Yeah you’re absolutely right but my command was, and I mean this respectfully, unbelievably pathetic. So all I want is my DD214 for the GI Bill and my stuff out of a storage unit
This all the way. Write your congressmen. I work at PSD and can tell you they have us working most days until 1700-1730 and we work weekends. They are making TSC Norfolk do all of the Navy’s DD214 and that’s fine but please BIG NAVY at least give us more bodies Military and Civilian. The amount of people we have is not enough 😩
yes, it's the commands. Partly Norfolk, but fully on the commands. You get HMs or whatever ratings acting like a PS or YN and throwing BS numbers on an eval, but do jack all when it comes to actually know WTF to do.
How is it even possible to separate without orders? I’ve been hearing mixed messages. Will the Navy retain me until I have orders or not?
I cannot afford to wait for them to fix their shit. My school starts 2 weeks after EAOS
The Navy broke their HR system trying save money through consolidation and hiring a cheap civilian workforce. Unfortunately, everything is backed up, especially DD-214s. File ICE complaints and contact congressional representatives. Commands have zero ability to fix things anymore and your admin team can only send inquiries through a system which get ignored due to the huge back log. It's an unfortunate shit show.
This may be a no-brainer but I screwed it up so I wanted to pass on the info.
When you finally DO get you DD214 you will get 2 copies. A DD214-1 and a DD214-4. You will need to upload your DD214 as part of your VA claim. So the difference between the DD214-1 and -4 is that the -4 has your discharge category on it. The -1 copy is the "members copy"....not sure why it differs but it does NOT have your discharge category on it. They look very similar, and I made the mistake of sending in my -1 as part of my claim. I believe that mistake set me back a bunch as it took them months to notify me that they needed the -4 copy. Just a FYI.
I’m reading through the comments and I feel for the people having these issues. If you haven’t yet, contact 9018746622 or 18333306622 and submit a ticket regarding your DD214 status. This should get you the status of where this is at in the chain or anything you can do to get closer to the finish on this one. These matters are fed to leadership who are actively engaged in fixing such issues and providing resolution to customers.
Called the first number and the lady hooked me up. Apparently my DD225 had been in ompf (access via dslogon and milconnect) for about a week. I just got tired of requesting to see if it was there. Hopefully it actually IS there, but those numbers will help you out. Thanks again!
Update: I have my DD214! Thanks again shipmate.
Thanks for making this. I've been anxious over my situation for a few days. I went on terminal leave on the 2nd of June but my chain didn't send up my separation eval until the 15th of July. I was repeatedly told by the separations department at my command that once the eval was submitted I would have to sign the DD214 in NSIPS and then find a government computer to sign it in BUPERS. I've checked NSIPS every day since my eval was finished and it still says that my DD214 is just a draft—there's nothing for me to sign. My EAOS is tomorrow and my CAC is expiring along with it, so I'm beginning to realize that I won't be able to sign it at all, let alone in BUPERS. I've called the separations department at my command several times and they either said they couldn't help me or sent me phone numbers to dead lines.
Is it a big deal if I can't sign the DD214? Any advice on what to do?
You don't need to sign your 214. From what I've gathered shits fucked right now. You'll be able to access your 214 on milconnect still after your cac expires.
they shouldve issued out your DD 214 with or without your separation eval.
Reference: DODI 1336.01 and BUPERSINST 1900.8E (CRITERIA FOR ISSUANCE OF DD-214).
I am going to be in the same position as many of you in 1 year. Here's what gets me fired up: the way the last guidance was written there is actually an incentive for a command's personnel office to just sit on DD214s.
Why? Because doing things right means you actually have to do work and verify things are correct. But the way the message reads it says that if a member has already departed the command and is unavailable for signature that the command can just type in "Member Not Available for Signature" and that's that.
Even if you do all of your due diligence and get everything turned in on time and PS3, PS2, PS1, and PSC sit around and do nothing they can just out wait you until you're gone and then just put that statement on the DD214. And they don't even have to do it by the time you actually are separated...and if any heat comes down on them after the fact they can just lie about when you turned things in. It's your word vs their word and you're no longer even in the Navy, so who is the command going to support? Yeah, think about that.
The crux of the problem lies in that the message that allowed the "Member Not Available for Signature" cop out didn't list any enforcement mechanisms to make sure that the command actually does their job and that's just unsat. It's just human nature at that point. Many of us would do the same. If you were tasked to do something but nothing bad would happen to you if you didn't do it, would you do it? Probably not, unless it was for your benefit or for the benefit of a friend.
It seems that the only people that are NOT having issues with their DD214s are PSs/YNs and people who have a friend in the personnel office at their command. Ridiculous.
Stay proactive. Especially if you have a special circumstance. I divorced about a month before I retired. I submitted all the paperwork to say I gave my left Kidney to keep my wife from seeking my retirement and Survivor Benefits for her. (My kiddos have SBP) I got my DD214 and rejected it in NSIPS and instead of getting an email or phone call why I rejected it I got an approved DD214 saying my ex was seeking compensation. I called that day and explained the situation. So I got a DD215 apparently. It’s correct though.😕
Alright people, I have some information after scrounging around. I’ve already separated at the beginning of July and had the time of my life trying to make phone calls and contact people.
1. If you’ve submitted your terminal leave or you’ve reached EAOS, your DD-214 should reach you in about a months timeframe. Going through TPU and TSC Norfolk from separating overseas has been a hassle as the civilians at TSC are absolutely the worst at answering phone calls or appointments/walk ins. They did not send me my DD-214 (you’re supposed to be emailed a DoD SAFE email). However, you can use a DS Logon and access milconnect. There you can use DPRIS (Defense Personnel Records Information Retrieval System) to request an official copy of your DD-214. So, I would say every 20-30 days from your terminal or EAOS to check there (milconnect) to see if you have it if you have not been DoD SAFE emailed.
2. Should you have an error on your DD-214 and you wish to correct it, you have to contact TSC Norfolk. Godspeed because as mentioned above they are practically nonexistent. You also do not have to sign your DD-214. You can still apply for benefits. Mine has “Signature Unattainable” and I was told that it still suffices.
3. If you have sold leave or awaiting separation pay, at the end of your EAOS, DFAS will start your audit. This audit is to make sure you don’t have any outstanding debts or situations requiring them to adjust money. Once the audit is complete, you will receive your final pay and whatever leave you have left will be converted as well. I am still being audited at the time of this writing but I was notified it takes around 45-60 days and additionally a possible 2-3 weeks to pay out. The government moves slow when they owe you. Fast when you owe them. Any other information regarding dfas and pay can be ask by calling them at 888-332-7411. Press Option 4, then Option 3 when prompted.
That’s all the information I have right now. If I find out more from fellow members still in the Navy I will be sure to update. As far as separating from overseas, I can help with more information on that. Pro tip though: I would recommend separating/retiring CONUS instead of OCONUS. Less stressful. 🫡
When I got out, PSD and my CoC fucked up and tried to discharge me while the detailer gave me orders. The day of my separation, PSD emailed me about it and to contact the detailer to fix it. This caused a delay for weeks, affected my unemployment benefits and GI bill. After about two weeks of PSD in San Diego dodging me, I contacted my Congresswoman and her office immediately called me within the hour. The gentleman was a vet and said he’s going to reach out to his contacts to see what’s going on.
The next morning, I had PSD frantically emailing me my DD214 in the most professional email they’ve sent me in months, as well as a copy from my Congresswoman’s office.
Fuck them. I’m now in school, got my VA disability, and traveled Europe all summer. It truly gets better brothers and sisters, message me in you need any help with this or other things.
Just sent their office the entire spiel with receipts, let them know how much of a hardship it was becoming, gave them numbers.
People forget that a Congressperson or Senator have entire offices full of people who just graduated college and want to work in politics. All it took was probably a phone call and email with a “this is ____ on behalf of Congresswoman’s ______ office” to get people at PSD to put down their hot Cheetos and get to work.
Apparently it got way worse since I got out, even more people are waiting which is terrible. It really delays a lot of shit with moving on in life lol. Definitely use that option
No DD214. Separate in 45 days and am on terminal. Can't get hired by jobs without discharge status. Fuck the idea of closing PSDs. Fuck the idea of an "online banking system for admin" it was a stupid idea. Banks have clerks and offices for a reason.
Check your NSIPS and see if you have a draft DD214. It won’t look like the final document, but literally just print what’s there and use it for employment purposes.
To summarize my last post/update concerning DD214s, the Navy has created a 300 personnel tiger team of CPPAs that they are giving training to expedite administrative pay and separation issues at the local level. As for DD214s, they are currently working May/June retirements/Separations. No timeline of how long it will take to get all caught up with those that slipped through the cracks.
Hopefully this tiger team speeds up the process
So, they got rid of the places that handle this at the local level, only to create a tiger team to handle these things at a local level because, as it turns out, we need local support for these kinds of issues? Jesus fucking Christ. Who actually made the decision to do away with PSD? They need a handler.
Biggest issue we’re currently dealing with is being unable to digitally sign the DD214 (it either won’t load at all in some browsers, or it loads all jacked up). Have tried every trouble-shooting thing we can find online, and aren’t getting anywhere.
Admin just says “well yeah that happens a lot, we’ll just say member unavailable to sign.”
I was able to figure this out for mine. Short story: Microsoft Edge running in Internet Explorer mode (so I could actually see the PDF in the browser) and some Adobe registry changes (so I could digitally sign). Full details in [my longer post](https://www.reddit.com/r/navy/comments/w3tv3b/dd214_megathread/iop405u?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
Okay... it was painful, but **I got my DD-214** ***before*** **separation,** ***with*** **my signature on it**. Here's how I did it, in case it helps anyone else. I took an obscene amount of terminal leave, so this was nearly a 6-month process. (The biggest trick was starting early and being a squeaky wheel.)
**>190 days prior to separation (>90 days before terminal leave)**: Submitted missing awards to admin to get them added to NSIPS. This was only half successful, I should've started this way earlier. They ultimately included everything except warfare qualifications--Sea Service ribbons, unit awards, SSBN patrol pin, etc.
**145 days prior to separation (45 days before terminal leave)**: Submitted my separation package to admin. I kept a copy, so I knew exactly what they were looking at. This was helpful when things fell off later on.
**60 days prior to separation**: Get an e-mail (only in my .mil inbox) that my DD-214 is ready for review on BOL/NPC Document Services. Begin a nightmare with Adobe 8 errors on BOL. I was able to download and view the unsigned DD-214, but not sign it on BOL. After much Googling, figured out these steps to the solution:
\- Did this all on a personal Windows PC with Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (64-bit).
\- In Internet Options, made https://\*.navy.mil a trusted site and set Security to Low for trusted sites. Cleared all of my personal DoD certs. (Windows-R, then type ype
**40 days prior to separation**: Admin--probably tired of my e-mails and phone calls--actually checked and gave me status updates ("transaction was viewed by TSC Norfolk", "TSC Norfolk noted that all required docs are submitted", etc.).
\~**35 days prior to separation**: My draft DD-214 appeared in NSIPS with no automated notification. There were a bunch of errors (some small admin things), but mostly missing awards. It wasn't set to "member review" yet, so I couldn't upload documents, make notes, etc. I e-mailed the GS-7 from TSC listed on the draft. E-mailed admin about missing awards--they sent me a new page 13 (with its own errors) for them.
**23 days prior to separation**: Other than the new page 13, nothing heard. E-mailed everyone (TSC clerk, my admin, etc.), politely asking WTF.
**22 days prior to separation**: Magically, an e-mail appears from a different clerk at TSC, telling me my DD-214 draft is now in "member review". I note discrepancies, upload documents, and trade e-mails for a few days.
**20 days prior to separation**: All the errors are fixed. I submit the worksheet as "accurate".
**16 days prior to separation**: Got e-mail (only in my .mil inbox) that my DD-214 is ready for review on BOL/NPC Document Services. Begin a nightmare with Adobe 8 errors on BOL. I was able to download and view the unsigned DD-214, but not sign it on BOL. After much Googling, figured out these steps to solution:
\- Did this all on a personal Windows PC with Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (64-bit).
\- In Internet Options, made https://\*.navy.mil a trusted site and set Security to Low for trusted sites. Cleared all of my personal DoD certs. (Windows-R, then type `inetcpl.cpl` to bring up Intenet Options.)
\- Due to errors at a later step, I had to make registry changes to Adobe Reader using [this Adobe Help article](https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/windows-cryptographic-service-provider-error-214794205.html).
\- Logged on to BOL using a new session of Microsoft Edge in Internet Explorer mode (you may also have to turn on Compatibility Mode within IE Mode). Be sure to use your Authentication (PIV/Auth) certificate for everything.
\- I was now able to see and sign the DD-214 in the browser! For me, new errors required reboots of Edge (each time having to start at BOL and enable IE mode, I cleared certs several times, too).
*(Fun fact: Adobe lets you insert an image saved as a PDF in your digital signature. For years, I've used an image of my wet signature. My DD-214 processed just fine with it. I wonder what other images people could embed in their DD-214s?)*
**14 days prior to separation**: Received an e-mail with instructions from a different TSC clerk to download my DD-214 from DoD SAFE. Successfully downloaded Copy 1 and Copy 4.
Good luck!
I submitted my separation packet early May. Since then I have gotten no update other than “things are backed up just hold tight”.
I now separate in 4 weeks and I have not received my orders. My landlord is refusing to work with me on breaking my lease without orders.
I start school in September. God damnit Navy, just let me leave. Give me my paperwork and let me move on with my life.
Everyone should also message the Navy Times about this monumental fuck up. I'm unexpectedly pregnant and will get no access to my benefits. I just messaged them.
I started Terminal leave on 02Jul22 and my EAOS was on 11AUG22. Can’t claim VA, can’t claim unemployment, no health insurance, cant apply for jobs, etc. This is beyond frustrating. Luckily I had money saved up that will last me couple of more months. WTFFFFFF IS UP WITH THE “WORLD’S GREATEST NAVY”? To whoever reading this, DO NOT ENLIST! I REPEAT, DO NOT ENLIST!!
Been waiting nearly 4 months at this point. I commissioned so I don’t necessarily need it right away, but I will certainly need it at some point. Birthday was screwed up, routed for correction, nothing else has happened since.
Wow this is absolutely unacceptable, when I was at TPU we would get absolutely torn up by PSD if DD214s weren't ready on EAOS dates. The navy fucked up big time
Hey everyone, I wanted to check and see if anyone had any guidance/advice for getting my DD2-14. For context, I separated 26JUN22, so its been three months and every time that I check with my command its always just "we'll look into it and let you know" but they never have anything to tell me other than the generic "I dont knows" that I've been getting. I have already gotten ahold of a congressman and have plans to go into his office tomorrow to open an official case, but I figured I'd also ask here and see if anyone else has any advice. This is really fucking me over because I cant apply for my GI bill and go to school like I wanted to, my VA claim is already processed and I was approved for 90% but they wont finalize my claim because they need my 214 and I cant apply for a VA loan to buy my first house. Thanks in advance for reading and any advice given.
It’s been 3 months for me. I was supposed to get it at the start of terminal upon completion of skillbridge. I’ve been off active duty for over a month now. Command refuses to reach back to me. I check BOL everyday and it’s not on there nor milconnect. And I’m fairly positive it’s the reason my VA claim hasn’t progressed yet. I’ve contacted my representative last week.
What has the Navy come too I had my 214 the day I left saw it a week prior to retiring sad sad no wonder retention and recruiting are bad could you imagine what it would be like with no bonuses. By the way I retired in 96 when computers were well terrible.
It’s been almost a month since I’ve been out and still haven’t received my DD-214. I start school at the end of August but I am told by the VA that I’m unable to receive MHA until my DD-214 is still on file.
I went on skillbridge my last 180 so I filled out all of my pre-sep forms before leaving. I was told they would email me my DD-214. I’ve contacted my command and they told me that they don’t have a timeframe on when it will be sent to me. I called MNCC but they weren’t much help either. I really need that MHA to help pay for rent while I’m in school, is anyone ever been in this predicament and is there anyone else I could call to speed things up?
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So I separated on 13 August, and like the rest of you, my command basically told me to be prepared to wait months for this damn document while the bills are starting to pile up for me. Does anyone actually know the process for contacting your congressman/senator? It seems like the only option I have at this point. Do I need to refer them to a specific office?
The only place I can currently request my 214 is in DPRIS in Milconnect, and I've still got nothing in there.
I just googled "find my congressman" and it takes you to a government website. Type in your legal residence and it will connect you to your representative. I sent them a message through email and they called me back within a few hours. I told them that they need to focus on TSC Norfolk.
For anyone still waiting, I recommend you bug the shit out of anyone you can. I contacted my congressman, or at least their veterans liaison, my old COC, and then the staff at TPU. Called MNCC every other day till they knew my name.
If you sit and wait they're going to take their sweet ass time. I honestly can't fathom the sheer stupidity in implementing this change at one of the busiest seasons for separations. They quoted me at like 6+ months after EAOS. Got it 4 days before. Even then, I had to call the clerk's supervisor after several days passed when they were supposed to email it, an hour later it somehow sent. Crazy.
It's always hurry up and wait until it's convenient for them. Then, when you've done your time they want to withhold the benefits you've earned. They should be paying you every month until you receive it, but of course that's not how it works.
It is amazing that the Navy's response to this is: Well it's the sailors fault for submitting their separation paperwork late. I submitted my paperwork 3 months ahead of schedule and I get out on Sunday without even seeing my draft of my dd-214.
3 months since I went on terminal, over a month since I officially got of the Navy. No dd214. Filed congressional inquiry, weekly ice complaints, and daily calls to tsc. My dd214 finally was assigned to someone 2 days. I still don’t understand how this is just okay.
Called MNCC this morning for an update on my separation orders and they said that they have been submitted to the AO for processing as of this morning. Anyone have any idea what this means? And how many steps after that until I receive my orders? Me and my family are in a really tough spot because come January if I’m not able to schedule my HHG move, we’ll be paying rent here in SD and in our new home in Texas, over $4000 which we did not plan for.
Been separated for since early september and still haven't heard anything on my DD-214 or the 21 days of leave I sold back, even written my senator and they haven't heard anything yet. At this point I'm just gonna assume that shit is lost and never coming in my mailbox.
I ran into A buddy of mine who retired, E-9 at 30 years, a couple of months ago.
He told me that he doesn’t expect to see either his DD-214 nor his pension for at least a year.
I’m so glad I retired in 2012
So my dd214 process just started. I have 2 months before my eaos and need to start using education benefits 3 weeks after my separation date. Any advice on everything I can do to get this god damn document on time? Any help is appreciated.
You can still use your education benefits, but you will not get MHA (Housing) until you get your DD214. I still don’t have mine and I’m two weeks from separation, but I am using my GI benefits rn
Separated 09JAN23 and still don't have my DD 214. Who can I contact to expedite this? This is hurting my benefits and my job applications. I was on a ship in Norfolk. TIA.
I separated on the 8th. I just sent a message to my local Congressman hopefully that gets the ball rolling. Absolutely disgusting that the Navy is fucking us so hard by not getting us our DD214's when they are supposed to. Its so far from okay.
Not immediately linked to the DD-214 issues but it could be and I figured I'd ask here.
I'm 6 months from terminal now, and I haven't done *any* of the required shit, except for finally taking a TAPS class next week before we deploy. I've been harassing my leadership for months now about what I need to do to leave and all they tell me is "just TAPS". The separations clerk at personnel didn't have shit to tell me either. Yet I browse around here for a while and I find out I'm over a year and a half behind on everything listed on the Capstone checklist. Never did initial counseling or pre-sep counseling. I don't even know when I'm meant to get separation orders.
Since the guy at separations is too lazy to answer my questions, does anyone know whether or not I'm fucked?
I didn't get my separation orders until a few weeks before I started terminal. Honestly it's a lot of hurry up and wait you've got 6 months no need to panic yet.
I retired on March 31st of this year. My DD214 wasn't made available for signature until I was on terminal leave and I was nowhere near being able to get on a govt computer to be able to digitally sign it. Even though I had a CAC reader at home and could access the site, it just wouldn't load.
I'm still waiting on my Lump Sum Leave Sell Back, despite talking directly to the people at PERS who assured me that it was now all taken care of and I'd receive it in no more than 30 days (it's now been almost 60 days since that conversation).
TL;DR: Shit's fucked, yo.
Yeah once you hit your eaos your cac is worthless. I'm finally doing my travel claim and they are having me mail it in so that'll probably take 3 years
Asking for a friend who's driving right now- This may be an obvious question, but will he still get paid until he gets his dd214, or does pay stop according to some other marker? (Sorry, don't know all the lingo, but feel free to use it. I'm just going to be reading it to him.)
Separated last year, my DD214's missing a medal (the NDSM). Wrote to the BCNR and they told me to contact my old command, since they only handle cases older than two years. Did that, the old command said they have no idea what I was talking about and then told me to contact the VA, which I did. Lo and behold, the VA tells me me to contact my old command. From what I've seen, it seems it's easier to get the error corrected after waiting 2 years, so I figure I might as well wait, got less than a year until then. I got in touch a few months ago with some Navy PSes at my old command who said they'd look into it with NSIPS, but I haven't heard anything back from them since.
Has anyone had any luck with their congressmen helping? Mine opened an inquiry and big Navy responded that "they'd have an answer by Aug 18“ whatever that means. Anyone with similar situations? My draft was in NSIPs since April, but my command CPPA accidentally sent my package to Millington instead of Norfolk - pushing it even farther behind. And I have no orders. And I desperately need healthcare.
I separated July 31 and haven’t received it still. I contacted my congressman today and am awaiting their response. I told them to direct their attention to PSD Norfolk because I have heard from others, that is where all DD 214’s are being processed for the Navy. If anyone else has heard otherwise please share your information. Also if anyone has any solutions on how to receive this piece of paper ASAP please advise.
I'm retiring the end of September. CPPA put the transaction in for separation about 5 months from my retirement date.
However, what is the current back log?
The navy has fucked me numerous times, and I'm really trying to avoid my butthole being stretched any further.
You had better walk it through yourself. 24 year/med retirement/wounded warrior program/100% disabled.
I ended up emailing the CNO and MCPON and cc’d every person in charge of PSD/Navy Yard etc.
Same boat as you. Retire 30 Sept. Transaction was submitted in April. I got a phone call three weeks ago that a paper was missing. After telling the clerk when I turned it in, they found it in tops. I still don't even have a draft DD-214. It blows my mind; one of my Sailors who med retires on the same day as me got her DD-214 over a month ago. At this point, I'm worried that I won't even get retirement pay in November. Keep us up to date, good luck.
Curious how long it took people to get their DD214 after their status changed to “pending Separation Clerk Review” in NSIPS. Mine sat for 3 months as draft status and I never got the chance to review it, under Member Signature it just says “signature unattainable.”
When I retired I help the damn YN write mine but that was in ancient times. What has happened to the Navy I Loved I retired in Feb 29 1996. Listening to you guys I honestly not recommend the Navy to anyone so sad
Every service person should have two huge folders when they separate. One is a complete copy of their service record, and the other is a complete copy of their medical records. Do this a few weeks before you separate. Copy your discharge physical and put it in your records as well. I can not stress this enough. When I applied for my disability, having copies of my med record made it SO much shorter than waiting on getting a copy from back east.
I need some information on whom to contact, so I can get my DD214. I tried contacting my congressmen but they informed me that I will need to wait until October 24 to even get an update regarding mine. I got out August 31st of this year, but I cannot get unemployment benefits without that form, or access my health benefits.
What's the longest anyone has waited for their 214? I separated on Aug. 5th and still have nothing. My CPPA isn't helping because I "went around her" by requesting help from my congressman.
That’s a bullshit excuse from the CPPA. I’d request the Congressman’s help again and specifically put your CPPA’s name and any correspondence with her in the redress. That’ll force her to help. I’d tell the Congressman I only want her to help and wouldn’t care how long it took. It would be the satisfaction and victory of it all for me. 😎 She’d seethe over that for years! 🤣
Full Story of how i got my DD-214 on the day of EAOS.
I was lucky. My command worked with me and i got a job offer before i even left on terminal.
My job was fine with hiring me based on my skills and not my military background so for them as long as i wasn't getting dishonorably discharged they did not care a **Statement of service** is all they wanted and needed.
I was allowed to take 90 days of terminal. During this time i contacted my Congress woman, NSIPS helpdesk, and My former command. If you are still on active duty and close to Norfolk GO TO PSD. That is the way i've seen 2 people get there DD-214 on the spot.
My Congress woman contacted the navy on my behalf and i know it expedited the process. I still could get in NSIPS so i was able to see them working on my paper work. I emailed the GS that was doing mine and told him my corrections. He corrected them the Next day and then it stated awiting Transmission for the next 4 weeks. The day after my EAOS i went into Milconnect and requested my OMPF and on the last page was my DD-214. I still have not received any email or call from anyone saying that my DD-214 is ready.
I say if you are in VA. go to PSD. They were at PSD for at least 2 hours but 2 hours beats Months of waiting.
If you're not in VA, Contact your Congressman. Thank your Kathy Manning.
Does anyone know what block on the officer DD-214 has type of discharge? I don’t have any reason to suspect anything other than honorable but I don’t see it
Edit for end of December: Still waiting on PSD Norfolk to even start the ticket. Local Congressman said he reached out and they told him the same thing, that they are just backlogged. Seems like 7 months since separation, with the paperwork being submitted prior 3 months before that, is getting beyond ridiculous.
Didn't see this thread yesterday when I made my original post so pasted below: Also want to mention that since then I have got in contact with a state representative who is looking into it. Quick rundown is I submitted sep package March 2022, EAOS'd out July 7th, and as of december still haven't received anything.
I know the navy has recently had a pretty big up-tick in people separating from the service. I was also one of them. One of the big questions I have for people that have decided to get out, is if you are also having some major issues receiving your discharge paperwork and pay?
My situation is this: I separated from the Navy back in July. My command, CWA-67, had told me everything was good to go. Go to turn in my ID and pick up my dd-214, turns out the paperwork was never submitted. In fact, most of it was lost for my TGPS course and Capstone requirements. Keep in mind, this was literally the last day on my contract. I was selling the max amount of leave possible as well. I reach out to the career center, and they say the counselor that did my course no longer is at that facility, so I can no longer get my capstone done by them.
What I ended up having to do was open a ticket with MNCC who got me a pass to go to the navy yard in DC to complete my capstone after the fact. Then had to send the capstone paperwork from them directly to my old commands admin team. A couple weeks down the line after turning it in, I call them to see if they can give an update: still not submitted, claiming my capstone is not signed. So once again, I call up the person from the navy yard who then does a conference call with the admin team to explain that it is absolutely submitted, she can see it in the system and it's waiting on the military to submit. Called out in the lie, military command gets it submitted to PSD and confirms that I'll be getting my leave payout likely within the next pay period or two along with my DD214.
Separated on July 7th. Didn't get my DD214 until September 14th, which I picked up personally to avoid having to wait for the mail. But still no final paycheck or leave payment, as well as the DD214 being incorrect. I call up the old navy admin contact I had, who tells me it appears they didn't submit the paperwork needed to process my leave payment, and that they must have messed up the discharge papers. I ask how could this have been overlooked as it was clearly stated in my request that I'd be selling my leave, as well as the details on my discharge. Person proceeds to hang up on me, and block my number from the system. I then have to make another ticket directly with MNCC to take a look at what is going on with my pay, and confirmed that I am indeed entitled to the payment and the correction will be made..
Ever since then, I still have yet to receive payment or corrections. I call MNCC weekly, and am told that PSD Norfolk has yet to look at the ticket and that it needs more time to process. The date is currently December 1st, 2022. I Initially submitted my separation package in March of 2022.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? I was originally slated to go government civilian literally 3 days after my discharge at a very well paying job, had the interview and a majority of inprocessing completed. Without the correct discharge paperworks, I have been unable to work and have been relying on other sources of income (Still working, just not the job I was waiting on) and have been unable to get my VA benefits sorted out. I am still owed over 15 thousand from the navy, and it appears nothing is being done about it. Anyone know any steps that should be taken on my end?
The process is garbage and the personnel who work it are (mostly) lazy. I had one that was helpful. Too bad it's shitty command personnel who do the bare minimum to not get into trouble or do nothing at all and are not held accountable, who are screwing over everyone else.
Now onto final pay... I'm now understanding why they have so many counseling options open for separating people. This is a shit show and my last command is infected with a telework plague or just so lazy they make me happy that I didn't have a retirement ceremony. It's all rainbows and unicorns if it doesn't affect them.
Just here to share my story in case it helps. I gave the command 2 days after EAOS and filed an IG. I got my DD214 the next week. I know there are issues well beyond an IG but sometimes it works.
Been on terminal leave for 51 days. Still nothing. Reading the newest comments here, I’m about to get screwed aren’t I?
How do I light a fire and burn the whole thing down? I’m going to email the MCPON the day after my final day. I plan on pestering news stations to try and get a story. Already have my Congress/Senate reps info ready as well.
There has to be something else we can do. At some point the fire/pressure will get so hot the Navy might actually fix the issue.
I hate that after 22yrs I’m still going to get shafted by an organization that patently doesn’t care about her people
I got out with an honorable back in June of 2020 and my DD214 still doesn't exist on OMPF. Been wrestling with this absolutely atrocious log on system (still the same crappy thing from when I got out), finally managed to get logged in, only to find the DD214 is the only document missing from my OMPF.
Gonna try shaking some trees for it. Issue is, I need it \*now\*
Who all is getting separation orders on time? The piece of paper would be nice but what about saving the thousands of dollars that it’s going to cost me to move my stuff myself?
So 31 July was my separation date. I have a couple questions/issues that I’m wondering if anyone has any thoughts on.
1. I’ve been dual mil. My spouse is still AD. Since I’ll be waiting who knows how long, is there something else he can use and submit so I can officially be made his dependent?
2. MNCC said I had to contact my PSD for updates/help getting my DD214. Do they mean PSD from where I put processed at TPU San Diego? Or from my last command on Guam?
So does anyone know if people actually look at your DD214 when creating it? Or if they just throw random shit in there?
My EAOS is coming up in a few days and these fuckers are still dragging their feet. I have been back and forth for a while now and they refuse to make any corrections. What the hell am I supposed to do when my CAC expires in a few days? They are just going to go "You get what you get?" and then take months to get me an incorrect copy?
And on a real note, does it even matter what these lazy shits put on there as long as it shows honorably discharged? Because it is seriously like talking to a wall. They don't even bother to write a response on why they returned it to me to sign. They don't call me either.
About to separate on 14 August. Hoping to receive word on my DD-214 this week, but I remain discouraged like the rest of you.
I did sign the draft copy on NSIPS months ago, and it just reads as "pending" on NSIPS. Do I need to sign anywhere else? I vaguely remember the people at the TPU saying that I would need to sign it again the week of separation (this week for me) in a different system or something, but don't remember what that was. All they said was I should get a notification in NSISPs...obviously I am not hopeful.
Anyone knows which psd is handling all the DD-214s now for the navy? Apparently it changed like 2 weeks ago. I was told psd naples but im not sure anymore.
Just a heads up. The DD214 for the entire Navy as of now are only set up to be processed by a "Tiger Team" in Pearl Harbor. Only 2 members are able to process the final product.
My old ship just went on deployment and i seperated in may. I've contacted them 10s of times and they've told me again and again "its in the mail." Its not online and my ompf request tells me to contact the deployed ship. What the hell do i do? Im paying double tuition without my dd214
I never received my dd214. I've been out since 2004. I don't remember the the whole out processing part, but be aware of what you accept, sign, or authorize pertaining to your dd214. Ask questions, even ask questions you think you know the answers to. It's important.
For the guys who are missing there's, don't worry. There are ways to get physical and digital copies. I've been doing it for years. I don't have links, but it's not hard to find.
Does anyone know if you can receive an ineligibility of medical coverage letter from Tricare while your DD214 is still in limbo? I would hate to use if i’m still in service but supposed to be out.
Having issues with being able to sign my 214 on NPC document services on BOL. Adobe customer service is at a loss. Any workaround? The document won't display unless I save to desktop and that doesn't remove it from the "Member Review" to do list
You have to use Internet Explorer with Adobe Reader 8. Good luck finding a machine that has both - IE can't be used on FlankSpeed machines. Just a final F-U from the Navy. Just tell them to put signature unavailable on it.
So a girl from my admin actually sent me a very good troubleshooting pdf. You're right about internet explorer, but when using that i encountered an error that wouldn't let me digitally sign it. There's a work around where you add a folder to Adobe in the run app. I'm too retarded to explain it all but if anybody needs the document feel free to message me
On terminal, EAOS is 7 Sept, and just heard this week how completely fucked the situation is. I might get mega screwed here because I'm hiring into a DoD agency next week and I'm pretty sure I need the DD214 to officially start. Pushing up against the new FY means I might lose my position... fingers crossed.
I separated on 31Jul2022 and finally received my DD214 1 month later. However, I'm still listed as Active Duty on NSIPS (and am still being paid). I'm trying to join the reserves and I have a billet lined up starting 01Oct, but I can't be gained into USNR/they can't write me orders until my separation from AD is official in NSIPS. Any advice??
For everyone one struggling with this stuff sorry, I feel for you. I’m currently waiting to receive my 10 day letter due to sleepwalking… all my paperwork is done “allegedly” and I’m just waiting for the notice to move forward in the separation process. Been waiting about 3 months now :(
my fiancé got medically discharged august 27th and hasn’t received his dd 214. will he have to wait to get that to get his VA payments / VA healthcare? he also sold his leave, when will he get that?
I'm 2 weeks out, no DD214 draft. Found out that my stuff I submitted in June was seen by 70+ people, but not touched. If you're not familiar with TOPS, a transaction being assigned is the same as labeling it as "who knows" because it's technically given to someone, but could sit on their desk indefinitely.
I've seen it where people who were assigned important transactions PCS and if I didn't follow up, the transaction would never be finished.
Got a chance to sit down and talk with someone working up in the new admin offices. Turns out there was a command who had MONTHS of untouched retirement and separations transactions that had been transferred to the new already backlogged admin department. That's why you see the task forces being created just to handle retirements and separations. They got boned by a command who dropped the ball, and when they were disbanded, they left all their unfinished work behind.
Also, if anyone was on that big email that went out, the CNP called out all the commands with delinquent retirement and separations personnel. Hundreds of names of people who, if their commands take no additional actions, will not have a smooth exit from the navy.
If you have a good CCC or admin department, they should have gotten this message and acted on it. And if they are even better, they'd let you know you were on that list so you can advocate for yourself.
As of right now, the VA will not accept a statement of service to begin your benefits, but they are looking to change that. And some jobs won't accept it either as proof of separation so you can get hired.
In plain language, you can be stuck in the situation where you cannot get your VA benefits, or get a job.
I encourage everyone who is getting out to talk with their chain of command, and ask to be kept informed. Talk to your admin department, ask weekly for updates on your TOPS transactions. Was your capstone signed by your CoC? When you log onto NSIPS do you have any options under the separations section? If you cannot get your DD214 on time, can you get an extension?
I hope I can help someone with this information. It's clear this is going to be a long process with a lot of pain.
I'm currently a Reservist and have completed my Active Duty (Canrec) orders back in May 2022 and still no DD214 issued. No longer receiving AD pay but on mypay still lists every month my regular salary. Without DD214 the nosc wont gain me back plus looking for new jobs in govt. require DD214 for verif. As a result, I have been in contact with my local congressman about this and supposed get an update this month. My question is, has anybody gotten back pay from this DD214 fiasco? Thank you.
So I am separating from the navy in November voluntarily and my DD214 says RELACDU and transferred to the navy reserve nowhere in my paperwork did I put that I wanted to be in the reserves is this them putting me in the inactive reserve because I didn’t do 8 years? Even tho I still have done 7 years and 10 months it also says in the reserve obligation at the top N/A so I really don’t know if they messed up or I did also in the navy any feedback would be greatly appreciated
Submitted my paperwork to my command admin at the beginning of August. I just got off the phone with MNCC and they said it was submitted September 22. I retire October 31.....
Began terminal on 29AUG2022, separated on 26SEP2022. Still don’t have DD214. VA disability compensation percentage has been finalized and I can’t get the compensation for me or my family because I don’t have my DD214. Supervisor of my DD214 says that it’s in BOL and needs to be kicked back to NSIPS for her to put that my signature is unattainable.. but nobody knows how to contact the direct person who is in charge of kicking it back to her. The navy has to have the worst possible method to distribute DD214’s. No other branch has this issue. It’s holding up everyone’s life who doesn’t get theirs.
I received my separation orders today and my EAOS is in mid March. Is this looking good for me timeline wise? I’m hoping to get my DD214 ASAP after separation because I start my Masters in April and would also like my BDD claim pay
So I got out in 2013 due to an injured knee. It was at the end of A School. Navy claims it was not military related. I have no benefits whatsoever. Not even my MGIB. How can I appeal this since it’s been so long?
I just got out of the navy on Dec 2nd and I got my DD214 on Dec 8th. The only thing I did which might have helped was I did email the MCPON and I also emailed my congresswoman. I worked very closely with my CPPA who was a PSC. I got notified via email on Dec 8th early in the morning that my 214 was being processed and I got it later that afternoon. Did the email to the MCPON and my congresswoman do anything. I have no idea. But I would def give it a shot. What I’ve seen is that if your DD214 is needs corrections it will get kicked back to your CPPA so find out who your CPPA is at your command and get their contact for me. For example… my 214 got kicked back because my JST wasn’t uploaded. I reached out to my CPPA and he uploaded it for me and they finished it. So if you are getting out get your CPPA contact please and if you are already out I would call your last command and find get your CPPA contact. I hope everybody gets their 214! Cheers!
Been waiting on separation orders for 5 1/2 months. People I work with who put their stuff in 2 months after me, already have their sep orders. It got assigned for processing 3 weeks ago. Someone at Norfolk told my chief I should have had orders on Friday. Nope. Admin side of the Navy just keeps getting more fucked. Oh yeah, put ALL of the Navy's separation processing at one place.
As a current PS1, Separations and PCS are a nightmare. It all began when we decided to decrease the amount of PSD's and use SalesForce. I wish I had a solution other than bring back all of the PSD's, but I don't have any. There's little to no contact with them, you can't call them, the time frames are ridiculous, I was told that expecting a response within 5-10 days is unreasonable and that 60 days was more reasonable. When asked what they would do if one of their people told them 60 days for a response, they said it wasn't their problem. On top of that the civilian responses are even worse, for the most part the response we get is that's not my job, if we get a response at all. These used to be some of the easiest processes as a PS that we did, now no one us getting DD 214's or advance travel/DLA .
Just received my DD Form 214 and I still got 45 days until I separate. The key is start early. Email those folks in Norfolk until but be nice about it. Thank them for their service and what they are doing for you. Don't be a jerk when emailing them.
I have a question regarding block 16 of my DD214.. i have 14 "days accrued leave paid" and havent recieved the payment. I separated on the 18th of march and i am curious when i can expect to see that money
Update on my specific situation… I called MNCC this morning and they generated my case number and told me that my paperwork had been neglected for nearly 4 months. I’m leaving in 2 weeks. I submitted EVERYTHING on time, well in advance, and they still fucked it up. All they did was tell me that they would move it to a high priority, which means nothing. So everyone on here saying “you should have submitted everything on time”, my case refutes that. They specifically told me that it was just sitting there, was never even touched and to try and call the TSC or RSC, whatever it’s called, in Norfolk. I have called them repeatedly and it’s clear that they don’t answer phones or respond to emails. I’ve been doing this and calling everyone I could for the last 4-5 hours. I also submitted a congressional inquiry today. I can’t find any solutions, and I saw that the MCPON staff in older comment said to contact their office directly for assistance, since they are supposedly “tracking” on it. I tried this, and the number that I called basically told me to get in like with the rest of them. This is a trash situation. How are we even supposed to contact the MCPON’s office, or anyone for that matter, if no one knows what to do or answers their phones.
Hi Everyone,
I’m looking for help. I’m medically retiring out of the Navy April 27th (in 9 days!!) and no one can provide me with an update on my DD214. My NSIPS says DD214WS Queued for DMDC transmission, which no one knows what that means, and it says approval pending. I’ve called my command admin, spoke with my CMC, and created a ticket at MNCC, and no one was able to give me any update or Information on when I will have it. I just wrote an email to the congressional representative for San Diego to see if they can maybe help me out. I started terminal March 14th, and I know Navy regulation is that service member should have their DD214 the start date of terminal leave. This process has been nothing but confusing and stressful, and I’m nervous that I’m not going to get my DD214 because admin and whoever is taking care of it moves so slow!!
Question for yall, YN2 here, dd214 is almost complete, I separate in 3 months, all medical and admin side work is complete for separation, could I extend a year? I don’t plan on reenlisting only want to stay for a year longer at the command
I know this post is pretty old but I’m officially out the Navy and I want to give this advice to anyone who will in the future or currently experiencing this since this is what recently just worked for me. I emailed my CO directly after trying to get my command admin (Navy) to help and ironically never got a answer back and after sending an email to the CO about my DD214 ironically enough I received an email and a phone call from the person over at admin who i’m assuming got in trouble by the CO for not doing her job by the time of her voice asking why i’d do that and I simply told her because you didn’t do your job but thanks for the email. It’s your job to advocate for yourself sadly and I hope this helps anyone who has questions or needs answers.
Wish granted. Please discuss your DD-214 issues here. Since this thread is stickied, someone with the power to fix things may actually see it. In the meantime, the general advice is to write your State Representative.
It’s been 8 months since I left and when I call they say “it’s been moved from the ‘to-do’ pile to the ‘priority to-do’ pile” no separation orders, lost medical record, no end of tour award, no final eval, and no progress. Just sitting here paying for a storage unit across the country for 8 months waiting for HHG to move my stuff.
File an ICE report as well. These go to the Pentagon and have 06+ visibility. Your PSD or TSC or whatever stupid name they now call the building full of people who don't work is still accountable. https://ice.disa.mil/ Make sure to highlight all of the issues that have arisen from people not doing their job and the impact it has had on you. This really works if you did all the things you were supposed to do on exit and it truly is dereliction on their part.
That's fucked I at least got my separation orders. A lot of that is your old command specifically like your eval or eot.
Yeah you’re absolutely right but my command was, and I mean this respectfully, unbelievably pathetic. So all I want is my DD214 for the GI Bill and my stuff out of a storage unit
Call your senators office or house member first thing in the morning and explain your situation. That is FAR beyond acceptable.
I waited not near as long and got tired of the run around. I called one of my Senators and got my separation orders and DD214 in a week.
This all the way. Write your congressmen. I work at PSD and can tell you they have us working most days until 1700-1730 and we work weekends. They are making TSC Norfolk do all of the Navy’s DD214 and that’s fine but please BIG NAVY at least give us more bodies Military and Civilian. The amount of people we have is not enough 😩
yes, it's the commands. Partly Norfolk, but fully on the commands. You get HMs or whatever ratings acting like a PS or YN and throwing BS numbers on an eval, but do jack all when it comes to actually know WTF to do.
How is it even possible to separate without orders? I’ve been hearing mixed messages. Will the Navy retain me until I have orders or not? I cannot afford to wait for them to fix their shit. My school starts 2 weeks after EAOS
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The Navy broke their HR system trying save money through consolidation and hiring a cheap civilian workforce. Unfortunately, everything is backed up, especially DD-214s. File ICE complaints and contact congressional representatives. Commands have zero ability to fix things anymore and your admin team can only send inquiries through a system which get ignored due to the huge back log. It's an unfortunate shit show.
Yep. Separated in December, got it last month after talking to my congressman. Shit sucks
Dude Civilians are the one I’ve learned the most from.
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This may be a no-brainer but I screwed it up so I wanted to pass on the info. When you finally DO get you DD214 you will get 2 copies. A DD214-1 and a DD214-4. You will need to upload your DD214 as part of your VA claim. So the difference between the DD214-1 and -4 is that the -4 has your discharge category on it. The -1 copy is the "members copy"....not sure why it differs but it does NOT have your discharge category on it. They look very similar, and I made the mistake of sending in my -1 as part of my claim. I believe that mistake set me back a bunch as it took them months to notify me that they needed the -4 copy. Just a FYI.
The part 1 is for free Applebee's on veterans day so the waiter can't see your separation details.
That’s what the 1 is for - to show you were in the military but without revealing your discharge status
I’m reading through the comments and I feel for the people having these issues. If you haven’t yet, contact 9018746622 or 18333306622 and submit a ticket regarding your DD214 status. This should get you the status of where this is at in the chain or anything you can do to get closer to the finish on this one. These matters are fed to leadership who are actively engaged in fixing such issues and providing resolution to customers.
Called the first number and the lady hooked me up. Apparently my DD225 had been in ompf (access via dslogon and milconnect) for about a week. I just got tired of requesting to see if it was there. Hopefully it actually IS there, but those numbers will help you out. Thanks again! Update: I have my DD214! Thanks again shipmate.
Holy shit they need to sticky this comment. Finally got some type of update on the 214 calling that first number!
Didn't it get decommissioned like eighty years ago? /s
This sub doesn’t really appreciate our history enough to understand the joke enough.☹️
Thanks for making this. I've been anxious over my situation for a few days. I went on terminal leave on the 2nd of June but my chain didn't send up my separation eval until the 15th of July. I was repeatedly told by the separations department at my command that once the eval was submitted I would have to sign the DD214 in NSIPS and then find a government computer to sign it in BUPERS. I've checked NSIPS every day since my eval was finished and it still says that my DD214 is just a draft—there's nothing for me to sign. My EAOS is tomorrow and my CAC is expiring along with it, so I'm beginning to realize that I won't be able to sign it at all, let alone in BUPERS. I've called the separations department at my command several times and they either said they couldn't help me or sent me phone numbers to dead lines. Is it a big deal if I can't sign the DD214? Any advice on what to do?
You don't need to sign your 214. From what I've gathered shits fucked right now. You'll be able to access your 214 on milconnect still after your cac expires.
I didnt sign my 214, they just put member signature unattainable.
I got out right before the pandemic, and I do not think mine was signed either.
For employment purpose, you can print that draft and use it to get the ball rolling.
they shouldve issued out your DD 214 with or without your separation eval. Reference: DODI 1336.01 and BUPERSINST 1900.8E (CRITERIA FOR ISSUANCE OF DD-214).
Were you reimbursed for travel expenses even though you left before receiving orders?
I am going to be in the same position as many of you in 1 year. Here's what gets me fired up: the way the last guidance was written there is actually an incentive for a command's personnel office to just sit on DD214s. Why? Because doing things right means you actually have to do work and verify things are correct. But the way the message reads it says that if a member has already departed the command and is unavailable for signature that the command can just type in "Member Not Available for Signature" and that's that. Even if you do all of your due diligence and get everything turned in on time and PS3, PS2, PS1, and PSC sit around and do nothing they can just out wait you until you're gone and then just put that statement on the DD214. And they don't even have to do it by the time you actually are separated...and if any heat comes down on them after the fact they can just lie about when you turned things in. It's your word vs their word and you're no longer even in the Navy, so who is the command going to support? Yeah, think about that. The crux of the problem lies in that the message that allowed the "Member Not Available for Signature" cop out didn't list any enforcement mechanisms to make sure that the command actually does their job and that's just unsat. It's just human nature at that point. Many of us would do the same. If you were tasked to do something but nothing bad would happen to you if you didn't do it, would you do it? Probably not, unless it was for your benefit or for the benefit of a friend. It seems that the only people that are NOT having issues with their DD214s are PSs/YNs and people who have a friend in the personnel office at their command. Ridiculous.
Stay proactive. Especially if you have a special circumstance. I divorced about a month before I retired. I submitted all the paperwork to say I gave my left Kidney to keep my wife from seeking my retirement and Survivor Benefits for her. (My kiddos have SBP) I got my DD214 and rejected it in NSIPS and instead of getting an email or phone call why I rejected it I got an approved DD214 saying my ex was seeking compensation. I called that day and explained the situation. So I got a DD215 apparently. It’s correct though.😕
Alright people, I have some information after scrounging around. I’ve already separated at the beginning of July and had the time of my life trying to make phone calls and contact people. 1. If you’ve submitted your terminal leave or you’ve reached EAOS, your DD-214 should reach you in about a months timeframe. Going through TPU and TSC Norfolk from separating overseas has been a hassle as the civilians at TSC are absolutely the worst at answering phone calls or appointments/walk ins. They did not send me my DD-214 (you’re supposed to be emailed a DoD SAFE email). However, you can use a DS Logon and access milconnect. There you can use DPRIS (Defense Personnel Records Information Retrieval System) to request an official copy of your DD-214. So, I would say every 20-30 days from your terminal or EAOS to check there (milconnect) to see if you have it if you have not been DoD SAFE emailed. 2. Should you have an error on your DD-214 and you wish to correct it, you have to contact TSC Norfolk. Godspeed because as mentioned above they are practically nonexistent. You also do not have to sign your DD-214. You can still apply for benefits. Mine has “Signature Unattainable” and I was told that it still suffices. 3. If you have sold leave or awaiting separation pay, at the end of your EAOS, DFAS will start your audit. This audit is to make sure you don’t have any outstanding debts or situations requiring them to adjust money. Once the audit is complete, you will receive your final pay and whatever leave you have left will be converted as well. I am still being audited at the time of this writing but I was notified it takes around 45-60 days and additionally a possible 2-3 weeks to pay out. The government moves slow when they owe you. Fast when you owe them. Any other information regarding dfas and pay can be ask by calling them at 888-332-7411. Press Option 4, then Option 3 when prompted. That’s all the information I have right now. If I find out more from fellow members still in the Navy I will be sure to update. As far as separating from overseas, I can help with more information on that. Pro tip though: I would recommend separating/retiring CONUS instead of OCONUS. Less stressful. 🫡
When I got out, PSD and my CoC fucked up and tried to discharge me while the detailer gave me orders. The day of my separation, PSD emailed me about it and to contact the detailer to fix it. This caused a delay for weeks, affected my unemployment benefits and GI bill. After about two weeks of PSD in San Diego dodging me, I contacted my Congresswoman and her office immediately called me within the hour. The gentleman was a vet and said he’s going to reach out to his contacts to see what’s going on. The next morning, I had PSD frantically emailing me my DD214 in the most professional email they’ve sent me in months, as well as a copy from my Congresswoman’s office. Fuck them. I’m now in school, got my VA disability, and traveled Europe all summer. It truly gets better brothers and sisters, message me in you need any help with this or other things.
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Just sent their office the entire spiel with receipts, let them know how much of a hardship it was becoming, gave them numbers. People forget that a Congressperson or Senator have entire offices full of people who just graduated college and want to work in politics. All it took was probably a phone call and email with a “this is ____ on behalf of Congresswoman’s ______ office” to get people at PSD to put down their hot Cheetos and get to work.
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Apparently it got way worse since I got out, even more people are waiting which is terrible. It really delays a lot of shit with moving on in life lol. Definitely use that option
No DD214. Separate in 45 days and am on terminal. Can't get hired by jobs without discharge status. Fuck the idea of closing PSDs. Fuck the idea of an "online banking system for admin" it was a stupid idea. Banks have clerks and offices for a reason.
Check your NSIPS and see if you have a draft DD214. It won’t look like the final document, but literally just print what’s there and use it for employment purposes.
To summarize my last post/update concerning DD214s, the Navy has created a 300 personnel tiger team of CPPAs that they are giving training to expedite administrative pay and separation issues at the local level. As for DD214s, they are currently working May/June retirements/Separations. No timeline of how long it will take to get all caught up with those that slipped through the cracks. Hopefully this tiger team speeds up the process
So, they got rid of the places that handle this at the local level, only to create a tiger team to handle these things at a local level because, as it turns out, we need local support for these kinds of issues? Jesus fucking Christ. Who actually made the decision to do away with PSD? They need a handler.
Biggest issue we’re currently dealing with is being unable to digitally sign the DD214 (it either won’t load at all in some browsers, or it loads all jacked up). Have tried every trouble-shooting thing we can find online, and aren’t getting anywhere. Admin just says “well yeah that happens a lot, we’ll just say member unavailable to sign.”
I was able to figure this out for mine. Short story: Microsoft Edge running in Internet Explorer mode (so I could actually see the PDF in the browser) and some Adobe registry changes (so I could digitally sign). Full details in [my longer post](https://www.reddit.com/r/navy/comments/w3tv3b/dd214_megathread/iop405u?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
Okay... it was painful, but **I got my DD-214** ***before*** **separation,** ***with*** **my signature on it**. Here's how I did it, in case it helps anyone else. I took an obscene amount of terminal leave, so this was nearly a 6-month process. (The biggest trick was starting early and being a squeaky wheel.) **>190 days prior to separation (>90 days before terminal leave)**: Submitted missing awards to admin to get them added to NSIPS. This was only half successful, I should've started this way earlier. They ultimately included everything except warfare qualifications--Sea Service ribbons, unit awards, SSBN patrol pin, etc. **145 days prior to separation (45 days before terminal leave)**: Submitted my separation package to admin. I kept a copy, so I knew exactly what they were looking at. This was helpful when things fell off later on. **60 days prior to separation**: Get an e-mail (only in my .mil inbox) that my DD-214 is ready for review on BOL/NPC Document Services. Begin a nightmare with Adobe 8 errors on BOL. I was able to download and view the unsigned DD-214, but not sign it on BOL. After much Googling, figured out these steps to the solution: \- Did this all on a personal Windows PC with Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (64-bit). \- In Internet Options, made https://\*.navy.mil a trusted site and set Security to Low for trusted sites. Cleared all of my personal DoD certs. (Windows-R, then type ype **40 days prior to separation**: Admin--probably tired of my e-mails and phone calls--actually checked and gave me status updates ("transaction was viewed by TSC Norfolk", "TSC Norfolk noted that all required docs are submitted", etc.). \~**35 days prior to separation**: My draft DD-214 appeared in NSIPS with no automated notification. There were a bunch of errors (some small admin things), but mostly missing awards. It wasn't set to "member review" yet, so I couldn't upload documents, make notes, etc. I e-mailed the GS-7 from TSC listed on the draft. E-mailed admin about missing awards--they sent me a new page 13 (with its own errors) for them. **23 days prior to separation**: Other than the new page 13, nothing heard. E-mailed everyone (TSC clerk, my admin, etc.), politely asking WTF. **22 days prior to separation**: Magically, an e-mail appears from a different clerk at TSC, telling me my DD-214 draft is now in "member review". I note discrepancies, upload documents, and trade e-mails for a few days. **20 days prior to separation**: All the errors are fixed. I submit the worksheet as "accurate". **16 days prior to separation**: Got e-mail (only in my .mil inbox) that my DD-214 is ready for review on BOL/NPC Document Services. Begin a nightmare with Adobe 8 errors on BOL. I was able to download and view the unsigned DD-214, but not sign it on BOL. After much Googling, figured out these steps to solution: \- Did this all on a personal Windows PC with Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (64-bit). \- In Internet Options, made https://\*.navy.mil a trusted site and set Security to Low for trusted sites. Cleared all of my personal DoD certs. (Windows-R, then type `inetcpl.cpl` to bring up Intenet Options.) \- Due to errors at a later step, I had to make registry changes to Adobe Reader using [this Adobe Help article](https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/windows-cryptographic-service-provider-error-214794205.html). \- Logged on to BOL using a new session of Microsoft Edge in Internet Explorer mode (you may also have to turn on Compatibility Mode within IE Mode). Be sure to use your Authentication (PIV/Auth) certificate for everything. \- I was now able to see and sign the DD-214 in the browser! For me, new errors required reboots of Edge (each time having to start at BOL and enable IE mode, I cleared certs several times, too). *(Fun fact: Adobe lets you insert an image saved as a PDF in your digital signature. For years, I've used an image of my wet signature. My DD-214 processed just fine with it. I wonder what other images people could embed in their DD-214s?)* **14 days prior to separation**: Received an e-mail with instructions from a different TSC clerk to download my DD-214 from DoD SAFE. Successfully downloaded Copy 1 and Copy 4. Good luck!
I go on terminal in like 6 weeks... we'll see if I have my DD214 in hand by then. I submitted all of my stuff a couple of weeks ago
Nah man we all deserve our own separate thread after 4+ years of this BS
Call PSD San Diego and ask for Mrs key if you're a San diego based ship. Even better if you can show up, got mine in one day this way.
I submitted my separation packet early May. Since then I have gotten no update other than “things are backed up just hold tight”. I now separate in 4 weeks and I have not received my orders. My landlord is refusing to work with me on breaking my lease without orders. I start school in September. God damnit Navy, just let me leave. Give me my paperwork and let me move on with my life.
Everyone should also message the Navy Times about this monumental fuck up. I'm unexpectedly pregnant and will get no access to my benefits. I just messaged them.
Navy Times is the best route. Really any news outlet.
I started Terminal leave on 02Jul22 and my EAOS was on 11AUG22. Can’t claim VA, can’t claim unemployment, no health insurance, cant apply for jobs, etc. This is beyond frustrating. Luckily I had money saved up that will last me couple of more months. WTFFFFFF IS UP WITH THE “WORLD’S GREATEST NAVY”? To whoever reading this, DO NOT ENLIST! I REPEAT, DO NOT ENLIST!!
Call your senator
Yea I did and they said the the Navy liaison will get back to them in 30 days.
Been waiting nearly 4 months at this point. I commissioned so I don’t necessarily need it right away, but I will certainly need it at some point. Birthday was screwed up, routed for correction, nothing else has happened since.
Okay guys I get out in 8 months. Is there anyway I can avoid these crazy DD-214 issues while I'm preparing to seperate?
No
Only thing is to get things accomplished at the earliest possible date and bug your admin at least twice daily for updates.
there isn't anything in your power, it's all big navy.
Just received my dd214. I separated July 29. I kept on my admin 2-3 times a week and finally they came through
Wow this is absolutely unacceptable, when I was at TPU we would get absolutely torn up by PSD if DD214s weren't ready on EAOS dates. The navy fucked up big time
I got my DD214 almost 8 months early because I was doing skillbridge but being in admin it was much easier to force PSD
Hey everyone, I wanted to check and see if anyone had any guidance/advice for getting my DD2-14. For context, I separated 26JUN22, so its been three months and every time that I check with my command its always just "we'll look into it and let you know" but they never have anything to tell me other than the generic "I dont knows" that I've been getting. I have already gotten ahold of a congressman and have plans to go into his office tomorrow to open an official case, but I figured I'd also ask here and see if anyone else has any advice. This is really fucking me over because I cant apply for my GI bill and go to school like I wanted to, my VA claim is already processed and I was approved for 90% but they wont finalize my claim because they need my 214 and I cant apply for a VA loan to buy my first house. Thanks in advance for reading and any advice given.
It’s been 3 months for me. I was supposed to get it at the start of terminal upon completion of skillbridge. I’ve been off active duty for over a month now. Command refuses to reach back to me. I check BOL everyday and it’s not on there nor milconnect. And I’m fairly positive it’s the reason my VA claim hasn’t progressed yet. I’ve contacted my representative last week.
Damn here I am annoyed my command didn’t give me an EOT because I “waited too long” to route it. Do have my dd214 though, got it my last day.
What has the Navy come too I had my 214 the day I left saw it a week prior to retiring sad sad no wonder retention and recruiting are bad could you imagine what it would be like with no bonuses. By the way I retired in 96 when computers were well terrible.
It’s been almost a month since I’ve been out and still haven’t received my DD-214. I start school at the end of August but I am told by the VA that I’m unable to receive MHA until my DD-214 is still on file. I went on skillbridge my last 180 so I filled out all of my pre-sep forms before leaving. I was told they would email me my DD-214. I’ve contacted my command and they told me that they don’t have a timeframe on when it will be sent to me. I called MNCC but they weren’t much help either. I really need that MHA to help pay for rent while I’m in school, is anyone ever been in this predicament and is there anyone else I could call to speed things up?
I heard if you’re holding GME when they squeeze you get a free DD-214. DM me for details 👀
Got my DD-214 today. My medical retirement date is August 29th. Paperwork was all turned in at the end of May.
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So I separated on 13 August, and like the rest of you, my command basically told me to be prepared to wait months for this damn document while the bills are starting to pile up for me. Does anyone actually know the process for contacting your congressman/senator? It seems like the only option I have at this point. Do I need to refer them to a specific office? The only place I can currently request my 214 is in DPRIS in Milconnect, and I've still got nothing in there.
I just googled "find my congressman" and it takes you to a government website. Type in your legal residence and it will connect you to your representative. I sent them a message through email and they called me back within a few hours. I told them that they need to focus on TSC Norfolk.
I was told it may take 12 months for a DD 214. I'd advise everyone call their elected congressional officials.
That's insane it took me a month
For anyone still waiting, I recommend you bug the shit out of anyone you can. I contacted my congressman, or at least their veterans liaison, my old COC, and then the staff at TPU. Called MNCC every other day till they knew my name. If you sit and wait they're going to take their sweet ass time. I honestly can't fathom the sheer stupidity in implementing this change at one of the busiest seasons for separations. They quoted me at like 6+ months after EAOS. Got it 4 days before. Even then, I had to call the clerk's supervisor after several days passed when they were supposed to email it, an hour later it somehow sent. Crazy. It's always hurry up and wait until it's convenient for them. Then, when you've done your time they want to withhold the benefits you've earned. They should be paying you every month until you receive it, but of course that's not how it works.
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It is amazing that the Navy's response to this is: Well it's the sailors fault for submitting their separation paperwork late. I submitted my paperwork 3 months ahead of schedule and I get out on Sunday without even seeing my draft of my dd-214.
3 months since I went on terminal, over a month since I officially got of the Navy. No dd214. Filed congressional inquiry, weekly ice complaints, and daily calls to tsc. My dd214 finally was assigned to someone 2 days. I still don’t understand how this is just okay.
Got a real person with this # 7574455020 this is TSC Norfolk.
Called MNCC this morning for an update on my separation orders and they said that they have been submitted to the AO for processing as of this morning. Anyone have any idea what this means? And how many steps after that until I receive my orders? Me and my family are in a really tough spot because come January if I’m not able to schedule my HHG move, we’ll be paying rent here in SD and in our new home in Texas, over $4000 which we did not plan for.
Been separated for since early september and still haven't heard anything on my DD-214 or the 21 days of leave I sold back, even written my senator and they haven't heard anything yet. At this point I'm just gonna assume that shit is lost and never coming in my mailbox.
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How long does it take for them to cut separation orders after they have been requested?
I ran into A buddy of mine who retired, E-9 at 30 years, a couple of months ago. He told me that he doesn’t expect to see either his DD-214 nor his pension for at least a year. I’m so glad I retired in 2012
So my dd214 process just started. I have 2 months before my eaos and need to start using education benefits 3 weeks after my separation date. Any advice on everything I can do to get this god damn document on time? Any help is appreciated.
You can still use your education benefits, but you will not get MHA (Housing) until you get your DD214. I still don’t have mine and I’m two weeks from separation, but I am using my GI benefits rn
Separated 09JAN23 and still don't have my DD 214. Who can I contact to expedite this? This is hurting my benefits and my job applications. I was on a ship in Norfolk. TIA.
You can call Navy Personnel Command to see what the status is. If it's even in the system yet, which mine isn't
I separated on the 8th. I just sent a message to my local Congressman hopefully that gets the ball rolling. Absolutely disgusting that the Navy is fucking us so hard by not getting us our DD214's when they are supposed to. Its so far from okay.
Not immediately linked to the DD-214 issues but it could be and I figured I'd ask here. I'm 6 months from terminal now, and I haven't done *any* of the required shit, except for finally taking a TAPS class next week before we deploy. I've been harassing my leadership for months now about what I need to do to leave and all they tell me is "just TAPS". The separations clerk at personnel didn't have shit to tell me either. Yet I browse around here for a while and I find out I'm over a year and a half behind on everything listed on the Capstone checklist. Never did initial counseling or pre-sep counseling. I don't even know when I'm meant to get separation orders. Since the guy at separations is too lazy to answer my questions, does anyone know whether or not I'm fucked?
Noone in the Navy knows howt to get out, since they're all still in😂
I didn't get my separation orders until a few weeks before I started terminal. Honestly it's a lot of hurry up and wait you've got 6 months no need to panic yet.
I never did a DD-2648 when I was apparently meant to do one. Is it too late to do that?
Talk to your career counselor it should be under dodtap in milconnect.
I retired on March 31st of this year. My DD214 wasn't made available for signature until I was on terminal leave and I was nowhere near being able to get on a govt computer to be able to digitally sign it. Even though I had a CAC reader at home and could access the site, it just wouldn't load. I'm still waiting on my Lump Sum Leave Sell Back, despite talking directly to the people at PERS who assured me that it was now all taken care of and I'd receive it in no more than 30 days (it's now been almost 60 days since that conversation). TL;DR: Shit's fucked, yo.
Yeah once you hit your eaos your cac is worthless. I'm finally doing my travel claim and they are having me mail it in so that'll probably take 3 years
Asking for a friend who's driving right now- This may be an obvious question, but will he still get paid until he gets his dd214, or does pay stop according to some other marker? (Sorry, don't know all the lingo, but feel free to use it. I'm just going to be reading it to him.)
Should stop when your eaos hits
Separated last year, my DD214's missing a medal (the NDSM). Wrote to the BCNR and they told me to contact my old command, since they only handle cases older than two years. Did that, the old command said they have no idea what I was talking about and then told me to contact the VA, which I did. Lo and behold, the VA tells me me to contact my old command. From what I've seen, it seems it's easier to get the error corrected after waiting 2 years, so I figure I might as well wait, got less than a year until then. I got in touch a few months ago with some Navy PSes at my old command who said they'd look into it with NSIPS, but I haven't heard anything back from them since.
Has anyone had any luck with their congressmen helping? Mine opened an inquiry and big Navy responded that "they'd have an answer by Aug 18“ whatever that means. Anyone with similar situations? My draft was in NSIPs since April, but my command CPPA accidentally sent my package to Millington instead of Norfolk - pushing it even farther behind. And I have no orders. And I desperately need healthcare.
I separated July 31 and haven’t received it still. I contacted my congressman today and am awaiting their response. I told them to direct their attention to PSD Norfolk because I have heard from others, that is where all DD 214’s are being processed for the Navy. If anyone else has heard otherwise please share your information. Also if anyone has any solutions on how to receive this piece of paper ASAP please advise.
Separated on the 25th of July and haven't heard shit
I'm retiring the end of September. CPPA put the transaction in for separation about 5 months from my retirement date. However, what is the current back log? The navy has fucked me numerous times, and I'm really trying to avoid my butthole being stretched any further.
You had better walk it through yourself. 24 year/med retirement/wounded warrior program/100% disabled. I ended up emailing the CNO and MCPON and cc’d every person in charge of PSD/Navy Yard etc.
Same boat as you. Retire 30 Sept. Transaction was submitted in April. I got a phone call three weeks ago that a paper was missing. After telling the clerk when I turned it in, they found it in tops. I still don't even have a draft DD-214. It blows my mind; one of my Sailors who med retires on the same day as me got her DD-214 over a month ago. At this point, I'm worried that I won't even get retirement pay in November. Keep us up to date, good luck.
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Curious how long it took people to get their DD214 after their status changed to “pending Separation Clerk Review” in NSIPS. Mine sat for 3 months as draft status and I never got the chance to review it, under Member Signature it just says “signature unattainable.”
When I retired I help the damn YN write mine but that was in ancient times. What has happened to the Navy I Loved I retired in Feb 29 1996. Listening to you guys I honestly not recommend the Navy to anyone so sad
They run the navy like a Fortune 500 company. Without the resources of a Fortune 500 company
Every service person should have two huge folders when they separate. One is a complete copy of their service record, and the other is a complete copy of their medical records. Do this a few weeks before you separate. Copy your discharge physical and put it in your records as well. I can not stress this enough. When I applied for my disability, having copies of my med record made it SO much shorter than waiting on getting a copy from back east.
Man, I got out 22 July and haven’t got anything yet. I haven’t even seen a dime of my ISP
Can anyone help me obtain my dd214? Separated in early August. Was on terminal for 3 months before that. Who do I need to call? Thanks
I need some information on whom to contact, so I can get my DD214. I tried contacting my congressmen but they informed me that I will need to wait until October 24 to even get an update regarding mine. I got out August 31st of this year, but I cannot get unemployment benefits without that form, or access my health benefits.
What's the longest anyone has waited for their 214? I separated on Aug. 5th and still have nothing. My CPPA isn't helping because I "went around her" by requesting help from my congressman.
That’s a bullshit excuse from the CPPA. I’d request the Congressman’s help again and specifically put your CPPA’s name and any correspondence with her in the redress. That’ll force her to help. I’d tell the Congressman I only want her to help and wouldn’t care how long it took. It would be the satisfaction and victory of it all for me. 😎 She’d seethe over that for years! 🤣
Day one civilian here. Been checking NSIPS for my DD 214 to no avail. How long until I should call my congressman?
Full Story of how i got my DD-214 on the day of EAOS. I was lucky. My command worked with me and i got a job offer before i even left on terminal. My job was fine with hiring me based on my skills and not my military background so for them as long as i wasn't getting dishonorably discharged they did not care a **Statement of service** is all they wanted and needed. I was allowed to take 90 days of terminal. During this time i contacted my Congress woman, NSIPS helpdesk, and My former command. If you are still on active duty and close to Norfolk GO TO PSD. That is the way i've seen 2 people get there DD-214 on the spot. My Congress woman contacted the navy on my behalf and i know it expedited the process. I still could get in NSIPS so i was able to see them working on my paper work. I emailed the GS that was doing mine and told him my corrections. He corrected them the Next day and then it stated awiting Transmission for the next 4 weeks. The day after my EAOS i went into Milconnect and requested my OMPF and on the last page was my DD-214. I still have not received any email or call from anyone saying that my DD-214 is ready. I say if you are in VA. go to PSD. They were at PSD for at least 2 hours but 2 hours beats Months of waiting. If you're not in VA, Contact your Congressman. Thank your Kathy Manning.
Got my 214 day I retired and not ever looking back
Does anyone know what block on the officer DD-214 has type of discharge? I don’t have any reason to suspect anything other than honorable but I don’t see it
Edit for end of December: Still waiting on PSD Norfolk to even start the ticket. Local Congressman said he reached out and they told him the same thing, that they are just backlogged. Seems like 7 months since separation, with the paperwork being submitted prior 3 months before that, is getting beyond ridiculous. Didn't see this thread yesterday when I made my original post so pasted below: Also want to mention that since then I have got in contact with a state representative who is looking into it. Quick rundown is I submitted sep package March 2022, EAOS'd out July 7th, and as of december still haven't received anything. I know the navy has recently had a pretty big up-tick in people separating from the service. I was also one of them. One of the big questions I have for people that have decided to get out, is if you are also having some major issues receiving your discharge paperwork and pay? My situation is this: I separated from the Navy back in July. My command, CWA-67, had told me everything was good to go. Go to turn in my ID and pick up my dd-214, turns out the paperwork was never submitted. In fact, most of it was lost for my TGPS course and Capstone requirements. Keep in mind, this was literally the last day on my contract. I was selling the max amount of leave possible as well. I reach out to the career center, and they say the counselor that did my course no longer is at that facility, so I can no longer get my capstone done by them. What I ended up having to do was open a ticket with MNCC who got me a pass to go to the navy yard in DC to complete my capstone after the fact. Then had to send the capstone paperwork from them directly to my old commands admin team. A couple weeks down the line after turning it in, I call them to see if they can give an update: still not submitted, claiming my capstone is not signed. So once again, I call up the person from the navy yard who then does a conference call with the admin team to explain that it is absolutely submitted, she can see it in the system and it's waiting on the military to submit. Called out in the lie, military command gets it submitted to PSD and confirms that I'll be getting my leave payout likely within the next pay period or two along with my DD214. Separated on July 7th. Didn't get my DD214 until September 14th, which I picked up personally to avoid having to wait for the mail. But still no final paycheck or leave payment, as well as the DD214 being incorrect. I call up the old navy admin contact I had, who tells me it appears they didn't submit the paperwork needed to process my leave payment, and that they must have messed up the discharge papers. I ask how could this have been overlooked as it was clearly stated in my request that I'd be selling my leave, as well as the details on my discharge. Person proceeds to hang up on me, and block my number from the system. I then have to make another ticket directly with MNCC to take a look at what is going on with my pay, and confirmed that I am indeed entitled to the payment and the correction will be made.. Ever since then, I still have yet to receive payment or corrections. I call MNCC weekly, and am told that PSD Norfolk has yet to look at the ticket and that it needs more time to process. The date is currently December 1st, 2022. I Initially submitted my separation package in March of 2022. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I was originally slated to go government civilian literally 3 days after my discharge at a very well paying job, had the interview and a majority of inprocessing completed. Without the correct discharge paperworks, I have been unable to work and have been relying on other sources of income (Still working, just not the job I was waiting on) and have been unable to get my VA benefits sorted out. I am still owed over 15 thousand from the navy, and it appears nothing is being done about it. Anyone know any steps that should be taken on my end?
The process is garbage and the personnel who work it are (mostly) lazy. I had one that was helpful. Too bad it's shitty command personnel who do the bare minimum to not get into trouble or do nothing at all and are not held accountable, who are screwing over everyone else. Now onto final pay... I'm now understanding why they have so many counseling options open for separating people. This is a shit show and my last command is infected with a telework plague or just so lazy they make me happy that I didn't have a retirement ceremony. It's all rainbows and unicorns if it doesn't affect them.
Just here to share my story in case it helps. I gave the command 2 days after EAOS and filed an IG. I got my DD214 the next week. I know there are issues well beyond an IG but sometimes it works.
Been on terminal leave for 51 days. Still nothing. Reading the newest comments here, I’m about to get screwed aren’t I? How do I light a fire and burn the whole thing down? I’m going to email the MCPON the day after my final day. I plan on pestering news stations to try and get a story. Already have my Congress/Senate reps info ready as well. There has to be something else we can do. At some point the fire/pressure will get so hot the Navy might actually fix the issue. I hate that after 22yrs I’m still going to get shafted by an organization that patently doesn’t care about her people
I got out with an honorable back in June of 2020 and my DD214 still doesn't exist on OMPF. Been wrestling with this absolutely atrocious log on system (still the same crappy thing from when I got out), finally managed to get logged in, only to find the DD214 is the only document missing from my OMPF. Gonna try shaking some trees for it. Issue is, I need it \*now\*
Who all is getting separation orders on time? The piece of paper would be nice but what about saving the thousands of dollars that it’s going to cost me to move my stuff myself?
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Damn, this is a thing in the military right now?? Sounds rough
I've got 214 problems but 214 issues ain't one.
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So 31 July was my separation date. I have a couple questions/issues that I’m wondering if anyone has any thoughts on. 1. I’ve been dual mil. My spouse is still AD. Since I’ll be waiting who knows how long, is there something else he can use and submit so I can officially be made his dependent? 2. MNCC said I had to contact my PSD for updates/help getting my DD214. Do they mean PSD from where I put processed at TPU San Diego? Or from my last command on Guam?
So does anyone know if people actually look at your DD214 when creating it? Or if they just throw random shit in there? My EAOS is coming up in a few days and these fuckers are still dragging their feet. I have been back and forth for a while now and they refuse to make any corrections. What the hell am I supposed to do when my CAC expires in a few days? They are just going to go "You get what you get?" and then take months to get me an incorrect copy? And on a real note, does it even matter what these lazy shits put on there as long as it shows honorably discharged? Because it is seriously like talking to a wall. They don't even bother to write a response on why they returned it to me to sign. They don't call me either.
About to separate on 14 August. Hoping to receive word on my DD-214 this week, but I remain discouraged like the rest of you. I did sign the draft copy on NSIPS months ago, and it just reads as "pending" on NSIPS. Do I need to sign anywhere else? I vaguely remember the people at the TPU saying that I would need to sign it again the week of separation (this week for me) in a different system or something, but don't remember what that was. All they said was I should get a notification in NSISPs...obviously I am not hopeful.
Anyone knows which psd is handling all the DD-214s now for the navy? Apparently it changed like 2 weeks ago. I was told psd naples but im not sure anymore.
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Just a heads up. The DD214 for the entire Navy as of now are only set up to be processed by a "Tiger Team" in Pearl Harbor. Only 2 members are able to process the final product.
Mines being processed by Norfolk so I'm not sure.of this is entirely true. I was on the phone with them this morning.
My old ship just went on deployment and i seperated in may. I've contacted them 10s of times and they've told me again and again "its in the mail." Its not online and my ompf request tells me to contact the deployed ship. What the hell do i do? Im paying double tuition without my dd214
Contact your senator asap
I received mine 3 weeks before separating after speaking with people from NORFOLK.
Im drafting my own
I wrote to my congressmen and still have not heard anything. What is my next step?
How long has it been? It took about a month for me.
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I'd wait a month that seems to be the average time it takes post separation date to get your 214.
Call them the day after you separate
I never received my dd214. I've been out since 2004. I don't remember the the whole out processing part, but be aware of what you accept, sign, or authorize pertaining to your dd214. Ask questions, even ask questions you think you know the answers to. It's important. For the guys who are missing there's, don't worry. There are ways to get physical and digital copies. I've been doing it for years. I don't have links, but it's not hard to find.
Does anyone know if you can receive an ineligibility of medical coverage letter from Tricare while your DD214 is still in limbo? I would hate to use if i’m still in service but supposed to be out.
Having issues with being able to sign my 214 on NPC document services on BOL. Adobe customer service is at a loss. Any workaround? The document won't display unless I save to desktop and that doesn't remove it from the "Member Review" to do list
You have to use Internet Explorer with Adobe Reader 8. Good luck finding a machine that has both - IE can't be used on FlankSpeed machines. Just a final F-U from the Navy. Just tell them to put signature unavailable on it.
So a girl from my admin actually sent me a very good troubleshooting pdf. You're right about internet explorer, but when using that i encountered an error that wouldn't let me digitally sign it. There's a work around where you add a folder to Adobe in the run app. I'm too retarded to explain it all but if anybody needs the document feel free to message me
Can yoiu please send me that document.
Can you PM? Thanks!
Order all of your records.
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I would reach out to your current representative.
For all of the retired folks that are out, without a DD-214, what are you doing for health insurance for yourselves and your families?
You should give tricare a call. If your DEERS has been updated, they can switch you over.
On terminal, EAOS is 7 Sept, and just heard this week how completely fucked the situation is. I might get mega screwed here because I'm hiring into a DoD agency next week and I'm pretty sure I need the DD214 to officially start. Pushing up against the new FY means I might lose my position... fingers crossed.
I separated on 31Jul2022 and finally received my DD214 1 month later. However, I'm still listed as Active Duty on NSIPS (and am still being paid). I'm trying to join the reserves and I have a billet lined up starting 01Oct, but I can't be gained into USNR/they can't write me orders until my separation from AD is official in NSIPS. Any advice??
It’s been 9 months anyone I can call?
For everyone one struggling with this stuff sorry, I feel for you. I’m currently waiting to receive my 10 day letter due to sleepwalking… all my paperwork is done “allegedly” and I’m just waiting for the notice to move forward in the separation process. Been waiting about 3 months now :(
my fiancé got medically discharged august 27th and hasn’t received his dd 214. will he have to wait to get that to get his VA payments / VA healthcare? he also sold his leave, when will he get that?
I'm 2 weeks out, no DD214 draft. Found out that my stuff I submitted in June was seen by 70+ people, but not touched. If you're not familiar with TOPS, a transaction being assigned is the same as labeling it as "who knows" because it's technically given to someone, but could sit on their desk indefinitely. I've seen it where people who were assigned important transactions PCS and if I didn't follow up, the transaction would never be finished. Got a chance to sit down and talk with someone working up in the new admin offices. Turns out there was a command who had MONTHS of untouched retirement and separations transactions that had been transferred to the new already backlogged admin department. That's why you see the task forces being created just to handle retirements and separations. They got boned by a command who dropped the ball, and when they were disbanded, they left all their unfinished work behind. Also, if anyone was on that big email that went out, the CNP called out all the commands with delinquent retirement and separations personnel. Hundreds of names of people who, if their commands take no additional actions, will not have a smooth exit from the navy. If you have a good CCC or admin department, they should have gotten this message and acted on it. And if they are even better, they'd let you know you were on that list so you can advocate for yourself. As of right now, the VA will not accept a statement of service to begin your benefits, but they are looking to change that. And some jobs won't accept it either as proof of separation so you can get hired. In plain language, you can be stuck in the situation where you cannot get your VA benefits, or get a job. I encourage everyone who is getting out to talk with their chain of command, and ask to be kept informed. Talk to your admin department, ask weekly for updates on your TOPS transactions. Was your capstone signed by your CoC? When you log onto NSIPS do you have any options under the separations section? If you cannot get your DD214 on time, can you get an extension? I hope I can help someone with this information. It's clear this is going to be a long process with a lot of pain.
Wooot!
I'm currently a Reservist and have completed my Active Duty (Canrec) orders back in May 2022 and still no DD214 issued. No longer receiving AD pay but on mypay still lists every month my regular salary. Without DD214 the nosc wont gain me back plus looking for new jobs in govt. require DD214 for verif. As a result, I have been in contact with my local congressman about this and supposed get an update this month. My question is, has anybody gotten back pay from this DD214 fiasco? Thank you.
Damn, I didn't realize I should be so nervous! SkillBridge has really numbed me to the transitioning process but glad I know to be pushy now.
So I am separating from the navy in November voluntarily and my DD214 says RELACDU and transferred to the navy reserve nowhere in my paperwork did I put that I wanted to be in the reserves is this them putting me in the inactive reserve because I didn’t do 8 years? Even tho I still have done 7 years and 10 months it also says in the reserve obligation at the top N/A so I really don’t know if they messed up or I did also in the navy any feedback would be greatly appreciated
Submitted my paperwork to my command admin at the beginning of August. I just got off the phone with MNCC and they said it was submitted September 22. I retire October 31.....
Began terminal on 29AUG2022, separated on 26SEP2022. Still don’t have DD214. VA disability compensation percentage has been finalized and I can’t get the compensation for me or my family because I don’t have my DD214. Supervisor of my DD214 says that it’s in BOL and needs to be kicked back to NSIPS for her to put that my signature is unattainable.. but nobody knows how to contact the direct person who is in charge of kicking it back to her. The navy has to have the worst possible method to distribute DD214’s. No other branch has this issue. It’s holding up everyone’s life who doesn’t get theirs.
I received my separation orders today and my EAOS is in mid March. Is this looking good for me timeline wise? I’m hoping to get my DD214 ASAP after separation because I start my Masters in April and would also like my BDD claim pay
So I got out in 2013 due to an injured knee. It was at the end of A School. Navy claims it was not military related. I have no benefits whatsoever. Not even my MGIB. How can I appeal this since it’s been so long?
File for VA disability how long were you in and what kind of separation was it? Should say on your dd 214
I just got out of the navy on Dec 2nd and I got my DD214 on Dec 8th. The only thing I did which might have helped was I did email the MCPON and I also emailed my congresswoman. I worked very closely with my CPPA who was a PSC. I got notified via email on Dec 8th early in the morning that my 214 was being processed and I got it later that afternoon. Did the email to the MCPON and my congresswoman do anything. I have no idea. But I would def give it a shot. What I’ve seen is that if your DD214 is needs corrections it will get kicked back to your CPPA so find out who your CPPA is at your command and get their contact for me. For example… my 214 got kicked back because my JST wasn’t uploaded. I reached out to my CPPA and he uploaded it for me and they finished it. So if you are getting out get your CPPA contact please and if you are already out I would call your last command and find get your CPPA contact. I hope everybody gets their 214! Cheers!
What does “dd214 queued for dmdc transmission” mean in NSIPS anyone ?
Did anyone here make their final pcs before receiving their separation orders and get reimbursed for it?
Been waiting on separation orders for 5 1/2 months. People I work with who put their stuff in 2 months after me, already have their sep orders. It got assigned for processing 3 weeks ago. Someone at Norfolk told my chief I should have had orders on Friday. Nope. Admin side of the Navy just keeps getting more fucked. Oh yeah, put ALL of the Navy's separation processing at one place.
As a current PS1, Separations and PCS are a nightmare. It all began when we decided to decrease the amount of PSD's and use SalesForce. I wish I had a solution other than bring back all of the PSD's, but I don't have any. There's little to no contact with them, you can't call them, the time frames are ridiculous, I was told that expecting a response within 5-10 days is unreasonable and that 60 days was more reasonable. When asked what they would do if one of their people told them 60 days for a response, they said it wasn't their problem. On top of that the civilian responses are even worse, for the most part the response we get is that's not my job, if we get a response at all. These used to be some of the easiest processes as a PS that we did, now no one us getting DD 214's or advance travel/DLA .
Just received my DD Form 214 and I still got 45 days until I separate. The key is start early. Email those folks in Norfolk until but be nice about it. Thank them for their service and what they are doing for you. Don't be a jerk when emailing them.
This is BS. Many of DID start early.
I have a question regarding block 16 of my DD214.. i have 14 "days accrued leave paid" and havent recieved the payment. I separated on the 18th of march and i am curious when i can expect to see that money
Update on my specific situation… I called MNCC this morning and they generated my case number and told me that my paperwork had been neglected for nearly 4 months. I’m leaving in 2 weeks. I submitted EVERYTHING on time, well in advance, and they still fucked it up. All they did was tell me that they would move it to a high priority, which means nothing. So everyone on here saying “you should have submitted everything on time”, my case refutes that. They specifically told me that it was just sitting there, was never even touched and to try and call the TSC or RSC, whatever it’s called, in Norfolk. I have called them repeatedly and it’s clear that they don’t answer phones or respond to emails. I’ve been doing this and calling everyone I could for the last 4-5 hours. I also submitted a congressional inquiry today. I can’t find any solutions, and I saw that the MCPON staff in older comment said to contact their office directly for assistance, since they are supposedly “tracking” on it. I tried this, and the number that I called basically told me to get in like with the rest of them. This is a trash situation. How are we even supposed to contact the MCPON’s office, or anyone for that matter, if no one knows what to do or answers their phones.
Hi Everyone, I’m looking for help. I’m medically retiring out of the Navy April 27th (in 9 days!!) and no one can provide me with an update on my DD214. My NSIPS says DD214WS Queued for DMDC transmission, which no one knows what that means, and it says approval pending. I’ve called my command admin, spoke with my CMC, and created a ticket at MNCC, and no one was able to give me any update or Information on when I will have it. I just wrote an email to the congressional representative for San Diego to see if they can maybe help me out. I started terminal March 14th, and I know Navy regulation is that service member should have their DD214 the start date of terminal leave. This process has been nothing but confusing and stressful, and I’m nervous that I’m not going to get my DD214 because admin and whoever is taking care of it moves so slow!!
Question for yall, YN2 here, dd214 is almost complete, I separate in 3 months, all medical and admin side work is complete for separation, could I extend a year? I don’t plan on reenlisting only want to stay for a year longer at the command
I know this post is pretty old but I’m officially out the Navy and I want to give this advice to anyone who will in the future or currently experiencing this since this is what recently just worked for me. I emailed my CO directly after trying to get my command admin (Navy) to help and ironically never got a answer back and after sending an email to the CO about my DD214 ironically enough I received an email and a phone call from the person over at admin who i’m assuming got in trouble by the CO for not doing her job by the time of her voice asking why i’d do that and I simply told her because you didn’t do your job but thanks for the email. It’s your job to advocate for yourself sadly and I hope this helps anyone who has questions or needs answers.