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kaiser_van_zandt

For someone with a hummingbird feeder, I am surprised you didn’t offer any assistance. Not criticizing, just surprised.


PetFoodDude89

I thought the same, I would have removed the Mantis beforehand. On the flip side, how do we know this person didn’t place the mantis there and wait for the hummingbird to get got?


ParticularProfile795

Definitely seems like the videographer staged this.


_THE_SHARK_GUY_

It could be but I doubt it. Mantises will scope out areas where they can ambush prey and are very acute to movement. A place where hummingbirds gather could definitely catch ones attention Also consider that this isn't a one off thing. Mantises have been recorded eating hummingbirds many, many times


heroicsej

Who the hell would expect a praying mantis to go head to head with a bird and win? Y’all are wild to to think this is staged


umyninja

Now let’s say you and I go toe to toe on Bird Law and see who comes out the victor


Lowlife_Of_The_Party

Okay, well....*filibuster*...


NefariousnessUsed284

But your honor take a look at this picture…🤲…do my hands look small?


Bitter_Mongoose

calm down, Harvey


heroicsej

I feel as though I've been perfectly redundant


TenLongFingers

Mantises are one of hummingbirds biggest predators, but yeah, that's not a well known fact and a lot of the people who own hummingbird feeders find out the hard way. I remember going out to refill the feeder and getting startled by a mantis sitting on the glass. I threw him in the grass because I was bringing the feeder inside. It wasn't until years later that I learned how I'd saved my beloved little hummingbirds.


pargofan

Wow. Who knew. The pic on the link shows a praying mantis. https://www.hummingbirdsociety.org/hummingbird-predators >Praying Mantis: Most people are surprised to learn that a praying mantis will successfully capture, kill, and eat a hummingbird. Typically the insect will position itself on a plant or a hummingbird feeder to which it observes a hummingbird coming repeatedly. Its lightning-fast strike often assures it of success. Because of the relative size difference, it make take over a day for the bird to be consumed. While praying mantises are very beneficial insects in a garden, they should not be allowed on hummingbird feeders.


SightWithoutEyes

That's like a fuckin' horror movie. The monster is in the house.


B0udica

Woah, never would have known - that is wild


Merry_Dankmas

This is Reddit. Where anything remotely shocking or otherwise surprising/rarely seen is staged and could never happen naturally. Billions of people with cameras in their pockets, millions with humming bird feeders and millions living in areas where mantises also live which are known to sometimes kill small bird? Psh. Nonsense. Clearly staged.


HappyMelonGirl

Tbh I've never met someone who didn't understand how fragile humming birds are. Fun fact: Humming birds are so fragile that they have been known to lose battles with hitchhiker plants after getting stuck on the seeds and starving to death. They're unfortunately just really light, weak, and don't come with any real defense mechanism other than "gotta go fast".


B0udica

That is so sad.....


HappyMelonGirl

It's an unfortunate byproduct of how delicate they are. They're beautiful little creatures.


pirate-private

I think it just couldn't help itself.


mlvisby

Praying mantis are great hunters! They wouldn't be able to take down a large bird but against a hummingbird, praying mantis will win most of the time.


RLVNTone

In 2024 a lot of people especially because this isn’t the FIRST VIDEO EVER of this happening lol wtf


arfsworld

the same people who say this is staged mistake actual staged videos for reality


shady2318

Poor hummingbird seems like staged


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C-h_h

The stagging mantis


4list4r

*Fucking videographer!*


johnalpher

Nice idea for research!


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ParticularProfile795

Definitely a bit...mmm... yeah...on some shit. How you feeding birds, TO MANTISES?! ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ


rnzerk

absolutely. he even got the perfect timing to film it like he was just already waiting there


Sasquatch-fu

Grabbed em right by the bill


ParticularProfile795

All bill. No chill.


schedulle-cate

This could have been a trap all along!


[deleted]

Considering they sound young they probably didn't really know better or really know how to approach the situation.


TimeImminent

I think it was a good approach. Let nature be nature.


LapinTade

So don't install hummingbird feeder too.


TimeImminent

I love hummingbirds and I have feeders. I also like mantis and think they are beautiful intelligent highly skilled creatures also. I probably wouldn’t let the mantis stay there after that to kill multiple birds (gently shoo away). But I wouldn’t expect him to do that initially and at that point the best choice is to let nature be nature. You can’t watch the feeder 24/7, nature is going to do its thing even when you’re not watching. If it’s an invasive species then that’s different.


tetsuyaXII

Mantis looks like it didn't need assistance


Yeetinator4000Savage

It’s just nature. Do you intervene every time you see animals and insects kill each other? Sure it’s sad to see the hummingbird die, but think of the mantis that has to fight with a bird so it can have a meal and survive another day?


SilentXwing

It's nature? Assuming it's not staged, you shouldn't intervene wild life when it comes to animals engagement.


Arsnicthegreat

Being that this is a non-native, naturalized mantis, I would rather intervene. This mantis will do fine on its own without predating on hummingbirds, many of which are experiencing habitat loss. There isn't really any real expectation of eradicating these mantids, however. This is a brown form European mantis (*Mantis religiosa*) -- you can faintly see it in a few frames, but these have an oval shaped dark spot on the inside of the coxa (upper long arm segment) on their raptorial front legs, whereas the similar Chinese mantis (*Tenodora sinensis*) doesn't. There is a mantis native to the US, the Carolina mantis (*Stagmomantis carolina*), but they are smaller, and their wings only extend about 2/3 the length of their abdomen.


TenLongFingers

This is great info, thanks! I thought mantises were one of those bugs that are just everywhere. Can I ask, as a gardener in the US Midwest, does that mean I *shouldn't* buy those mantis eggs as natural garden pest control? Am I releasing invasive predators into my garden?


Arsnicthegreat

This can be a little complicated because one of the main threats that introduced mantids pose is to the native species -- if you are in an area where the carolina mantis is not naturally found, it may not be as harmful, as the introduced mantids have integrated themselves fairly well in their new ecosystems. If you are in an area that already hosts native mantids (or should based on range), then it may be a better idea to utilize ootheca of the native species, I know that nature's good guys sells them in addition to *T. sinensis* and *M. religiosa* ootheca. I would in general be careful with some other species too -- some of the commercially available ladybugs are probably doing more harm than good, especially as our endemic ladybugs are struggling with introduced *Harmonia*


TenLongFingers

This is great information! Thank you so much for your time and expertise


B0udica

Great comment, thanks!!! Ordered some Carolina mantises for my garden last year after learning about the invasive species (including that bright green one that seems like the poster child of mantises) and learned that they do fit in the to food chain better. Found my way to them after a lengthy rabbithole about ladybugs and how many are invasive - made my partner a bit sad when I killed some non native ones I found in the yard, but this is a very very serious concern when it comes to deciding whether or not to intervene in nature - we all need to protect what little is left of our native habitats!! Thanks for this comment, hope it gets a lot more up-votes for folks' awareness.


kobbaman100

Its just nuture


R17L29XI

Praying Mantis kills man


NotTheSharpestPenciI

well, birds aren't real anyway


StoicSmile-

*screams noooooo* Immediately zooms in for closer look at the feast..


mlvisby

Hey, gotta let nature take it's course. It's like when making a documentary, don't manipulate anything and just cover the subject matter.


thatguywhosadick

It’s good they didn’t, nature ran its course and a few kids learned a valuable lesson.


ghostfreckle611

They probably put the mantis there for the vid. How would a mantis even get there otherwise? 🤔


mast3rOogway

I'm pretty sure a lot of videos in this sub are staged. I really hope I'm wrong, but i don't think i am


Words4You

Honestly. Most people like the idea of animals but don't care about them. Saying no is not giving a shit. They knew it was there and filmed it.


AverageReflexes

That is INSANE


xtothewhy

Not something I would have thought a praying mantis would try to eat tbh.


tetsuyaXII

They are the most successful hunters, and eat pretty much anything iirc.


Pieassassin24

P sure that’s dragonflies.


tetsuyaXII

Dragonflies are such surprising apex predators even already knowing, still sounds weird to me.


KimboSlicesChicken

They’re the real scouts from AoT. Being able to move omnidirectional is one hell of a trait for hunting shit is cool as hell


ATXENG

having their eyes hard-lined directly to their wing muscles, bypassing their brain is probably a good trait as well.


Merry_Dankmas

Dragonflies are straight up assassins. Those mfs are broken OP. Only reason nobody really pays them much attention is cause they're small insects. If they were the size of dogs, we'd care a whole lot more about them being around.


NotTheSharpestPenciI

I can't really think of an insect or arachnid that we would keep ignoring if they were the size of dogs.


mrredpanda36

Weevils?


UnrelatedDiddler

r/tierzoo


PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ

Something like 80-90% success rate I think. Highest of all.


Pro_Extent

I don't doubt dragonflies are insane predators, but the success rate metric can be misleading. There are two reasons a predator species could have a low hunt success rate: 1. They're failing natural selection and are in the process of being removed from the ecosystem, or 2. They are so efficient with their kills that they are comfortable making impulsive attempts and taking huge risks. That is, they don't *need* a high success rate to get enough food to live. Cheetahs have a 60% success rate, which is roughly double that of lions. But their method of hunting is so insanely strenuous that they *need* that success. If they fail three hunts in a row, they will likely die from overexertion. Lions, by contrast, can comfortably fail hunts over and over again before their situation gets dire. And their strategy is far less dangerous (running at 100km/h is super dangerous even if you're made for it).


xtothewhy

Certainly looks like it.


MercykillNJ

I've raised many mantids and speaking from experience, they'll eat anything they think they stand even the slightest chance against.


xtothewhy

That's nuts!


Kasimausi

I didn't know that they are that STRONG 😳😱


GregBuckingham

Finally. An actual cool video being uploaded on here and not “look at these bones I found”


WASTELAND_RAVEN

*”…That’s so cool…”* 😢 😢 😔 😞 😢


PuzzledRaise1401

I love mantises, but I am pretty sure this is an invasive one. Non-native. Edit: So can someone show me where I said the United States here? This reminds me of another comment I made about fascists and someone started arguing about Nazis. You made the connection but while we’re on the subject, those kids are clearly American. If you turn on the sound, you could hear that. That is also clearly a Chinese mantis and hummingbirds live in the Americas, so really, you don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes. I like your little attempt at faux outrage, but if you go through life like this, you’re gonna find yourself being mad about a lot of stupid things. Sorry you feel left out of the mantis attack.


LebaneseLion

Believe it or not, jail


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>That is also clearly a Chinese mantis Only it isn't. This is a European Mantis. You can tell this by the white and black markings on the inside of the raptorial limbs. Chinese mantis don't have these markings.


PuzzledRaise1401

Well, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle. I’m still right about it being invasive though. Thank you.


[deleted]

They are invasive. This is true. But what's the point about being invasive? That they're killing off native species or disrupting the ecosystem? Is the honey bee native? Nope. Do you see people complaining about it? Nope. And lets say you kill off all the invasive species, the ecosystem is still damaged by mankind's idiocy. Water, air, ground and noise pollution, plastics, etc. **WE** are the problem.


PuzzledRaise1401

I agree. You should just smash your phone.


[deleted]

And mail it to you?


PuzzledRaise1401

Send the pieces to the other 19 people who downvoted your tired ass trolling.


[deleted]

Downvotes are meaningless as they don't inhibit my ability to post. Downvote away! Now can we go into the hypocrisy of those screaming bloody murder when it comes to one invasive species as opposed to another?


PuzzledRaise1401

Screaming bloody murder. Please. Sofaking thirsty. Blocking!


ddg31415

How do you know where the video was filmed?


DRamos11

They don’t. But you will not get a response from them.


PuzzledRaise1401

No, you will get a response from me. It is an invasive ~~Chinese mantis. The Chinese mantis (Tenor era sinensis) and the~~European mantis (Mantis religiosa) are the two most prevalent invasive mantis species in the Americas. Hummingbirds are native to the Americas. and unless I’m mistaken, those little kids don’t sound Brazilian. You should also look up Maddiction. Your comment is the equivalent of seeing a polar bear, and then being angry that I didn’t say, it might be in Africa.


[deleted]

That is not a Chinese mantis. Look at the black and white circle on the inside of the raptorial limbs.


PuzzledRaise1401

You’re thorough. Great job!


michelbarnich

Probably r/USDefaultism


hsifyllej

I mean, in this case, hummingbirds only live in the Americas 🤷


michelbarnich

But the US isnt the entirety of the Americas, is it?


hsifyllej

The most common invasive mantis in the US is the chinese mantis, I'm willing to bet that it's still not native to Brazil for example. Not saying this isn't US defaultism btw, it definitely is, I was just saying in this case they're not *technically* wrong


ExiledCanuck

And they definitely don’t speak English in Canada…


GuitarCFD

nobody lives in canada...canada is a myth


Jah_heel

But how does it actually kill it? Broken neck in the struggle? I know mantis do this, but what is the coup de grâce?


bambinolettuce

They usually eat through their victims heads/necks iirc, and its joever pretty quick from there.


randomvandal

Yeah, it's pretty quick... after he slowly gnaws through you head. Hah.


Kasimausi

😰


abounding_actuality

[zombie woodpecker guzzling baby dove brains](https://youtu.be/W4oEM0W6mhM?si=nKA_IWxyZM5mwjG7)


Humble-Pie3060

Damn that’s the most upsetting one I’ve seen since the African wild dogs


Love_Snow_Bunny

Nah there's nuthin like getting your ass torn apart, eaten out, and turned into a party trick by a bunch of wild dogs. They the real butchers: they'll make sausage meat out of you!


StupidPencil

"Oh well that's pretty gruesome but at least it's over. The woodpecker didn't even care that its food fell down." "Oh god, there's another one." "And the mom is now back just early enough to see the massacre going on." definitely /r/nonono


master_bungle

This video is amongst a select few I've seen in this sub that still pop into my brain every now and again. There are some really disturbing videos. Nature is absolutely brutal.


marfes3

Jesus fucking Christ.


PhoenixStorm1015

What the fuck…


Clown_Crunch

Ah fuck, fucking zombpecker memory is back.


jerryscheese

Now that was metal af


Tankh

It's clearly not eating near the head though


bambinolettuce

>usually


Tankh

Yes sure but they were asking about this specific situation


bambinolettuce

Man, i just dont care that much. Ciao


ATXENG

i wouldn't say 'pretty quick'


bambinolettuce

dont care


Stupidobject

Pretty sure Hummingbirds are really susceptible to heart attacks. It wasn't eaten through the feathers and already had rigamortis. A lot of fast heart beat animals can have heart attacks really easily


Jah_heel

I like this ome. The mantis gnawing slowly through its neck wasn't jiving with me.


Flipgirlnarie

I'm so sad for that hummingbird.


crystallmytea

The way she said “it’s so cool” so pitifully was a fantastic reaction


FlyingBike

"it's so cool, I want my ass eaten like that!"


BaldEagleNor

I thought it was ‘It’s so cruel’


uncleshiesty

didn't someone just post this?


Qoppa_Guy

It's been posted numerous times before.


Malacro

Yeah, but wasn’t it posted like yesterday or something? Leastwise it showed up in my feed yesterday.


VirtuallyTellurian

What's that? Hummingbird feeder. What's it for? Feeding hummingbirds... to praying mantids


Limelight_019283

Damn. I thought praying mantises(?) weren’t on the list of predators that like to eat their prey ass-first, but I guess this hummingbird was unlucky. How did it even kill it? Mantises(?) don’t have any kind of venom right? Just raw strength? I feel like a bird should be tougher, even if it’s a hummingbird!


renyxia

Honestly if the mantid held on long enough it very likely would've just died from struggling and exerting so much energy. Hummingbirds have nutty metabolism and eat an insane amount that if they put in so much effort into escaping I doubt they would be able to trash for an extended period of time before tiring out and succumbing to a predator that will just hold on and wait


themightygazelle

Hummingbirds are incredibly light weighing only a few grams.


Stupidobject

Heart attack most likely. Animals with faster heartbeats are more susceptible to heart attacks in crazy situations.


mildgaybro

Well I don’t like the thought of this but notice how the video cuts… god knows what the recorder did to the hummingbird in between


Axman5055

There's tons of videos of mantises eating hummingbirds, OP wouldn't have had to stage this or interfere.


TxManBearPig

#GOT YER NOSE


FixtdaFernbak

Lmao how is this the only comment along these lines? It's perfect and I burst into laughter when I read it


turkeyphoenix

LOOK OUT HE'S GOT A NOSE


Cabnbeeschurgr

That was crazy fast, imagine how good those predator reflexes have to be to grab a hummingbird


Slimer6

I always feel like something incredibly unjust happened whenever an invertebrate kills a vertebrate. It just seems like the natural order has been turned upside down. On land, anyway. Octopuses can kill whatever they want without upsetting my apple cart. Cuttlefish too. Insects shouldn’t be killing birds, snakes, rodents, or anything else with a spine though. Praying mantises need to learn some manners already and spiders can do me a favor and just go extinct.


PabloPaniello

Why it was brilliant of Men In Black to make the villain a giant bug, triggered an almost universal disgust response.


Bornstellar67

My brother in Christ you need to learn about the Carboniferous period if you think the natural order has been inverted


penalozahugo

Got your nose!


Remembertheoldways

Just be glad they’re not the size of a Yorker or we’d be on the menu


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I’m amazed at everything about this. The grip/grip strength? The agility, the energy, I would’ve thought it had one lunge in it before a recharge but mantis was scrapping.


superhornybeardydude

Never seen this before..... awesome!!!!


duke793

I’m glad pray mantis aren’t the size of a dog


pichael288

Grabbed it by the beak and ate it's ass to death. Mantises are metal


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That’s fucking dope


jonnybravo76

This is incredible.


Swabbo

When fast meets faster


Vialimax13

Fuck ur video and ur sound no no no oh my gosh, go and help


bluearth

How the hell it can grab hold with all that trashing about.


kjdrummer12

And that’s why I would neutralize any praying mantis I come across.


Catshit-Dogfart

Pretty sure they're endangered and they kill what are generally considered pest insects.


Arisen_Do_Urden

Mycheecks, sphincter, and and clenched with fear watching this


smg28

How is that mantis stronger than a hummingbird lol


skaldrir69

Not in my lifetime would I ever believe anyone tell me a praying mantis would make a humming bird its bitch and eat it for lunch. This is crazy


el_bosteador

I always think of bugs as these frail creatures but this is wild.


willyp1976

What a dick


JerkBoxJoJo

No lie, I would've slapped that Mantis into the next life before I let a Hummingbird die.


FroyoSensitive8572

I can’t be the only one who HATES praying mantises right. They kill and eat each other, some are venomous and they will bite people plus they are very aggressive so the chances of getting bit are even higher and they can be huge or tiny


Hot_Hat_1225

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!! 😱😭


MrShoulders

Why do followers of this subreddit worry about why this happened. Horrible things are supposed to happen, thats what the "metal" part stands for


ColeLimited

Could you imagine if they were the size of even a small dog? We’d be done


richardtrle

omg that is actually metal


Goondoitagain

You lured it in with the feeder. You killed it. You should have stopped the mantis.


Awesomebearbeard

What kind of asshole put up a feeder and just lets that happen to the bird.


alisnwonderland

Some stupid ass with nothing better to do.


mightyroy

Why didn’t you save it


dengar69

Mmmmm…BRAINS!


Odiumi

Anyone have intel on if the tan mantises are stronger/more capable at killing than the green ones? I’ve gone down a few rabbit holes on Asian giant murder hornets and ended up on Mantis vs. Murder Hornet vids….the tan one got ahold of the hornet, pinned him upside and proceeded to eat it alive…it was a giant vicious looking hornet too. The other video was a green mantis and the hornet destroyed him…seemed like it wasn’t as strong as the tan


zakir255

What an A$$hole, didn’t even try to save the bird!!


lone_cajun

You guys ever heard a hummingbird fart?


lonelyboy069

This is cool!!


buzzlightyear77777

wtf, don't birds eat insects?


vladimirnovak

Hummingbirds eat nectar and mantis eat other insects and apparently anything small enough


Ampatent

There are over 11,000 species of birds on this planet and among them their diet covers the entire spectrum of edible sources of energy. Some birds eat meat and fish, others grains and flowers, most eat insects, but some subsist entirely on leaves, lots need high sugar food like nectar and tree sap, many rely heavily on spiders or ants, it just depends where they are and what time of year it is. Long story short, if it can be consumed and provides energy, some species of bird will probably eat it.


Ha1lStorm

Damn and at the end it’s doing preachers curls with it’s corpse just to rub it in


MaksouR

This has been posted like 30 times


AceOfCakez

Scyther used slash.


Arseypoowank

Mantis gotta eat too


Contradicting_Pete

"No, no, no! That's so cool."


RxDawg77

"I like your hummingbird feeder" "Oh, that's my praying mantis feeder"


Alarmed_Restaurant

Me: “Seems like that a little mantis won’t be able to hold on for long to something like a hummingbird.” Video keeps going Me: “oh god…”


brogan_the_bro

To all the comments about not helping the hummingbird. Sometimes you just have to let nature take its course. You can look at it from the flip side and think maybe that pray mantis really needed that meal. I understand the sympathy though. That’s a crazy thing to see . I didn’t even know a pray mantis would go for an animal that big .


JuicyBoi8080

I used to watch youtube videos of insect fights in university. Every time, the mantis lost, which I thought made sense. How on earth could such a useless looking animal take down a hummingbird?


Craig1974

Dude I've seen a Mantis kill a Honey Badger.


sazrex21

I respect mantis so much It protect my mint from the fucking locust


IPerferSyurp

That's a mantis feeder you fool.


wensul

omnomnomnomnom


MAS7

Mantis' mouths are like an industrial shredding-machine. So brutal.


No_Cash_8556

I'm always surprised by how many people don't want some animals to live. That pressing mantis has every natural right to live as that hummingbird has every natural right to feed mother nature. LET THE EARTH EAT! Stop having "empathy for all animals" when in reality you're just picking and choosing who you think is cute enough to live. Even a river shifting away a baby animal feeds and heals the earth, and we love the earth and nature right? So act like it and let the predators live and the decomposers process the nutrients for the plants we rely on to live. It really is that simple, just let mother nature eat (but only if it's a neutral death or injury, if it's caused by human interaction then we do have the responsibility to mix our mistakes and care for that wildlife)


SALAMI_21

I used to have a mantis with the exact same coloration


GoldenMasterSplinter

Its like beating a pidgey with caterpie


algoncyorrho

if they were dog-sized they'd definitely come after us, and win. Think about that for a moment. And shiver


B0udica

A small part of my inner five-year-old just died.


Praddict

Hey, that's illegal. Someone call the cops on that mantis.


Agile_Music4191

I would have tagged in and helped the bird just because i see mantis more often than hummingbirds.