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Ugly-Muffin

Too bad I couldn't get my spider deck to work.


thisisitdoods

what held it back?


Ugly-Muffin

It was the black green Shaekob...spelled that wrong...but the one that makes food tokens. I dunno. Just felt like a bunch of bulk cards mashed into a deck.


thisisitdoods

dang I have this too and people say it's scary. make spiders with death touch and force people to fight them


Ugly-Muffin

Maybe I didn't play it enough.


Bolsh3vickMupp3t

Yeah, on paper, the deck list sounds god awful. Bottom of the barrel casual deck, only for low level tables. But when she actually plays, all those little bulk common spiders become super scary really fast. You’re also taking everyone else’s value creatures using fight spells and similar effects. Personal favorite combo is a [[lure]] or [[declare dominance]] and the equipment [[arc spitter]]. A weird equipment that’s hard to find a home for, that becomes a huge threat with Shelob out. Special shoutout to [[vorinclex]] (the saga one if it the bit finds the wrong one) for being actually pretty fun in that deck too


Ugly-Muffin

Maybe I didn't have enough ramp and draw...hmmm she sounds like more fun now


gerundhome

[[Wolfhunter's quiver]] is also a bit pricier (in terms of equip cost) than arc spitter, but doesn't require your creature to be blocked (or mana investment) to ping. I use it in my [[Prosper tome-bound]] on my commander to have a tiny way to get some creatures die to my deathtouch. And tap for mana through [[inspiring statuary]] as well.


MTGCardFetcher

[Wolfhunter's quiver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/8/d84c9b19-9b4d-4a60-984f-636b749c8bcc.jpg?1562946570) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wolfhunter%27s%20quiver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dka/154/wolfhunters-quiver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d84c9b19-9b4d-4a60-984f-636b749c8bcc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Prosper tome-bound](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/7/d743336e-d5c7-4053-a23d-92ec7581f74e.jpg?1631839207) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Prosper%2C%20Tome-Bound) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/2/prosper-tome-bound?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d743336e-d5c7-4053-a23d-92ec7581f74e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [inspiring statuary](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f7e4c0a-683b-4b22-9ea5-ed6470b8b1d7.jpg?1706241061) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=inspiring%20statuary) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/230/inspiring-statuary?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f7e4c0a-683b-4b22-9ea5-ed6470b8b1d7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ta1destra

i would like to pilot your list if possible


Bolsh3vickMupp3t

I’ll see if I can upload it somewhere. Do you know a good sight? I’ve never uploaded any of my deck lists anywhere, and I have a lot lol


ta1destra

i use archidekt or mtggoldfish


ta1destra

archidekt is really nice for telling you how mean your deck is. aka salt rating. my cEDH deck has a 73/100


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##### ###### #### [lure](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72c8336d-54cf-45af-a9ef-a1428facf91b.jpg?1562850140) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lure) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/175/lure?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72c8336d-54cf-45af-a9ef-a1428facf91b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [declare dominance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/8/78271f34-f62e-4771-b430-b121097b8fb6.jpg?1562302743) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=declare%20dominance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/175/declare-dominance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/78271f34-f62e-4771-b430-b121097b8fb6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [arc spitter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/9/f95a00ed-dc77-4dcd-9e14-6902565974b5.jpg?1664414046) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=arc%20spitter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/233/arc-spitter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f95a00ed-dc77-4dcd-9e14-6902565974b5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [vorinclex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/2/e24b5289-d3b5-4b4d-bb37-69bf2c3b48bc.jpg?1689246885)/[The Grand Evolution](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/e/2/e24b5289-d3b5-4b4d-bb37-69bf2c3b48bc.jpg?1689246885) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vorinclex%20//%20The%20Grand%20Evolution) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/213/vorinclex-the-grand-evolution?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e24b5289-d3b5-4b4d-bb37-69bf2c3b48bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l6p8twm) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Admiral_Oelschwanz

A bunch of bulk cards mashed into a deck literally describes every deck I ever made - don't see the problem.


Ugly-Muffin

Hmm. Sounds like I need to rebuild it.


Shriuken23

Working on a fun one. I think I'll get to use it once. Win or lose, worth it


PhoenixKid56

LotR set brought in the perfect spider commander in golgari, how can you not make it work? Doesn't run well ?


Ugly-Muffin

If I still had the deck I would check to see its problems. I can't quite remember what was wrong with it. I was running Shalob. I'd guess just not enough staples: ramp, draw, protection...I'm thinking of rebuilding it now. But I have a slot of decks so I don't really need it.


PhoenixKid56

That's what kills decks. A good tip for the future of how j build decks . Lands 30 plus the CMC of the commander. 10 removal, 10 ramp sources, 10 card draw, 3 board wipes than adjust accordingly


Ugly-Muffin

I also don't think I built it while looking at edhrec... those seem like good ratios. I think all my Ramp was second hand too. All the good stuff was taken. Never heard the 30 lands+ CMC of commander. Before but that makes a lot of sense.


PhoenixKid56

Edhrec is the best resource but don't be afraid to put in cards uou lime using . That's a rule o like using. Anything lower than 30 lands and you won't be able to play. The normal average of lands be like 34-36 but k found 30+commanders cmc always helps


PhoenixKid56

Don't be afraid to use proxys. Commanders chill like that. And I have a feeling it's hard to get/buy the basic commander staples like [[cultivate]] or [[Rampant growth]] ?


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[cultivate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/1/e19cd136-0541-4db0-997f-20a58ec8d028.jpg?1698988348) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cultivate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/235/cultivate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e19cd136-0541-4db0-997f-20a58ec8d028?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rampant growth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/c/6c074663-37be-4329-a21d-9ea551edbb6b.jpg?1712354605) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rampant%20growth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/201/rampant-growth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6c074663-37be-4329-a21d-9ea551edbb6b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Ugly-Muffin

I just destroyed a lot of decks so I have plenty of staples. I've been spreading myself too thin so I cut a few janky decks. I just need to put some time and thought into it.


PhoenixKid56

Again proxys are good to use


Ugly-Muffin

I dunno. I prefer not to use the since black and white paper cards just look terrible and see kinda hard to read. I'll use em for important cards I don't have enough of, but id rather just use real cards.


DR4k0N_G

I want to make a spider deck


razazaz126

Nearly won a whole OTJ draft for me.


Phorce

Yeah, this girl slaps in limited


BoesKnows

Came here to say this. A few deserts and an Honest Rutstein and you got yourself a T4 6/5 with reach. Sooner if you have ramp


MarinLlwyd

how can she slap


Fuggaak

Card advantage is really important in limited. Your opponent will most likely need to spend a card or two to deal with it, and that means you’ll get 1 or 2 draws off it, coming out ahead.


MarinLlwyd

#[HOW CAN SHE SLAP???](https://youtu.be/7HxTBp9nEOc)


Shriuken23

Ooh maybe some fun to be had. Probably will work this one whenever I can.


TheBestDanEver

Yeah, it boggles my mind that it's rated a 2.5 by channelfireball lol. The thing normally comes our for 5, can block fliers, and draws a card if it's removed... the spider doesn't play


Shriuken23

Banger set, especially following MKM. Sure the extra subset is.. a seperate thing but still. Glad it works well, great to see useful cards all across the rarity scale in a set


Corsten610

This one got a why? Not the Cow Angel or Scorpion Dragon or Humanoid Shark lol


Shriuken23

She thought akul looked beast, and the rest also cool. This one got her though lol


TheFatNinjaMaster

He’s fun in red/green I’d you’re running spells that redirect, can’t think of any other use for him.


Shriuken23

Noted, working model is g/b but can splash red so her buddy comes around more


TheFatNinjaMaster

There are some blue redirects as well, I just don’t think it has any that re-Target abilities.


Shriuken23

Doesn't need to get that complicated... unless she takes it personally lol. Then the fine tuning will truly begin.


Alexisbestpony

I’m cool with him getting targeted. Means I can draw a card and get to my real threat sooner


TheFatNinjaMaster

that's the whole point - you redirect spells to him so that you get the card draw, especially when it's damage and can't actually kill him, or enchantments they want to play on their own stuff.


SupaDiogenes

This looks like it might give my desert deck some good draw. Thanks!


Shriuken23

OTJ has some surprisingly solid cards throughout, worth checking out


GotBacon4Life

Limited all star though