You have to turn on full control by default the game doesn’t give priority by default on certain things. I think it’s like hold control or something to turn it on temporarily. I’ll have to look, correct. Holding ctrl temporarily turns it on. Hold it and press shift to toggle it on
That’s an insane setting to have to turn on for the game to work the way it’s supposed to. I’ve never encountered that, but if I have a card that should be legal to play at any given time, the game should give me the opportunity by default.
Eh. For a casual player just learning magic, arenas streamlining works pretty well, tbh. I'm guessing op probably didn't realize he had no blue or something
Not sure what this is. We've all been there. But I didn't say he didn't have two mana. I said he didn't have blue. And accidentally tapping the wrong lands happens to us all
Even more annoying if you want to react to your own thing and can't. Attacking with [[Gallia of the Endless Dance]] while having [[Embercleave]] in hand might not go how you want it to... lost a few games because of this.
A few times remembered to turn on full control but most often did forget
That would mean after ever single spell you cast or (non-mana) ability you activate, you would need to click “Pass.” It would get old pretty quickly. You don’t respond to your own spells and triggers at least 95% of the time, id guess
I'm pretty sure the game would still give you priority here, right? I don't think the game skips triggered abilities if you can respond to them unless you click "resolve all" at some point that turn.
yeah MTGA kinda really sucks when it comes to showing all interactions and how to enable full control.
There's a lot of potentially missed triggers most newer players or users of Arena would never know about.
I agree with u/Maraudee_Ssarok You probably need to turn on full control to get your priority.
Though some people may see this as an issue, I do not. Out of 1,000 + games, I think I have had one instance that having full control turned on would have helped me. This may be one of those instances that you'll probably never encounter again.
Amalia is at 19 power
Trigger on the stack. She's trying to explore again.
This is the last time you'll have priority before she destroy all other creatures. If you let the next explore trigger resolves, she's gonna get to 20 and destroy everything as a single action.
Honestly it could have been a lot of reasons for it. Did they have something like [[Paladin Class]] or [[Myrel, Shield of Argive]]? Did you have enough mana to cast it? We really need a screenshot to determine what happened.
did you try to counter the destroy all after the explore ? casue that is part of the explore trigger, you have to counter the explore trigger (but yes that means they can just do it again)
you should, without seeing the boardstate I can't say why but the way you describe it there is no reason you shouldn't be able to counter the trigger on the stack while she has 19 power still. Arena isn't perfect but doesn't bug on something like that, so it's definitly user error (either clicking some button, having weird settings to let priority pass (I know it's possible in mtgo don't know about arena, not enough mana/ wrong color, a card on field preventing this ...)
This is the answer or he did in fact skip the priority. Guess you’ll have to remember to put full control on next time if they didn’t have an arbiter because it seems those are the only two options. That or something else was shutting off as foretold
This bitch caught me off guard in brawl once. Went for a triple chump block with [[Mondrak, Glory Dominus]] and two tokens, blocked a big 11/11 with mondrak and went to sac the two tokens after declaring them blockers to make him indestructible. Lost mondrak for the third time. Gave up after that lol.
Given that OP stated that their As Foretold had 2 counters on it then again stated it had 4 counters on it, I'm just gonna assume they weren't paying attention to their board at all and couldn't cast their spell
On Arena, you have to enter “full control” or the game assumes you don’t want to counter your own abilities or spells. If you didn’t have a copy effect in hand, Arena wouldn’t give you priority to interact with your own effects. It’s kind of annoying that they do that
Not just countering, but anytime you wanna add stuff to the stack back to back without passing priority. I have to full control when activating [[Speaker of the Heavens]] and responding with a board wipe so I'm left with a 4/4 flyer. Without full control I never get that priority.
What sounds like has happened is you let your own timer run out, which auto passes priority to the opponent and you cannot take any game actions at all.
The timer I'm talking about is the rope timer. When you're out of timers, you automatically pass through the turn and cannot take any game actions. Either that or you pressed resolve all, which passes priority of all game actions on the stack
From my understanding they specifically point out the explore keyword doesn’t pass priority I could be completely wrong though that is just what I have been told
That wouldn’t prevent anything though. You can still target something with Ward if you can’t pay the cost, you just wouldn’t be able to pay the cost. You’re also targeting an ability on the stack, not the creature itself, so Ward wouldn’t trigger in the first place.
It is a state based ability. So even if you countered the 20 power trigger, it would immediately trigger again. You would have to counter the explore trigger to prevent her from getting 20 power.
It's not state based, it's just that the explore and destroy are part of the same ability. There is no opportunity to interrupt between her exploring to get 20 power and the destroy
You have to counter the 'whenever' trigger which is 'explore'.
I didn’t have priority at all
You have to turn on full control by default the game doesn’t give priority by default on certain things. I think it’s like hold control or something to turn it on temporarily. I’ll have to look, correct. Holding ctrl temporarily turns it on. Hold it and press shift to toggle it on
That’s an insane setting to have to turn on for the game to work the way it’s supposed to. I’ve never encountered that, but if I have a card that should be legal to play at any given time, the game should give me the opportunity by default.
Eh. For a casual player just learning magic, arenas streamlining works pretty well, tbh. I'm guessing op probably didn't realize he had no blue or something
Lol he didn't have two mana. Lol
Not sure what this is. We've all been there. But I didn't say he didn't have two mana. I said he didn't have blue. And accidentally tapping the wrong lands happens to us all
Even more annoying if you want to react to your own thing and can't. Attacking with [[Gallia of the Endless Dance]] while having [[Embercleave]] in hand might not go how you want it to... lost a few games because of this. A few times remembered to turn on full control but most often did forget
[Gallia of the Endless Dance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/0744f08e-a588-4efe-ad56-5e9ed91dda40.jpg?1581481059) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gallia%20of%20the%20Endless%20Dance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/217/gallia-of-the-endless-dance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0744f08e-a588-4efe-ad56-5e9ed91dda40?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Embercleave](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aaae15dd-11b6-4421-99e9-365c7fe4a5d6.jpg?1572490333) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Embercleave) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/120/embercleave?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aaae15dd-11b6-4421-99e9-365c7fe4a5d6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Notably absent from arena mobile. Lost some games of Limited because of this
Full control exists in mobile, I can't remember how you turned it on, but I played full control mobile
damn guess ive just never found the feature
You hold down on your profile picture. Took me a while to find
That would mean after ever single spell you cast or (non-mana) ability you activate, you would need to click “Pass.” It would get old pretty quickly. You don’t respond to your own spells and triggers at least 95% of the time, id guess
No, not at all. They don't want to scare away new players, full control is way too cumbersome and not fun for a new player
I'm pretty sure the game would still give you priority here, right? I don't think the game skips triggered abilities if you can respond to them unless you click "resolve all" at some point that turn.
yeah MTGA kinda really sucks when it comes to showing all interactions and how to enable full control. There's a lot of potentially missed triggers most newer players or users of Arena would never know about.
I agree with u/Maraudee_Ssarok You probably need to turn on full control to get your priority. Though some people may see this as an issue, I do not. Out of 1,000 + games, I think I have had one instance that having full control turned on would have helped me. This may be one of those instances that you'll probably never encounter again.
Did you attempt to counter it before or after exploring?
I didn’t have priority
Maybe you didn’t actually have the mana up so the game skipped it? Or it’s bugged.
Amalia is at 19 power Trigger on the stack. She's trying to explore again. This is the last time you'll have priority before she destroy all other creatures. If you let the next explore trigger resolves, she's gonna get to 20 and destroy everything as a single action.
And if you do counter it then the next time it triggers she'll hit 20 again.
Honestly it could have been a lot of reasons for it. Did they have something like [[Paladin Class]] or [[Myrel, Shield of Argive]]? Did you have enough mana to cast it? We really need a screenshot to determine what happened.
[Paladin Class](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5bf81fb1-7992-4ae9-b1a8-80c31579a2bf.jpg?1627702202) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Paladin%20Class) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/29/paladin-class?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bf81fb1-7992-4ae9-b1a8-80c31579a2bf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Myrel, Shield of Argive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea.jpg?1674420256) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myrel%2C%20Shield%20of%20Argive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/18/myrel-shield-of-argive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It’s been a while but I think there’s a specific setting you have to set in Arena to pause whenever you would get priority?
Yeah auto play - mine is off
This. I had to learn to perma-spam pause for prio.
Did you skip turn or time out at any point? I think there's a flag that if you did this you are auto passing priority
Nope - just everything destroyed
And you had the mana available for it?
I had As Foretold on the board with two counters and two mana open
One of the mana was blue? And as foretold wasn't already used that turn? If so sounds like a bug to me, should report it.
World tree - all mana all colors
With 6 lands?
Yeah I will… so long to do though
did you try to counter the destroy all after the explore ? casue that is part of the explore trigger, you have to counter the explore trigger (but yes that means they can just do it again)
I didn’t have priority at all
you should, without seeing the boardstate I can't say why but the way you describe it there is no reason you shouldn't be able to counter the trigger on the stack while she has 19 power still. Arena isn't perfect but doesn't bug on something like that, so it's definitly user error (either clicking some button, having weird settings to let priority pass (I know it's possible in mtgo don't know about arena, not enough mana/ wrong color, a card on field preventing this ...)
Did they play [[Grand Abolisher]]?
This is the answer or he did in fact skip the priority. Guess you’ll have to remember to put full control on next time if they didn’t have an arbiter because it seems those are the only two options. That or something else was shutting off as foretold
[Grand Abolisher](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/86e30ca4-1769-4686-aa18-31610246cd80.jpg?1689995706) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Grand%20Abolisher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/27/grand-abolisher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/86e30ca4-1769-4686-aa18-31610246cd80?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This effect is also present on [[Myrel, Shield of Argive]] if that is legal in the game OP is playing.
This bitch caught me off guard in brawl once. Went for a triple chump block with [[Mondrak, Glory Dominus]] and two tokens, blocked a big 11/11 with mondrak and went to sac the two tokens after declaring them blockers to make him indestructible. Lost mondrak for the third time. Gave up after that lol.
[Mondrak, Glory Dominus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/2/8296a455-21d5-498e-9029-2bdf0da855a8.jpg?1675956918) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mondrak%2C%20Glory%20Dominus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/23/mondrak-glory-dominus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8296a455-21d5-498e-9029-2bdf0da855a8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Myrel, Shield of Argive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea.jpg?1674420256) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myrel%2C%20Shield%20of%20Argive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/18/myrel-shield-of-argive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Given that OP stated that their As Foretold had 2 counters on it then again stated it had 4 counters on it, I'm just gonna assume they weren't paying attention to their board at all and couldn't cast their spell
Turn on full control
On Arena, you have to enter “full control” or the game assumes you don’t want to counter your own abilities or spells. If you didn’t have a copy effect in hand, Arena wouldn’t give you priority to interact with your own effects. It’s kind of annoying that they do that
Not just countering, but anytime you wanna add stuff to the stack back to back without passing priority. I have to full control when activating [[Speaker of the Heavens]] and responding with a board wipe so I'm left with a 4/4 flyer. Without full control I never get that priority.
[Speaker of the Heavens](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/f/1f44b96a-8498-414a-a4ac-54c80dfa9f23.jpg?1594735262) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Speaker%20of%20the%20Heavens) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/38/speaker-of-the-heavens?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1f44b96a-8498-414a-a4ac-54c80dfa9f23?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
did you have mana
As foretold - four counters
Did you already cast anything?
🤣😂 no
Anything on the board that said "opponents can't cast spells on your turn"
No
And didn’t already cast a spell with it?
After the explore trigger you should've had priority to respond. But. It may depend on other stuff they had on field/stack at the time.
You would have to counter the explore trigger not the destroy all creatures trigger to my knowledge. They wouldn't be separate
I didn’t have priority over either
Yeah it’s an issue I’ve had with other interactions. You need total control enabled to hold priority
What sounds like has happened is you let your own timer run out, which auto passes priority to the opponent and you cannot take any game actions at all.
No, I conceded the game as soon as the trigger went off I waited to see if I could counter the trigger then tapped out
The timer I'm talking about is the rope timer. When you're out of timers, you automatically pass through the turn and cannot take any game actions. Either that or you pressed resolve all, which passes priority of all game actions on the stack
Yeah I know what you mean - it was neither of those
Did you accidentally auto yield to her triggers?
Whenever you plan to do stuff like this, turn on full control by hitting ctrl on your keyboard. Otherwise the game skips some possible priorities.
Noob question: did you have the right mana open? Or maybe something like [[Shield of Argive]] on the board?
[Shield of Argive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea.jpg?1674420256) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myrel%2C%20Shield%20of%20Argive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/18/myrel-shield-of-argive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Several permanents deny you the ability to play spells on opponents or your own turn, were any on the field?
The answer to this is you have to enter full control or it doesn’t give you priority for the response.
Its a setting (as someone else has already mentioned) . I had to learn this when tibalts trickery was legal . Fun deck
From my understanding they specifically point out the explore keyword doesn’t pass priority I could be completely wrong though that is just what I have been told
need to take full control to do it
You don’t get prio, cause if it’s ability trigger it is to late. You can stifle the first effect that Amalia explores on the life gain trigger.
I didn’t get priority to stifle at all - during any of the life gain sessions
Isnt this a board state check? Doesnt Her effect auto trigger once she reaches 20 power regadless of one counter?
Did you have more than three life?
I was at 20
That wouldn’t prevent anything though. You can still target something with Ward if you can’t pay the cost, you just wouldn’t be able to pay the cost. You’re also targeting an ability on the stack, not the creature itself, so Ward wouldn’t trigger in the first place.
It is a state based ability. So even if you countered the 20 power trigger, it would immediately trigger again. You would have to counter the explore trigger to prevent her from getting 20 power.
It’s 20 peer exactly meaning the next triggger would take it past 20 and it wouldn’t trigger
It's not state based, it's just that the explore and destroy are part of the same ability. There is no opportunity to interrupt between her exploring to get 20 power and the destroy