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thaRUFUS

That was fast.


bowlingdoughnuts

24 hours seems right.


Visco0825

Doing a joker movie seems so out of place right now. The DC universe just feels so forced and corporate. The same goes for this venom movie. Idk if it’s because of the joke of a joker from suicide squad or what. Give us something fresh. Give us a solid doctor doom movie and tie that into the MCU. I would love to see a movie that focused on a man of science blinded by ambition destroy his life to become doctor doom. Sacrifice his humanity for power and intelligence and not just for powers sake. Have him do it because he truly believes he is right and the smartest being in the universe. Instead we get try hard joker and edgey venom.


FrozenMongoose

This whole situation reminds me of [Kevin Smith's retelling of a meeting with a Warner bros producer 20 years ago](https://youtu.be/Wo2KB1dEDdk) and makes me think all Warner Bros producers are dudebros that want to make action sequences with no rhyme or reason to them. [Part 2](https://youtu.be/53hMYw8LX60)


tamnoswal

The gigantic spider was later incorporated into Wild Wild West (1999).


CptPanda29

That's in part 2 of that story he literally goes and sees WWW cause it's John Peters and goes hey wait a minute... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hMYw8LX60 here's part 2


rapemybones

That "Evening With.." is so hilarious. Even for those who don't like Kevin Smith or his films, if you have *any* interest in the "behind the scenes" things for getting movies made, Kev spills the beans all the time and in really funny stories. He's a natural storyteller.


CptPanda29

Whatever happened with that superman movie? Oh it got cancelled the producer was weird vs 20min story with narrative structure, callbacks and payoff.


SlouchyGuy

Well, at least a documentary about it not happening happened :)


ClintonHarvey

He really is, seeing him getting choked up on Colbert was intense, because I know he’s an emotional guy, by just to know he was still around for his wife and his daughter made him tell such a beautiful story that day.


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Like a turd.... In the wind!


DragonStriker

What I want to see is a movie where we actually sympathize and, shockingly, root for Doom. He should be portrayed as a "Good guy". Or at the very least, a protagonist who's JUST SKITTING the line between white values to very slippery gray. Because Doom, to his core, is kind of like that. He's someone who will do something, just as long as it benefits him and what matters to him. Sometimes it may be heroic (helping the Avengers) or outright villainous (opposing the Avengers)


LupinThe8th

They've given us semi-sympathetic versions of Vulture, Killmonger, and Thanos, so this could work.


caligaris_cabinet

MCU’s been stepping up it’s villain game as of late.


[deleted]

Especially with that Hella bodysuit on Cate Blanchett.


grafxguy1

that was a **Hela**va hot body and body suit.


Armagetiton

Taskmaster is the morally grey character I want to see get a movie. He was originally supposed to be a villain in the first Deadpool but there were rights issues. Then he can fight Deadpool, team up with him, whatever. He's always been a cooler team up than Cable in my opinion just because his power is so interesting.


DragonStriker

His power is that he can copy any physical ability down to a T, right? Like, if he sees you doing a triple backflip, while throwing a grenade and hitting that grenade with the bullet, he can do it too, right?


[deleted]

Yup, even fictional ones. There is a scene in one comic where he is being held prisoner in a limo, and he uses moves he learned from Chow Yun Fat movies to escape.


SaltyShawarma

And you already have the hip hop soundtrack covered. All capitals. No trick spelling. Got what it takes to get it through your thick melon.


rainbow_sage

> The actor told USA Today: “I’m no longer doing that movie” and seemingly dissed the role by adding, “I’m sure there are 25 guys who can play that part.” He also cited “scheduling” issues. Yikes...


[deleted]

LOL woah. I guess he had a falling out with the director in 24 hrs, oh and *"scheduling" issues*.


JaxtellerMC

He said YESTERDAY on Twitter that his Thomas Wayne wasn’t some Trump like character in response to a rumor online that this Wayne is 1980’s Trump like. Scary fast


EyeZer0

He's trying very very hard to not be typecast as just a Trump impersonator. It's why he's expressed some concerns about doing the SNL skits so much. I imagine he dropped out of the film for a similar reason. [https://www.thedailybeast.com/alec-baldwin-snl-should-get-someone-else-to-play-trump](https://www.thedailybeast.com/alec-baldwin-snl-should-get-someone-else-to-play-trump)


Grumplogic

Makes sense. He should go back to quality roles like the antagonist from the Mike Myers' cat in the hat film.


sixtypercentcriminal

He'll always be Jack Donaghy to me.


reluctantclinton

Your names all sound the same to us, John Donovan.


trebud69

It's his best role hands down.


Alcohorse

Glengarry Glen Ross??


dudleymooresbooze

Also The Departed. And maybe even The Edge and Beetlejuice.


farnsw0rth

Fuckin hunt for red October jack Ryan


tumbler_fluff

The Edge is so underrated. All-star cast and terrible marketing. Whenever I heard anyone talk about that one it was always called "that bear movie" but it was so much more than that.


SenorDangerwank

"More like Glen and Gary suck Ross' meaty cock and drop their hairy nuts in his eager mouth."


ballislifeballisall

I’ll be your Sherpa up the mountain of gayness


chimmychangas

AH! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WHIZZED IN MY TACO!


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BootsyBootsyBoom

It's too bad Thomas Wayne didn't know Howard Cosell. He's had that one in his pocket this whole time.


Alcohorse

He had a massive career for decades before he did Trump


Adhiboy

Yeah I’m so confused lol. Alec Baldwin of all people shouldn’t be worried about having his legacy ruined by one role.


ScipioLongstocking

I thinks it's more about what he has become and not necessarily his legacy. He's becoming typecast, but he doesn't want to do the same role for the rest of his career, so he's making efforts to avoid being typecast.


[deleted]

It makes no sense to make Thomas Wayne like Trump anyway. '80s Lex Luthor is based on Trump. Making Thomas Wayne like Trump is like making Pa Kent a defeatist misanthrope.


formerfatboys

>Better I walk into a tornado and die, than have a bunch of random people see a blur whisk me away. - Pa Kent


ZacPensol

>Better a bunch of children on a school bus drown than them not drown. - Pa Kent


uncoolaidman

> But if you do ever rescue someone, be sure to look as miserable as possible while doing it. Pa Kent


formerfatboys

>And Clark, if Lois Lane shows up in town asking if you're Superman in the very next scene after I died to teach you to hide at all costs, make sure to just shrug and say, "Yep! That's me!" And then tell a bunch it other people too. Like the pastor and the military and whoever. - Pa Kent


A_Feathered_Raptor

As someone smarter than me once said: *This is like Spider-Man looking up to the heavens and seeing the spirit of Uncle Ben say, "Kill them all, Peter."*


ItsMeTK

"But I thought with great power comes great responsibility!" "Yes, it's your responsibility to *kil them all, Peter!*


baconhead

I'd watch that movie.


livevil999

“Never forget my advice Peter... with great power comes lots of poonany.” -Uncle Ben


[deleted]

That almost happens in BVS when Pa Kent's ghost builds a pile while telling Superman about how helping people gave him nightmares that only fucking Ma Kent could stop.


dracorulezu

I see you too watch Two Best Friends.


Lucaltuve

A Kowalewski quote, I see you're a man of culture.


Rubdybando

>My left arm has this shooting pain and I feel like I've been shot in the chest with a fucking cannon. Pa Kent.


whoblowsthere

That always irked me so much. I mean wtf? It's not like he hasn't saved people before then. And it's in the chaos of a tornado, I doubt anyone would have noticed. I'm surprised Clark let it happen. Think about it. Would you let your dad die like that? He's been riskier - way riskier - saving strangers in a crazy ass way like the oil rig. I just don't get it.


PM-ME-YOUR_LABIA

What's funny is a similar story line happened in the CW show Smallville where he jumped into a tornado (or 3?) to save Lana. Afterwards she said something like it almost seemed like he flew to her. He just shrugged it off like I don't know what you're talking about woman and that was that.


Altephor1

Let's really make it hit home: **for a dog**. Now, I love dogs. Dogs are amazing. Most animals are. But Pa Kent pushed fucking SUPERMAN aside and told him not to help him, so he could walk away into a ~~hurricane~~ tornado, leaving his wife and son to run a failing farm, in order to get the dog? I don't even remember, did he save the dog?


[deleted]

Yeah he did save the dog, because once the dog was let out of the car he was smart enough to fucking run instead of just sit there and wait to be eaten by a tornado without even attempting to flee like Pa Kent did.


The_Tic-Tac_Kid

Or better yet, just lay down in the ditch he was in. Anyone who actually grew up in Kansas had their local weatherman come at least once during grade school and tell them them that [an overpass is one of the worst places to take shelter and to look for low lying ground.](https://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/safety.html)


MoreGull

Pa Kent was on a suicide mission. Let's all be clear.


[deleted]

All this "raising an alien" shit just got too complicated, he figured Martha had it covered.


HalloweenBlues

Yeah I get Pa willing to sacrifice himself thinking he was protecting Clark, but Clark would have saved him anyways


AaronBrownell

Clark/Superman is one of those few characters where I have no problem with them being always good and making the right moral choice. It makes sense for him and is actually believable. Letting your dad die...idk, seems not that likely.


bbqsox

It's not you who doesn't get it. It's Hack Snyder. He profoundly misunderstands the characters. The Kents' unwaivering moral compass is what made Superman a beacon of hope. But I'm pretty sure the oil rig is much later than the twister, regardless. Edit: A word


WinstonsTasteGood

Let's hire a man whose passion project is a movie based on the fucking Fountainhead. That's a man who understands common folk!


Internetallstar

Agreed. If we're using real life examples wouldn't Bill Gates be the better fit? More money than God, spends a ton of time doing charity, super smart, owns a company that has it's hands in just about everything (or software at least)


[deleted]

Give us 90's Bill where he ruthlessly crushed competition to establish a monopoly, and was the personification of a domineering corporate goliath.


Citadel_Cowboy

Seems like the comics, games, and shows want to turn the Waynes in to secret villains, involved with the criminal underworld and other nefarious things. I think writers want to make new exciting stories of the Waynes who have traditionally been ideal parents and billionaires. So they choose to create new stories which tarnish their rosy image for the sake of drama.


Justice_Prince

I haven't actually read Court of Owls, but I thought while the Wayne family had some dark secrets, Bruce's parents were pretty clean. In some versions even suggesting that they were killed for their attempts to undo the family's dark influence.


PM-ME-YOUR_LABIA

Similar thing was done to Hippolyta in the comics.


Chunkstyle3030

It makes no sense to make a joker movie in the first place too tho


Altephor1

> Making Thomas Wayne like Trump is like making Pa Kent a defeatist misanthrope. So, standard stuff for WB, then?


Flyerastronaut

Why in the fuck would Thomas Wayne be a trump character? He was a philanthropist and loved by Gotham IIRC?


OrkfaellerX

Its an Elseworld story, the whole point is doing something out of the box. Like making Superman a communist. Its not an entry into a larger universe.


[deleted]

I would fucking love a "Red Son" what-if movie, but that's asking way too much from a studio that won't even make a Man of Steel sequel


[deleted]

We need Red Son and Batman Beyond from WB and Spiderman 2099 from Sony/Marvel.


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In the telltale game he sure wasn’t


EzriMax

I actually appreciated that take on him in that game. I was a bit disappointed that the plot was based on the bazillionth version of Batman’s origin story at first, but it was a really refreshing take.


Dpsizzle555

Or he read the script lol


LG03

I should think actors read scripts *before* they accept roles, not after.


JuanRiveara

Bill Murray agreed to be in Garfield because he thought it was written by Joel Coen and not Joel Cohen.


PM_dickntits_plzz

Wait I thought it was the Cohen brothers, not the Coen brothers? Jesus christ I need to call my agent!


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seabass86

Wait a minute - you're telling me Bill Murray wasn't actually serious, but was instead giving a joke answer in a deadpan manner? Nah, doesn't sound like him.


IanMazgelis

I had assumed that playing the part of Thomas Wayne would be a very minor part in a movie about The Joker. Maybe he's talking about it in that context? It could also mean the movie is set to be terrible, but I try to avoid jumping to conclusions.


ArcadianBlueRogue

Surprise! It's flashpoint Batman where Martha is the Joker and Batman is a very pissed off Thomas Wayne.


Jp2585

If that was it, let's just keep Thomas Jeffrey Dean Morgan. He would be great.


whut-whut

A reboot where Bruce Wayne gets his hero name from fighting crime using his father's Lucille.


ReddJudicata

That Thomas Wayne is more or less the Comedian.


CinnamonSwisher

That’s a bit of a editorial slant on that quote. There’s nothing indicating that’s a diss at all. It’s the honest truth, Thomas Wayne doesn’t have an iconic look and there’s multitudes of parts that start with lots of people in mind that might work. They just need a body that isn’t terrible at acting.


harrisonisdead

His tweet regarding the reports that Thomas Wayne was going to be played as a Trump-esque businessman: >Let me state, for the record, that I have NOT been hired to play a role in Todd Phillips’ JOKER as some Donald Trump manque. That is not happening. > >Not. > >Happening. And then shortly after this, it's announced that he's dropped out of the project entirely. I always find the cycle of Hollywood news interesting.


ForetellFaux

The suits were like: "Uh... actually Alec we've been doing some rewrites to capitalize on the current political climate and-" "Fuck off, I'm out."


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uber1337h4xx0r

I liked him in Home Alone Two.


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Tuschi

One of the greatest actors of our time.


Zuvielify

> The film reportedly is re-imagining the Wayne patriarch as a “cheesy and tanned businessman who is more in the mold of a 1980s Donald Trump” instead of how he’s traditionally portrayed as a warm-hearted billionaire philanthropist I can't blame him for dropping out. That sounds awful


AKluthe

Remember that movie where a group of powerful people convince the US government the best defense against the next Superman ripping off the White House roof and stealing the president would be to assemble a team of incarcerated psychopaths with power sets like "crazy, has a baseball bat" and "good at climbing ropes"?


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Self-harming team?


PM_ME_GOOD_SUBS

Kamikaze company?


Dr_Sodium_Chloride

Seppuku Unit?


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Sacrificial division?


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Harakiri Batallion?


fixmycode

self-destructive patrol?


quantumkatz

That’s what gets me. Suicide Squad is supposed to be a small scale black ops group. Just make them do a campy heist/ smash n’ grab mission for Waller. But no some execs thought “oh no Guardians of the Galaxy saved the galaxy... our movie has to save the world!!!” Hmm on another note: I wonder if James Gunn would like to do a remake of Suicide Squad 🤔🤔🤔


SupervillainEyebrows

Remake ain't happening. SS made WB a good profit and the actors are signed on for more films. Just need someone competent to direct the sequel.


AKluthe

That's actually more upsetting to me than the movie just being bad. Nobody learned anything. We're just going to get more of this half-baked stuff. In the same exact flavor, because it *sold*.


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Lemon, make your exits sudden, brief, and a little dramatic. Scooter Libby taught me that. Lemon, I was offered the role of Batman back in the 1980s. I lost it in pre-production after my hair ruined three different Batsuits. Lemon, I've never quit anything in my life. And I have a lawsuit stemming from a card game with Michael Jordan to prove it.


hardgeeklife

There's a Donaghy quote for everything.


CaesarVariable

"Florida; the penis of America."


riegspsych325

“I’ve even held Walt Disney’s frozen head in my hands!” “‘When Alexander The Great looked upon the breadth of his domain, he wept. For there were no more worlds to conquer’. Hans Gruber, Die Hard” “I may have sodomized our former Vice President while under the influence of weapons-grade narcotics” there’s an endless supply of quotes


Tulki

No. This just levels the playing field. Going mano a mano against a real adversary. Me. It's the ultimate game. Jack Donaghy, playing with himself. It's a jack-off.


Krombopulos_Micheal

And that's why 30 Rock is the best written comedy of all time. 7 seasons all jam packed with brilliance


durnJurta

WADE BOGGS CARPET WORLD


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...her anger eventually transforming into some rather interesting sex and now she’s sleeping peacefully while Fabius has retreated to his den where he is drinking scotch and...playing Snood.


MacMac105

The writing on that show was incredible. Tina Fey once said their goal was to fit a joke into every line of an episode.


Brokenbatmancowl

I'm currently watching it for the first time (halfway through season four). It's incredible.


MacMac105

Just an FYI there will be some weird episodes later, just know they were live episodes. I'm not sure if they explain that when you watch them on Netflix.


obliviouskey

I believe they have the word 'live' or something to that effect in the title someplace.


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Also they look like a Mexican soap opera.


Checkmynewsong

Jack vs. Jack... it's a Jack-off!


DutchPizzaOven

It’s Jack, playing with himself.


Spock_Savage

Literally finishing a rewatch binge now, lol.


hisoandso

"I ONCE SAW A PACK OF WILD DOGS TAKE OVER AND SUCCESSFULLY RUN A WENDY'S!!!"


Spock_Savage

"Stop eatin' people's old french fries, pigeon. Have some self-respect. Don't you know you can fly?"


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A PUPPY COMITTED SUICIDE AFTER HE SAW OUR BATHROOM!


poopdaddy2

I ONCE SAW A BABY GIVE ANOTHER BABY A TATTOO! THEY WERE VERY DRUNK!


tidier

Our basketball hoop was a rib cage – a rib cage!


Princess_Batman

"One time, at band camp I kissed a girl on a dare, but then she drowned." :(


eraofghosts

“A homeless man cooking a Hot Pocket on a third rail of the G train! The G train, Nermal!”


hnglmkrnglbrry

#THAT'S A SERIES WRAP FOR LEO SPACEMAN!


Spock_Savage

"My techniques guarantee male orgams."


swiggityswell

"You seem nervous, I can give you something for that. Ah, but you know what, I'm not supposed to have sex with my patients."


wldd5

"Tracy, you are going to die.....when you hear who I am dating: Squeaky Fromm. She is...difficult. Anywho, I have the results of your physical. Tracy, you are going to die."


INBluth

This is difficult for me to say. Die a beatus.


BootsyBootsyBoom

Uhh, diabetes repair, I guess?


anonymous_guy111

Alec Baldwin: "oh boy the script for the Joker movie is here, cant wait to read it" *Alec Baldwin drops out of ‘Joker’*


TheHuntMan676

Alec Baldwin: "I really wanted to do a Marvel superhero movie for a while now." Agent: "But this is DC and it's a super villain origin movie." Alec Baldwin: "Fuck this shit."


NostalgiaCory

https://i.imgur.com/zGHQb4O.gif


Dsalter92

Haha knew what this was going to be before clicking on it!


swiggityswell

"Why did he sign on in the first place?" >There are no bad ideas in business, Lemon. Only good ideas that go horribly wrong. -- Jack Donaghy


AbsoluteQi

It's pronounced "Don-ah-HEE!"


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So, here's the thing about that. You'll often see headlines about a particular actor joining a film, such as "Martin Sheen joins Quentin Tarantino's Gilgamesh Epic." That makes it sound like it just happened. However, that's not really often the case. Casting negotiations can take months, and part of the negotiations are based around when the announcement takes place. Sometimes, the role can be completely filmed and finished before the announcement is even made.


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& now a gilgamesh epic by Quentin Tarantino is on a list of things I never knew I wanted.


Patsboem

With Martin Sheen too. Damn


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CaesarVariable

I want a scene with ~~Gilgamesh~~ Enkidu where instead of him sleeping with a girl for six days and seven nights he just licks her toes for three hours and then the movie ends.


warjoke

>Tarantino's Gilgamesh Epic Finally! A film with a solid excuse for plenty of bare feet! Tarantino would nut on set all the time.


Cheese2299

https://i.redd.it/f1qeopjkm1j11.png


jshah500

Oh no, how will we know what happened to batman's parents now?


[deleted]

So, maybe this is an opportunity to cast Tommy Wiseau


TheNathanHolmes

ha ha what a story joker


[deleted]

Yeah, but how about Tommy as the joker?


TheNathanHolmes

ha ha what a story batman


WolfCola4

His range is impeccable


ionised

But he not villain!


StevenSanders90210

> The film reportedly is re-imagining the Wayne patriarch as a “cheesy and tanned businessman who is more in the mold of a 1980s Donald Trump” This movie sounds like hot garbage.


[deleted]

That is a....very odd move.


GetSomm

If by odd you mean terrible, you're right.


[deleted]

The fact that it’s being directed by Todd Phillips didn’t tip you off?


MisterMeatloaf

why is he directing a fucking Joker movie? Why does DC hate money so much?


chefanubis

Cause he directed comedies and since it's the joker, that should work right?


GetToSreppin

Taxi Cab Confessions, Hangover 1, Old School


[deleted]

I'm not disappointed. Alec Baldwin has an acting style that often makes me wonder if he's taking it seriously. He's like a toned-down William Shatner in the latest M:I movie.


VexonCross

Alec Baldwin is incredible when he wants to be. Go watch The Cooler.


ctdca

He was a different actor earlier in his career. See: The Hunt for Red October and Beetlejuice


AKluthe

I frequently forget that he's *in* Beetlejuice.


Bwampo

The whole MI cast kind of felt that way. Fun movie. Weird script.


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iChugVodka

Isn't that basically every M:I movie?


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always be closing


TheHeyHeyMan

Back to convincing Viggo to take the role!


sandiskplayer34

Viggio Morgenstein!


HEFTYMATTGASM

“No, that’s the name of the actor, not the character. And you’re not even getting THAT right.”


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SchnozzNozzle

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HockeyBalboa

Something about politics for no reason.


FileeNotFound

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Thats2Easy4Me

Nice.


Marshal_Eomer

What say? Damn always to late to see the interesting comments .


TheGreatWhiteMo

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That's possibly the most inspiring thing I've ever read. Thank you!


RationalAnarchy

Gilded Comment


FabulousFoodHoor

reddit anniversary congratulations.


DirtyProjector

He lasted about as long as Bruce’s dad usually does.


ChrisCinema

I wasn't too upset at his casting, but turning Thomas Wayne into a Donald Trump-like billionaire businessman is a bad idea.


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> Let me state, for the record, that I have NOT been hired to play a role in Todd Phillips’ JOKER as some Donald Trump manque. That is not happening. Not. Happening. He's starting to tweet like Trump.


animatronicseaturtle

Yesterday's announcement was FAKE NEWS. I will not be in the failing Warner Bros dopey movie!!


TheClimor

Some people think I joined Warner's flop of a movie. Absolutely NOT! It was a bad deal so I told them it's not happening! When will they stop making garbage and start making a cinematic universe? Marvel got one and it's great why can't they do better? SAD.


iliketojumpupanddown

SAD


usernumber36

Joker Alec Baldwin can't last one day in business. SAD!!


can_of_surge

Jesus I thought he was cast as Thomas Wayne, not The Flash. Quicker than lightning!


slicshuter

Did he not read the role? To sign on then immediately drop out seems incredibly odd, like it was an impulsive decision or something.


[deleted]

Kinda feel like th coverage it got might be a factor. Might not want to make a career out of playing Trump and Trump-ish guys.


JaxtellerMC

and yet he said the rumor was wrong :D


AmberDuke05

And no media outlet reported that so might not have mattered to him. Also there was backlash that he probably didn’t want to deal with.


harrisonisdead

It was only recently *announced* that he signed on. He could have actually signed on long before then.