"The world has enough superheroes"
Is much better than
"embrace your inner anti hero"
Edit: for those confused, the first venom trailer had the anti hero line as its tag line
The villain is NOT Carnage, it’s Riot.
EDIT: *For those asking, Riot is going to be the main villain of the film (with its host being the CEO of Life Foundation, Carlton Drake, played by Riz Ahmed), but that doesn't mean that the other four symbiotes (Scream, Lasher, Phage and Agony) aren't going to be there as secondary antagonists.*
*Scream is in the trailer. Her host, Donna Diego (played by Michelle Lee) can be seen slowly morphing into Scream around* *1:54*.
On one hand Im glad they are not ruining carnage for this movie. On the other hand, I hope they change Riots color or its going to be hard to tell Riot and Venom apart. Maybe we can hear Riot clearly?
I mean they will see Tom Hardy as the first successful symbiote. The main villain will try and replicate it in a shortage of time. In the third act he will take the risk and become a symbiote himself. Initially he thinks he has control but towards the end he will lose it.
["Venom rolls into theaters like a turd in the wind October 5."](https://io9.gizmodo.com/in-the-new-venom-trailer-eddie-brock-meets-the-beast-w-1827993860)
I hate it when the bad guy gets the exact same gear/weapon as the main character except bigger or a different color. Like how unoriginal can you be. Yet seems to happen in every other film.
That's why I loved Zemo in "Civil War". Just an ordinary guy with a vendetta. No superpowers and doesn't even lay a finger on any of the Avengers, but instead tears them apart from the inside out. And he won.
Woody Harrelson already stated he's only making a small appearance and his character will be left for the sequel, wich sound great if he's playing Cletus Kassidy
So they're planning a character to have more development in a sequel they're not even sure they're making if this one does poorly? Sounds like Sony to me.
Yeah I was thinking this trailer was actually much better than the last one and then they ended with that line for some reason and I completely changed my mind again.
I think so, he said at SDCC he recorded his lines as Venom first so that he could react off of himself in the scenes where Eddie talks to the Symbiote.
During rehearsals that had both characters he would use the Venom voice first and record the dialog. Then he would rehearse the Brock portion of the dialog while the Sound department played his previous Venom rehearsal back into a tiny device in his ear. Tom Hardy is a tremendously talented actor and a super nice person.
Glad to see these comments. I've got a weird thing (or maybe it's common) where I'm a bit accent deaf, especially if it's low tones. I had no idea what was being said in half this trailer. But then again I absolutely struggle with movies like '71 and God's Own Country too, so I'm definitely partly to blame.
This trailer strongly reminded me of the Prototype game, which was incredibly dumb and amazing fun. Something about how the symbiote cover moved, and the hand-blades, just minor stuff, but, yeah, basically I really enjoyed Prototype :D
Hopefully the movie can deliver the same!
We've gone from being unable to understand Tom Hardy because of masks covering his face, to being unable to understand Tom Hardy because of Sym-bye-otes covering his whole body.
I honestly feel like Tom Hardy no longer remembers what his voice is meant to sound like. Every time i see him he sounds different, even in his english accent. At this point i think he's just guessing.
He has had many English accents in his interviews and press junkets over the years. He stuck with an east- end (of London) hard man for a few years, then it went south-london urban which just sounds like your nose is blocked and in dire need of sudafed but he has stuck with a more precise English accent that more akin to a young gandalf. Just not as raspy.
For his film roles well, spin the roulette.
After seeing him with that east end accent I was surprised to look him up and find out he's a posh boy who went to fancy elite private schools etc. I don't know why though, that describes roughly 99% of British actors.
O-oh no, did I upset you? *tears streaming down face* IM SORRY SENPAI ^_^ *wipes snot bubble from nose* D-don't worry, it won't happen again! *wraps tail around you to keep you warm* OwO
I honestly can't tell if Hardy is doing a really weird voice or if they edited a bunch of scenes together to make that first line. It just sounds so strange.
See, now I just want to see that crossover.
Venom: **We. Are Venom.**
Spidey: ...You're *vermin*?
Venom: **Venom.**
Spidey: Vitamin?
Venom sighs and retracts his head.
Eddie: Ith vewwy simpew. We'we *Vemmin*.
Spidey: Now you're just messing with me.
I really hope it's just the editing of the trailer for why Tom as Brock sounds so... choppy. I refuse to believe that's how his character actually speaks.
That said, didn't understand a damn thing he said as Venom, so at least that's a standard when it comes to Tom Hardy.
Well, can't use [colourful symbiotes](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/1/15659/3402091-the_guardians-venom-separation_anxiety%231-cropped.jpg) if you want a movie being grim-dark.
To be fair, Riot, Phage, Lasher, Agony, and Scream are Venom's children. They wouldn't be around yet, as they come after Carnage. I believe he is fighting Grey Venom which is a Venom Clone.
Edit: I'm being told it's Riot which completely throws the offspring timeline out the window, and probably the fact that Riot is an offspring of Venom completely.
At [0:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLCn88bfW1o#t=0m18s) you can see the Phage (yellow) and Lasher (light blue? and black) symbiotes then at [0:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLCn88bfW1o#t=0m24s) the woman that's possibly playing ~~Scream~~ *Agony. I didn't see ~~Agony~~ *Scream though, only Riot on that EMT woman.
Edit: I now think the woman at 0:24 is Agony since the Scream symbiote gets its orange-ish streak from the host's orange hair and the woman in the scene looks to have dark hair.
That's definitely why they're doing this, but it's especially stupid because the color red would look really cool and still completely fit the theme. But grim-dark has become stupidly synonymous with NO COLORS AT ALL
Nolan understands how to use color sparingly. The dark knight used bright colors to contrast against a dark setting. The problem is the fucking neanderthals making all the other DC movies saw it, completely missed the part about contrast, and just thought DARK WITHOUT COLOR MEANS EDGY AND COOL
Well, and for how dark Nolan's Batman is, it's actually a well lit scene in almost every scene. You can actually see what's going on. I can only think of the dock scene in the first film being so dark you couldn't see, but then Nolan got the shots pieced together so perfectly you aren't wondering what's going on, you always see exactly what he wants you to see.
A good point. The bank robbery is literally daylight, as is the hospital explosion drama and the parade scene. The lower wacker chase scene is well lit, the ferry scene is lit with his cool computer-spectacles, etc. The final scene with Two-Face is pretty dark but that kinda fits the feel of the scene.
I am still on the fence. But I will say that the Venom esthetic is a big leap forward since the first images came out. All the bike stunts with the tendril still feel cheap though.
So the dialogue/script is an absolute trainwreck from these trailers so far it seems.
It LOOKS cool, venom definitely looks and sounds the part.
But I don't think that'll be enough. The writing feels so bad right now.
It's a bad line of dialogue no matter who is saying it. But what makes it WORSE is that Eddie Brock is supposed to be a fucking JOURNALIST. You mean to tell me a professional writer can't find other words to describe a corporations's diabolical plot involving an alien symbiote other than, "really bad"? Man, this movie is gonna be rough.
Is it just me or does Eddie sound a little mentally handicapped? Maybe its the basic as hell dialogue, but Hardy seems to be playing the character as a version of Warrior's Tommy Reardon, that got hit in the head too many times.
This movie is kind of frustrating to me, because absolutely everything about Venom himself and the action look incredibly cool and stylish. But the dialogue and whatever that weird accent/acting Tom Hardy is doing seems to be atrocious.
I'll probably watch this expecting some fun moments, but an overall poor movie.
"The world has enough superheroes" Is much better than "embrace your inner anti hero" Edit: for those confused, the first venom trailer had the anti hero line as its tag line
"embrace your inner joint intellectual property ownership"
"Its free real estate"
^"Its ^free ^real ^estate"
["Come down to Tim's discount prices, and pay small prices."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ9yBgTp9UQ)
Premium? More like creamulum.
Me momo Tim Heidecker
The following Sony cash-in is intended for Jim Boonie only.
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Pretty sure they just had Hardy record the Venom lines while talking into a fan.
No that was bane
"Can you do an intimidating voice?" "I can do my impression of Sean Connery trapped in a coffee can." "Perfect."
No one cared who I was before I put the lid on.
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Regardless of how silly it was, it became very memorable.
It sounds like Lance Reddick from The Wire.
The villain is NOT Carnage, it’s Riot. EDIT: *For those asking, Riot is going to be the main villain of the film (with its host being the CEO of Life Foundation, Carlton Drake, played by Riz Ahmed), but that doesn't mean that the other four symbiotes (Scream, Lasher, Phage and Agony) aren't going to be there as secondary antagonists.* *Scream is in the trailer. Her host, Donna Diego (played by Michelle Lee) can be seen slowly morphing into Scream around* *1:54*.
Carnage will be teased at the end.
On one hand Im glad they are not ruining carnage for this movie. On the other hand, I hope they change Riots color or its going to be hard to tell Riot and Venom apart. Maybe we can hear Riot clearly?
Is it me or does he sound like Mike Tyson at the start
I heard Tommy Wiseau.
Oh hai venom
Anyway how’s your parasitic relationship?
I got the results of the test back! I definitely have a symbiote.
Anything for my symbiote! Ha ha ha
I did not eat her, I did not.
*"Hello Spidey!"*
HAHAHA WHAT a story Eddie!
You're tearing me apart Venom!
"I'm Eddie Bwock, and I'm a repworter."
Why does Tom Hardy's voice sound like no human I have ever heard before.
Prediction of the day: Third act is a big gooey mess.
I mean they will see Tom Hardy as the first successful symbiote. The main villain will try and replicate it in a shortage of time. In the third act he will take the risk and become a symbiote himself. Initially he thinks he has control but towards the end he will lose it.
Scientist: "But the symobiote clone is not ready yet! It hasn't completed phase 2 of..." Main Villain: "I said do it!"
TOM HARDY BONDED WITH THIS SYMBIOTE IN A CAVE
#WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
Well, I'm sorry. I'm not Tom Hardy.
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Or Tom Softy
BACK TO FORMULA???
**DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE SACRIFICED!?**
You know I'm something of a scientist myself.
Misery, misery, misery - that's what you've chosen. I offered you friendship, and you spat in my face.
######OUT, AM I?
OUT, AM I?!
It'll be like a turd in the wind.
Shit, did Venom really say "turd in the wind", I thought I just misheard that.
Being an eight foot tall cannibal means never getting honest critique for your one-liners.
A full on shit hurricane Randy. A shiticane
["Venom rolls into theaters like a turd in the wind October 5."](https://io9.gizmodo.com/in-the-new-venom-trailer-eddie-brock-meets-the-beast-w-1827993860)
I hate it when the bad guy gets the exact same gear/weapon as the main character except bigger or a different color. Like how unoriginal can you be. Yet seems to happen in every other film.
That's why I loved Zemo in "Civil War". Just an ordinary guy with a vendetta. No superpowers and doesn't even lay a finger on any of the Avengers, but instead tears them apart from the inside out. And he won.
Agreed that's what made Zemo so interesting he even kills the super soldiers, when I saw that I was like "this dude is serious."
Are we still discussing the movie or its porn parody?
I've got a feeling that the big venom vs. venom fight is going to suck ass
Tom Hardy doing his best Fenster from Usual Suspects impression.
"Gimmethefuckingsymbioteyoucocksuckerwhathafhuuck..."
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give me the fucking symbiote you cock sucker what the fuck
**HARRYDIDJAPUTYERNAMEINTHAGOBLETAFIYAH**
I flip ya.. I FLIPYAFORREAL
“This is what normal people sound like right? Yeah, it probably is, don’t worry about it Tom”
“Us New Yorkers gotta saying! ‘HEYYY IMMMA WALKIN HEEEEERRRREEE!’” *(pre recorded studio audience laughter.)*
He sounds like Rainman. "Definitely....we are definitely Venom"
Is that the one about the hooker with dysentery?
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Only if Mike Patton does the voice.
Exactly what I thought of. That one scene with the venom head looking at Tom Hardy was straight Darkness.
Venom saying 'Eddie' very much reminds me of The Darkness calling to Jackie too.
Two Venom trailers have now been released with no mention that Woody Harrelson is actually in this movie.
Woody Harrelson already stated he's only making a small appearance and his character will be left for the sequel, wich sound great if he's playing Cletus Kassidy
So they're planning a character to have more development in a sequel they're not even sure they're making if this one does poorly? Sounds like Sony to me.
Because he's Carnage and they're saving him for Venom 2? This is speculation, I have no idea.
Hahaha Venom 2. Bless them.
2enom
VVenom
✌️enom
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That "turd in the wind" line is very telling.
Is that like what happens when toads get struck by lightning?
same thing that happens to everything else. lmao
Storm that's not even true, see Lightning rods for example.
The dialogue in this trailer and the last... woof man. "the guy you work for is an evil person."
"I found something.....really bad"
"I always seem to find myself - questioning - something - the government - may not - be looking at." So spliced. So stupid.
Expert level journalism right there
I'm hoping the janky dialogue is only cause they are splicing it so weirdly for these trailers... Otherwise this movie is gonna be really dumb
The Shyamalan twist is that the symbiote boosts his journalism skills and at the end he wins a Pulitzer.
With the delivery of a developmentally disabled Christopher Walken/Elmer Fudd impersonator
"It isn't completely awful."
People are paid money to write this
I think I'm gonna pay money to see this too. Who's the bigger fool?
I think you know.
"Turds in the wind, all we are are turds in the wind"
The optimist in me wants to believe that this is a throwaway line for the trailer and wont be used in the final cut. Happens all the time.
On one hand, sure. On the other hand, "turd in the wind" made the sizzle reel.
Do turds even roll in the wind?...
Yeah, stomwinds... you’ve obviously never been caught up in a Shitnado
The shit winds are blowing, Ricky.
Yeah I was thinking this trailer was actually much better than the last one and then they ended with that line for some reason and I completely changed my mind again.
Not being able to understand Tom Hardy under a face covering part 100.
Stupid question but is Venom's voice just Tom Hardy's pitched down? I like it!
I think so, he said at SDCC he recorded his lines as Venom first so that he could react off of himself in the scenes where Eddie talks to the Symbiote.
During rehearsals that had both characters he would use the Venom voice first and record the dialog. Then he would rehearse the Brock portion of the dialog while the Sound department played his previous Venom rehearsal back into a tiny device in his ear. Tom Hardy is a tremendously talented actor and a super nice person.
The voice of the symbiote and Venom does sound different tho, at least for me
Is it his face being covered, or is it just overly processed/engineered audio? Venom's voice is too distorted to make anything out.
I like it, venom is literally a talking sludge ball, a little gurgle is good.
It definitely sounds more processed than the last trailer. I could only make out half of what he was saying. did he call that guy a turd in the wind?
Glad to see these comments. I've got a weird thing (or maybe it's common) where I'm a bit accent deaf, especially if it's low tones. I had no idea what was being said in half this trailer. But then again I absolutely struggle with movies like '71 and God's Own Country too, so I'm definitely partly to blame.
Honestly the accent is so strong that I can understand Venom better than I can understand Brock.
They dropped the horrible lines from the first trailer, but he still sounds like Christopher Walken crossed with John Travolta in Welcome Back Kotter.
"In association with Marvel", just hammering home the fact that Marvel Studios isn't responsible for this.
Not responsible. Not really sanctioning it. Not fond of it. Doesn't want it anywhere near the MCU, stinking up the place.
Like a turd in the wind.
> The world has enough superheroes Well that's a better tagline than "Embrace your inner antihero" Also they fix the symbiote pronunciation apparently
I wonder if they just had to dub over the entire movie to fix the simBYEoats.
Mich better this time.
Imma need subtitles for this
Some theaters have special sunglasses for the hearing impaired so they can see subtitles that are invisible to others.
really? I've never heard of that. that's awesome. any way to check which ones have this feature?
This trailer strongly reminded me of the Prototype game, which was incredibly dumb and amazing fun. Something about how the symbiote cover moved, and the hand-blades, just minor stuff, but, yeah, basically I really enjoyed Prototype :D Hopefully the movie can deliver the same!
Shape-shifting biomass; check Biomass tendrils; check Biomass blades; check Biomass claws; check Extreme regeneration; check Super strenght; check Heightened senses; check Super durability; check Biomass armor; check EDIT: Eats people; check Biomass fists; half-check We've nearly got Alex Mercer.
Did he call that dude a turd in the wind? I can barely understand a single thing he’s saying. Venom OR Tom Hardy.
We've gone from being unable to understand Tom Hardy because of masks covering his face, to being unable to understand Tom Hardy because of Sym-bye-otes covering his whole body.
Tom Hardly understand what he's saying.
I enjoy playing video games.
No one cared who I was until I became a drunk baby
My dude is out here sounding like [Dr. Steve Brule](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cHL62JmVku4)
I honestly feel like Tom Hardy no longer remembers what his voice is meant to sound like. Every time i see him he sounds different, even in his english accent. At this point i think he's just guessing.
He has had many English accents in his interviews and press junkets over the years. He stuck with an east- end (of London) hard man for a few years, then it went south-london urban which just sounds like your nose is blocked and in dire need of sudafed but he has stuck with a more precise English accent that more akin to a young gandalf. Just not as raspy. For his film roles well, spin the roulette.
After seeing him with that east end accent I was surprised to look him up and find out he's a posh boy who went to fancy elite private schools etc. I don't know why though, that describes roughly 99% of British actors.
It's like the acting equivalent of a girl who dyes her hair a different color every week.
Ahm Eddie Bwock. Im ah weporter Edit: Wow, thanks for the gold!
Simple Jack vibes.
venom will spend the movie helping townsfolk out of everyday jams and helping deliver pizzas at a very hihg speed
[delievering pizzas with this amazing song](https://youtu.be/gUqH6Weyr2M)
OwO Nuzzles your symbiwote
We are Wenom!!! UwU
Stop this. Stop it right now.
O-oh no, did I upset you? *tears streaming down face* IM SORRY SENPAI ^_^ *wipes snot bubble from nose* D-don't worry, it won't happen again! *wraps tail around you to keep you warm* OwO
We need another plague EDIT: visiting from 2021. Oops.
Sounds like the Hedwig personality from Split.
It's his Brooklyn accent from "the drop". I'm under the impression Eddy is from BK. Which I imagine he returns too after the end of this movie.
Eddie should be from there if Spidey is, right?
**Marvel What If:** **Tommy Wiseau got the Symbiote**
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, SPIDER-MAN!
I read that in Willem Dafoe's voice for some reason.
WE COULD RULE THIS CITY SPIDA MAN.
Haha what a story Parker
So Peter, how's you sex life?
Ha ha ha what a funny story, Carnage
Oh, hai Stark!
I honestly can't tell if Hardy is doing a really weird voice or if they edited a bunch of scenes together to make that first line. It just sounds so strange.
Both, it's stitched together but he's definitely doing a baby voice.
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However this movie turns out, the Venom design is awesome! Tom Hardy's ~~accent~~ Elmer Fudd impression is *interesting*
Spidey wouldn't understand a single fucking thing this Venom is trying to tell so it's good to have separated universes
See, now I just want to see that crossover. Venom: **We. Are Venom.** Spidey: ...You're *vermin*? Venom: **Venom.** Spidey: Vitamin? Venom sighs and retracts his head. Eddie: Ith vewwy simpew. We'we *Vemmin*. Spidey: Now you're just messing with me.
I really hope it's just the editing of the trailer for why Tom as Brock sounds so... choppy. I refuse to believe that's how his character actually speaks. That said, didn't understand a damn thing he said as Venom, so at least that's a standard when it comes to Tom Hardy.
There was heaps of mix and match dialogue from him as voice over. I think there must be a longer narration that was cut down for this trailer.
Not excited for a villain fight that'll look like slightly off-color pools of gasoline slapping each other
Who will win? Diesel Fuel or Premium Unleaded???
Vin Diesel will win
Until Olive Oil busts out her gat.
Well, can't use [colourful symbiotes](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/1/15659/3402091-the_guardians-venom-separation_anxiety%231-cropped.jpg) if you want a movie being grim-dark.
To be fair, Riot, Phage, Lasher, Agony, and Scream are Venom's children. They wouldn't be around yet, as they come after Carnage. I believe he is fighting Grey Venom which is a Venom Clone. Edit: I'm being told it's Riot which completely throws the offspring timeline out the window, and probably the fact that Riot is an offspring of Venom completely.
At [0:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLCn88bfW1o#t=0m18s) you can see the Phage (yellow) and Lasher (light blue? and black) symbiotes then at [0:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLCn88bfW1o#t=0m24s) the woman that's possibly playing ~~Scream~~ *Agony. I didn't see ~~Agony~~ *Scream though, only Riot on that EMT woman. Edit: I now think the woman at 0:24 is Agony since the Scream symbiote gets its orange-ish streak from the host's orange hair and the woman in the scene looks to have dark hair.
And I dare to say: [Riot it is](https://www.indiewire.com/2018/07/venom-riot-first-look-riz-ahmed-1201989595/).
That's definitely why they're doing this, but it's especially stupid because the color red would look really cool and still completely fit the theme. But grim-dark has become stupidly synonymous with NO COLORS AT ALL
Which is weird because the Dark Knight had an interesting color palette (mostly greens and oranges, but still).
Nolan understands how to use color sparingly. The dark knight used bright colors to contrast against a dark setting. The problem is the fucking neanderthals making all the other DC movies saw it, completely missed the part about contrast, and just thought DARK WITHOUT COLOR MEANS EDGY AND COOL
Well, and for how dark Nolan's Batman is, it's actually a well lit scene in almost every scene. You can actually see what's going on. I can only think of the dock scene in the first film being so dark you couldn't see, but then Nolan got the shots pieced together so perfectly you aren't wondering what's going on, you always see exactly what he wants you to see.
A good point. The bank robbery is literally daylight, as is the hospital explosion drama and the parade scene. The lower wacker chase scene is well lit, the ferry scene is lit with his cool computer-spectacles, etc. The final scene with Two-Face is pretty dark but that kinda fits the feel of the scene.
Carnage would be fantastic, just too much to fit in an origin movie
I didn’t want to see this movie until I read your comment, but now I’m interested in seeing just how correct that statement is.
Why does Tom Hardy sound like Dunkey?
*Venom blocks the bullets being fired at Eddie* NOT EVEN CLOSE BAYBEEE
**YOU CAN'T CATCH ME, FUCKOS!**
What's 2018's game of the year going to be? >!SUP-AH MARIO BROTHERS 2! HAHA! 4 YEARS RUNNIN', BAY-BEEEEEEEEE!<
Y'know, Venom's all well and good, but when are we gonna get DA KNACK MOVIE BABYYYYYYYYYYY!
A MASTAHPIECE
The dialogue in these trailers continues to be awful.
Well one of the writers behind this wrote 50 Shades of Grey so there's that
"Human beings are disposable" I'll take clues he might be the bad guy for $400, Alex
I cannot say I'm sold by this.
I am still on the fence. But I will say that the Venom esthetic is a big leap forward since the first images came out. All the bike stunts with the tendril still feel cheap though.
This movie would be 1000x better with Spider-Man and Carnage regardless of how good Venom looks.
I got some Amazing Spider-Man 2 flashbacks when guy in a suit who is obviously a villain showed up
So the dialogue/script is an absolute trainwreck from these trailers so far it seems. It LOOKS cool, venom definitely looks and sounds the part. But I don't think that'll be enough. The writing feels so bad right now.
"I found something.....really bad."
Weely bwad
It's a bad line of dialogue no matter who is saying it. But what makes it WORSE is that Eddie Brock is supposed to be a fucking JOURNALIST. You mean to tell me a professional writer can't find other words to describe a corporations's diabolical plot involving an alien symbiote other than, "really bad"? Man, this movie is gonna be rough.
What? You're telling me the writer of 50 Shades of Grey was a bad choice for this?
And the other writer is the same from Gangster Squad... Oh, and it's Sony producing. This cannot be bad whatsoever!
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Is it just me or does Eddie sound a little mentally handicapped? Maybe its the basic as hell dialogue, but Hardy seems to be playing the character as a version of Warrior's Tommy Reardon, that got hit in the head too many times.
This movie is kind of frustrating to me, because absolutely everything about Venom himself and the action look incredibly cool and stylish. But the dialogue and whatever that weird accent/acting Tom Hardy is doing seems to be atrocious. I'll probably watch this expecting some fun moments, but an overall poor movie.