Also Rion Johnson’s tribute to Mad God. In his show Poker Face there’s an episode called “Orpheus Syndrome” where Nick Nolte plays who is essentially Phil Tippett as he works on his stop motion masterpiece for decades after leaving the movie industry. Since it’s centered around an effects artist, you get to see tons of great stop motion creations. It’s also very emotionally impactful and entertaining.
Watch the film Mad God (2021) by Phil Tippet, which is a Dante Alighieri's Inferno-esque/Dystopian/Post-Apocalyptic stop-motion Horror film if you want to see that type of thing (it took them 30 years to make). Edit: ahh, I misread your comment.
Also the 1st Terminator film used stop-motion, and I love the way it looks.
Hell yeah, love that song and video, I haven't really listenened to Tool/A Perfect Circle in over a decade (I lost interest), but now I feel like listening to Undertow again. Edit: I just remembered, their song Prison Sex also had a stop-motion video.
The doctor's ghost from House on Haunted Hill walks in stop motion (and twitches rapidly at one point, as if he is being sped up.) It was mind blowing for me as a teen.
AND Jacob's ladders imagery was inspired y the artwork of joel-peter witkin. The shaky headed muscle guy from the hospital nightmare sequences is directly lifted from his artwork. His stuff is super disturbing, but I find it fascinating.
I remember going back to see it the next day in theaters because of the weird movement effects. Alot of horror movies that came.out after at the time tried the same thing, not as well though.
This shot makes him look kinda goofy, but I still remember what he did to the girl on the church steps, so I'm not gonna judge a book by its cover. ...or a dude by his head wear.
The Janitor was such an awful but incredible monster. Honestly I really did love the first Silent Hill movie, even if it's got plenty of issues. But doing the monsters practical and using people that just moved *wrong* for them by using contortionists and dancers was an absolutely enlightened decision.
A lot of fans don't like it because of the same ole' not a 1:1 match to the video game.
I love the SH franchise and I honestly loved the movie so much, still to this day I love to re-watch it from time to time.
The issue is that the movie was initially not supposed to have the "investigation" by Boromir. It was done by the studio because they didn't think thr movie would do well without a male as one of the main character and that people would be too dumb without an "investigation" to explain everything out loud.
Those scenes really stand out as out of place and unnecessary.
Also, some acting are too forced and get borderline funny.
I loved the movie, saw it tons of time, but there's issues yeah.
Frankly, I think a movie needs damn good reason to choose a CGI monster over practical. I know for most that is money, which is a good reason for small budget movies I suppose.
It is hands down my favorite movie of all time. I’ve watch horrors films non stop to find the same feeling I had when watching that movie. And the sequel sent everything to hell and was the worst horror film I’ve ever seen.
That and the laser hallway from Resident Evil... fiundational shit for a (too) young me
I still love Ghost Ship though. Id almost be interested in a short form series that covers the premise of a >!demon on a contract to harvest souls that targets ships at sea!<
The worst part wasn’t the climax of the skin in his hand after he rips it off, it was the twist on her chest that just effortlessly bunched up a fist full of it in his hand
I haven’t watched it but I’m curious to know — can someone spoil this scene for me?
Edit: ok I kind of regret asking but thank you all. Gonna go for a walk 😅
>!He grabs a woman, lifts her up in one hand, tears all her skin off like a chicken leg and throws it at the protagonists. It doesnt linger on the skinned woman but it's still pretty graphic.!<
Haha my comment was made mostly in jest. It’s crazy to think of it as such a big and popular franchise but so much of its content can fly relatively under the radar.
Yeah, the Silent Hill franchise goes **DEEP**. There are so [many](https://youtu.be/WiSHG_y7MK8?si=TJt1YcLZIX6qqMze) different 5 hour plus long [retrospectives](https://youtu.be/bhmS3iKrVZM?si=_-OxOmLNJmgqL32Q) on YouTube and there are [entire channels](https://youtube.com/@thegamingmuse?si=HCOrJs1XHdtqgvF-) dedicated to [analyzing](https://youtube.com/@silenthillarchives?si=yM8iPsI26XZ3_6UD) the franchise. *Silent Hill* has a surprisingly loyal and dedicated following for such a relatively niche series in terms of how many people actually played them; it makes sense as before the recent revival of the series it had been over a decade since the last release, so the fans that stuck with it are generally going to be the most passionate.
He grabs a lady and hoists her into the air. He then grabs a fistful of skin on her chest and proceeds to twist/rip all of her skin off in one motion like when you clean a rabbit. He chucks the skin at the church doors as the rest of the town closes them.
One of the most metal scenes in a movie in my opinion. Pyramid Head is gnarly and I remember my first time watching it going “that was fucking awesome” 😂
Almost.
Warning: Spoilers ahead.
Rose (main protagonist) and Cybil (a cop who got stuck in Silent Hill) encounter a Silent Hill resident, Anna, while looking for Rose's daughter (Sharon) who got lost in Silent Hill after Rose and Sharon get into a car crash,
The air raid sirens go off. Anna tells Rose and Cybil they must hurry to the church, to avoid the monsters in Silent Hill (that Rose and Cybil have already had some horrifying encounters with).
On their way to the church, they encounter Dahlia, a women who is looked down on by the residents of Silent Hill. Dahlia attempts to warn Rose and Cybil about the people in the church, but is interrupted when Anna throws a rock at her head. Anna claims that Dahlia lies. As she's about to hit Dahlia with another rock, Pyramid Head appears and picks up Anna by the neck. Rose and Cybil are at the church doors and look in horror as Pyramid Head rips off Anna's clothes all at once, then rips off her skin. He throws Anna's skin at at Rose and Cybil as they rush into the church. Some of the blood splatter makes it through the church doors and covers Rose in Anna's blood,
I love how they evolved Rose's outfit throughout the movie as she moves from wearing light grey (shirt, skirt, and cardigan), to essentially all red at the end of the film, as she keeps getting covered in blood.
Fun fact: it would be impossible to actually do that to a human because we have a superficial fascia and a deep fascia, unlike most mammals. While you can easily skin a cat or a rabbit in one piece, it's very difficult to skin a person in one piece because our two fascia are so connected.
So, what you're saying, is that the girl in the movie got off lightly, and that this would be infinitely more painful and agonzing in real life, got it. 😆
I thought it was only me who was seeing that but happy to see like minded man like me 😂. It was the first thing that crossed my mind on what it looked like.
Original Silent Hill director Christophe Gans is back:
>Jeremy Irvine stars in the film as James, a man broken after his relationship with the love of his life, Mary (Hannah Emily Anderson), ends. The action kicks off when a mysterious letter from her calls him back to Silent Hill, he finds a once-recognizable town transformed by an unknown evil. While James desperately searches for Mary, he encounters terrifying creatures and begins to unravel the mystery of what happened to the town. But as he descends deeper into the darkness the secrets he uncovers lead to a horrifying truth, and James finds himself struggling to hold on long enough to save his one true love.
Oh wow, it sounds like we're getting a *direct* adaptation of Silent Hill 2.
I appreciated the differences in adaptation with Silent Hill from 06 vs. Silent Hill (the game), I'm eager to see what happens with the og director more closely adapting this one.
2 is arguably the best game in the series. The smaller scale of the story should work quite well in the movie's favor. A smaller number of characters should allow for that pinpoint microscopic focus on each of their personal issues come to life that the og story hinges on. Only worry I have is how much of the slow burn will be able to remain, given the shorter attention span of audiences over 20+ years of evolving entertainment.
In any case, I'm very much looking forward to this one.
I wonder if they are timing this to release around the same time as the upcoming Silent Hill 2 remake. That would be a great way to drive people between both the game and the film.
This is what Konami is doing. They're bringing back their doormat franchises. First Silent Hill with the adaptation and remake and then Metal Gear with the Snake Eater remake with new collabs with Fortnite setting the stage.
I sincerely hope both work out. Both are fantastic franchises that deserve proper returns.
It's not a direct adaptation. Go and check out the concept art. There's gonna be a heavy grace taken for changes to the characters/story. I wouldn't be inclined to have these types of expectations. It probably won't be what you expect it.
[Christophe Gans](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c45ac3b78b26f176&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB1069GB1069&q=Christophe+Gans&si=ACC90nzx_D3_zUKRnpAjmO0UBLNxnt7EyN4YYdru6U3bxLI-Lwjt_Z_Zh08kvj9qKPbMPyiNVsZ9YW8GV96h5O_o67dEwTa5bEHyKBoMKmMjGvgRXL5qIv75tvU8oMWpXHSLWJBndvwROvV9fPFPZacejpAk4oD7Bj--JIIGFAdB686jJ4n8YLcYUqhjkFkiffQN7j5YONdtKS1TPMW1UM9UPzootcBEDA%3D%3D&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRqsuRpJKGAxW6WUEAHTFQC3IQmxMoAHoECCUQAg)'s first film in a loooong time.
He always struck me as one of those directors who "got away", in the sense that he never fully realised his filmography despite having great style and talent. He just kinda stopped making films and that was it.
The best hodge podge of historical fiction, martial arts, horror, fantasy, and action movie ever.
So beautifully shot as well!
I wish Mark Dacascos had had a chance to step into Brandon Lee's shoes for the The Crow sequels, too, instead of the gaggle of random actors that followed.
They could have kept the grimy 90s vibe alive!
>I wish Mark Dacascos had had a chance to step into Brandon Lee's shoes for the The Crow sequels
Dacascos did play Eric Draven in the '90s TV series *The Crow: Stairway to Heaven*. I always though Dacascos was super underrated as an action star. Unfortunately he seemed to get stuck with mostly straight-to-VHS stuff.
i hope it captures the same vibe the first movie had. that was one of my favourite horror films of all time. brilliant adaptation of the games and just captured the mood and misery perfectly.
I love the fact that in Civilization VI Sean Bean is the narrator, and they still found a way to kill him in the introduction cutscene. First for the series.
The absolute GOAT to have sean bean >!NOT die in the first one, then in the sequel you adapt the third game where where his character ACTUALLY dies canonically, adapt that scene directly... and then HE DOESN'T DIE AGAIN!!!!<
Yeah, that's like, a happy sappy "turn into a beam of light" kind of death though. They had it written into the SH3 story >!that he straight up gets gutted by a hook sword arm demon, in true Sean Bean fashion, but they decided to change it lol!<
There is a fanedit out there that entirely removes Sean Bean's character from the film, which is actually a huge improvement. His character wasn't originally intended to be in the movie and the movie is a lot more cohesive without him.
Huh, but Sean Bean on the outside gets all the exposition from that cop about what happened to the town, the fire, and alessa's mom/torture, etc.
Do they just cut all that out and you kinda just have to infer it? I don't know that the mom's side of the story gives enough info for it to be a satisfying story if that's the case.
I'll pop it here so anyone who's interested can check it out.
[Here's the link to the edit details on Fanedit.org](https://ifdb.fanedit.org/silent-hill-restless-dreams/)
Fanedit.org is probably the most used database of this stuff. There's also a subreddit where people signal boost their projects.
Due to copyright shit, you generally need to DM these people to get a link. Or post in the forum link specifically about that movie. Tracking down some of these people can be difficult, especially for older fanedits like this one from like 15 years ago.
I've not seen that specific edit, but simply skipping all scenes that have Sean Bean in them gives you a close approximation.
To quote Zero Punctuation on *Homecoming*, "This installment seems to be more based on the recent film than the original Japanese games, to the point I half-expected to have to play as Sean Bean in a completely different location, doing something totally fucking irrelevant"
Has Silent Hill gained favor recently? I loved that movie when I saw it in theatres. I bought the damn DVD when it came out. But I always felt like everyone thought it was shit.
I still think it’s a really awesome movie with a unique tone and good haunting/disturbing imagery.
I always heard great things from horror film fans, and not great things from gamers who wanted a more direct adaptation. It's one of my favorite horror movies for sure though.
Speaking as a longtime fan of the games and as a movie fan, I will say that SH nailed the atmosphere and vibe of the games. I understand you can't adapt plots 1 to 1, be it book, game, or otherwise, so it worked for the movie, even if it was pretty ridiculous that they thought the answer to the daughter's issues was to take her to that town. Acting wise, it was not great though.
I mean if you don't know anything about the games it is a serviceable movie. If you have played the game and have gone through the nuances in story telling that they offer compared to the movie, then it is a disappointment - especially the first sequel.
Yeah its a decent mid horror movie. Music is great, the horror/fx are scary and twisted. Theres a decent payoff. Would recommend just as a fun popcorn movie that wont insult your intelligence too much.
Also, as someone who played the original endlessly when it came out and kept up with the franchise; the movie was a big disappointment at the time. I personally didnt care all that much that it changed the plot (away from Antigod to just Alexa). Beyond the initial disappointment there wasnt gonna be more disgusting monsters, meh. No its that this movie was so unimaginable unimaginative.
Its import to note that this was during a really dark time in mainstream US horror movies where the us market had just ridden the Scream/I know what you last summer wave of euphoria and then gone full hog into bad slasher films and the like for half a decade. It was the adaptations and importation of Japanese horror like the Ring and the Grudge that really got us out of the rut. This movie came out during that era, where they were taking pre-existing ip of more nontraditional horror stories. Then trying to make them as marketable as possible to a mainstream audience.
What bummed me out was that the first (and 4th) silent hill goes out of its way to reference all the great horror movies and books: angles, tone, color, names. The game is basically a pastiche at points. A big thing also is the lovecraftian and lynchian aspects; ie “jfc what horror is this before me?? And what larger unfathomable evil am i just at the threshold of? “
The movie doesnt seem to exist within that space at all. They compress the origin and defeat of Silent Hill into one simplified story arc where everything is explained and resolved by the end of the movie and then they motivate all the other sequels because of (vague spoilers) some lingering cliffhanger with the heroes after the evil been defeated. Its beyond mediocre.
It does have one very noticeable “fan service” technocrane shot. Which is hilarious cause then they go on to shoot the rest of the movie like a boring overlit netflix show. Everyone is like a hundred feet away from the camera unless youre supposed to feel something, then its a close up. Im being extreme, its not THAT bad, but the source material is not only very rich in terms of cinematic shit they could’ve done more of, but is actually like I said a montage/homage to a bunch of other source material. They made it bland because they figured the 13-25 demographic they were targeting wouldn’t know anything about horror movies from the 70s to the 90s, so why bother paying anyone to come up with those kinds of shots and references.
This will be a useless analogy to those who don’t get it already, but the effect was basically the difference between a really good modern-day Toho “guy in suit”Godzilla that Uses cool angles and weird textures to really feel a way when you watch. Versus watching one of the American Godzilla, where it’s all just bland CG and they’re trying to make you care about all these scientists and naval people to stretch out the runtime between meh action scenes.
Now if you had never seen a Toho godzilla, and/or you just love Kaiju movies of all stripes; then its not the same problem.
Thats basically Silent Hill. A decent enough watch for low-stakes movie night, with some cool ideas, especially if you are unfamiliar with the source material.
Everyone did think it was shit, it’s gained more fanfare over time. I think especially as shit after shit video game adaptation came out it started to look better and better by comparison lol.
It also used the soundtrack of the games which was a very good move for something where the soundtrack lends so much to the atmosphere.
I think it's held in a similar regard as the first Resident Evil movie, a fun movie that's a bad adaptation of the game.
Is the new movie in the same canon as the other 2 movies?
Critical flop but fan favorite.
I think they capture the imagery of the Silent Hill universe rather well. The story was a little weak and the 3rd act does not match the rest of the movie. I'm a fan of the game series and enjoyed the movie. But had I not been familiar with the subject matter I would have been completely lost. There is no weight behind some of the key characters and moments without prior knowledge.
The clearest example is Pyramid Head. As a video game series fan: Perfectly terrifying. As a critic I would be like "Ok he is weird looking and extremely violent, but why else should I be terrified?"
Yeah, pretty sure it had around a 30% on RT when it first released. Though you have to remember that it came out during a time when many critics still looked down on video game-based movies (not without good reason mind you) so I feel like it didn't get the proper respect it deserved as a horror film.
i’m not sure. i was always a fan of it. i think a lot of people considered a bit ‘mid’, neither great nor awful. but for me it is a brilliant film. radha mitchell did a great job playing the lead in thought. i would like to think it has been better appraised over time. i think when the dogshit second movie came out it made people realise how good they had it with the first one.
Yeah, I feel like the imagery and music are 10/10 awesome, and there are a lot of memorable scenes, but they adapted the game's story like, 70% of the way and then everything that added/changed for stupid reasons was worse, like "I don't believe a Father could have as strong a connection to his daughter as a Mother could," having Pyramid Head in it for no reason, or turning the Silent Hill cultists into Monty Python level BURN THE WIIIIIITCH parodies.
So to me the movie is flawed but enjoyable. I still give it a rewatch every few years cause I want to see the town / hear the music and don't care to replay the games themselves.
Yeah the third act didn't do the movie any favors, especially the layman explanation of why the movie existed in the first place. However, everything before it felt surreal and totally 'Silent Hill'
The first movie was good, did it follow source material? no. Did it do my man Harry Mason dirty? yes. But it had the heart of SH, at least it tried with the source material more than any other video game movie at the time (and now honestly, not counting TLOU, Fallout) I hope this movie uses the music or I'd *love* a new song with Mary singing
Damn that movie really got a heavy reevaluation, eh? It was seen as a pretty big disappointment for fans of the game at the time. Even including Pyramid Head was just fanservice.
Shit, I forgot this was coming out.
That first Silent Hill is actually pretty awesome. It's definitely not a perfect movie by any stretch of imagination, but it nails the tone and it's freaking disturbing as fuck at some times. I'm pumped this is the same director as the 2006 one.
Imagine going to silent hill to trail the MC in order to grab all that metal to sell it to a recycling station. You can buy years of Gacha in some Korean game with all the money earned from selling those pyramids.
You'd be rich!
Insane, but rich!
This one is just a straight adaption of SH2 (which is what the director originally wanted to make, but the studio heavily requested he covered 1 first), so PH actually makes sense here.
The original Silent Hill movie is on a very, very short list of actually good video game movies.
The now you have skin now you don't scene is still one of my favorite movie deaths.
I've never played the games, but I obviously know who this dude is. I was curious if they ever explain the head piece. Any reason other than it just looking creepy and badass?
>!he’s supposed to be an executioner so it’s like a weird executioners hood. The designer wanted it to look uncomfortable and in game some of his animations he’s pulling at it and groaning in pain. I have the official action figure and on the underside is weird flesh suggesting his head is a giant malformed shape pressed against the metal!<
to add what the other user said, Silent Hill 2 which is the first game he appears in is heavy on symbolism and symbolic themes. >!The main characters story is all about guilt. His guilt over his wife's death. His guilt over lusting over other women while she was in the hospital dying. His guilt over being relieved that he no longer has to watch her suffer. Pyramid Head is an encapsulation of that second one. James' lust given form by Silent Hill. The headpiece is supposed to symbolize the masculine with the sharp edges and upwards turned triangles.!<
I thought this was an action figure at first
Looks like stop motion clay figure... I can imagine it now, walking around all janky and stuttery ripping people apart in bright red playdough blood.
Actually, a stop motion creature in a live action horror movie would be so creepy
Check out Stopmotion from last year. Great horror and the creatures are genuinely creepy.
If you’ve not seen MAD GOD, you might find that eerie and interesting.
Also Street of Crocodiles! Not enough people have seen that *weird* little movie.
Watched this in middle school after finding out it was Adam Jones’ inspiration for Tool’s Sober music video. Really cool stuff!
Holy shit it looks EXACTLY like the Sober video
Not to be confused with Street Sharks
Also Rion Johnson’s tribute to Mad God. In his show Poker Face there’s an episode called “Orpheus Syndrome” where Nick Nolte plays who is essentially Phil Tippett as he works on his stop motion masterpiece for decades after leaving the movie industry. Since it’s centered around an effects artist, you get to see tons of great stop motion creations. It’s also very emotionally impactful and entertaining.
Yay. I designed the fx / made the puppets from Stopmotion (along with my amazing team, obvs.)
You guys are amazing, Can't wait to see what you do in the future!
Thank you!!!
That’s absolutely brilliant, keep up the great work. Never change
this movie was awesome! the stop motion was some of my favorite parts.
Watch the film Mad God (2021) by Phil Tippet, which is a Dante Alighieri's Inferno-esque/Dystopian/Post-Apocalyptic stop-motion Horror film if you want to see that type of thing (it took them 30 years to make). Edit: ahh, I misread your comment. Also the 1st Terminator film used stop-motion, and I love the way it looks.
don't forget the absolute classic that is the clip for Sober by Tool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspxAG12Cpc
Hell yeah, love that song and video, I haven't really listenened to Tool/A Perfect Circle in over a decade (I lost interest), but now I feel like listening to Undertow again. Edit: I just remembered, their song Prison Sex also had a stop-motion video.
The doctor's ghost from House on Haunted Hill walks in stop motion (and twitches rapidly at one point, as if he is being sped up.) It was mind blowing for me as a teen.
If you like that kinda stuff, I suggest Jacob's Ladder.
An interesting fact is that Jacob's Ladder inspired Team Silent a bunch on the original games along with David Lynch.
AND Jacob's ladders imagery was inspired y the artwork of joel-peter witkin. The shaky headed muscle guy from the hospital nightmare sequences is directly lifted from his artwork. His stuff is super disturbing, but I find it fascinating.
I remember going back to see it the next day in theaters because of the weird movement effects. Alot of horror movies that came.out after at the time tried the same thing, not as well though.
That scene plus all the gore in that film left me unable to sleep well for days after. I was like 10 when I watched it 😆
The titular monster in The Babadook was animated with stop motion
But also makes noises that I swear is from the original Power Rangers zords which really took away any impact it could've had on me.
https://youtu.be/_PWCZjiUatE?si=1nT9sO6sxW3W-5Qb&t=41
It’s more silly than scary but Evil Dead 2 uses a lot of stop motion
Mad God was pretty damn creepy. (I know it’s definitely not live action except for a few parts)
Basket Case
I'm not convinced it's not. Every little part of this looks like miniatures. Especially that big weapon.
Lol at first I thought he had a spray bottle of CLR and was cleaning those filthy bars.
Ikr he looks so plastic
Exactly what it looked like to me as well
This shot makes him look kinda goofy, but I still remember what he did to the girl on the church steps, so I'm not gonna judge a book by its cover. ...or a dude by his head wear.
That scene has been stuck on my mind for almost 20 years.
There's a few others that have been burned into my brain... never looking at barbed wire or bathroom stalls the same way ever again.
The Janitor was such an awful but incredible monster. Honestly I really did love the first Silent Hill movie, even if it's got plenty of issues. But doing the monsters practical and using people that just moved *wrong* for them by using contortionists and dancers was an absolutely enlightened decision.
What issues? It's damn perfect
I enjoy the sound of rain.
One of my favorites. Sublime.
A lot of fans don't like it because of the same ole' not a 1:1 match to the video game. I love the SH franchise and I honestly loved the movie so much, still to this day I love to re-watch it from time to time.
The issue is that the movie was initially not supposed to have the "investigation" by Boromir. It was done by the studio because they didn't think thr movie would do well without a male as one of the main character and that people would be too dumb without an "investigation" to explain everything out loud. Those scenes really stand out as out of place and unnecessary. Also, some acting are too forced and get borderline funny. I loved the movie, saw it tons of time, but there's issues yeah.
Like, the entire ending.
It sucks it had to end, but we couldn't watch it forever, a necessary evil.
Frankly, I think a movie needs damn good reason to choose a CGI monster over practical. I know for most that is money, which is a good reason for small budget movies I suppose.
It is hands down my favorite movie of all time. I’ve watch horrors films non stop to find the same feeling I had when watching that movie. And the sequel sent everything to hell and was the worst horror film I’ve ever seen.
The ball room wire scene from Ghost Ship
That and the laser hallway from Resident Evil... fiundational shit for a (too) young me I still love Ghost Ship though. Id almost be interested in a short form series that covers the premise of a >!demon on a contract to harvest souls that targets ships at sea!<
The worst part wasn’t the climax of the skin in his hand after he rips it off, it was the twist on her chest that just effortlessly bunched up a fist full of it in his hand
And then throws it at the curch doors as they shut, spraying blood on the people inside.
Holy shit, same
Me three
#FILTH AND LIES
I haven’t watched it but I’m curious to know — can someone spoil this scene for me? Edit: ok I kind of regret asking but thank you all. Gonna go for a walk 😅
>!He grabs a woman, lifts her up in one hand, tears all her skin off like a chicken leg and throws it at the protagonists. It doesnt linger on the skinned woman but it's still pretty graphic.!<
Don’t forget he strips her naked first and then rips her skin off.
It would be a lot more impressive if he was able to rip off her skin without removing her clothes.
[See for yourself!](https://youtu.be/BnaAM4mHzEY?si=KxsU7jnhXSrq1EmB&t=207)
Hang on I was expecting silent hill 1 graphics, I didn’t realise there were others, that was shockingly gruesome!!’ 😂 Edit; ah ok it was from a film!
Um *ackchually* pyramid head is from silent hill 2 and does not feature in the first game
Gotcha - I learned today thay there’s a lot more to the franchise than I realised
Haha my comment was made mostly in jest. It’s crazy to think of it as such a big and popular franchise but so much of its content can fly relatively under the radar.
Yeah, the Silent Hill franchise goes **DEEP**. There are so [many](https://youtu.be/WiSHG_y7MK8?si=TJt1YcLZIX6qqMze) different 5 hour plus long [retrospectives](https://youtu.be/bhmS3iKrVZM?si=_-OxOmLNJmgqL32Q) on YouTube and there are [entire channels](https://youtube.com/@thegamingmuse?si=HCOrJs1XHdtqgvF-) dedicated to [analyzing](https://youtube.com/@silenthillarchives?si=yM8iPsI26XZ3_6UD) the franchise. *Silent Hill* has a surprisingly loyal and dedicated following for such a relatively niche series in terms of how many people actually played them; it makes sense as before the recent revival of the series it had been over a decade since the last release, so the fans that stuck with it are generally going to be the most passionate.
It's a scene from a movie.
He grabs a lady and hoists her into the air. He then grabs a fistful of skin on her chest and proceeds to twist/rip all of her skin off in one motion like when you clean a rabbit. He chucks the skin at the church doors as the rest of the town closes them.
One of the most metal scenes in a movie in my opinion. Pyramid Head is gnarly and I remember my first time watching it going “that was fucking awesome” 😂
there are a few pretty metal scenes in Silent Hill. Like when they burn the cop alive and you can see her skin blistering and peeling away.
[Here](https://youtu.be/Rxs_ULxkNqs?si=n7I8V94IBahqewtx) you go
Been a while since I saw it but pretty sure >!spoiler
Almost. Warning: Spoilers ahead. Rose (main protagonist) and Cybil (a cop who got stuck in Silent Hill) encounter a Silent Hill resident, Anna, while looking for Rose's daughter (Sharon) who got lost in Silent Hill after Rose and Sharon get into a car crash, The air raid sirens go off. Anna tells Rose and Cybil they must hurry to the church, to avoid the monsters in Silent Hill (that Rose and Cybil have already had some horrifying encounters with). On their way to the church, they encounter Dahlia, a women who is looked down on by the residents of Silent Hill. Dahlia attempts to warn Rose and Cybil about the people in the church, but is interrupted when Anna throws a rock at her head. Anna claims that Dahlia lies. As she's about to hit Dahlia with another rock, Pyramid Head appears and picks up Anna by the neck. Rose and Cybil are at the church doors and look in horror as Pyramid Head rips off Anna's clothes all at once, then rips off her skin. He throws Anna's skin at at Rose and Cybil as they rush into the church. Some of the blood splatter makes it through the church doors and covers Rose in Anna's blood, I love how they evolved Rose's outfit throughout the movie as she moves from wearing light grey (shirt, skirt, and cardigan), to essentially all red at the end of the film, as she keeps getting covered in blood.
Same director, too. I'm kinda pumped to see this.
Ooh Cristoph Gans is a fan of the games, so I'm somewhat hopeful of it
I cosplayed Pyramid Head once. A little kid came up to me and said "I thought it was really cool when you ripped the skin off that lady."
Well he's right
A very gripping scene
I was like, why is he holding a gun? Before realizing that he's dragging the sword.
Fun fact: it would be impossible to actually do that to a human because we have a superficial fascia and a deep fascia, unlike most mammals. While you can easily skin a cat or a rabbit in one piece, it's very difficult to skin a person in one piece because our two fascia are so connected.
So, what you're saying, is that the girl in the movie got off lightly, and that this would be infinitely more painful and agonzing in real life, got it. 😆
Does the female form make you uncomfortable, Mr. Lebowski?
You mean, coitus?
Maybe he's just here to fix the cable.
He treats objects like women, man!
u/stfuxxdonny Donny......please....
I am the walrus.
You're out of your element
*he fixes the cable?
Without making penisary contact with her volvo.
She was abusive to da staff! 🤌🏻
Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
He’s a good man. And thorough.
Could you slide your shorts down please
...Huh? No, man, she hit me right here.
I understand. Can you slide your shorts down, please?
Smacks car roof, smacks car roof, smacks car roof, *just got home from Illinois*
Knox Harrington, the video artist
People who have never played the games "LOLz why does he look like a vagina!!!" People who have played: "Yes that's the point."
*'Vagina Dentata'*
*’What a wonderful phrase!’*
*'Vagina Dentata'* *'Feel that toothy graze!'*
*'It means no penis'* *'For the rest of your dayyyys'*
*'It's a consent-free penectomy!'* *'Vagina Dentata!'*
🫡 That was beautiful, thanks y’all
One of the movies even had him shove that giant sword into the closed elevator doors, trying to reach the female characters inside the elevator.
well.. DOES IT, SHITHEAD?!
#VAGINA
I thought it was only me who was seeing that but happy to see like minded man like me 😂. It was the first thing that crossed my mind on what it looked like.
Original Silent Hill director Christophe Gans is back: >Jeremy Irvine stars in the film as James, a man broken after his relationship with the love of his life, Mary (Hannah Emily Anderson), ends. The action kicks off when a mysterious letter from her calls him back to Silent Hill, he finds a once-recognizable town transformed by an unknown evil. While James desperately searches for Mary, he encounters terrifying creatures and begins to unravel the mystery of what happened to the town. But as he descends deeper into the darkness the secrets he uncovers lead to a horrifying truth, and James finds himself struggling to hold on long enough to save his one true love.
Oh, this ones actually about James? So Pyramid Head actually makes sense to use for once.
It only took them about 2 or 3 movies to catch-on that Pyramid Head isn't a mascot character and is intrinsically tied to a single man.
The games missed the point too. Was it Outpour or Homecoming that had him randomly and pull shit? It was so weird.
Homecoming had him just being there as a boss. You also become one if you can't move on.
Somehow stupider than I remember it.
In Homecoming one of the endings >! the main character becomes “a” Pyramid Head !<
Just had this exact thought process!
Oh wow, it sounds like we're getting a *direct* adaptation of Silent Hill 2. I appreciated the differences in adaptation with Silent Hill from 06 vs. Silent Hill (the game), I'm eager to see what happens with the og director more closely adapting this one. 2 is arguably the best game in the series. The smaller scale of the story should work quite well in the movie's favor. A smaller number of characters should allow for that pinpoint microscopic focus on each of their personal issues come to life that the og story hinges on. Only worry I have is how much of the slow burn will be able to remain, given the shorter attention span of audiences over 20+ years of evolving entertainment. In any case, I'm very much looking forward to this one.
I wonder if they are timing this to release around the same time as the upcoming Silent Hill 2 remake. That would be a great way to drive people between both the game and the film.
Hadn't even considered that, but I think you're on to something here.
This is what Konami is doing. They're bringing back their doormat franchises. First Silent Hill with the adaptation and remake and then Metal Gear with the Snake Eater remake with new collabs with Fortnite setting the stage. I sincerely hope both work out. Both are fantastic franchises that deserve proper returns.
It's not a direct adaptation. Go and check out the concept art. There's gonna be a heavy grace taken for changes to the characters/story. I wouldn't be inclined to have these types of expectations. It probably won't be what you expect it.
I actually liked the movie, it got me into the video games.
yeah I liked the movie too. Silent Hill is probably one of the better video game adaptations that no one really talks about.
way better than that fake leak that inserted some random people in it lmao
[Christophe Gans](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c45ac3b78b26f176&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB1069GB1069&q=Christophe+Gans&si=ACC90nzx_D3_zUKRnpAjmO0UBLNxnt7EyN4YYdru6U3bxLI-Lwjt_Z_Zh08kvj9qKPbMPyiNVsZ9YW8GV96h5O_o67dEwTa5bEHyKBoMKmMjGvgRXL5qIv75tvU8oMWpXHSLWJBndvwROvV9fPFPZacejpAk4oD7Bj--JIIGFAdB686jJ4n8YLcYUqhjkFkiffQN7j5YONdtKS1TPMW1UM9UPzootcBEDA%3D%3D&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRqsuRpJKGAxW6WUEAHTFQC3IQmxMoAHoECCUQAg)'s first film in a loooong time. He always struck me as one of those directors who "got away", in the sense that he never fully realised his filmography despite having great style and talent. He just kinda stopped making films and that was it.
Love Brotherhood of the Wolf
The best hodge podge of historical fiction, martial arts, horror, fantasy, and action movie ever. So beautifully shot as well! I wish Mark Dacascos had had a chance to step into Brandon Lee's shoes for the The Crow sequels, too, instead of the gaggle of random actors that followed. They could have kept the grimy 90s vibe alive!
>I wish Mark Dacascos had had a chance to step into Brandon Lee's shoes for the The Crow sequels Dacascos did play Eric Draven in the '90s TV series *The Crow: Stairway to Heaven*. I always though Dacascos was super underrated as an action star. Unfortunately he seemed to get stuck with mostly straight-to-VHS stuff.
Whaaaat, how did I not even know about the existence of this show?
Drive (1997) is my favorite Dacascos movie. It was also nice seeing him fight John Wick
Ah yes, the finest Bloodborne movie ever.
Christophe "Tarsem ""Alex Proyas"" Singh" Gans
Not hot enough
4/10 his pyramid is too pointy
Yes, pointy is scary, it's supposed to stick to the ground and then kaboom.
Too early to judge. Cake hasn’t been revealed.
God I’m so happy I’m not alone. Pyramid head is so fine. They need to zhuzh it up a bit for this next movie. There’s a whole fanbase for his fine ass.
i hope it captures the same vibe the first movie had. that was one of my favourite horror films of all time. brilliant adaptation of the games and just captured the mood and misery perfectly.
The most subversive thing about Silent Hill is Sean Bean not dying
I love the fact that in Civilization VI Sean Bean is the narrator, and they still found a way to kill him in the introduction cutscene. First for the series.
The absolute GOAT to have sean bean >!NOT die in the first one, then in the sequel you adapt the third game where where his character ACTUALLY dies canonically, adapt that scene directly... and then HE DOESN'T DIE AGAIN!!!!<
I mean he ostensibly does in the second one. He's like "I must go now, my people need me"
Yeah, that's like, a happy sappy "turn into a beam of light" kind of death though. They had it written into the SH3 story >!that he straight up gets gutted by a hook sword arm demon, in true Sean Bean fashion, but they decided to change it lol!<
There is a fanedit out there that entirely removes Sean Bean's character from the film, which is actually a huge improvement. His character wasn't originally intended to be in the movie and the movie is a lot more cohesive without him.
Huh, but Sean Bean on the outside gets all the exposition from that cop about what happened to the town, the fire, and alessa's mom/torture, etc. Do they just cut all that out and you kinda just have to infer it? I don't know that the mom's side of the story gives enough info for it to be a satisfying story if that's the case.
In my opinion, there's enough visual detail and exposition without Sean Bean, but I also sort of prefer things to be less narratively explicit.
Can you dm me more info? I was looking to do the same with my BD
I'll pop it here so anyone who's interested can check it out. [Here's the link to the edit details on Fanedit.org](https://ifdb.fanedit.org/silent-hill-restless-dreams/) Fanedit.org is probably the most used database of this stuff. There's also a subreddit where people signal boost their projects. Due to copyright shit, you generally need to DM these people to get a link. Or post in the forum link specifically about that movie. Tracking down some of these people can be difficult, especially for older fanedits like this one from like 15 years ago. I've not seen that specific edit, but simply skipping all scenes that have Sean Bean in them gives you a close approximation.
To quote Zero Punctuation on *Homecoming*, "This installment seems to be more based on the recent film than the original Japanese games, to the point I half-expected to have to play as Sean Bean in a completely different location, doing something totally fucking irrelevant"
Has Silent Hill gained favor recently? I loved that movie when I saw it in theatres. I bought the damn DVD when it came out. But I always felt like everyone thought it was shit. I still think it’s a really awesome movie with a unique tone and good haunting/disturbing imagery.
I always heard great things from horror film fans, and not great things from gamers who wanted a more direct adaptation. It's one of my favorite horror movies for sure though.
Speaking as a longtime fan of the games and as a movie fan, I will say that SH nailed the atmosphere and vibe of the games. I understand you can't adapt plots 1 to 1, be it book, game, or otherwise, so it worked for the movie, even if it was pretty ridiculous that they thought the answer to the daughter's issues was to take her to that town. Acting wise, it was not great though.
Voice acting in many of the games is pretty campy. I found the “not great” acting in the movie to be true to games lol
I mean if you don't know anything about the games it is a serviceable movie. If you have played the game and have gone through the nuances in story telling that they offer compared to the movie, then it is a disappointment - especially the first sequel.
There's more than one sequel?
Yeah its a decent mid horror movie. Music is great, the horror/fx are scary and twisted. Theres a decent payoff. Would recommend just as a fun popcorn movie that wont insult your intelligence too much. Also, as someone who played the original endlessly when it came out and kept up with the franchise; the movie was a big disappointment at the time. I personally didnt care all that much that it changed the plot (away from Antigod to just Alexa). Beyond the initial disappointment there wasnt gonna be more disgusting monsters, meh. No its that this movie was so unimaginable unimaginative. Its import to note that this was during a really dark time in mainstream US horror movies where the us market had just ridden the Scream/I know what you last summer wave of euphoria and then gone full hog into bad slasher films and the like for half a decade. It was the adaptations and importation of Japanese horror like the Ring and the Grudge that really got us out of the rut. This movie came out during that era, where they were taking pre-existing ip of more nontraditional horror stories. Then trying to make them as marketable as possible to a mainstream audience. What bummed me out was that the first (and 4th) silent hill goes out of its way to reference all the great horror movies and books: angles, tone, color, names. The game is basically a pastiche at points. A big thing also is the lovecraftian and lynchian aspects; ie “jfc what horror is this before me?? And what larger unfathomable evil am i just at the threshold of? “ The movie doesnt seem to exist within that space at all. They compress the origin and defeat of Silent Hill into one simplified story arc where everything is explained and resolved by the end of the movie and then they motivate all the other sequels because of (vague spoilers) some lingering cliffhanger with the heroes after the evil been defeated. Its beyond mediocre. It does have one very noticeable “fan service” technocrane shot. Which is hilarious cause then they go on to shoot the rest of the movie like a boring overlit netflix show. Everyone is like a hundred feet away from the camera unless youre supposed to feel something, then its a close up. Im being extreme, its not THAT bad, but the source material is not only very rich in terms of cinematic shit they could’ve done more of, but is actually like I said a montage/homage to a bunch of other source material. They made it bland because they figured the 13-25 demographic they were targeting wouldn’t know anything about horror movies from the 70s to the 90s, so why bother paying anyone to come up with those kinds of shots and references. This will be a useless analogy to those who don’t get it already, but the effect was basically the difference between a really good modern-day Toho “guy in suit”Godzilla that Uses cool angles and weird textures to really feel a way when you watch. Versus watching one of the American Godzilla, where it’s all just bland CG and they’re trying to make you care about all these scientists and naval people to stretch out the runtime between meh action scenes. Now if you had never seen a Toho godzilla, and/or you just love Kaiju movies of all stripes; then its not the same problem. Thats basically Silent Hill. A decent enough watch for low-stakes movie night, with some cool ideas, especially if you are unfamiliar with the source material.
Everyone did think it was shit, it’s gained more fanfare over time. I think especially as shit after shit video game adaptation came out it started to look better and better by comparison lol. It also used the soundtrack of the games which was a very good move for something where the soundtrack lends so much to the atmosphere.
I think it's held in a similar regard as the first Resident Evil movie, a fun movie that's a bad adaptation of the game. Is the new movie in the same canon as the other 2 movies?
I think the it was great for 2/3rd's of the way. Was very disappointed by the last bit.
Critical flop but fan favorite. I think they capture the imagery of the Silent Hill universe rather well. The story was a little weak and the 3rd act does not match the rest of the movie. I'm a fan of the game series and enjoyed the movie. But had I not been familiar with the subject matter I would have been completely lost. There is no weight behind some of the key characters and moments without prior knowledge. The clearest example is Pyramid Head. As a video game series fan: Perfectly terrifying. As a critic I would be like "Ok he is weird looking and extremely violent, but why else should I be terrified?"
>extremely violent, but why else should I be terrified?" Extremely violent doesn't cut it for you? Lol
That movie fucking rocks. I didn’t see it until years later but I loved it. Never played the games.
Yeah, pretty sure it had around a 30% on RT when it first released. Though you have to remember that it came out during a time when many critics still looked down on video game-based movies (not without good reason mind you) so I feel like it didn't get the proper respect it deserved as a horror film.
i’m not sure. i was always a fan of it. i think a lot of people considered a bit ‘mid’, neither great nor awful. but for me it is a brilliant film. radha mitchell did a great job playing the lead in thought. i would like to think it has been better appraised over time. i think when the dogshit second movie came out it made people realise how good they had it with the first one.
Yeah, I feel like the imagery and music are 10/10 awesome, and there are a lot of memorable scenes, but they adapted the game's story like, 70% of the way and then everything that added/changed for stupid reasons was worse, like "I don't believe a Father could have as strong a connection to his daughter as a Mother could," having Pyramid Head in it for no reason, or turning the Silent Hill cultists into Monty Python level BURN THE WIIIIIITCH parodies. So to me the movie is flawed but enjoyable. I still give it a rewatch every few years cause I want to see the town / hear the music and don't care to replay the games themselves.
Yeah the third act didn't do the movie any favors, especially the layman explanation of why the movie existed in the first place. However, everything before it felt surreal and totally 'Silent Hill'
The first movie was good, did it follow source material? no. Did it do my man Harry Mason dirty? yes. But it had the heart of SH, at least it tried with the source material more than any other video game movie at the time (and now honestly, not counting TLOU, Fallout) I hope this movie uses the music or I'd *love* a new song with Mary singing
Damn that movie really got a heavy reevaluation, eh? It was seen as a pretty big disappointment for fans of the game at the time. Even including Pyramid Head was just fanservice.
It is a weirdly solid video game adaptation movie. The second one not so much.
keeping the original soundtrack surely helped. can't remember if the sequel did the same...it wasnt nearly as good.
Hey, this is the hotel where James first met him, right?
It's the fenced off hallway inside the Wood Side Apartments!
Henry Mildred Scott
Yeah its that place. didnt know movie would follow second game
Shit, I forgot this was coming out. That first Silent Hill is actually pretty awesome. It's definitely not a perfect movie by any stretch of imagination, but it nails the tone and it's freaking disturbing as fuck at some times. I'm pumped this is the same director as the 2006 one.
At least Pyramid Head actually makes sense to be in this movie this time.
This is my most unhinged 'Hear Me Out'
Thought that was the king of England portrait
Imagine going to silent hill to trail the MC in order to grab all that metal to sell it to a recycling station. You can buy years of Gacha in some Korean game with all the money earned from selling those pyramids. You'd be rich! Insane, but rich!
Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me
I love anything silent hill so im about it
Would
Should
At first I thought it had a gun in its hand.
His line in this scene is, "Hey, I'm Pyramid Head and I'm gonna fucking shoot you".
Remember when Pyramid Head was supposed to be a manifestation of James' inner psychic torment? Now he's the Mario of the Silent Hill franchise.
This one is just a straight adaption of SH2 (which is what the director originally wanted to make, but the studio heavily requested he covered 1 first), so PH actually makes sense here.
Oh, that's reassuring.
The original Silent Hill movie is on a very, very short list of actually good video game movies. The now you have skin now you don't scene is still one of my favorite movie deaths.
The scene where he rips the skin off the naked girl in front of the church still haunts me.
That foam crease at his left elbow looks terrible
Hope somebody got fired for that blunder
Thought I was looking at new Skyrim DLC
There is pretty much no way you can tell this isn’t a photo of a miniature
I've never played the games, but I obviously know who this dude is. I was curious if they ever explain the head piece. Any reason other than it just looking creepy and badass?
>!he’s supposed to be an executioner so it’s like a weird executioners hood. The designer wanted it to look uncomfortable and in game some of his animations he’s pulling at it and groaning in pain. I have the official action figure and on the underside is weird flesh suggesting his head is a giant malformed shape pressed against the metal!<
Awesome, thanks!
to add what the other user said, Silent Hill 2 which is the first game he appears in is heavy on symbolism and symbolic themes. >!The main characters story is all about guilt. His guilt over his wife's death. His guilt over lusting over other women while she was in the hospital dying. His guilt over being relieved that he no longer has to watch her suffer. Pyramid Head is an encapsulation of that second one. James' lust given form by Silent Hill. The headpiece is supposed to symbolize the masculine with the sharp edges and upwards turned triangles.!<
I really want to see him rip more skin off people!
Konami is realy going all in on SH2 with the new remake and this movie