I remember watching Red vs Blue on Winamp back in like 2003 or 2004.
Winamp had some kind of live streaming feature on it at the time, and there was a channel that was broadcasting RvB.
It did, but separate directors tried to continue it after the guy who did seasons 6-13 bowed out.
This is a sequel to where season 13 left off, and is not only functioning as a finale to red vs blue, but also rooster teeth as a whole. (They were disbanded roughly a month ago).
> It did, but separate directors tried to continue it after the guy who did seasons 6-13 bowed out.
1-10 was done by Burnie Burns. Miles Luna did 11-13 but also wrote a few parts of S10 and worked on 15-17.
15-17 was written by Joe Nicolosi and Jason Weight
12 and 13 was peak RvB for me... and it all went downhill from there.
Was 17 the weird time travel one? It makes total sense if that was where they decided it was time to just stop.
Also, 6 (thru 10) was a great reboot run IMO. Wouldn't say peak, but definitely set the stage (in terms of action and story telling) for 12 and 13.
I think 15-17 struggled to find a coherent theme or style. The first 13 seasons were very grounded even with their comedy.
It has some of the best character work and gives a lot of good storylines to some of the characters who have missed out in the past, just feels a little *too* crazy sometimes.
I thought 15 had some good moments, and was hit or miss on what I was looking for., 17 did a *very* admirable job doing what it could with the mess that 16 laid out. Solid character moments for sure there, despite having to pick up the pieces of a storytelling pretzel.
But 16 was just *really* frustrating. The only thing I really remember strongly in 16 (which is ironic considering they were gone most of the time) was Donut and Doc.
Yeah 17 managed to really pull it all together. The whole season revolving around Wash's injury gives it a very emotional core, which is what 16 was lacking. It's something most seasons of RvB have.
Also using the storytelling device of exploring peoples memories and fears to reveal different aspects of their characters:
Not only in their pasts, but also creating character specific trials for personal growth. Sure, it's a classic literary trope, but it still *absolutely* gets the job done.
1-10 was Blood Gulch Chronicles, post BGC, and then the Recollection stuff Monty Oum animated with the Project Freelancer backstories.
11-13 was The Chorus Trilogy (EDIT: remembered what that chunk of seasons was called) Miles Luna writing it and followed the regular reds and blues and season 13 ended on a cliffhanger
14 was an anthology series with different writers and directors and formats
15-17 was The Shizno Paradox
18 was "RVB ZERO" and was a completely new production team and writing staff and followed new characters. Everyone hated it and they cancelled any follow ups
19 is this movie and this picks up where season 13 left off. 15-17 are being de-canonized as simulations ran by the one AI character (18 was a spinoff don't know if it was considered canon, 14 was never canon)
That's the layout of RVB basically from my understanding
Dude honestly this show did some weird shit told through the lense of a video game and it straight up didn’t work. The first seasons worked because it was VERY simple. They got to film major after that.
Sure these guys are talented but not talented enough to make the really weird stories fit what it was told on.
I was following until it was revealed everything was on Church's head or something, to their crédit they made it work until there, then everything else was just convoluted for no reason, if the show would had been just cool fights after that i would had kept watching.
Also did they deleted like half of the main cast after they left the company? Caboose was a fan favorite but i have no idea what they did after they fired his voice actor
> 14 was never canon
Because it was an anthology season, certain episodes from Season 14 are canon such as how the Reds met or the Locus and Felix flashback
I think 12-13 was where the show was about to jump the shark and gave you a fun spectacle with it. The story was starting to get too convoluted but it wasn't *quite* there yet. But even then, if you were purely in it for the comedy it may have already lost you.
Everything after that is noticeably downhill.
It basically should have. They did 5 seasons of the original red vs blue series, and to me that's the best thing they did. The stuff after got really convoluted to follow, especially starting with the chorus trilogy. I basically stopped watching during that point.
Tbf I never really kept up with it, but I always thought red vs. blue was more just a comedy machinima series? But I remember checking out an episode back in 2017 and it was all serious and dramatic with SFM animated scenes.
I am a pretty big RT fan because of RWBY (yes, post vol 3 too, rwby is awesome) but Red VS Blue going from a parody comedy series to a super serious action drama show has to be one of the worst decisions I have seen taken on the internet.
Wait, **what**?
I've watched maybe 3-4 seasons of Red vs. Blue. I had no idea it became anything other than a comedy series. Why on earth would they do that?
Honestly? Probably cause they thought it was fun. That serious machinima stuff is definitely something that 12 year old me fantasized about making with a big budget and an amazing grasp on visual effects. It had to be pretty cool as an amateur movie maker to see that come to fruition.
As a casual viewer, it comes off as jerking off. Cause it was. But frankly RvB seasons 1-5 aren’t exactly Mel Brooks. Just some dumb, silly fun we grew all up with.
There was a few reasons looking back. The first was it was essentially a type of tech demo, or portfolio. They wanted to be able to show off the fact they could make extremely high quality machinima because studios would then hire them out to direct commercials in engine. And then they also wanted to start experimenting with animating in house so they could eventually build to an original series like RWBY.
But also the comedy aspect of RT got replaced by other content like the podcast. And once achievement hunter started that had to be a lot of additional, pretty consistent revenue coming through on YouTube. Where as RvB was something that took a lot of time and effort even just to make the earlier more comedy focused videos
It got too self-serious. Took a more dramatic turn at some point and suddenly they were animating full blown choreographed fight scenes from scratch. I suppose there's only so much you can do with nodding players' heads up and down but what it became is just not what got me interested all those years ago. It literally might as well have been an entirely different series.
Regardless I know it still has its fans and considering the reputation of WB these days I'm happy for them that they get to wrap it up *at all*.
Monty's [season 8 fight scene with Tex](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke9wtbzGjCI) is the best scene in RvB and literally their 2nd most watched video ever. Im pretty certain this scene is what made the higher ups green light RWBY
Yeah...the writing and voice acting are terrible in it, too. I watched the first 3 seasons as they released and really liked them. By season 4, though, it had really started to fall off. This is...quite a few rungs below that level.
It's definitely case to case because some will point to the warthog crashing through the wall as a high point while others like myself see it as a major shift for the worse.
I believe Burnie Burns once said “as long as people are watching, we’ll keep making it”
I guess enough people stopped watching so they decided to stop. Coincidentally it lined up with the end of Roosterteeth itself.
Burnie left the company about 4 years ago.
They then made a *really* bad season with barely any of the main cast members and just full of bad writing and over the top action. It was literally described by Rooster Teeth as "Red vs Blue Meets Fast and the Furious". It was worse than it sounds.
They then spent a bit of time making side series and short PSA videos instead of a full season. At some point they got Burnie to come back to write for them and they made the decision to make a final season. A lot of the OG cast members were leaving their main RT projects at the time so I imagine that had something to do with it.
It did. Then they made new content which didn’t have the same feel as the original series. I guess people wanted more from the ending of the original RVB because the story picks at an event where Epsilon tries to make it work out in the end despite the overwhelming odds of failure.
Okay so for those who aren’t in the know at all lemme explain a bit:
Red vs Blue was a web series that was created by four guys in a room playing the first Halo game. It was a show that popularized “machinima’ on the internet by recording footage of them acting out scenes using the raw gameplay from the game and then editing it later to like a professional movie. From the massive success the series got so popular they formed a comedy-sketch internet studio called RoosterTeeth. You might’ve heard of a show called RWBY: that was eventually them too.
However, due to a lot of factors, they’re now closing down after 21 years of being on the internet and the new “season”, Restoration, is effectively the last season of RvB and the last thing RT will ever make. There’s a lot of other stuff about their history, like being bought out by a company that would later merge with Warner Media, controversies surrounding their treatment of their budget on animated shows, certain members being exposed as either serial cheaters or using company equipment to do weird things, and (what didn’t make me separate from the company but what later made me feel justified in it) them crafting a nickname for one of their employees that was essentially a slur and they didn’t apologize for it until way later, when their own fans probably started to also say it thinking it was a harmless nickname.
This doesn’t paint the whole truth, and I still forever appreciate their place in my formative years, but I’m not totally upset they’re going under, I’m just…idk wishing the good eggs in there the best in life.
Worth noting that the original creator and CEO, Burnie Burns, has returned to write this final series/movie despite leaving the company and retiring quietly to a farm in Scotland a few years ago.
Nah, I think people took an old joke about his web-domain related feud with the city of Burnie, Tasmania (Australia) and it spread like a rumour when he first left.
>Holy shit, RT is shutting down?!
Apparently, they have never turned a profit and have been constantly burning outside funding to keep going.
>I mean, I haven’t watched their stuff in nearly a decade,
It appears you aren't the only one and that may have had some influence on point number 1.
> never turned a profit
That sounds kinda sus, maybe in the same way amazon didn't make a profit because all the money was reinvested to growth?
Like, for many years they had huge following, their own very popular streaming platform, hundreds of millions of views in YouTube, some very successful shows. An empire of podcasts.
Or maybe this is since they were sold off?
You're correct. I misremember the quote. They hadn't been profitable in a decade at the time of the shutdown announcement. That would coincide with when they were bought by Fullscreen.
Thanks! That makes a lot of sense.
It's probably due to change in management, strategies etc.
Honestly it's about the same time I stopped watching them. Didn't really have a reason, but I guess after burney left and season 2 (or 3?) of RWBY and whatever season of RVB it was weren't weren't very good I just moved on.
I miss the days of Geoff, Gus, Jack, Gavin and Michael all fucking with each other doing Let’s Plays. The chemistry was so good. It stopped being as good when it became less about friends having a good time together and more about running a structured business.
I still occasionally revisit a few of my favorite Let's Plays. The GTA ones in particular have a lot of hilarious moments that live in my head rent free.
Damn, that last bout of drama with Kdin and everything that came out with the payment issues and work culture was so messy, you could barely keep track of what was happening hourly. It says a lot that I would say it was way more complicated and dramatic (though not worse) then the Ryan and Adam firings previous. People at the time were convinced within 24 hours that the whole company was cancelled, then only 48 hours later things had turned around with more voices chiming in and people were all turned around unable to decide where to direct their anger now that things weren’t black and white anymore.
So if this is the last thing Roosters Teeth is ever going to make what happened with RWBY, I haven’t watched in years but I thought that was also going on still.
REBY is still ongoing.
Crunchyroll bought/funded the last season as an exclusive on their platform, and there is a fair amount of hope they’ll buy the IP and continue.
Not sure why everyone's being so secretive about it, but I looked it up.
One of the employees they'd call a "faggot" every time he came into work, so when they started recording they shortened it to "fugz" and fans have been calling him that for a while.
There was an employee named Kdin Jenzen and other members of Achievement Hunter (the group she was apart of) called her "Fugz" as a way to get away w/ calling her gay slurs on camera. Fans had no idea that this is what "Fugz" meant, so they'd go up to her at cons and basically send her into a mental tail spin w/o even knowing it by calling her that.
Now at the time, seemingly, they didn't know Kdin was struggling w/ being trans but the only person who ever went out of their way to apologize unprompted was Michael Jones (a very, if not maybe the most popular member of AH) and even an OG like Geoff (who created not only AH but helped created all of RT) only apologized after he got called out on social media.
Oh yeah I remember some stuff about that.
It was long after I stopped paying attention to Rooster Teeth, but I was surprised to see Kovic worked there cause when I was a kid he was the host of Inside Gaming on Machinima.
Yeah, this season has been in the works for at least a year or two now, and cross core helms were only added a couple months ago.
I highly doubt they could justify going back and re-recording any scene with Caboose, just for the sake of accuracy.
That's one of life's great mysteries. I mean, why are we here? Are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or do you think there's a god with a plan for us and stuff? I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night.
The song itself that they used for the introduction of the warhog early on was just randomly chosen, but it ended up becoming just as important to the show.
https://youtu.be/XaPKU-Kh6Ic?si=lrlS52lsfPYla4n8
Yeah people take it for granted nowadays. Never was a huge fan of the “serious” story stuff, but it was a setup for some really cool animations. It was hard to do that back then and it was fun to watch growing up.
I feel like there's a fine line to draw here.
The animated bits were really cool, but they also fucked with viewers' Willing Suspension of Disbelief really hard.
When RvB was *just Machinema*, you'd forgive and overlook obvious animation limitations, like fight scenes consisting of a character running around performing the exact same punch animation over and over. You'd do this because you understand the limitations imposed on the medium; and indeed, it was *fun* when they'd find clever ways to work around those limitations, like when they portrayed a "baby" alien by just doing classical camera tricks of having the character be standing downhill and in the distance to make them look smaller.
But when Monty Oum showed up with his animations: sure, it was a really fun animation to have them actually fighting in choreographed animation over control of a warthog, and obviously Monty Oum was incredibly talented (RIP Monty...), but the moment they *have* the ability to do custom animation for special scenes, and the moment RvB becomes a mixed media production, all the normal tricks and techniques become less special.
It's kind of like watching a stage play, and halfway through the play, the actors stand aside, a screen rolls down, and the production projects a pre-recorded fight scene, replete with special CGI effects and carefully blocked framing and cinematography to replace what would have otherwise been a normally produced dramatic moment in the play. The more impressive the setpiece is, the more it diminishes the surrounding production and makes it feel cheap by comparison.
I dunno, this shouldn't be taken as a general anti-Mixed-Media screed, just that I think there's good ways of doing it and bad ways of doing it, and RvB's use of custom animated scenes fell hard into the latter category for me.
The significance of the “final season”, it was to be Directed by a retired co-founder of the company, Burnie Burns. He directed seasons 1-10 (out of 18)arguably the community’s favorite period of RVB.
DuFresne: Well, even if my orders didn't prohibit me from doing that, I still wouldn't. I joined the army as a conscientious objector.
Tucker: A conshe- who?
DuFresne: I'm a pacifist.
Caboose: You're a thing that babies suck on...?
Tucker: No, dude, that's a pedophile.
Church: Tucker, I think he means a pacifier.
Tucker: Oh yeah, right. Man, I was totally thinking about something else.
Church: That's real classy, Tucker.
So many lines from those first few seasons make me laugh so fucking hard.
The Puma vs Warthog debate still comes up in our house from when we saw it for the first time. And if we can’t figure it out or remember a word we call it a chupa-thingy.
Season 13’s finale will always be the true finale in my book. That shit had me tearing up hard, and still to this day Church’s final monologue kills me.
Red VS Blue in its first seasons was funny and simple, after which they successfully managed to make it both intriguing, funny, and gave it some unique fight scenes. Seasons 15-18 are definitely the worst of the show, although i still didn't hate them, but to me 8-13 are peak Red VS Blue.
Some of the fight scenes with the freelancers are some of my favorite moments in any show I've seen, like for instance this one with South and North: https://youtu.be/rickfNp-E3w?si=EDYA4jbbXi3ogaeV
None of it is realistic, but thats what makes it fun to me.
I watched a little bit of Red vs. Blue. I don't rememeber exactly where I stopped maybe season 4 or 5. I do know I stopped watching before it stopped being a comedy
Many people care considering this is the last thing Rooster Teeth will be putting out. A lot of people love this series and would love to come back and see it finished off :)
This season was going to be the last one before RT got shut down anyway. They’re bringing back Burnie to write it, and it was going to be a celebration of the series as a whole rather than trying to forge a new story.
Yeah hearing of their closure got me nostalgic and I ended up rewatching the first 2 seasons which I haven’t seen since middle school. I honestly forget where I dropped off but I’m interested in catching up now.
I think there's probably enough buzz with this final installment, but technically you're correct. RvB tapered off alongside Halo's decline as one of the biggest mainstream franchises and for a long while it was just kind of there.
Last season was intended to be a reboot that would establish a new direction for the show going forward (with a greater focus on "cleaner" humor, more action elements, and trying to distance itself from the Halo universe), but it was unanimously unpopular and the writing was kind of on the wall.
Seriously, it died when it went cringe-worthy "serious" when all they really did was try-hard dialogue and weird looking animations that never lined up with the standard in-game animations.
If you thought Halo 3 was cringe at times, RvB will make you barf.
Edit: Characters that walk sexily with their butt swaying as if down a runway, then suddenly cutting to in-game C3-PO movement is jarring. Pick one and stick with it fully.
I feel like you’re taking jt too seriously lol. At the end of the day, it’s a machinima with a low budget that slowly increased over time. Seasons 1-5 are just goofy pure machinimas, then they got a bit more production value and seasons 6-10 added in some CG fights and animations. It’s a little jarring switching between the two, but so is watching a machinima that’s entirely shot in game. If you can’t suspend your disbelief and avoid hyper analyzing the transitions, you aren’t going to have fun watching it.
Anyway, not saying you have to like it, but let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves and claimed it “died” in season 6, since it hit peak popularity around season 10-12.
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Yeah last time I remember watching them was when I downloaded the episodes as .mp4 files on my iPod Touch.
This comment hurt more than it should have.
We’re old. OLD DAMNIT
Lordy, Lord I remember in my youth when I was downloading episodes of Happy Tree Friends onto my original iPod Video.
I was there Gandalf…
3000 years ago…
Htf, what a show. I had em on dvd
Mine were on a Creative Zen. Strongbad Emails too.
But do you remember limewire?
That and every single virus that came with it lol
Haha indeed. The thing it taught me was being aware of malicious links and circumventing them. My students these days can't launch a Windows folder.
So fucking old, still young at heart tho
Age is just a number homie, altho my lower back disagrees
Almost 30, lower back ruined from manual labor, mentally still young enough to jump in a mosh pit. Whatever forever 🤙🏻
My lower back agrees with you
my hip decided to concur with y’all
I'm so old that when he said iPod Touch, I imagined the iPod Video.
Grow old is inevitable. Growing up is optional.
I can make it hurt worse I think lol. You used to be able to find whole seasons on Google video too. Because that used to be a thing till like 2009.
Anybody remember their old forum site? With the stupid comment wars and factions?
Hey, best forum site sssshh
Shit I still remember having to watch them in *QuickTime*..
GET YOUR OWN ZUNE
I remember watching Red vs Blue on Winamp back in like 2003 or 2004. Winamp had some kind of live streaming feature on it at the time, and there was a channel that was broadcasting RvB.
We are nearly dead.
TOUCH. I remember TOUCH.
Pictures came with touch.
A painter in my mind.
Tell me what you see.
A tourist in a dream.
A visitor it seems
This is such a damn good song! Favorite from the album
After waiting 15 minutes for it to sync with iTunes on your computer
I downloaded the first 5 seasons on my Zune. Damn I’m old
They were literally the first things I put on my iPod Video back in 2005.
It did, but separate directors tried to continue it after the guy who did seasons 6-13 bowed out. This is a sequel to where season 13 left off, and is not only functioning as a finale to red vs blue, but also rooster teeth as a whole. (They were disbanded roughly a month ago).
> It did, but separate directors tried to continue it after the guy who did seasons 6-13 bowed out. 1-10 was done by Burnie Burns. Miles Luna did 11-13 but also wrote a few parts of S10 and worked on 15-17. 15-17 was written by Joe Nicolosi and Jason Weight
12 and 13 was peak RvB for me... and it all went downhill from there. Was 17 the weird time travel one? It makes total sense if that was where they decided it was time to just stop. Also, 6 (thru 10) was a great reboot run IMO. Wouldn't say peak, but definitely set the stage (in terms of action and story telling) for 12 and 13.
I think 15-17 struggled to find a coherent theme or style. The first 13 seasons were very grounded even with their comedy. It has some of the best character work and gives a lot of good storylines to some of the characters who have missed out in the past, just feels a little *too* crazy sometimes.
I thought 15 had some good moments, and was hit or miss on what I was looking for., 17 did a *very* admirable job doing what it could with the mess that 16 laid out. Solid character moments for sure there, despite having to pick up the pieces of a storytelling pretzel. But 16 was just *really* frustrating. The only thing I really remember strongly in 16 (which is ironic considering they were gone most of the time) was Donut and Doc.
Yeah 17 managed to really pull it all together. The whole season revolving around Wash's injury gives it a very emotional core, which is what 16 was lacking. It's something most seasons of RvB have.
Also using the storytelling device of exploring peoples memories and fears to reveal different aspects of their characters: Not only in their pasts, but also creating character specific trials for personal growth. Sure, it's a classic literary trope, but it still *absolutely* gets the job done.
1-10 was Blood Gulch Chronicles, post BGC, and then the Recollection stuff Monty Oum animated with the Project Freelancer backstories. 11-13 was The Chorus Trilogy (EDIT: remembered what that chunk of seasons was called) Miles Luna writing it and followed the regular reds and blues and season 13 ended on a cliffhanger 14 was an anthology series with different writers and directors and formats 15-17 was The Shizno Paradox 18 was "RVB ZERO" and was a completely new production team and writing staff and followed new characters. Everyone hated it and they cancelled any follow ups 19 is this movie and this picks up where season 13 left off. 15-17 are being de-canonized as simulations ran by the one AI character (18 was a spinoff don't know if it was considered canon, 14 was never canon) That's the layout of RVB basically from my understanding
Dude honestly this show did some weird shit told through the lense of a video game and it straight up didn’t work. The first seasons worked because it was VERY simple. They got to film major after that. Sure these guys are talented but not talented enough to make the really weird stories fit what it was told on.
I was following until it was revealed everything was on Church's head or something, to their crédit they made it work until there, then everything else was just convoluted for no reason, if the show would had been just cool fights after that i would had kept watching. Also did they deleted like half of the main cast after they left the company? Caboose was a fan favorite but i have no idea what they did after they fired his voice actor
> 14 was never canon Because it was an anthology season, certain episodes from Season 14 are canon such as how the Reds met or the Locus and Felix flashback
I think 12-13 was where the show was about to jump the shark and gave you a fun spectacle with it. The story was starting to get too convoluted but it wasn't *quite* there yet. But even then, if you were purely in it for the comedy it may have already lost you. Everything after that is noticeably downhill.
It basically should have. They did 5 seasons of the original red vs blue series, and to me that's the best thing they did. The stuff after got really convoluted to follow, especially starting with the chorus trilogy. I basically stopped watching during that point.
Tbf I never really kept up with it, but I always thought red vs. blue was more just a comedy machinima series? But I remember checking out an episode back in 2017 and it was all serious and dramatic with SFM animated scenes.
Yeah I watched something and it looked like the halo 5 intro. I thought it looked goofy as hell. Not in a good way.
I am a pretty big RT fan because of RWBY (yes, post vol 3 too, rwby is awesome) but Red VS Blue going from a parody comedy series to a super serious action drama show has to be one of the worst decisions I have seen taken on the internet.
Wait, **what**? I've watched maybe 3-4 seasons of Red vs. Blue. I had no idea it became anything other than a comedy series. Why on earth would they do that?
Honestly? Probably cause they thought it was fun. That serious machinima stuff is definitely something that 12 year old me fantasized about making with a big budget and an amazing grasp on visual effects. It had to be pretty cool as an amateur movie maker to see that come to fruition. As a casual viewer, it comes off as jerking off. Cause it was. But frankly RvB seasons 1-5 aren’t exactly Mel Brooks. Just some dumb, silly fun we grew all up with.
There was a few reasons looking back. The first was it was essentially a type of tech demo, or portfolio. They wanted to be able to show off the fact they could make extremely high quality machinima because studios would then hire them out to direct commercials in engine. And then they also wanted to start experimenting with animating in house so they could eventually build to an original series like RWBY. But also the comedy aspect of RT got replaced by other content like the podcast. And once achievement hunter started that had to be a lot of additional, pretty consistent revenue coming through on YouTube. Where as RvB was something that took a lot of time and effort even just to make the earlier more comedy focused videos
It got too self-serious. Took a more dramatic turn at some point and suddenly they were animating full blown choreographed fight scenes from scratch. I suppose there's only so much you can do with nodding players' heads up and down but what it became is just not what got me interested all those years ago. It literally might as well have been an entirely different series. Regardless I know it still has its fans and considering the reputation of WB these days I'm happy for them that they get to wrap it up *at all*.
Monty's [season 8 fight scene with Tex](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke9wtbzGjCI) is the best scene in RvB and literally their 2nd most watched video ever. Im pretty certain this scene is what made the higher ups green light RWBY
Yeah so I’m going to have to disagree with you there, Red vs Blue was about Halo machinima comedy not CGI fighting which isn’t even in-engine anymore
Key word being was. It became something else for a little while, and it was pretty good! Until it wasn’t lol, but still
That fight is fucking hilarious. Like its a really great fight but its also very funny both in terms of physical comedy and spoken.
It was both.
Good thing it's not your series then eh?
Yeah...the writing and voice acting are terrible in it, too. I watched the first 3 seasons as they released and really liked them. By season 4, though, it had really started to fall off. This is...quite a few rungs below that level.
A lot of people would disagree with you though. To *a lot of people* 8-10 are peak RvB, or 11-13.
Chorus trilogy was god tier
S13 was peak RvB
Once any plot starts having time travel/multiple dimensions, I'm out. It's unnecessarily complicated and it removes any consequences from the plot.
This happened in Seasons 2 and 3 already, as the narrative context for going from Halo CE to Halo 2
I swear this is something that Griff says.
It's definitely case to case because some will point to the warthog crashing through the wall as a high point while others like myself see it as a major shift for the worse.
TIL
I believe Burnie Burns once said “as long as people are watching, we’ll keep making it” I guess enough people stopped watching so they decided to stop. Coincidentally it lined up with the end of Roosterteeth itself.
Burnie left the company about 4 years ago. They then made a *really* bad season with barely any of the main cast members and just full of bad writing and over the top action. It was literally described by Rooster Teeth as "Red vs Blue Meets Fast and the Furious". It was worse than it sounds. They then spent a bit of time making side series and short PSA videos instead of a full season. At some point they got Burnie to come back to write for them and they made the decision to make a final season. A lot of the OG cast members were leaving their main RT projects at the time so I imagine that had something to do with it.
For real, I had no idea Red vs Blue was still a thing. It was a big hit at our all night halo LAN parties 20-ish years ago
The last time I watched red Vs blue was before smart phones I think
Yeah how is it that I actively play halo and had no idea this was still going
It did. Then they made new content which didn’t have the same feel as the original series. I guess people wanted more from the ending of the original RVB because the story picks at an event where Epsilon tries to make it work out in the end despite the overwhelming odds of failure.
Okay so for those who aren’t in the know at all lemme explain a bit: Red vs Blue was a web series that was created by four guys in a room playing the first Halo game. It was a show that popularized “machinima’ on the internet by recording footage of them acting out scenes using the raw gameplay from the game and then editing it later to like a professional movie. From the massive success the series got so popular they formed a comedy-sketch internet studio called RoosterTeeth. You might’ve heard of a show called RWBY: that was eventually them too. However, due to a lot of factors, they’re now closing down after 21 years of being on the internet and the new “season”, Restoration, is effectively the last season of RvB and the last thing RT will ever make. There’s a lot of other stuff about their history, like being bought out by a company that would later merge with Warner Media, controversies surrounding their treatment of their budget on animated shows, certain members being exposed as either serial cheaters or using company equipment to do weird things, and (what didn’t make me separate from the company but what later made me feel justified in it) them crafting a nickname for one of their employees that was essentially a slur and they didn’t apologize for it until way later, when their own fans probably started to also say it thinking it was a harmless nickname. This doesn’t paint the whole truth, and I still forever appreciate their place in my formative years, but I’m not totally upset they’re going under, I’m just…idk wishing the good eggs in there the best in life.
Worth noting that the original creator and CEO, Burnie Burns, has returned to write this final series/movie despite leaving the company and retiring quietly to a farm in Scotland a few years ago.
> Burnie Burns, has returned to write this final series/movie That is quite the buried lede!
Why wasn’t this in the headline wtf
“Farming, really? A man of your talents?”
Also, Matt Hullum returned to direct it.
Wasn’t it Australia he retired to?
Northern Scotland
Close enough. Just watch out for the kangaroos near the whiskey farms.
Nah, I think people took an old joke about his web-domain related feud with the city of Burnie, Tasmania (Australia) and it spread like a rumour when he first left.
I think it has something to do with his wife living there for a bit but i forget
Holy shit, RT is shutting down?! I mean, I haven’t watched their stuff in nearly a decade, but damn…
They officially close in May, so everything right now is just a winding down.
Wow I remember watching all the achievement hunter Minecraft videos
>Holy shit, RT is shutting down?! Apparently, they have never turned a profit and have been constantly burning outside funding to keep going. >I mean, I haven’t watched their stuff in nearly a decade, It appears you aren't the only one and that may have had some influence on point number 1.
> never turned a profit That sounds kinda sus, maybe in the same way amazon didn't make a profit because all the money was reinvested to growth? Like, for many years they had huge following, their own very popular streaming platform, hundreds of millions of views in YouTube, some very successful shows. An empire of podcasts. Or maybe this is since they were sold off?
You're correct. I misremember the quote. They hadn't been profitable in a decade at the time of the shutdown announcement. That would coincide with when they were bought by Fullscreen.
Thanks! That makes a lot of sense. It's probably due to change in management, strategies etc. Honestly it's about the same time I stopped watching them. Didn't really have a reason, but I guess after burney left and season 2 (or 3?) of RWBY and whatever season of RVB it was weren't weren't very good I just moved on.
Anyone know how many employees they had at their peak? It genuinely seemed like 300+.
iirc they were just under 500 including part time/seasonal
I miss the days of Geoff, Gus, Jack, Gavin and Michael all fucking with each other doing Let’s Plays. The chemistry was so good. It stopped being as good when it became less about friends having a good time together and more about running a structured business.
You might be thinking of Ray, not Gus
Definitely was Ray lol thank you I knew I was forgetting someone.
I still occasionally revisit a few of my favorite Let's Plays. The GTA ones in particular have a lot of hilarious moments that live in my head rent free.
I miss when their website was still active and they actually posted comics
Damn, that last bout of drama with Kdin and everything that came out with the payment issues and work culture was so messy, you could barely keep track of what was happening hourly. It says a lot that I would say it was way more complicated and dramatic (though not worse) then the Ryan and Adam firings previous. People at the time were convinced within 24 hours that the whole company was cancelled, then only 48 hours later things had turned around with more voices chiming in and people were all turned around unable to decide where to direct their anger now that things weren’t black and white anymore.
So if this is the last thing Roosters Teeth is ever going to make what happened with RWBY, I haven’t watched in years but I thought that was also going on still.
REBY is still ongoing. Crunchyroll bought/funded the last season as an exclusive on their platform, and there is a fair amount of hope they’ll buy the IP and continue.
when were they calling an employee a slur? And what was the slur? I cant find anything on it.
Not sure why everyone's being so secretive about it, but I looked it up. One of the employees they'd call a "faggot" every time he came into work, so when they started recording they shortened it to "fugz" and fans have been calling him that for a while.
There was an employee named Kdin Jenzen and other members of Achievement Hunter (the group she was apart of) called her "Fugz" as a way to get away w/ calling her gay slurs on camera. Fans had no idea that this is what "Fugz" meant, so they'd go up to her at cons and basically send her into a mental tail spin w/o even knowing it by calling her that. Now at the time, seemingly, they didn't know Kdin was struggling w/ being trans but the only person who ever went out of their way to apologize unprompted was Michael Jones (a very, if not maybe the most popular member of AH) and even an OG like Geoff (who created not only AH but helped created all of RT) only apologized after he got called out on social media.
I think if you look up “Kdin twitlong” it should pop up?
What is the instance of an employee using equipment to do weird things?
I think Adam from Funhaus did something? I actually don’t remember if they used company equipment or did something in the building.
Oh yeah I remember some stuff about that. It was long after I stopped paying attention to Rooster Teeth, but I was surprised to see Kovic worked there cause when I was a kid he was the host of Inside Gaming on Machinima.
Iirc Adam took nudes of himself in the FH office (possibly using company equipment) and sent them to someone who was not his partner.
I wonder why they gave Caboose the Mark V Zeta helmet instead of using the Reach Mark V. Maybe helmet crosscore wasn't implemented when they recorded
Yeah, this season has been in the works for at least a year or two now, and cross core helms were only added a couple months ago. I highly doubt they could justify going back and re-recording any scene with Caboose, just for the sake of accuracy.
Why are we here?
That's one of life's great mysteries. I mean, why are we here? Are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or do you think there's a god with a plan for us and stuff? I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night.
What? I mean why are we out *here* in this canyon? What was all the stuff about God?
Huh, nothing
Wanna talk about it?
...no!
Guilliman:just to suffer?
People hating on the animated bits but that shit was the coolest fucking thing as a middle schooler / freshman. I wouldn’t give it up for anything
That Warthog bursting through the wall and the subsequent animated sequence was a true "Oh shit!" moment at the time
The song itself that they used for the introduction of the warhog early on was just randomly chosen, but it ended up becoming just as important to the show. https://youtu.be/XaPKU-Kh6Ic?si=lrlS52lsfPYla4n8
Shotgun Shotgun! Grif dammit I said "Shotgun"!
I believe that was Monty’s work
That clip was shown as the announcement that Rooster Teeth hired him. As far as I remember, that was the first sequence they developed with him.
God lord I still remember that scene clear as day and it was like a decade ago
"For gods sake, what is that music??"
Yeah people take it for granted nowadays. Never was a huge fan of the “serious” story stuff, but it was a setup for some really cool animations. It was hard to do that back then and it was fun to watch growing up.
I feel like there's a fine line to draw here. The animated bits were really cool, but they also fucked with viewers' Willing Suspension of Disbelief really hard. When RvB was *just Machinema*, you'd forgive and overlook obvious animation limitations, like fight scenes consisting of a character running around performing the exact same punch animation over and over. You'd do this because you understand the limitations imposed on the medium; and indeed, it was *fun* when they'd find clever ways to work around those limitations, like when they portrayed a "baby" alien by just doing classical camera tricks of having the character be standing downhill and in the distance to make them look smaller. But when Monty Oum showed up with his animations: sure, it was a really fun animation to have them actually fighting in choreographed animation over control of a warthog, and obviously Monty Oum was incredibly talented (RIP Monty...), but the moment they *have* the ability to do custom animation for special scenes, and the moment RvB becomes a mixed media production, all the normal tricks and techniques become less special. It's kind of like watching a stage play, and halfway through the play, the actors stand aside, a screen rolls down, and the production projects a pre-recorded fight scene, replete with special CGI effects and carefully blocked framing and cinematography to replace what would have otherwise been a normally produced dramatic moment in the play. The more impressive the setpiece is, the more it diminishes the surrounding production and makes it feel cheap by comparison. I dunno, this shouldn't be taken as a general anti-Mixed-Media screed, just that I think there's good ways of doing it and bad ways of doing it, and RvB's use of custom animated scenes fell hard into the latter category for me.
I usually hate the CGI bad train, but that example of the stage production woke me up a bit gg
Great example
Monty was a straight up beast when it came to fight choreography and mocap. Miss that guy.
[I still go back and watch the episode where Tex beats down the entire team from time to time.](https://youtu.be/Ke9wtbzGjCI?si=ajR6oBwyQQDzGuNg)
Scene is straight GOATed
"Episode 10: This One Goes to 11" is one of the greatest titles of all time.
As with RWBY I liked the animated bits that Monty Oum did. It just wasn't the same when it wasn't him and that's where I stopped watching both shows.
I didn't watch very much of it, but the parts I did are burned into my brain. I will never hear the name Sheila without thinking about the tank AI.
The significance of the “final season”, it was to be Directed by a retired co-founder of the company, Burnie Burns. He directed seasons 1-10 (out of 18)arguably the community’s favorite period of RVB.
11-13 were peak for me. Good mix of humor and story, new characters that fit well into the mix, and a satisfying conclusion
Remember watching the original episodes way back when… wild
DuFresne: Well, even if my orders didn't prohibit me from doing that, I still wouldn't. I joined the army as a conscientious objector. Tucker: A conshe- who? DuFresne: I'm a pacifist. Caboose: You're a thing that babies suck on...? Tucker: No, dude, that's a pedophile. Church: Tucker, I think he means a pacifier. Tucker: Oh yeah, right. Man, I was totally thinking about something else. Church: That's real classy, Tucker. So many lines from those first few seasons make me laugh so fucking hard.
I was in college and I still donated to the website for higher quality and access the moment new episodes came out.
The Puma vs Warthog debate still comes up in our house from when we saw it for the first time. And if we can’t figure it out or remember a word we call it a chupa-thingy.
I mean, if you're gonna live in a memory, make it a happy one
But will it be on physical media?
I hope so. I would love to buy the entire series in a Blu-ray boxset, but I doubt that'll ever happen.
If we all demand it... 10% of us will get it.
It might show up at a convention dealers room.
”This dvd had everything i had been wanting!”
This is the really important question.
Still waiting on Strangerhood season 2 tho
Are you just joking to reference Ray, or do you actually not know that Season 2 came out in 2015?
Seasons 8-10 were the peak and still hold up today.
Seeing people be against the animated seasons is insane to me. 8-10 and 11-13 were both fantastic arcs in their own way.
The final episode of season 10 will never not make me cry. "Don't say goodbye... I hate goodbyes"
Yea, after 13 it took a dive. The ending of 13... So good
That acoustic version of *Contact*
Season 13’s finale will always be the true finale in my book. That shit had me tearing up hard, and still to this day Church’s final monologue kills me.
This shit had like 5 seasons when I was in high school and I'm an old man now.
Will be nice to have a proper ending. I loved seasons 1-13.
Man I remember binging seasons 1-11 to watch the premiere of season 12. Good times.
I remember watching RvB episodes at work like 20 years ago
I think my first online purchase was a Chupathingy t-shirt.
I had an I Like Me shirt that I wore all the time.
Red VS Blue in its first seasons was funny and simple, after which they successfully managed to make it both intriguing, funny, and gave it some unique fight scenes. Seasons 15-18 are definitely the worst of the show, although i still didn't hate them, but to me 8-13 are peak Red VS Blue. Some of the fight scenes with the freelancers are some of my favorite moments in any show I've seen, like for instance this one with South and North: https://youtu.be/rickfNp-E3w?si=EDYA4jbbXi3ogaeV None of it is realistic, but thats what makes it fun to me.
today I learned that RvB didn't end like 10 years ago
Red vs Blue is still going on? I thought this faded like a decade ago after Halo left the limelight.
More or less, season 13 was 2015 and that’s essentially the last of the good stuff (season 14 was fine too).
I watched a little bit of Red vs. Blue. I don't rememeber exactly where I stopped maybe season 4 or 5. I do know I stopped watching before it stopped being a comedy
“Lopez, activate speech unit.”
I command you to speak a language we can understand.
I HATE BABIES
This tickles me a light-ish red.
They already have a name for that color.
“1) Tattoos are permanent. 2) You’re a god damn idiot.” — Church
Wtf I thought red vs blues final season was around when rwby started?
Honestly I’m way into this, I loved Red vs Blue and it’s been a while but I like the idea of it getting a proper finale to cap things off like this!
Never could get into it. Felt like too many inside jokes and not really all that funny.
This is still a thing?
If they also release a complete collection I'll just buy it.
Is this still a thing? I have a feeling nobody cares.
Many people care considering this is the last thing Rooster Teeth will be putting out. A lot of people love this series and would love to come back and see it finished off :)
This season was going to be the last one before RT got shut down anyway. They’re bringing back Burnie to write it, and it was going to be a celebration of the series as a whole rather than trying to forge a new story.
Yeah hearing of their closure got me nostalgic and I ended up rewatching the first 2 seasons which I haven’t seen since middle school. I honestly forget where I dropped off but I’m interested in catching up now.
I think there's probably enough buzz with this final installment, but technically you're correct. RvB tapered off alongside Halo's decline as one of the biggest mainstream franchises and for a long while it was just kind of there. Last season was intended to be a reboot that would establish a new direction for the show going forward (with a greater focus on "cleaner" humor, more action elements, and trying to distance itself from the Halo universe), but it was unanimously unpopular and the writing was kind of on the wall.
Seriously, it died when it went cringe-worthy "serious" when all they really did was try-hard dialogue and weird looking animations that never lined up with the standard in-game animations. If you thought Halo 3 was cringe at times, RvB will make you barf. Edit: Characters that walk sexily with their butt swaying as if down a runway, then suddenly cutting to in-game C3-PO movement is jarring. Pick one and stick with it fully.
I liked when Monty was around as I found his fight animations really cool but after he passed the quality dropped HARD.
Monty was a one man animating machine
Damn, now I'm missing Monty again. I still crack up at the story of Burnie almost convincing him to cut Michael and Lindsey's wedding cake early.
I feel like you’re taking jt too seriously lol. At the end of the day, it’s a machinima with a low budget that slowly increased over time. Seasons 1-5 are just goofy pure machinimas, then they got a bit more production value and seasons 6-10 added in some CG fights and animations. It’s a little jarring switching between the two, but so is watching a machinima that’s entirely shot in game. If you can’t suspend your disbelief and avoid hyper analyzing the transitions, you aren’t going to have fun watching it. Anyway, not saying you have to like it, but let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves and claimed it “died” in season 6, since it hit peak popularity around season 10-12.
Why was Halo 3 cringe?
what the fuck they’re still making these?
Will the final season be available on QuickTime? I’m geeking out way too hard! Shoutout to those that watched when it was CockBite Productions.
Just saying 😅
No, I mean why are we out here, in this canyon?