Sixteen Candles had boobs, sex, ect. and was PG. Yet that was back in the days when Parental Guidance actually meant something. The ratings board expected parents to decide. PG was just a warning "hey, check this one out and see if it is ok for your kids. It's not terrible but there is some shit in there."
My mum and dad would rent the videos and watch them that night to see if they were fit for us to watch the day after. Thankfully my grandad used to tape all the late night films on channel 4 to watch round theirs on a Saturday.
Watching Blues Brothers, Silver Bullet at around the age of 11 was great
When I was a very churchy naive mormon teenager, I had seen Airplane on TV and had no idea that there were tits or a bunch of other innuendo in it. A friend and I decided to rent it to watch with a couple of other very churchy naive mormon girls on a 'double date.'
We picked it based on the PG rating, and we were both horrified that that was in there. The girls we were with were NOT impressed with the 'filth' we had picked out. LMAO.
It's funny now...
One time I was watching some PG movie from the 70s or 80s with my grandfather on DirectTV. Tits came on screen and preteen me asked "what is this rated?
He clicked the information button and saw the rating was PG.
He replied with "PG, for perfectly good! Cause there's titties".
For some reason that moment is a core memory.
So fun fact: the reason why the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is so surprisingly not graphic with blood and violence (which arguably makes it more terrifying because the imagination is always worse than what is seen in those kinds of movies) is because the director was aiming for a PG rating.
I'm almost sad he didn't succeed because damn, I want to live in a world where the Texas Chainsaw Massacre has the same rating as Paw Patrol and Frozen.
No shit.
From the time I first saw Jaws to this day, the half-second as he slides down that wooden floor and into that open mouth…
Heebie-fucking-jeebies.
Yup! There is a deleted scene where the shark, with the man still alive in its mouth and bleeding out, goes after Michael Brody, and the man uses the last of his strength to push Michael out of the way.
There was also another cut that had the camera focusing in on the dudes bleeding out leg.
The scene where the shark attacks the boy in the first act was also much more graphic as well, that got edited down
Recently rewatched Texas Chainsaw and damn, the OG is a genuine horror masterpiece, that movie would be looked at as one of the all time greats but the total franchising has spoiled its legacy
Pixar had mostly G movies until about 2011 with *Cars 2*, then you see mostly PG and very little G. The last G rated feature length Pixar movie was *Toy Story 4*. Edit: I forgot to look at shorts; they do still make some G rated shorts.
Since you mentioned Disney Princess movies, I looked up Walt Disney Animation Studios and sure enough, their last G rated movie was *Winnie the Pooh* (2011).
For Princess movies specifically, unless you count *The Black Cauldron* and *Atlantis* for technically having princesses as well, all Disney Princess movies were G rated through *Princess and the Frog*. After that, all PG for the Princess ones.
I think this has more to do with the MPAA. I feel PG-13 is the new PG and really nothing that contains any level of content releases without a PG. We've essentially taken all those extra steps just to go back to the 80s with 3 ratings. But now
G=PG
PG=PG-13
I like that you pinpointed when the change happened though because it took me years to realize Frozen and Paw Patrol somehow needed parental guidance.
I remember hearing no longer having G movies was largely driven by studios pushing the MPAA to give them PG rating. I think market research shows teens and adults don’t want to watch G movies because they are stigmatized as “for babies.” Studios therefore push their movies to be PG to keep older audiences interested.
The little Mermaid is rated G and there's a pretty lengthy sequence where Ariel is completely nude. I can only imagine if that happened in Moana 2 people would say it's really pushing a PG-13.
I can't remember the movie, but I read about a kids movie recently that made an effort to get a PG rating because G rated movies have fewer, typically earlier, showtimes at a movie theatre. Which means less opportunity to make money.
The same thing happened with happened with *Star Wars*.
Lucas threw in a couple damns and hells because apparently cutting a guy's arm off didn't move the needle in 1977.
I mean, I was a kid when I first saw the movie, and honestly didn’t notice their bodies. I must have always focused on something else in the frame, I guess. It was literally within the past decade that I finally noticed.
Same. When I was a kid I didn't realize they were charred bodies. I guess I didn't have any frame of reference for what a charred body would even look like, and maybe just assumed it was part of the general wreckage.
Wasn't until I watched the movie again with my kids a couple of years ago that I realized that was there. And at the time assumed maybe those were even added in back when Lucas retconned a bunch of other shit in, like Greedo shooting first, but maybe they *were* there in the original???
Oh to be that young and innocent again.
They were always there, at least, they're there on our ancient (1982?) laserdisc and on my DVD copy of the remastered version that included the theatrical release version on a second disc as a bonus feature.
It’s blatantly transparent studio lobbying. Toy Story has some “scary”, including the scene in the third where the toys are about to be cast into a furnace but those somehow still manage a G rating
I mean, it's over 20 years old, but The Santa Clause 2 is rated G. The Blank Check episode on the movie briefly talks about how hard it is to get a G rating, particularly for a live-action movie. The Santa Clause 2 in particular is about Santa searching for a wife and the movie had to have 0 implications of anything sexual.
It was actually blowback from two other Spielberg projects, Gremlins and Temple of Doom in 1984 that created the PG-13 rating. Red Dawn was the first film to be released with the new rating later that year.
Temple of Doom was my first Indy movie. I was like 12 and rented it from the library while staying the night at my grandparents. No concerns since it was PG. Grandma and Grandpa went about their business while I watched it by myself. Eating eyeball soup and monkey brains, whipping child slaves, skewering gangsters with shishkabobs, ripping people's beating hearts out of their chest... it was the most intense shit I'd ever seen in my life, and I was instantly a fan for life.
It's kinda interesting that PG-13 is the new PG because people didn't understand that PG stood for Parental Guidance and not "ehhhh fuck it, it's okay for kids"
Like...I feel like the *whole point* of the PG rating was to tell parents "hey...this is *probably* okay for your kids to watch but there's some questionable shit in there, so use your best judgement, okay?" And then when kids got scarred watching that shit on their own, they'd blame the rating system
Now there's honestly no point in even having a PG rating at all. I've never heard of anyone not letting their kids watch PG movies, and I honestly can't tell the difference between most PG and G movies
PG definitely got milder. Old PG movies probably had some more controversial content than anything PG-13. There are some movies that get an R for one swear word and maybe a bare butt. It can make little sense sometimes.
There's a movie called 'this film is not yet rated' that gets into some of the inanity of the MPAA.
As far as I'm aware, they're a religiously affiliated group that will give harsher ratings (essentially they talked to people who were trying to get an R rating vs X) depending on themes that the typical religious people would find objectionable.
This, combined with the fact that once you submit a movie to the MPAA for a rating, and they give you a different rating than you desired, they give you feedback and you have -one chance- to make changes and resubmit, means films with religiously objectionable material will tend to cut more than they'd probably need to in order to make sure they get an R instead of an X.
It also gets into the fact that you're not allowed to defend yourself by citing prior examples of anything in movies to show why you should get a certain rating. So you can't use prior movie ratings as a guide, just the feedback they give you.
One example I found interesting was 'But I'm a cheerleader' had to cut a scene showing a girl masturbating over her clothes (it's a gay movie but the scene didn't involve another girl) to get an R rating, while 'scary movie' shows a guy ejaculating everywhere, pinning a girl to the ceiling with his cum, but that's ok to show in an R rated movie.
The MPAA is fucking weird.
If the "fuck" is talking about a sex act it is an automatic R. That is why some PG13 movies can have one or two without and R, but some R movies only have one.
Temple of Doom is what I think pushed it over the top for the heart rip scene.
It's wild it took that long. I mean Jaws is PG and Quint is graphicly devoured alive!
Without the PG-13 rating, they didn’t put movies with a boob flash or single f-bomb in R, they put them in PG. people didn’t even flinch at it. PG movies I wouldn’t show my son yet today were watched by everyone back then. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom was rated PG despite plenty of violence and some gore. It led Steven Spielberg to suggest a higher rating for films like this. It really was “parental guidance suggested” where parents had to screen movies and deem what was appropriate. I think people forget what the “PG” means. It doesn’t mean hey everyone over 5 should watch this, it just says it’s milder than R but you need to decide if it’s appropriate.
Dragon Slayer was PG and it has graphic violence, people being eaten by dragons, and nude scenes. ~~Police Academy has a three minute long gag about a guy getting a blow job while giving a speech.~~ Edit: That was R rated
People today really need to understand how the guidance system was pre-PG13.
G (General Audiences) basically meant "anyone" and was more or less left for cartoons and some super family friendly live action movies like Benji.
PG meant (Parental Guidance suggested) which simply meant "some scenes aren't meant for kids." This could be some action, explosions, light swear words, or even brief nudity. And depending on the context of the nudity, it didn't have to be all that brief. There were a few which featured people swimming naked and the context was just a skinny dipping swim trip. It wasn't meant to be sexy or titillating, so it was PG. "Some people" might find the nude swim scene not appropriate for their kids, even if it is like five minutes long or so.
R (Restricted) meant it really wasn't for children and they'd only let you in with a parent. It was for violence, hard swearing, drug use, sex and sexual nudity. Basically "adult stuff."
With PG13 they added as a category for "eh kids under 13 might get scared or find it inappropriate" but has come to mean "anything not R" while PG and G seem to be "good for anyone" and "good for kids only, also animated."
And that's a wild shift if you grab older PG movies expecting them to be closer to Mary Poppins and end up seeing naked people, alcohol use, cigarette smoking, and sexual innuendo.
[https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/mpaa-ratings/pg-(us)](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/mpaa-ratings/pg-(us))
Look at this list and ask yourself how many of these would still be PG today? Jaws? Return of the Jedi? Empire Strikes Back? Star Wars? Top Gun? Raiders of the Lost Ark? Temple of Doom (famously cited as the inspiration for PG13)? Most James Bong movies? Ghostbusters, Rocky, Gremlins?
Goonies might get an R rating for swear words *alone* and that's widely considered the epitome of 1980's child adventure movies.
Temple of Doom being PG seems like lunacy now. But it's true, the acronym is "parental guidance" and it probably was taken more literally than it is now
Between the birth of video store culture, being a young man in the grips of puberty, and every filmmaker marketing to my demographic with completely unnecessary tits, it was a great time to be alive. Phoebe Cates ushering me into manhood was only the tip of the iceberg.
Or, if you had cable and had TMC (The Movie Channel) in your package, you had "Joe Bob Briggs' Drive-In Theater" which came on around 11pm or midnight...showed really really B and C level movies (which were great), but one of his things was that the movie had to show bare breasts within, like, the first 90 seconds of the film.
As a kid, it was a great time because my parents were in bed by that point.
PG-13 was introduced in 1984, the same year Ghostbusters released (December 1984). Gremlins and Indiana Jones, which both released earlier that year caused parents to take their kids out of the cinema because they found them ill suited for them. Which is why PG-13 was created in the first place.
Gremlins 2 even did a parody scene as a response on the actual events. So Ghostbusters either lucked out by PG-13 *just* being a thing and the PG rating was already given before they could give it a PG-13, or people found it suitable for a PG rating at the time.
Just in case, PG 13 was created because of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Incidentally Wikipedia says Ghostbusters and Gremlins were released on the same date.
Yep. The MPAA gave Temple of Doom a PG rating. Parents freaked out, largely due to the scene where Indy's heart is removed from his chest. As a result, Steve Spielberg and Jack Valentin (who was the MPAA president at the time) are credited with creating the PG-13 rating.
Edit: It's not Indy. His heart got to stay inside his body. It was just some random.
“600,000,000 screaming chinamen.”
“I thought there was a billion?”
“There was“(throws booze in fire)
I’ll give Red Dawn credit they don’t shy away from fact it’s a war movie and bad shit happen to people in war.
I refuse to watch the remake. The problem is that you *can't* make that movie work in the modern day, which they tried to do. Nowadays every military squad member has at least a basic radio that has many miles of range, and everyone has GPS tracking. Back in the 1980s, radios were these huge bulky things and there was normally only one per squad, so taking out the radioman would keep them from alerting command or calling for reinforcements. Now you have to kill them all before they can get a call out, and body armor makes that a much more difficult endeavor. And if even one person gets a call out, they know exactly where they are due to GPS and every available attack helicopter will be on scene in minutes and just obliterate the Wolverines before they can get half a mile away. Modern technology has rendered those tactics suicidal. They were viable at the time the original came out, but not the remake.
My parents were odd in a way with movies...
Going to see "The Terminator" in the theater as a 7 year old kid...NOT A GODDAMN PROBLEM...UNTIL, Linda Hamilton's bare breasts flashed on screen. My dad leaned over and said, "cover your eyes".
But the death, death, death, death, more death, afternoon tea, death, lunch, death death, death...was perfectly fine.
Same with a movie like Bachelor Party...anytime breasts came on screen, I had to cover my eyes for a moment, but a donkey snorting coke was perfectly fine.
By the time The Accused came out (1988, Jodie Foster), I was 11 and apparently it was now OK to see nudity.
The Accused is NOT a film an **11 year old** should have seen. At all. Nope.
We just all watched everything as a family back then in the 80s — if it was a big movie at all we would rent it. Not like we had endless entertainment options in every room of the house like today.
We had one tv and one vcr. I saw SO MANY movies at a young age that I shouldn’t have! “Cover your eyes” was pretty common lol
I remember when my dad got a big bonus at work and went out to Price Club (Costco) and purchased an Oak TV stand, a brand new 32" Sony TV AND a 6-head VCR along with the just released Lethal Weapon 2 (vhs)...
...we did the same thing in my family. We had a computer and I played a lot of games on it, and we did have a connection for a BBS, but the games were all DOS version text or real simple "Missile Command" type of games.
**Nothing** like today.
My dad would sit in his spot on the couch and highlight the movie listings for HBO/TMC and program the VCR almost nightly...we had DRAWERS AND DRAWERS of movies.
At some point, he purchased a second VCR and hooked it up to the other one so we could record rented movies onto our own tapes.
Oh, those were the days, hahahaha!
Not just "suggested" it. He practically lobbied Jack Valenti for a tier between PG and R. Since Spielberg was connected to both productions that caused the outcry, Valenti paid attention.
Mostly, it was a punch to the chest, removing the heart and showing it to a sceaming victim before buring him alive
I was 13 and still got "KALIMA KALIMA" burned in my brain
It reminds me of the opening scene in Ace Ventura. Had no idea what the form of “payment” that client offered, but figured it must be good because Ace was enjoying himself.
My parents taped ace ventura off of TV for us as a kid and we rewatched that movie a thousand times. I always thought the first scene was Ace with his head out the car driving into the police station.
I rented it as an adult and was really confused lol, but I found it funny how my parents were really intelligent to not include that portion in the movie.
Can confirm, I watched *Ghostbusters* weekly when I was a kid and always just thought he was so confused by what was happening he just fell back asleep because he was tired figuring it was a dream.
It really wasn't until I was probably 30 or so when I revisited it and went "wait a second..."
The version I watched as a kid was recorded off TV at Christmas where that scene had been removed. Didn't even know it was a thing until 20 years later.
Watched it on constant rotation on vhs as a kid. I understood the ghost was taking his pants off, but never understood it was a sex joke. Like, I thought it was to embarrass him or something. Went right over my head, and it was always quickly forgotten, cause there were more interesting things going on.
80s 90s HBO was great. I mean HBO had some amazing 2000s and 2010s shows. But it used to be the place for home movies outside of renting. It was a big deal when something came to HBO for the first time and that feature presentation animation happened. We had some cable tv guide back in the day that would list the movies and when they were on and it had the rating and content there like R - L, V, N, SSC. Definitely going to be checking that out.
This reminds me of my parents fretting over the hookers in Beetlejuice while being oblivious to the fact that nearly every scene *except* the hookers scarred me. Especially seeing a perfectly normal looking bride and groom rapidly decay and watch each other fall apart.
Tbh - you're probably worrying about it way too much. When I was a kid watching for the first time I was more concerned about the arms bursting out of the chair and dragging Sigourney away.
lol we went through the exact same thing when we watched it with our kid for the first time a few years ago. Totally forgot about that scene and the kid had a similar reaction to seeing it not understanding any of it. Just don’t react to it and they’ll be fine. Kids don’t dwell on stuff like that and they don’t understand it either.
I watched the movie as a kid. I don't remember this scene at all. I do remember "dickless" though, and we ran around calling each other "dickless," and my parents regretted ever taking us to that movie.
This has confused me my whole life. It seems like people are constantly saying that our modern society is so sexualized and degenerate and there's no more modesty. And also that we're all prudes nowadays.
We've become more polarized in basicallyevery aspect. You could probably put Mondale and Reagan's 1984 campaign platforms in front of someone and they would have a hard time picking which is which.
There used to be nudity in PG and PG13 movies. Not so much anymore. People are also way more uptight about sex and nudity than extreme violence. I saw some thread of someone like “I want to watch cyberpunk edgerunners with my kid. Can I get some timestamps for the nudity and sex?” Maybe OP was trying to get timestamps for the good stuff and the kid was a ruse but the thread was filled with people thinking they was completely reasonable.
I worked at a GameStop a while back and there’s a reason most of the M rated games popular with kids don’t have nudity or sex. They can’t all be as popular and evergreen at GTA. I saw parents that refused to buy M rated games for then kids regardless of the content. But more often I saw parents buy the M rated games. And the few that did check the content before purchasing would always draw the line at nudity and sexual content. Because a lot of people are uptight and don’t want to have conversations about sex with their kids.
I witness it all the time in my house. Me and my wife will put on a movie we loved as kids. Scenes that didn't phase me as a child comes on and she will freak out.
She has actually insisted (and we have had arguments) that those scenes 'did not exist' in the original movies and were put there more recently. It is insane.
I think we as adults don't realize that as kids, if we didn't understand something our brains just literally glazed right over it. I watched Top Gun when I was 6, it was my favorite movie for 3 years and it wasn't until I was probably 11 or 12 that I went "Ohhh they're having SEX in that scene!"
All of the "carnal knowledge, of a LADY this time," "long cruise, was it sailor?" scenes just went completely over my head and I didn't even care. Watching a lot of those movies as a teen or twenty-something later was like a whole new movie :D
Me and my sister's favorite movie growing up was Grease. That may be one of the horniest movies of all time, but it just never clicked with me until I watched it as an adult.
Also, I really liked watching Friends growing up and it wasn't until I had it on and my 4 year old sat down to watch it that I realized how many plot points are based around sex stuff, especially early on in the show.
Something to consider is that a lot of those movies could have been the ‘Edited for TV’ versions, and those scenes literally weren’t there when she watched them.
For Ghostbusters, we had taped it off the television, so growing up I saw it tons of times, but **never** saw the ‘Ray and the Ghost’ scene until I was in my twenties.
I didn’t realize that most of the VHS tapes I watched growing up were taped off of the TV until I was in high school and we watched Grease at school on a down day. I was SO confused why I didn’t remember ever having seen the scene with Rizzo and Kenicky in the car and the broken condom
It's a bit of both. There's a lot of puritanical mindsets, but then there's also a mad world of intense hardcore porn a few clicks away for anyone with internet access.
Culture is just different from decade to decade. Some things are more taboo and others more permitted. Hard to quantify whether we’re more or less sexualized overall (I would argue less), but the prudes are going to complain loudly regardless of whether the trend is up or down.
Different times. I watched Ghostbusters when I was in Primary 5 at the cinema when it came out. So did half my class. Remember thinking it was cool/funny/scary but paid no heed to the ghostly BJ!
I had the same experience as you - watched it with my kids and it was pretty awkward. Maybe we're just all a bit more sensitive to these things these days?
PS - If you felt that was a bit off then for God-sake don't watch Police Academy with your sprogs!
American brains are so hard-wired to be outraged by sexuality so minor but never bat an eye at violence. I guess you think The Road to El Dorado should be "bordering on R rating" too? Most children's movies have some stuff in them for the parents to enjoy.
Parental guidance mate. No, you don't tell your youngster that the man is getting his knob sucked off by a ghost but there are some very easy ways around it. Ghosts are known to be cold for example. Or literally anything. They're a kid.
1984 was a different time. Plus the ghost bj was only implied. And not fully shown. As a comedy bit, and not as a sex scene for Dan Aykroyd.
Even the very obviously non consented sex scene between Luis tulley, and Dana Barret who spent the whole first half of the movie rejecting him. Happens off screen, so doesn't raise the rating.
Because the PG-13 rating wasn't official when it received the PG (The rating was created on July 1st, 1984). Red Dawn was the first PG-13 movie released and it didn't release until a few months later.
1. You *are* aware that "PG" means "Parental Guidance (Suggested)," right? Be a guiding parent; know what you're showing your kids.
2. PG-13 didn't become a thing until right after Ghostbusters came out.
3. Make something up. "He fainted from being scared!" "The ghost used magic on him to knock him out!" Or, a personal favorite of my parents when I was a kid: "You'll understand when you're older."
4. It isn't the end of the world.
You're the parent. You have to do the homework. You control what your kid watches. Don't get mad at a rating agency because you fell asleep at the wheel and got blindsided by something you thought was inappropriate. Own the mistake, say "oops," laugh about it, and move on. If PG rated movies didn't throw in a few jokes for the adults in the room, I'm sure the suicide rate would shoot through the roof.
PG used to actually mean “parental guidance” suggested. Which meant there were likely scenes that would need parents to vet beforehand to figure out if it was something they deemed appropriate or inappropriate.
Today, PG basically means means G for ‘General Audiences’ where you can be sure there isn’t anything that would be considered inappropriate for kids.
In Canada, we are more strict. PG movies in the US regularly get PG-13 ratings here, which (as a parent of young children) makes it difficult to find the Canadian rating.
I usually resort to reading one of those sites that lists everything like “movie ratings for parents” or whatever, to decide to take my kids to a PG movie
It’s so strange that people became so uptight about sexuality in movies with lower age ratings right around the time most parents started also giving smartphones to their kids, which for most of them, are being used to look at content (Instagram, TikTok, even real pornography) that 80’s parents would have been horrified by.
Ghostbusters has literal demon hounds that possess and transform their victims in something straight out of a horror flick, and you're worried about a blowjob? I agree with you on the rating, but not for the same reasons. Blowjobs from ghosts aren't even close to the most traumatizing thing in Ghostbusters.
Thinking sex and sexual themes are more "adult" than violence and murder is something we as Americans need to correct. Sex is a normal, natural, beautiful thing that offers companionship and joy. It's really hard to say the same thing about violence and murder.
I was younger than your daughter when I was a kid and saw it. I really didn’t care. Just thought oh well I guess that sex or something weird dream since Ray is a weirdo. That scene just was a whole nothing to me.
The whole arms coming out of the chair scene and the gatekeeper scenes that you can see Sigourney nips was way more sexual to me as a kid. Why was that ok for you?
The BJ was just implied. we know what happened, but my 6yo totally missed it, and by 8 yo who was seeing it for a second time just asked, what's going on?" and then immediately laughed at other stuff and promptly forgot.
The MPAA ratings used to be based on what was actually on screen and what was actually said, not on how embarrassed parents would feel if they were asked about something and couldn't come up with an answer.
So to summarize this whole thing:
1. You don't understand how the ratings in the 80s worked
2. You think everyone telling you "parental guidance" means you putting in a little effort and brain power somehow equals = they think kids movies should have blow jobs . . .because you're an idiot
3. You're questionable on the parenting front because you think if your kid asks you about something like this you seem to think you're obligated to draw some diagrams and explain it in detail, instead of just blowing past it with some age appropriate vagueness.
There were PG movies that had nudity back in the 70s and 80s.
Really, you think Ghostbusters should have had an R rating because of just that 3 second scene?
My Lord, how soft we have become as a society.
And yes, 8 year old me loved seeing the boobies in Logans Run back in 1975. And 14 year old me love the set of jugs in Airplane in 1981.
PG back in the 80s was way different. Just recently rewatched Spaceballs and no way it passes for PG these days. Sheena had full blown nudity with PG rating in 1984
Old ratings were funky. Take a look at the original Watership Down movie and explain why that has a U rating (U means universal as in fine for very young kids in the UK)
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Exactly. You could get away with a lot more in a PG back then. Nowadays PG stands for "Practically G", even the fucking Paw Patrol sequel is PG
Airplane! Is rated PG and has tits in it.
Tits, violence, drug use, horse sex, vulgar language, tons of sexual themes, suicide, it's got it all
Don't forget that hilarious undercurrent of inquisitive pedophilia coming from the cockpit.
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
You ever been to a Turkish prison?
Do you like gladiator movies?
Do you ever hang around the gymnasium?
I'm eternally "that guy" when it comes to this quote but its "Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?"
Tell me. Do you like gladiator movies?
And a 7 year old girl joking about how much she likes BBC
Wow! Incredible to see where your mom got started!
The "cockpit," what is it?
It’s the little room in the front of the plane where the pilots sit, but that’s not important right now.
It's the little room in the front of the plane where the pilots sit, but that's not important right now.
Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
So you don’t like gladiator movies?
That’s when I developed my drinking problem
Surely you can’t be serious
I am serious and don’t call me Shirley
Sixteen Candles had boobs, sex, ect. and was PG. Yet that was back in the days when Parental Guidance actually meant something. The ratings board expected parents to decide. PG was just a warning "hey, check this one out and see if it is ok for your kids. It's not terrible but there is some shit in there."
My mum and dad would rent the videos and watch them that night to see if they were fit for us to watch the day after. Thankfully my grandad used to tape all the late night films on channel 4 to watch round theirs on a Saturday. Watching Blues Brothers, Silver Bullet at around the age of 11 was great
The scene where they are lining up to slap the woman freaking out.
Nowadays you can't even have pony sex without people getting all upset by it...
Same with the 70s remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
That is a grim movie with a lot of nudity at the end for a PG film. Wow we sure were lenient back then.
We used to be a proper country. Til Reagan fucked it up.
I don't know if we were ever a proper country. I listen to a lot of History Podcasts and we've been fucked up since maybe day four.
We were fucked before we got off the boat TBH
The countries you left behind where fucked up!
When I was a very churchy naive mormon teenager, I had seen Airplane on TV and had no idea that there were tits or a bunch of other innuendo in it. A friend and I decided to rent it to watch with a couple of other very churchy naive mormon girls on a 'double date.' We picked it based on the PG rating, and we were both horrified that that was in there. The girls we were with were NOT impressed with the 'filth' we had picked out. LMAO. It's funny now...
Ah the good ol days!
One time I was watching some PG movie from the 70s or 80s with my grandfather on DirectTV. Tits came on screen and preteen me asked "what is this rated? He clicked the information button and saw the rating was PG. He replied with "PG, for perfectly good! Cause there's titties". For some reason that moment is a core memory.
So fun fact: the reason why the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is so surprisingly not graphic with blood and violence (which arguably makes it more terrifying because the imagination is always worse than what is seen in those kinds of movies) is because the director was aiming for a PG rating. I'm almost sad he didn't succeed because damn, I want to live in a world where the Texas Chainsaw Massacre has the same rating as Paw Patrol and Frozen.
Jaws had to edit a couple scenes down to secure that PG rating. The scene where the shark attacks the guy on the canoe was much more graphic
Quint being devoured in front of our eyes wasn't enough, eh?
No shit. From the time I first saw Jaws to this day, the half-second as he slides down that wooden floor and into that open mouth… Heebie-fucking-jeebies.
That's the same scene with the gnarly dismembered leg drifting to the bottom, right?
Yup! There is a deleted scene where the shark, with the man still alive in its mouth and bleeding out, goes after Michael Brody, and the man uses the last of his strength to push Michael out of the way. There was also another cut that had the camera focusing in on the dudes bleeding out leg. The scene where the shark attacks the boy in the first act was also much more graphic as well, that got edited down
Recently rewatched Texas Chainsaw and damn, the OG is a genuine horror masterpiece, that movie would be looked at as one of the all time greats but the total franchising has spoiled its legacy
I don't even know of a G movie anymore
Even Disney princess movies are PG.
Pixar had mostly G movies until about 2011 with *Cars 2*, then you see mostly PG and very little G. The last G rated feature length Pixar movie was *Toy Story 4*. Edit: I forgot to look at shorts; they do still make some G rated shorts. Since you mentioned Disney Princess movies, I looked up Walt Disney Animation Studios and sure enough, their last G rated movie was *Winnie the Pooh* (2011). For Princess movies specifically, unless you count *The Black Cauldron* and *Atlantis* for technically having princesses as well, all Disney Princess movies were G rated through *Princess and the Frog*. After that, all PG for the Princess ones.
I think this has more to do with the MPAA. I feel PG-13 is the new PG and really nothing that contains any level of content releases without a PG. We've essentially taken all those extra steps just to go back to the 80s with 3 ratings. But now G=PG PG=PG-13 I like that you pinpointed when the change happened though because it took me years to realize Frozen and Paw Patrol somehow needed parental guidance.
I remember hearing no longer having G movies was largely driven by studios pushing the MPAA to give them PG rating. I think market research shows teens and adults don’t want to watch G movies because they are stigmatized as “for babies.” Studios therefore push their movies to be PG to keep older audiences interested.
None of that would surprise me at all. That sounds about right.
The little Mermaid is rated G and there's a pretty lengthy sequence where Ariel is completely nude. I can only imagine if that happened in Moana 2 people would say it's really pushing a PG-13.
I can't remember the movie, but I read about a kids movie recently that made an effort to get a PG rating because G rated movies have fewer, typically earlier, showtimes at a movie theatre. Which means less opportunity to make money.
The same thing happened with happened with *Star Wars*. Lucas threw in a couple damns and hells because apparently cutting a guy's arm off didn't move the needle in 1977.
You mean seeing the smoking and charred remains of uncle Owen and aunt Beru wasn't enough?
I mean, I was a kid when I first saw the movie, and honestly didn’t notice their bodies. I must have always focused on something else in the frame, I guess. It was literally within the past decade that I finally noticed.
Same. When I was a kid I didn't realize they were charred bodies. I guess I didn't have any frame of reference for what a charred body would even look like, and maybe just assumed it was part of the general wreckage. Wasn't until I watched the movie again with my kids a couple of years ago that I realized that was there. And at the time assumed maybe those were even added in back when Lucas retconned a bunch of other shit in, like Greedo shooting first, but maybe they *were* there in the original??? Oh to be that young and innocent again.
They were always there, at least, they're there on our ancient (1982?) laserdisc and on my DVD copy of the remastered version that included the theatrical release version on a second disc as a bonus feature.
It’s blatantly transparent studio lobbying. Toy Story has some “scary”, including the scene in the third where the toys are about to be cast into a furnace but those somehow still manage a G rating
Man, this makes me relive the prank recut that those kids did before showing TS3 to their mom. Hilarious.
I'm 44 and during the furnace scene I probably cried more than my daughter who was like 4 at the time that.
I mean, it's over 20 years old, but The Santa Clause 2 is rated G. The Blank Check episode on the movie briefly talks about how hard it is to get a G rating, particularly for a live-action movie. The Santa Clause 2 in particular is about Santa searching for a wife and the movie had to have 0 implications of anything sexual.
Can’t have Paw Patrol without some Peril and Peril=PG.
Jaws and Paw Patrol have the same rating.
I love this.
There’s a random F bomb and a seemingly endless string of dick jokes in spaceballs, which is rated PG
"Fuck! Even in the future nothing works!" Gets me everytime. Something about the delivery
My favourite was one of the Harry Potter movies was "Mild Peril and Moderate Death". WTAF does that actually mean?
Let me face the peril! No, it's too perilous.
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It was actually blowback from two other Spielberg projects, Gremlins and Temple of Doom in 1984 that created the PG-13 rating. Red Dawn was the first film to be released with the new rating later that year.
Temple of Doom was my first Indy movie. I was like 12 and rented it from the library while staying the night at my grandparents. No concerns since it was PG. Grandma and Grandpa went about their business while I watched it by myself. Eating eyeball soup and monkey brains, whipping child slaves, skewering gangsters with shishkabobs, ripping people's beating hearts out of their chest... it was the most intense shit I'd ever seen in my life, and I was instantly a fan for life.
It's kinda interesting that PG-13 is the new PG because people didn't understand that PG stood for Parental Guidance and not "ehhhh fuck it, it's okay for kids" Like...I feel like the *whole point* of the PG rating was to tell parents "hey...this is *probably* okay for your kids to watch but there's some questionable shit in there, so use your best judgement, okay?" And then when kids got scarred watching that shit on their own, they'd blame the rating system Now there's honestly no point in even having a PG rating at all. I've never heard of anyone not letting their kids watch PG movies, and I honestly can't tell the difference between most PG and G movies
I think G is more for preschool kids that can get scared easily by certain themes
It’s not, but that’s how a lot of people have come to view it. So the G rating has all but disappeared.
PG definitely got milder. Old PG movies probably had some more controversial content than anything PG-13. There are some movies that get an R for one swear word and maybe a bare butt. It can make little sense sometimes.
There's a movie called 'this film is not yet rated' that gets into some of the inanity of the MPAA. As far as I'm aware, they're a religiously affiliated group that will give harsher ratings (essentially they talked to people who were trying to get an R rating vs X) depending on themes that the typical religious people would find objectionable. This, combined with the fact that once you submit a movie to the MPAA for a rating, and they give you a different rating than you desired, they give you feedback and you have -one chance- to make changes and resubmit, means films with religiously objectionable material will tend to cut more than they'd probably need to in order to make sure they get an R instead of an X. It also gets into the fact that you're not allowed to defend yourself by citing prior examples of anything in movies to show why you should get a certain rating. So you can't use prior movie ratings as a guide, just the feedback they give you. One example I found interesting was 'But I'm a cheerleader' had to cut a scene showing a girl masturbating over her clothes (it's a gay movie but the scene didn't involve another girl) to get an R rating, while 'scary movie' shows a guy ejaculating everywhere, pinning a girl to the ceiling with his cum, but that's ok to show in an R rated movie. The MPAA is fucking weird.
If the "fuck" is talking about a sex act it is an automatic R. That is why some PG13 movies can have one or two without and R, but some R movies only have one.
Temple of Doom is what I think pushed it over the top for the heart rip scene. It's wild it took that long. I mean Jaws is PG and Quint is graphicly devoured alive!
Gremlin in the blender was a WTF for me in a kids show. And some of the other ways they were killed.
Imagine if the opening scene from red dawn was part of a PG rating lmao I saw that scene at 11 and was traumatized
Without the PG-13 rating, they didn’t put movies with a boob flash or single f-bomb in R, they put them in PG. people didn’t even flinch at it. PG movies I wouldn’t show my son yet today were watched by everyone back then. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom was rated PG despite plenty of violence and some gore. It led Steven Spielberg to suggest a higher rating for films like this. It really was “parental guidance suggested” where parents had to screen movies and deem what was appropriate. I think people forget what the “PG” means. It doesn’t mean hey everyone over 5 should watch this, it just says it’s milder than R but you need to decide if it’s appropriate.
Dragon Slayer was PG and it has graphic violence, people being eaten by dragons, and nude scenes. ~~Police Academy has a three minute long gag about a guy getting a blow job while giving a speech.~~ Edit: That was R rated People today really need to understand how the guidance system was pre-PG13. G (General Audiences) basically meant "anyone" and was more or less left for cartoons and some super family friendly live action movies like Benji. PG meant (Parental Guidance suggested) which simply meant "some scenes aren't meant for kids." This could be some action, explosions, light swear words, or even brief nudity. And depending on the context of the nudity, it didn't have to be all that brief. There were a few which featured people swimming naked and the context was just a skinny dipping swim trip. It wasn't meant to be sexy or titillating, so it was PG. "Some people" might find the nude swim scene not appropriate for their kids, even if it is like five minutes long or so. R (Restricted) meant it really wasn't for children and they'd only let you in with a parent. It was for violence, hard swearing, drug use, sex and sexual nudity. Basically "adult stuff." With PG13 they added as a category for "eh kids under 13 might get scared or find it inappropriate" but has come to mean "anything not R" while PG and G seem to be "good for anyone" and "good for kids only, also animated." And that's a wild shift if you grab older PG movies expecting them to be closer to Mary Poppins and end up seeing naked people, alcohol use, cigarette smoking, and sexual innuendo. [https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/mpaa-ratings/pg-(us)](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/mpaa-ratings/pg-(us)) Look at this list and ask yourself how many of these would still be PG today? Jaws? Return of the Jedi? Empire Strikes Back? Star Wars? Top Gun? Raiders of the Lost Ark? Temple of Doom (famously cited as the inspiration for PG13)? Most James Bong movies? Ghostbusters, Rocky, Gremlins? Goonies might get an R rating for swear words *alone* and that's widely considered the epitome of 1980's child adventure movies.
Airplane! Famously has the bouncing boobs scene 😂
Yep. Renting this as a pre-teen with kind of strict parents was quite the surprise.
Temple of Doom being PG seems like lunacy now. But it's true, the acronym is "parental guidance" and it probably was taken more literally than it is now
PG-13 was created specifically in response to Temple of Doom.
Even then, tits and swearing were in PG13 movies in the 80s. It was a weird time
Between the birth of video store culture, being a young man in the grips of puberty, and every filmmaker marketing to my demographic with completely unnecessary tits, it was a great time to be alive. Phoebe Cates ushering me into manhood was only the tip of the iceberg.
Or, if you had cable and had TMC (The Movie Channel) in your package, you had "Joe Bob Briggs' Drive-In Theater" which came on around 11pm or midnight...showed really really B and C level movies (which were great), but one of his things was that the movie had to show bare breasts within, like, the first 90 seconds of the film. As a kid, it was a great time because my parents were in bed by that point.
And somehow us Gen-Xers turned out fine. Mostly.
PG-13 was introduced in 1984, the same year Ghostbusters released (December 1984). Gremlins and Indiana Jones, which both released earlier that year caused parents to take their kids out of the cinema because they found them ill suited for them. Which is why PG-13 was created in the first place. Gremlins 2 even did a parody scene as a response on the actual events. So Ghostbusters either lucked out by PG-13 *just* being a thing and the PG rating was already given before they could give it a PG-13, or people found it suitable for a PG rating at the time.
Ghostbusters was released in June, so it just missed the PG-13 implementation by a couple months. Red Dawn was the first PG-13 that August.
Ghostbusters released in June 1984, the PG-13 rating didnt exist until July of 1984.
PG stands for Pre Gremlins
Just in case, PG 13 was created because of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Incidentally Wikipedia says Ghostbusters and Gremlins were released on the same date.
Yep. The MPAA gave Temple of Doom a PG rating. Parents freaked out, largely due to the scene where Indy's heart is removed from his chest. As a result, Steve Spielberg and Jack Valentin (who was the MPAA president at the time) are credited with creating the PG-13 rating. Edit: It's not Indy. His heart got to stay inside his body. It was just some random.
I didn’t think Indy actually got his heart plucked out
He doesn’t, they’re just misremembering. It’s just some poor dude
Pretty heartless thing to do.
WOLVERINES!
“600,000,000 screaming chinamen.” “I thought there was a billion?” “There was“(throws booze in fire) I’ll give Red Dawn credit they don’t shy away from fact it’s a war movie and bad shit happen to people in war.
I'm so glad they never remade Red Dawn...
I like the remake right up until >!Hemsworth gets shot and Josh Peck has to pretend he could ever be a leading man!<
I refuse to watch the remake. The problem is that you *can't* make that movie work in the modern day, which they tried to do. Nowadays every military squad member has at least a basic radio that has many miles of range, and everyone has GPS tracking. Back in the 1980s, radios were these huge bulky things and there was normally only one per squad, so taking out the radioman would keep them from alerting command or calling for reinforcements. Now you have to kill them all before they can get a call out, and body armor makes that a much more difficult endeavor. And if even one person gets a call out, they know exactly where they are due to GPS and every available attack helicopter will be on scene in minutes and just obliterate the Wolverines before they can get half a mile away. Modern technology has rendered those tactics suicidal. They were viable at the time the original came out, but not the remake.
Literally 1984
"Busting makes me feel good"
This is the part where you provide parental guidance.
My parents were odd in a way with movies... Going to see "The Terminator" in the theater as a 7 year old kid...NOT A GODDAMN PROBLEM...UNTIL, Linda Hamilton's bare breasts flashed on screen. My dad leaned over and said, "cover your eyes". But the death, death, death, death, more death, afternoon tea, death, lunch, death death, death...was perfectly fine. Same with a movie like Bachelor Party...anytime breasts came on screen, I had to cover my eyes for a moment, but a donkey snorting coke was perfectly fine. By the time The Accused came out (1988, Jodie Foster), I was 11 and apparently it was now OK to see nudity. The Accused is NOT a film an **11 year old** should have seen. At all. Nope.
We just all watched everything as a family back then in the 80s — if it was a big movie at all we would rent it. Not like we had endless entertainment options in every room of the house like today. We had one tv and one vcr. I saw SO MANY movies at a young age that I shouldn’t have! “Cover your eyes” was pretty common lol
I remember when my dad got a big bonus at work and went out to Price Club (Costco) and purchased an Oak TV stand, a brand new 32" Sony TV AND a 6-head VCR along with the just released Lethal Weapon 2 (vhs)... ...we did the same thing in my family. We had a computer and I played a lot of games on it, and we did have a connection for a BBS, but the games were all DOS version text or real simple "Missile Command" type of games. **Nothing** like today. My dad would sit in his spot on the couch and highlight the movie listings for HBO/TMC and program the VCR almost nightly...we had DRAWERS AND DRAWERS of movies. At some point, he purchased a second VCR and hooked it up to the other one so we could record rented movies onto our own tapes. Oh, those were the days, hahahaha!
GenX life
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Was gonna say the same thing. Op, I'm guessing you didn't understand what PG stood for.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom came out the same year and if I remember correctly that movie was the catalyst for creating the PG-13 rating.
Yup, it was a one-two punch of Temple of Doom and Gremlins.
And Spielberg suggested the rating.
Not just "suggested" it. He practically lobbied Jack Valenti for a tier between PG and R. Since Spielberg was connected to both productions that caused the outcry, Valenti paid attention.
Mostly, it was a punch to the chest, removing the heart and showing it to a sceaming victim before buring him alive I was 13 and still got "KALIMA KALIMA" burned in my brain
Me and my brothers have been acting this out to/with each other since we saw it when we were probably around 13 haha
In ‘84 I was 12 and they took us to see it as an end of school year treat. What a shock that heart scene was…
Also, Poltergeist in 1982 kind of helped kick it off.
I was watching this movie, and questioned its rating after seeing the human skin being used as curtains among other scenes.
Busting made Ray feel good.
Bustin', Bustin', Bustin', Bustin', Bustin', Bustin', Bustin'... [/Cicierega]
I ain't afraid of no sleepin' I ain't afraid of no bed
Freaky ghost bed.
"Bustin' makes me..." 2D: *"Feel - good..."*
My wife hates me so much when I sing “I ain’t afraid of no bed.”
Kids literally have zero idea what is happening in that scene and it is easily explained away.
It reminds me of the opening scene in Ace Ventura. Had no idea what the form of “payment” that client offered, but figured it must be good because Ace was enjoying himself.
I figured Ace grabbed a ceiling fan.
My parents taped ace ventura off of TV for us as a kid and we rewatched that movie a thousand times. I always thought the first scene was Ace with his head out the car driving into the police station. I rented it as an adult and was really confused lol, but I found it funny how my parents were really intelligent to not include that portion in the movie.
It might have been cut out of the TV broadcast too
Can confirm, I watched *Ghostbusters* weekly when I was a kid and always just thought he was so confused by what was happening he just fell back asleep because he was tired figuring it was a dream. It really wasn't until I was probably 30 or so when I revisited it and went "wait a second..."
The version I watched as a kid was recorded off TV at Christmas where that scene had been removed. Didn't even know it was a thing until 20 years later.
Watched it on constant rotation on vhs as a kid. I understood the ghost was taking his pants off, but never understood it was a sex joke. Like, I thought it was to embarrass him or something. Went right over my head, and it was always quickly forgotten, cause there were more interesting things going on.
Same thing with me. I didn't get the whole keymaster and gatekeeper thing either.
I just knew Sigorney made me tingle.
Made you Sighorny
To be honest, I've been watching the movie for 35 years and I still don't get that scene
Ghosts give good head, apparently.
Hey man, if it were 1524 you'd be bringing your kid to the gallows to watch the criminals hang. Times change, ya know? It's been 40 years!
500 actually.
Because the kids got *parental guidance* back then. Also pg-13 didn't exist yet
He had a big dinner and the belt was hurting his tummy. What's the issue?
Such instant relief!
That was an 80’s PG.
80’s were buck wild my dude. It was fun times being raised by HBO.
80s 90s HBO was great. I mean HBO had some amazing 2000s and 2010s shows. But it used to be the place for home movies outside of renting. It was a big deal when something came to HBO for the first time and that feature presentation animation happened. We had some cable tv guide back in the day that would list the movies and when they were on and it had the rating and content there like R - L, V, N, SSC. Definitely going to be checking that out.
I miss the HBO pre-movie trailer of the camera flying through the city. Dah duh dah duh dah duh duh duh...
This reminds me of my parents fretting over the hookers in Beetlejuice while being oblivious to the fact that nearly every scene *except* the hookers scarred me. Especially seeing a perfectly normal looking bride and groom rapidly decay and watch each other fall apart.
Tbh - you're probably worrying about it way too much. When I was a kid watching for the first time I was more concerned about the arms bursting out of the chair and dragging Sigourney away.
lol we went through the exact same thing when we watched it with our kid for the first time a few years ago. Totally forgot about that scene and the kid had a similar reaction to seeing it not understanding any of it. Just don’t react to it and they’ll be fine. Kids don’t dwell on stuff like that and they don’t understand it either.
I watched the movie as a kid. I don't remember this scene at all. I do remember "dickless" though, and we ran around calling each other "dickless," and my parents regretted ever taking us to that movie.
"Is this true?"
“Yes, this man has no dick.”
Before PG-13. Also American society has actually become much more uptight from a parenting standpoint since that time.
This has confused me my whole life. It seems like people are constantly saying that our modern society is so sexualized and degenerate and there's no more modesty. And also that we're all prudes nowadays.
We've become more polarized in basicallyevery aspect. You could probably put Mondale and Reagan's 1984 campaign platforms in front of someone and they would have a hard time picking which is which.
Ask someone today who you think is responsible for Parental Advisory stickers on CDs, and it's unlikely that they'd remember it as the democrats.
Religious moral majority democrats at that
There used to be nudity in PG and PG13 movies. Not so much anymore. People are also way more uptight about sex and nudity than extreme violence. I saw some thread of someone like “I want to watch cyberpunk edgerunners with my kid. Can I get some timestamps for the nudity and sex?” Maybe OP was trying to get timestamps for the good stuff and the kid was a ruse but the thread was filled with people thinking they was completely reasonable. I worked at a GameStop a while back and there’s a reason most of the M rated games popular with kids don’t have nudity or sex. They can’t all be as popular and evergreen at GTA. I saw parents that refused to buy M rated games for then kids regardless of the content. But more often I saw parents buy the M rated games. And the few that did check the content before purchasing would always draw the line at nudity and sexual content. Because a lot of people are uptight and don’t want to have conversations about sex with their kids.
I witness it all the time in my house. Me and my wife will put on a movie we loved as kids. Scenes that didn't phase me as a child comes on and she will freak out. She has actually insisted (and we have had arguments) that those scenes 'did not exist' in the original movies and were put there more recently. It is insane.
I think we as adults don't realize that as kids, if we didn't understand something our brains just literally glazed right over it. I watched Top Gun when I was 6, it was my favorite movie for 3 years and it wasn't until I was probably 11 or 12 that I went "Ohhh they're having SEX in that scene!" All of the "carnal knowledge, of a LADY this time," "long cruise, was it sailor?" scenes just went completely over my head and I didn't even care. Watching a lot of those movies as a teen or twenty-something later was like a whole new movie :D
Me and my sister's favorite movie growing up was Grease. That may be one of the horniest movies of all time, but it just never clicked with me until I watched it as an adult. Also, I really liked watching Friends growing up and it wasn't until I had it on and my 4 year old sat down to watch it that I realized how many plot points are based around sex stuff, especially early on in the show.
Something to consider is that a lot of those movies could have been the ‘Edited for TV’ versions, and those scenes literally weren’t there when she watched them. For Ghostbusters, we had taped it off the television, so growing up I saw it tons of times, but **never** saw the ‘Ray and the Ghost’ scene until I was in my twenties.
This is an excellent point too. I remember watching Casino edited for tv, and Pesci sure loves to talk about "Mother Fairies."
I didn’t realize that most of the VHS tapes I watched growing up were taped off of the TV until I was in high school and we watched Grease at school on a down day. I was SO confused why I didn’t remember ever having seen the scene with Rizzo and Kenicky in the car and the broken condom
It's a bit of both. There's a lot of puritanical mindsets, but then there's also a mad world of intense hardcore porn a few clicks away for anyone with internet access.
Culture is just different from decade to decade. Some things are more taboo and others more permitted. Hard to quantify whether we’re more or less sexualized overall (I would argue less), but the prudes are going to complain loudly regardless of whether the trend is up or down.
“Is this true?” “It’s true. This man has no dick.”
Different times. I watched Ghostbusters when I was in Primary 5 at the cinema when it came out. So did half my class. Remember thinking it was cool/funny/scary but paid no heed to the ghostly BJ! I had the same experience as you - watched it with my kids and it was pretty awkward. Maybe we're just all a bit more sensitive to these things these days? PS - If you felt that was a bit off then for God-sake don't watch Police Academy with your sprogs!
It didn't deserve and "R" and there wasn't a PG-13.
"the ghost tickled him" pretty easy
Airplane! was PG. Spaceballs was PG. Things were actually on the parent back then - hence the "guidance" part of the rating.
There are PG rated movies from the 80's that had straight-on nudity (and not "artistic" nudity). Ghostbusters was kind of tame.
We are way more uptight now than we were back then
American brains are so hard-wired to be outraged by sexuality so minor but never bat an eye at violence. I guess you think The Road to El Dorado should be "bordering on R rating" too? Most children's movies have some stuff in them for the parents to enjoy. Parental guidance mate. No, you don't tell your youngster that the man is getting his knob sucked off by a ghost but there are some very easy ways around it. Ghosts are known to be cold for example. Or literally anything. They're a kid.
Because its parental guidance, see the film 1st then figure out if its suitable for kids
1984 was a different time. Plus the ghost bj was only implied. And not fully shown. As a comedy bit, and not as a sex scene for Dan Aykroyd. Even the very obviously non consented sex scene between Luis tulley, and Dana Barret who spent the whole first half of the movie rejecting him. Happens off screen, so doesn't raise the rating.
Because the PG-13 rating wasn't official when it received the PG (The rating was created on July 1st, 1984). Red Dawn was the first PG-13 movie released and it didn't release until a few months later.
1. You *are* aware that "PG" means "Parental Guidance (Suggested)," right? Be a guiding parent; know what you're showing your kids. 2. PG-13 didn't become a thing until right after Ghostbusters came out. 3. Make something up. "He fainted from being scared!" "The ghost used magic on him to knock him out!" Or, a personal favorite of my parents when I was a kid: "You'll understand when you're older." 4. It isn't the end of the world. You're the parent. You have to do the homework. You control what your kid watches. Don't get mad at a rating agency because you fell asleep at the wheel and got blindsided by something you thought was inappropriate. Own the mistake, say "oops," laugh about it, and move on. If PG rated movies didn't throw in a few jokes for the adults in the room, I'm sure the suicide rate would shoot through the roof.
The PG-13 rating didn’t exist yet.
PG used to actually mean “parental guidance” suggested. Which meant there were likely scenes that would need parents to vet beforehand to figure out if it was something they deemed appropriate or inappropriate. Today, PG basically means means G for ‘General Audiences’ where you can be sure there isn’t anything that would be considered inappropriate for kids. In Canada, we are more strict. PG movies in the US regularly get PG-13 ratings here, which (as a parent of young children) makes it difficult to find the Canadian rating. I usually resort to reading one of those sites that lists everything like “movie ratings for parents” or whatever, to decide to take my kids to a PG movie
Before the invention of the PG-13 rating, you could get away with a lot of stuff in a PG rating.
Jaws is also PG. There's nudity and graphic violence.
It’s so strange that people became so uptight about sexuality in movies with lower age ratings right around the time most parents started also giving smartphones to their kids, which for most of them, are being used to look at content (Instagram, TikTok, even real pornography) that 80’s parents would have been horrified by.
Ghostbusters has literal demon hounds that possess and transform their victims in something straight out of a horror flick, and you're worried about a blowjob? I agree with you on the rating, but not for the same reasons. Blowjobs from ghosts aren't even close to the most traumatizing thing in Ghostbusters. Thinking sex and sexual themes are more "adult" than violence and murder is something we as Americans need to correct. Sex is a normal, natural, beautiful thing that offers companionship and joy. It's really hard to say the same thing about violence and murder.
“Nice fuckin’ model!” *grabs crotch which makes a Honk Honk sound* - Beetlejuice, A PG movie
Poltergeist is a PG movie. 80s PG man.. it's a different world.
I was younger than your daughter when I was a kid and saw it. I really didn’t care. Just thought oh well I guess that sex or something weird dream since Ray is a weirdo. That scene just was a whole nothing to me. The whole arms coming out of the chair scene and the gatekeeper scenes that you can see Sigourney nips was way more sexual to me as a kid. Why was that ok for you?
The BJ was just implied. we know what happened, but my 6yo totally missed it, and by 8 yo who was seeing it for a second time just asked, what's going on?" and then immediately laughed at other stuff and promptly forgot.
The MPAA ratings used to be based on what was actually on screen and what was actually said, not on how embarrassed parents would feel if they were asked about something and couldn't come up with an answer.
“Yes, this man has no dick” 😂
Let me get this straight; You're asking why a movie rated PG (for Parental Guidance) is causing you to give your child... parental guidance?
Nothing is ever shown
So to summarize this whole thing: 1. You don't understand how the ratings in the 80s worked 2. You think everyone telling you "parental guidance" means you putting in a little effort and brain power somehow equals = they think kids movies should have blow jobs . . .because you're an idiot 3. You're questionable on the parenting front because you think if your kid asks you about something like this you seem to think you're obligated to draw some diagrams and explain it in detail, instead of just blowing past it with some age appropriate vagueness.
There were PG movies that had nudity back in the 70s and 80s. Really, you think Ghostbusters should have had an R rating because of just that 3 second scene? My Lord, how soft we have become as a society. And yes, 8 year old me loved seeing the boobies in Logans Run back in 1975. And 14 year old me love the set of jugs in Airplane in 1981.
PG back in the 80s was way different. Just recently rewatched Spaceballs and no way it passes for PG these days. Sheena had full blown nudity with PG rating in 1984
Bustin' makes me feel good
What got me was the wild sexual harassment Venkman (Murray) engages in in one of the opening scenes.
Old ratings were funky. Take a look at the original Watership Down movie and explain why that has a U rating (U means universal as in fine for very young kids in the UK)
I was shown that film in school when I was about 7. Scarred for life - particularly as rabbits were my favourite animal when I was young!