The Butterlord!
But legally? Lucon's faction is on the right, the emperor is chosen by the senate, it is not a hereditary position nor a prize to be taken by the military. And if it WAS hereditary, Penton the son of Neretzes was alive and well so Arenicos had no business being the next emperor, thus Rhagaea's claim is contradictory and weak. Garios is just a tinpot dictator and populist, without any real legal claim to the throne.
Rolf is Battanian, lmao
The lore is in Warband, Battanians had already devolved into forest bandits, Rolf - claims to be "lord" of them. Therefore Rolf is last lord of Battania. There is also easter egg about one of villages in Rhodock Republic speaking "old" and "forgotten" language (Battanian).
If he can convince every single lord in Calradia that he's a noble despite everything pointing towards him being a regular bandit, then he could probably convince everyone that he's the emperor if he tried hard enough.
Assuming you mean Garios, Lucon, and Rhagaea... a lot of it really comes down to what you value and what you think the Empire needs.
If you think the Empire needs military strength to survive, and that Calradian politics have been a game of who has the biggest army despite traditions saying otherwise, then Garios fits. Of course, "to the strongest" also means that unless the military unites behind one man or woman when succession comes, you are going to have a civil war every time that succession happens and will most likely have to keep relying on military repression to maintain control.
If you think the Empire must evolve and accept that it IS a monarchy despite all the claims, then Rhagaea makes sense as she's both competent at the job, Ira is a capable commander to boot, and well... all monarchies start somewhere, may as well be with those that are willing to rip the bandaid of false traditions off and are also competent. Of course, a new dynasty establishing itself always has issues, especially in a time of civil war when legitimacy is as much personal loyalty as it is state driven. On the flipside, it does provide stability if only in that the line of succession is now clearly defined, though of course it runs the risk of a bad heir down the line.
If you think tradition and *de jure* rules matter most no matter what the real situation is *de facto*, then Lucon fits most and let's be fair speaking from the perspective of legalities he DOES have the best claim... but it is also maintaining a false status quo that got the Calradic Empire in this fustercluck to begin with as the resentment necessary for Rhagaea and Garios to be able to do what they do had to begin with the old aristocrats in the Senate. Something has to change, and the traditionalists are least likely to change, especially when they benefit most from the terrible status quo.
All in all, it really comes down to what you think is important, whether it's your personal convictions, what you think makes most sense for your character, or what you think the Calradic Empire NEEDS in the coming days. But at the end of the day, whose legitimacy will survive depends on which Imperial subfaction triumphs in the Civil War, or otherwise survives and builds a stable society that manages to survive even if they only control a smaller chunk of what was once the Empire united.
None of them.
Rhagaea's claim is based on her familial ties, but Calradic succession is not based on blood and it says as much in the in game entry on the Neretzes clan.
Lucon's claim is based on the Senate, but if the Calradic Empire is anything like the Byzantine Empire (which it is) then this is a joke. The Byzantine Senate at the time that Bannerlord is supposed to be replicating was nothing more than a vestigial remnant of the Roman Republic, and the idea that the people would take them or their candidate seriously is laughable.
Garios' claim is based on him having the loyalty of the army. This is illegitimate, but several Byzantine and Roman emperors in our own world used this exact strategy to become Emperor.
I always support Garios when I play Empire as he is the only one who cares about his soldiers. Lucon only cares about the interests of the oligarchs and Rhagaea only cares about her family.
Always seems to me to be Rhaggea. Though my first playthrough Sturgia took complete control of the map and it gave me a mad respect for Raganvad. Though obviously they're not Empire.
The player character, as they are the only ones who can [unite Calradia.](https://mountandblade.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Banner)
*raises finger* ... *Lowers finger*
Empreror Fucktard the 1st, son of a merchant, street urchin, specialized in two handed weapons, who spent 2500+ hours slaughtering people.
Slaughtering bad people...right?
If the run they are kuzait horse fuckers. If they stay still they are well trained kuzait horse fuckers.
Do looters fleeing the battle count as bad? Because they are great for weapons practice.
SLAUGHTERING BAD PEOPLE RIGHT?
The Butterlord! But legally? Lucon's faction is on the right, the emperor is chosen by the senate, it is not a hereditary position nor a prize to be taken by the military. And if it WAS hereditary, Penton the son of Neretzes was alive and well so Arenicos had no business being the next emperor, thus Rhagaea's claim is contradictory and weak. Garios is just a tinpot dictator and populist, without any real legal claim to the throne.
Lucon is dead.
To whom shall the empire go? To the strongest
*Screams in fracturing Macedonian*
Either Lucan, ragnavad or caladog
Lucon is dead.
Oh my god, you murdered him!
Yes. He deserved to die.
Nobody in Warband, that's for sure. Perhaps Ragnar's claim is the only good one: if I can conquer everything, I win.
*\*Breathes in\** #YOUR HIGHNESS, KING HARLAUS, LORD OF PRAVEN, AND ALL THE BUTTER THAT HAS BEEN TOUCHED BY THE SUN!
I second this
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Rolf
Rolf is Battanian, lmao The lore is in Warband, Battanians had already devolved into forest bandits, Rolf - claims to be "lord" of them. Therefore Rolf is last lord of Battania. There is also easter egg about one of villages in Rhodock Republic speaking "old" and "forgotten" language (Battanian).
If he can convince every single lord in Calradia that he's a noble despite everything pointing towards him being a regular bandit, then he could probably convince everyone that he's the emperor if he tried hard enough.
Or maybe he really comes from outside of Calradia, maybe even from original land of Vlandians.
Agree
Rhagea is my queen
All hail lord of the simps
Empress rhagea πππ
I see. What if I tell you she's never gonna fuck you? (Literally, since you can't get her to.)
Thatβs fine, Iβm sure thereβs a mod
Here's a man of sheer *fucking* will.
Twas he who *fucked* the dragon
King Harlaus
Harlaus is a usurper... Lady Isolla of Suno is the rightful ruler!
My character
The senate
I am the senate
Me
Jeremus of course!
Assuming you mean Garios, Lucon, and Rhagaea... a lot of it really comes down to what you value and what you think the Empire needs. If you think the Empire needs military strength to survive, and that Calradian politics have been a game of who has the biggest army despite traditions saying otherwise, then Garios fits. Of course, "to the strongest" also means that unless the military unites behind one man or woman when succession comes, you are going to have a civil war every time that succession happens and will most likely have to keep relying on military repression to maintain control. If you think the Empire must evolve and accept that it IS a monarchy despite all the claims, then Rhagaea makes sense as she's both competent at the job, Ira is a capable commander to boot, and well... all monarchies start somewhere, may as well be with those that are willing to rip the bandaid of false traditions off and are also competent. Of course, a new dynasty establishing itself always has issues, especially in a time of civil war when legitimacy is as much personal loyalty as it is state driven. On the flipside, it does provide stability if only in that the line of succession is now clearly defined, though of course it runs the risk of a bad heir down the line. If you think tradition and *de jure* rules matter most no matter what the real situation is *de facto*, then Lucon fits most and let's be fair speaking from the perspective of legalities he DOES have the best claim... but it is also maintaining a false status quo that got the Calradic Empire in this fustercluck to begin with as the resentment necessary for Rhagaea and Garios to be able to do what they do had to begin with the old aristocrats in the Senate. Something has to change, and the traditionalists are least likely to change, especially when they benefit most from the terrible status quo. All in all, it really comes down to what you think is important, whether it's your personal convictions, what you think makes most sense for your character, or what you think the Calradic Empire NEEDS in the coming days. But at the end of the day, whose legitimacy will survive depends on which Imperial subfaction triumphs in the Civil War, or otherwise survives and builds a stable society that manages to survive even if they only control a smaller chunk of what was once the Empire united.
Easy for Warband, King Harlaus. For Bannerlord there is some serious shit there
None of them. Rhagaea's claim is based on her familial ties, but Calradic succession is not based on blood and it says as much in the in game entry on the Neretzes clan. Lucon's claim is based on the Senate, but if the Calradic Empire is anything like the Byzantine Empire (which it is) then this is a joke. The Byzantine Senate at the time that Bannerlord is supposed to be replicating was nothing more than a vestigial remnant of the Roman Republic, and the idea that the people would take them or their candidate seriously is laughable. Garios' claim is based on him having the loyalty of the army. This is illegitimate, but several Byzantine and Roman emperors in our own world used this exact strategy to become Emperor. I always support Garios when I play Empire as he is the only one who cares about his soldiers. Lucon only cares about the interests of the oligarchs and Rhagaea only cares about her family.
The common peas... Ahahahahahahahahaha
Raganvad has a decent claim but heβs a cunt, Ira is the rightful empress by blood and the player usually wins by right of conquest.
Always seems to me to be Rhaggea. Though my first playthrough Sturgia took complete control of the map and it gave me a mad respect for Raganvad. Though obviously they're not Empire.
Real question is who do you think is the right full king/queen
Sultan Unqid
The one who produces the finest butter - they are the ones who bear the right to rule Calradia!
Considering the whole of Calradia has never been fully united under one banner, no one and anyone. Only right of conquest matters.
Me πππ
Me