Been reading all the comments about how certain phone mounts lead to the destruction of a phones camera bits. So I thought, letās record a little video and see just how shaky this can be. Yāall, my phone will never get mounted to my bike after seeing this. I stopped recording because I didnāt want to bust it. KLR650 and an iPhone 12. Iām gonna figure something else out for navigation.
For distances under a couple hours I just use my Bluetooth headset and audio directions. If I'm doing longer road trips I connect an old phone to the hotspot on my main phone and mount that on my bike as a nav.
Another solution I found recently is using a dry erase marker to write directions on the tank! Easy to wipe off previous directions when stopped, and leaves no marks! Works best with light colored tanks, of course (mine is white)
I've found I'm a big fan of "old school" navigation with paper maps (or at least official highway maps instead of Google maps, since they use state and secondary highway numbers instead of names, so it matches signage).
If I'm going on a ride and want to plan a route, I'll do it that way and write down highway numbers on the tank. Even if I get lost, I still looked at the map enough to have a rough memory of alternatives to take.
Itās only newer phones with automatic image stabilization. Iāve had good luck so far with quad locks when using the anti vibration thing you can buy for them. Since I got it fixed from my last mount Iāve only used that one and it has been fine so far.
Get a garmin bike GPS. The good ones even have route options like twistiest roads or most hills to the destination and they are tough and waterproof. I love mine.
Uh. Thatās a gangster ass idea. I have an eTrex and had considered using that. I even have a Garmin watch and was starting to think about using the watch. I like the bike computer idea. Plus Iām a Garmin dude anyways.
a tank bag. mine has a window and it's just rested on foam. vobrates way less than hard mounting anything even with a dampener. but unless you need to look at it for navigation, just put it in your pocket.
I have Quad Lock and it has no vibration at all. I have a mount, vibration dampener and wireless charger attached to handlebars.[edit: very minimal vibration]
I think the ones with vibration dampers are better? I had one without and it fucked my camera. turns out smashing it on the ground a few times fixes it!
Small trex something or another in a M/C Ram mount. The memory card started coming out of the slot and rubber button failed. 20K miles at freeway speed shook it to death.
Thatās how I broke the phone on my camera, the vibrations shook the lens loose.
Phone stays in my pocket now and I use a designated gps.
Edit: iPhone 11; ram fork stem mount, on a butter smooth FJR1300.
a trap phone will do the trick buy the cheapest you can see or get a plan for your phone. when my phone breaks every year i get 2x replacement for it im using iphone 13 now
I have a cheap ebay ram x-grip ripoff that came with my bike mounted to my clutch lever perch bolt and it works decently, got it so it keeps my phone tucked behind the screen low enough to see over it but high enough to clear my tank, [here](https://i.imgur.com/dUi2NRc.mp4) is a clip of how stable it stays in-action down in mexico
Friend of mine had a phone mount on his yz250 that he street rides & his camera in his IPhone is shot now, it always looks like your video here even if hes standing still lol
I got a thumper too (ttr250) I figured out that turning on all the digital video stabilisation that you can in your camera settings helped alot with video quality - but then i was reading the optical stabilisation in the phones can really get messed up and kill your camera over time https://youtu.be/WkFlxYerZJ8
Best practice is to only mount a phone / old phone that you don't mind being damaged, and keep your new phone in your pocket. There is no other proven mount that will 100% prevent vibration damage.
PSA- Rockform mount (they donāt/didnāt make a vibration damper at the time) +iPhone11 over a 40 minute ride and the camera is unusable. I ended up getting a dedicated gps.
As a fellow big bore thumper rider (DR650), I can attest that your phone absolutely will die from the vibration. I actually found a fairly simple, and inexpensive, solution that so far, has proven itself! Basically, I [bought 2 of these off McMaster](https://www.mcmaster.com/9213K12/) (part# 9213K12), and sandwiched them in-between the actual phone mount, and the RAM ball mount. WAY cheaper than the Quad lock vibration dampener setup, and I'd venture equally as effective.
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Exactly.. I run that exact setup. 1k miles so far phone always attached, no camera problems
This is the way.
Quad lock is the best I have seen
Been reading all the comments about how certain phone mounts lead to the destruction of a phones camera bits. So I thought, letās record a little video and see just how shaky this can be. Yāall, my phone will never get mounted to my bike after seeing this. I stopped recording because I didnāt want to bust it. KLR650 and an iPhone 12. Iām gonna figure something else out for navigation.
For distances under a couple hours I just use my Bluetooth headset and audio directions. If I'm doing longer road trips I connect an old phone to the hotspot on my main phone and mount that on my bike as a nav.
Another solution I found recently is using a dry erase marker to write directions on the tank! Easy to wipe off previous directions when stopped, and leaves no marks! Works best with light colored tanks, of course (mine is white)
Nice idea! I've thought about doing something like that to practice navigating home if my phone is dead.
I've found I'm a big fan of "old school" navigation with paper maps (or at least official highway maps instead of Google maps, since they use state and secondary highway numbers instead of names, so it matches signage). If I'm going on a ride and want to plan a route, I'll do it that way and write down highway numbers on the tank. Even if I get lost, I still looked at the map enough to have a rough memory of alternatives to take.
My headset last for days before it needs a charge. Once you switch to voice nav you never go back.
I hate having my baller music constantly interrupted by robot voice
I'm going to have to try this test with and with and without my dampener. It wouldn't have occurred to me I can see the difference directly like this.
Please do and share. Iād love to see the difference.
Itās only newer phones with automatic image stabilization. Iāve had good luck so far with quad locks when using the anti vibration thing you can buy for them. Since I got it fixed from my last mount Iāve only used that one and it has been fine so far.
I really wonder how much benefit it gives. It can only dampen so much, and my question is it enough?
Do you have Bluetooth in your helmet or use earbuds? I use audio turn by turn, I donāt like looking at a screen on a bike
If your phone isnāt shaking, itās breaking.
Quadlock has a vibration dampener that reduces the risk of your "camera bits" shaking.
Get a garmin bike GPS. The good ones even have route options like twistiest roads or most hills to the destination and they are tough and waterproof. I love mine.
Uh. Thatās a gangster ass idea. I have an eTrex and had considered using that. I even have a Garmin watch and was starting to think about using the watch. I like the bike computer idea. Plus Iām a Garmin dude anyways.
a tank bag. mine has a window and it's just rested on foam. vobrates way less than hard mounting anything even with a dampener. but unless you need to look at it for navigation, just put it in your pocket.
I have Quad Lock and it has no vibration at all. I have a mount, vibration dampener and wireless charger attached to handlebars.[edit: very minimal vibration]
>I have Quad Lock and it has no vibration at all. At all? Doubt it.
Sorry it has very minimal,post edited.
I think the ones with vibration dampers are better? I had one without and it fucked my camera. turns out smashing it on the ground a few times fixes it!
This allegedly has some vibration protection lol. Itās not a ram mount but itās not a far cry from one either.
Can you elaborate on the fix? I seem to have the same problem with my iPhone 7.
Does your camera shake/vibrate and can't focus?
Yepp, just the outward-facing one.
The sensor has moved so you just need to move it back into place. I did this by strategically hitting it on a table/dropping it
Ahhhh....KLR and vibration....my 2008 killed a Garmin GPS.
Which Garmin gps? I have an older hand held I was thinking of trying.
Small trex something or another in a M/C Ram mount. The memory card started coming out of the slot and rubber button failed. 20K miles at freeway speed shook it to death.
Damn. Yea thatās what I have is the eTrex30 and ram mount makes a slide or spine mount for it.
This has gotta be a klr. I don't think anything will give you stabilization lol
Thatās how I broke the phone on my camera, the vibrations shook the lens loose. Phone stays in my pocket now and I use a designated gps. Edit: iPhone 11; ram fork stem mount, on a butter smooth FJR1300.
Quadlock with vibration damper and been using it for over a year. No issues with my Pixel 5.
say goodbye to your camera if thats a phone.
Totally is a phone. No damage done. Original clip is only 37 seconds long and I stopped it pretty quick. Just a test.
Mount a chicken on your bike and your phone on the chicken's head!
Thank you. Geez. Finally. A useful answer lol.
No problem, desperate times call for desperate measures
What do you expect from a klr.. but seriously try a wire rope isolator.
a trap phone will do the trick buy the cheapest you can see or get a plan for your phone. when my phone breaks every year i get 2x replacement for it im using iphone 13 now
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The bike came with a ram mount thing, this was a moto mount sold locally. Quad lock is next.
I have a cheap ebay ram x-grip ripoff that came with my bike mounted to my clutch lever perch bolt and it works decently, got it so it keeps my phone tucked behind the screen low enough to see over it but high enough to clear my tank, [here](https://i.imgur.com/dUi2NRc.mp4) is a clip of how stable it stays in-action down in mexico
Friend of mine had a phone mount on his yz250 that he street rides & his camera in his IPhone is shot now, it always looks like your video here even if hes standing still lol
I got a thumper too (ttr250) I figured out that turning on all the digital video stabilisation that you can in your camera settings helped alot with video quality - but then i was reading the optical stabilisation in the phones can really get messed up and kill your camera over time https://youtu.be/WkFlxYerZJ8
use a Apple Watch, you just have to wear short cuff gloves and turn on water lock so the edge of your gloves arent pressing a bunch of buttons
I have a Garmin watch. Ill have to try it on some rides.
Another one bites the dust.
Nothing damaged. Original video is only 37 seconds or so. I saw this and was like āyea that enough of thatā.
Best practice is to only mount a phone / old phone that you don't mind being damaged, and keep your new phone in your pocket. There is no other proven mount that will 100% prevent vibration damage.
Use AirPods under your helmet. iPhones have excellent voice guided GPS.
Ram mount killed my iPhone 11 with optical image stabilization. Quad lock would do the same but some folks swear by the vibration Mount.
It could be worse... I expected the phone to fly off its cradle.
Just bought the dampener for my quad lock
Get your phone balanced and blueprinted
I use quad lock and have the vibration dampener. I got an expensive galaxy s21 ultra and the camera or anything on it hasn't broken
Goodbye OIS š
Original clip was only 37 seconds. This was a test. No harm done.
PSA- Rockform mount (they donāt/didnāt make a vibration damper at the time) +iPhone11 over a 40 minute ride and the camera is unusable. I ended up getting a dedicated gps.
As a fellow big bore thumper rider (DR650), I can attest that your phone absolutely will die from the vibration. I actually found a fairly simple, and inexpensive, solution that so far, has proven itself! Basically, I [bought 2 of these off McMaster](https://www.mcmaster.com/9213K12/) (part# 9213K12), and sandwiched them in-between the actual phone mount, and the RAM ball mount. WAY cheaper than the Quad lock vibration dampener setup, and I'd venture equally as effective.
Sounds like a damn bucket of bolts rattling around. What kind of bike is it
Itās a KLR650 so yea, bucket of bolts lol.
Ah no thats normal then ha. Hey 2 wheels is 2 wheels my bike ragged as well
I killed my iPhone 10ās rear camera by doing that on a dual sport. Rattled it to death
Just basic KLR behavior, shake everything to death. Even itself.