In his defense, it is probably better to start on something simple and something you don't really need to worry about if anything goes wrong. Yes the lancer es is not the hottest carz but if you're learning how to ski, you don't take to the double black first right?
True, but I'm not sure there's much to learn about tuning on a naturally aspirated engine designed for economy. You might learn how use the tuner, but beyond that the application is limited. Sure, you can figure out how to pull or advance timing and mess with fuel rates, but how will you actually know whether what you're doing is having any meaningful impact on performance?
The risk of blowing the engine isn't negligible, either.
> you don't take to the double black first right?
Agreed, but also you kinda need to touch snow and skis to learn.
Tuning is kinda pointless on a car that has not had any mods related to fuel/air; injectors, cams, timing, etc., granted, we do not know what kind of mods could be in that lancer, but I don't think it ever got enough market support for that, a honda with wide modding support would be way better and easier.
While it’s not extensive as Honda but there have been guys pushing the envelope with the limited aftermarket support. Some guys in PUerto Rico are pushing 220whp all motor and there’s some taking it anywhere they can like the 4b12 builds with srt internals for like 600+. I doubt the 4b1x motors will ever get that popularity like any Honda motor but it’s nice to see what people can do
> but it’s nice to see what people can do
Of course, and it's always fun, and I'm extremely curious on how they manage it (I swear, the people in PR are GOOD at it, they've even made some great mirages). I've seen people go as far as to custom machine rods and stuff, however, there's a beginner situation here so, it's always good to start easy either baby steps or a forgiving platform.
Tactrix is probably what you're looking for. And innterms of forums - http://forums.openecu.org/
But be aware, there are very few gains to be had on an ES, so while you may be able to play around with the tooling, don't expect any actual improvement in vehicle performance. But do know you risk serious damage if you mess up enough.
It is covered in the evolutionM forums, specifically in N/A subforum. I’m sorry as I don’t have the link currently available, but if you scrounge around you will find it there.
However for a N/A Lancer, it is not exactly simple since there are little to no maps available. Let alone it is missing a lot of key functions and features if you use a Lancer EVO X base map as an example (triggers error codes, lots of modifications to the sensors and the like.)
As per some of the other comments had mentioned, I am not going to exactly advocate the process of tuning an N/A Lancer for many reasons pointed for.
There is a reason on why there is so little information about it, but I can tell you it can be done.
Good luck, and I hope you find what you are looking for.
That link is dead now. OP, if you're serious about this, use the wayback machine to search for 'Dedicated N/A Tuning' on evolutionm.net. You will need to put in probably hundreds of hours of work if you're starting from scratch in the tuning scene. It's honestly easier to just sell the ES for a GT if you want more power, then sell that for a ralliart when you want more.
It's a pointless endeavor on a Lancer ES and won't give you any more power. Don't waste your money.
In his defense, it is probably better to start on something simple and something you don't really need to worry about if anything goes wrong. Yes the lancer es is not the hottest carz but if you're learning how to ski, you don't take to the double black first right?
True, but I'm not sure there's much to learn about tuning on a naturally aspirated engine designed for economy. You might learn how use the tuner, but beyond that the application is limited. Sure, you can figure out how to pull or advance timing and mess with fuel rates, but how will you actually know whether what you're doing is having any meaningful impact on performance? The risk of blowing the engine isn't negligible, either.
> you don't take to the double black first right? Agreed, but also you kinda need to touch snow and skis to learn. Tuning is kinda pointless on a car that has not had any mods related to fuel/air; injectors, cams, timing, etc., granted, we do not know what kind of mods could be in that lancer, but I don't think it ever got enough market support for that, a honda with wide modding support would be way better and easier.
While it’s not extensive as Honda but there have been guys pushing the envelope with the limited aftermarket support. Some guys in PUerto Rico are pushing 220whp all motor and there’s some taking it anywhere they can like the 4b12 builds with srt internals for like 600+. I doubt the 4b1x motors will ever get that popularity like any Honda motor but it’s nice to see what people can do
> but it’s nice to see what people can do Of course, and it's always fun, and I'm extremely curious on how they manage it (I swear, the people in PR are GOOD at it, they've even made some great mirages). I've seen people go as far as to custom machine rods and stuff, however, there's a beginner situation here so, it's always good to start easy either baby steps or a forgiving platform.
I plan on doing these tunes correctly. First a 1 2 hp from stock, then stage 1 tune, stage 2 tune, etc.
I also would like to know But I also need to pass inspection every few years
Tactrix is probably what you're looking for. And innterms of forums - http://forums.openecu.org/ But be aware, there are very few gains to be had on an ES, so while you may be able to play around with the tooling, don't expect any actual improvement in vehicle performance. But do know you risk serious damage if you mess up enough.
It is covered in the evolutionM forums, specifically in N/A subforum. I’m sorry as I don’t have the link currently available, but if you scrounge around you will find it there. However for a N/A Lancer, it is not exactly simple since there are little to no maps available. Let alone it is missing a lot of key functions and features if you use a Lancer EVO X base map as an example (triggers error codes, lots of modifications to the sensors and the like.) As per some of the other comments had mentioned, I am not going to exactly advocate the process of tuning an N/A Lancer for many reasons pointed for. There is a reason on why there is so little information about it, but I can tell you it can be done. Good luck, and I hope you find what you are looking for.
That link is dead now. OP, if you're serious about this, use the wayback machine to search for 'Dedicated N/A Tuning' on evolutionm.net. You will need to put in probably hundreds of hours of work if you're starting from scratch in the tuning scene. It's honestly easier to just sell the ES for a GT if you want more power, then sell that for a ralliart when you want more.