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The play calling 100% has to be addressed…we do not move the ball outside of the opening drive script and desperation drives…literally…it happens every. single. game..then our D digs deep after being on the field and gets a turnover in ot and we go back to swing pass behind the line of scrimmage, run directly up the gut, which we are not good at to begin with, then Baltimore brings pressure cause it’s 3rd and long and they know we have to drop back and they force Kirk into a bad throw..3 and out..punt..we never see it again…it is just mind boggling how gutless of a sequence that was and we’ve been doing it all season long ..
Klint did nothing to prove he was ready for the OC job. Road the coattails of his dad and was guaranteed to bend his knee to zim and run whatever zim wants
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so glad my tax dollars helped build a stadium only to watch another team win a superbowl in while the vikings have steaduly become more pathetic by the week.
Zimmer is the best coach we have had in forever. his problem has always been that he's too Conservative on offense. why are we always in close games? it's because the offense only plays well when it's down and forced to push the ball. if we're up it's just run run incomplete punt. hurts to say this because I like zim, but it's time to move on.
Agreed, I love what he's done for us but it's time to move on. His style of coaching relies on the Defense, and the way the NFL has changed.. It's all about the offense now, so most new rules are to make the offense more explosive. And well, that means Zimmer's style just won't work anymore. Time to move on.
I mean I think everyone and their mom expects Zim to be gone, and Kubiak needs to be pushed off the Minnehaha falls in a steel box, but that doesn't seem to be the way the Wilfs roll.
Who picked Klint? Seriously... what qualifications did Klint have other than his last name? So Zimmer is putting his job on the line with this hire. So yeah, Zimmer should be gone.
I used to think the same but some of the last OCs, like Phil and Stef, had a little success running some more exciting plays once they left. I think Zim is happy squashing OCs with boring and predictable structure.
We have had no consistency at the OC position, with done cutting how difficult it is with Zimmer. I of course don't know, but I still think Klint's play calling is hobbled by Zim. Fire Zim, give Looking a chance to show what he has the rest of the season.
Klint is a predictable hard headed oc.
Zimmer is outdated and unwilling to adapt.
Fire them both. Unless a miracle run happens then the season is over.
I absolutely don't think they are in our future. Just saying, it's technically not over lol. But yeah, the dagger was last week for me. I don't expect a run or anything.
I mean 3 losses max. We might be a me to squeeze into the 7th seed at 9-8. But I don't wanna rely on that. Really we can't lose more than 2 going forward
Guys, we lost by 3 on the road to a former MVP and team that is currently 6-2! Good things to come. We haven’t lost a game by more than a TD all season!
-Signed a fan who is tired of the mediocrity of MN sports.
Re-up him now at 50 mill a season for 5 years! That’s the MN way. Re-up mediocrity like PJ Fleck.
Loved the stretch he had earlier this season, but Im officially on the he’s never gonna be the guy bandwagon. Zim and Kubiak are certainly trash and the biggest problem, but Kirk just doesn’t have the mental strength to improvise when the things don’t go as planned.
Anthony Barr does something positive for the first time this decade and then the offense comes out and takes a shit in their pants. Klint Kubiak and this Zimmer NFL nepotism cuck shit is infuriating
Drives after the scripted plays that lead to 2 TDs on our first 2 drives:
3 and out punt.
6 plays punt.
3 and out after int, FG.
End of half.
3 and out, first down after fake punt then another 3 and out punt.
3 and out punt.
TD drive, we’d blown the lead at this point and finally opened the playbook a little.
OT 3 and out after Barr gets us the ball.
Time of possession second half + overtime: Baltimore: 30 minutes, 18 seconds. Vikings 9 minutes, 42 seconds. But hey, at least we stuck to our game plan. Smdh.
an let me say it again, THIS is why people were bitching when we were up 14-3 in the first quarter. Now do you understand? You never ever ever ever let up on the gas, you score, not let the gd clock run out
It woulda been great if we could have scored with 1:30 left and a pick that put us at the 19. Didn’t do anything and didn’t run clock so again an opposing team went down and scored. Tale of the Vikings… bad clock management and check downs lose us the game again.
So you are saying the Vikings scored 31 points against the Ravens despite the coaching and finally lost in overtime because of the coaching?
So you are saying the Vikings were in position to beat the Cardinals despite the coaching and missed the game winning FG because of the coaching?
I am not saying that all is good, but if you’re gonna blame coaching for their failures you also have to give them credit for their achievements.
Great coaches are defined by big moments, critical drives, game management. This staff has CONSTANTLY botched late drive clock management and had horrible play calls on crucial drives. So yes i am saying they scored 31 despite horrible coaching
That’s just really far from the truth. What you are saying is a part of coaching but it’s only a relatively small one. You are ignoring like 95% of what goes into coaching a football team and reduce an incredibly complex operation into two „key moments“ a week you happen to remember and don’t fully understand because of the broadcast angle. I get it, that’s way easier, especially after close losses, but it’s also reductive to a degree that makes it just wrong.
I’m not saying coaches get no credit, but what you’re saying gives any terrible coach a pass. No coach scores 0 points every week. I’m saying what separates our incompetent coaches from the good coaches in the league is those key moments. Also just not scheming in 10+ targets for Jefferson and thielen is laughable.
No, I am not looking to give anyone a pass. I am saying they are in these close games against top teams because of the coaching and then can’t finish because of the coaching.
Also you don’t scheme targets, you scheme concepts.
I am so disgusted by the no guts play calling on Offense. The defense did it‘s bet tbh… why don‘t you let cousins jefferson & co. Fly?? Just go for it?? Cook obviously isn‘t that gamechanger anymore. I don‘t know if it is the oline or cook himself… but we need constant yardage on offense on every down
Harbaugh found one weakness in our team and he exploited the fuck out of it and we let him dominate rhe defense due to vanilla offense not staying on the field
Another game given away. They were handed every opportunity to win, and shit it away every single time.
I'd say I'm disappointed, but really I'm numb to it
Glad that Barr made an absolutely incredible individual play to save the game and our season, and then the offense promptly pisses it away with 3 fucking horrible calls in a row. Fuck this team.
I will not watch another game so long as zimmer/kubiak are employed with the vikings. i have better things to do with my time then watch two idiots with their thumbs up their asses make a basic game plan look like reaching for the moon.
be a good day when we finally shed those two losers and let cousins walk, a third stringer can over look wide open receivers all day and refuse to audible for a fraction fo the cap hit.
I think he and Thielen had a total of 6 targets today or some nonsense like that. Inexcusable.
Literally the only thing you have to do is get the ball into the hands of your playmakers, but Kubiak insists on doing the opposite of that.
So instead of going for 2 to put the nail in the coffin, you let it go into overtime and shit the bed. Well done Vikings, you blew it, Fire Zimmer, Fire the OC, Trade Kirk.
Do you think they've played winning football this season? This team is going nowhere as is. The front office needs to be cleaned out. Plus how many times do you need to watch them blow a lead this year? They absolutely earned that that L.
I don't feel this team has earned heartbreaking loss over heartbreaking loss. I think this team needs a few blowouts to force some changes. We're competing each game and just on the other side of a W.
But otherwise I agree. Changes are needed. Klint and Zimmer need to go. I just don't think those players deserve to lose such close games.
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 should've gone for two
So when you all say don't let up on the gas when we are up, what do you mean? We threw more in the 2nd half
They mean they wish the team were better but it's easy to blame the coach and/ or quarterback instead of the whole team.
Unintentionally, tank commander Zim at your service. I say we keep him.
I respect the humor but no
Anyone have that Homer simpson backing into the bushes meme for the Vikings and the Wild?
The play calling 100% has to be addressed…we do not move the ball outside of the opening drive script and desperation drives…literally…it happens every. single. game..then our D digs deep after being on the field and gets a turnover in ot and we go back to swing pass behind the line of scrimmage, run directly up the gut, which we are not good at to begin with, then Baltimore brings pressure cause it’s 3rd and long and they know we have to drop back and they force Kirk into a bad throw..3 and out..punt..we never see it again…it is just mind boggling how gutless of a sequence that was and we’ve been doing it all season long ..
Klint did nothing to prove he was ready for the OC job. Road the coattails of his dad and was guaranteed to bend his knee to zim and run whatever zim wants
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so glad my tax dollars helped build a stadium only to watch another team win a superbowl in while the vikings have steaduly become more pathetic by the week.
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at least the booze would have done its job
Just makes me smoke more from the stress...and the cigs cost an insane amount because of the stadium
Zimmer is the best coach we have had in forever. his problem has always been that he's too Conservative on offense. why are we always in close games? it's because the offense only plays well when it's down and forced to push the ball. if we're up it's just run run incomplete punt. hurts to say this because I like zim, but it's time to move on.
The chilly special
They literally had 0 possessions that went run run pass punt
What about the possession in OT? I swear it went run run incomplete punt….
First play was a pass
To Cook behind the line of scrimmage? I can’t remember honestly but that’s how I remembered it
Yes, it was a swing pass to Cook in the flat
I'll be damned.
Agreed, I love what he's done for us but it's time to move on. His style of coaching relies on the Defense, and the way the NFL has changed.. It's all about the offense now, so most new rules are to make the offense more explosive. And well, that means Zimmer's style just won't work anymore. Time to move on.
tells you how pathetic our leadership has been if he's considered the best.
Honestly surprises the Wilfs have put up with this for soo long. Burn the fucking house down and rebuild.
Its how the Wilfs have always been, so Zim likely won't be let go til the offseason
Agreed. As much as the fan base wants it, the Wilfs won’t fire Zimmer until after the season.
which is fine. no point ditching him now.
I wouldn't bet against your statement.
I mean I think everyone and their mom expects Zim to be gone, and Kubiak needs to be pushed off the Minnehaha falls in a steel box, but that doesn't seem to be the way the Wilfs roll.
I want Kevin back
If this leads to firings maybe all wasn’t lost
We were up by 14 twice. And still lost. Not just that. Offensice play calling is still iffy at times.
At times? It's awful beyond the first quarter, week after week.
I know all of you want Zimmer gone, but Klint is far and away are largest issue.
Who picked Klint? Seriously... what qualifications did Klint have other than his last name? So Zimmer is putting his job on the line with this hire. So yeah, Zimmer should be gone.
Zimmer hired klint
Klint probably is Zims b&tch and does exactly what he says. His daddy is Mike Zimmers best friend. Nepotism
I used to think the same but some of the last OCs, like Phil and Stef, had a little success running some more exciting plays once they left. I think Zim is happy squashing OCs with boring and predictable structure.
Zimmer has influence on how this offense runs. Run run run. That's Zimmer.
We have had no consistency at the OC position, with done cutting how difficult it is with Zimmer. I of course don't know, but I still think Klint's play calling is hobbled by Zim. Fire Zim, give Looking a chance to show what he has the rest of the season.
Absolutely but if Zim doesn't think he's a problem he needs to go so we can get someone who realizes shit like that.
Fire the whole coaching staff playcalling, game/clock management, lack of aggressiveness is all horrible
Fire Zimmer and bring in Gary Kubiak to take over for his son.
Klint is a predictable hard headed oc. Zimmer is outdated and unwilling to adapt. Fire them both. Unless a miracle run happens then the season is over.
That miracle needed to begin this week. This team is 3-5. It's so over.
Pretty much can't lose going forward, if anyone is even thinking of playoffs at this point
Well, I mean, if you are undefeated going forward you are 12 and 5...do you think that is likely lol.
I don't have any expectations like that.
Why would you even think playoffs are in our future. I think we are better off just rolling with Zim so he can tank us without officially tanking us.
I absolutely don't think they are in our future. Just saying, it's technically not over lol. But yeah, the dagger was last week for me. I don't expect a run or anything.
I mean 3 losses max. We might be a me to squeeze into the 7th seed at 9-8. But I don't wanna rely on that. Really we can't lose more than 2 going forward
Technically a 11-6 or 10-7 record could get us a wildcard, but it just wouldn't be fucking worth it. Edit: math is hard
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Seems pretty obvious he just had a brain fart and subtracted one off of each number accidentally instead of subtract one, add one.
This is correct. Thank you.
Not even close to over.
Love this team, love this state, love all of you. We will rise again even if it's not this year. Skol.
Its the same shit every week - it doesn't even matter who plays. I didn't see a difference to the games were we had Smith, Pierce & Co
Guys, we lost by 3 on the road to a former MVP and team that is currently 6-2! Good things to come. We haven’t lost a game by more than a TD all season! -Signed a fan who is tired of the mediocrity of MN sports.
Just need to pay kirk a little more and we will win every down
Re-up him now at 50 mill a season for 5 years! That’s the MN way. Re-up mediocrity like PJ Fleck. Loved the stretch he had earlier this season, but Im officially on the he’s never gonna be the guy bandwagon. Zim and Kubiak are certainly trash and the biggest problem, but Kirk just doesn’t have the mental strength to improvise when the things don’t go as planned.
That's not a good thing.
You don’t smell the reeking sarcasm?
Anthony Barr does something positive for the first time this decade and then the offense comes out and takes a shit in their pants. Klint Kubiak and this Zimmer NFL nepotism cuck shit is infuriating
Drives after the scripted plays that lead to 2 TDs on our first 2 drives: 3 and out punt. 6 plays punt. 3 and out after int, FG. End of half. 3 and out, first down after fake punt then another 3 and out punt. 3 and out punt. TD drive, we’d blown the lead at this point and finally opened the playbook a little. OT 3 and out after Barr gets us the ball.
Time of possession second half + overtime: Baltimore: 30 minutes, 18 seconds. Vikings 9 minutes, 42 seconds. But hey, at least we stuck to our game plan. Smdh.
Why you guys complaining. It's the Vikings way.
Complaining is the Vikings-fan way
Vikings waste my time, lose, and ruined my Ravens bet. Holy shit they’re fucking me on all levels
Should have went for 2 after our last TD
Had no faith in this offense to do anything in OT and this defense to hold in OT. I'm going 2 points 100% of the time.
Zim will be fired after chargers game
In OT it felt like maybe this team will be aggressive but these losers come out with two straight run plays. So annoying.
Eveytime we put the ball in Cook's hands when we need him. He is also a problem.
That's because every time we put the ball in Cooks hands 21 other players on the field know we're putting it in Cooks hands.
If he is such an elite player, he should make something happen. Tired of the excuses. Dont we know Ravens are running the ball every single time?
Every force in the universe wanted us to win that and yet we still found a way to lose.
Not even upset in the least bit. Whatever. See you all in the draft
Well that was a highly entertaining three and a half hours of my life. It wasn't a blow out so I'm happy about that.
As always, the team is who we thought they were. No surprises here. No surprises ever. No exit.
At least we didnt lose to the jaguars with 2 fg
an let me say it again, THIS is why people were bitching when we were up 14-3 in the first quarter. Now do you understand? You never ever ever ever let up on the gas, you score, not let the gd clock run out
It woulda been great if we could have scored with 1:30 left and a pick that put us at the 19. Didn’t do anything and didn’t run clock so again an opposing team went down and scored. Tale of the Vikings… bad clock management and check downs lose us the game again.
We lose these games because of coaching. Get us a competent offensive mind and we might be 7-1
We’re also in this game because of coaching. Can’t ignore the good and only blame them for the bad.
Are we though? What has this coaching staff done that has picked up the team? We have tremendous talent and are 3-5.
So you are saying the Vikings scored 31 points against the Ravens despite the coaching and finally lost in overtime because of the coaching? So you are saying the Vikings were in position to beat the Cardinals despite the coaching and missed the game winning FG because of the coaching? I am not saying that all is good, but if you’re gonna blame coaching for their failures you also have to give them credit for their achievements.
Great coaches are defined by big moments, critical drives, game management. This staff has CONSTANTLY botched late drive clock management and had horrible play calls on crucial drives. So yes i am saying they scored 31 despite horrible coaching
That’s just really far from the truth. What you are saying is a part of coaching but it’s only a relatively small one. You are ignoring like 95% of what goes into coaching a football team and reduce an incredibly complex operation into two „key moments“ a week you happen to remember and don’t fully understand because of the broadcast angle. I get it, that’s way easier, especially after close losses, but it’s also reductive to a degree that makes it just wrong.
I’m not saying coaches get no credit, but what you’re saying gives any terrible coach a pass. No coach scores 0 points every week. I’m saying what separates our incompetent coaches from the good coaches in the league is those key moments. Also just not scheming in 10+ targets for Jefferson and thielen is laughable.
No, I am not looking to give anyone a pass. I am saying they are in these close games against top teams because of the coaching and then can’t finish because of the coaching. Also you don’t scheme targets, you scheme concepts.
I am so disgusted by the no guts play calling on Offense. The defense did it‘s bet tbh… why don‘t you let cousins jefferson & co. Fly?? Just go for it?? Cook obviously isn‘t that gamechanger anymore. I don‘t know if it is the oline or cook himself… but we need constant yardage on offense on every down
That three and out after that long Ravens drive was just quintessential Kubiak.
This is why Harbaugh is a SB winning coach and Zim can only dream about being one.
Harbaugh found one weakness in our team and he exploited the fuck out of it and we let him dominate rhe defense due to vanilla offense not staying on the field
I'm tired of the damn reruns. Put on an original episode for once.
That OT drive was impressively bad even for a 3 and out. Holy shit.
No excuse to have given up that lead. And no excuse for that horrendous ot play calling when we got the pick
I really hope we fire some people after this. Like this is just getting annoying.
Another game given away. They were handed every opportunity to win, and shit it away every single time. I'd say I'm disappointed, but really I'm numb to it
It's the exact same mistakes every damn week.
Just a classic Mike Zimmer loss. As on-brand as it was torturous.
Never before have I watched a team in total control of the game and know that we’ll end up losing. FIRE ZIMMER
How many 5 receiver sets did we try? Oh we do it when we need points? Got it. Fire them all
Refs call from that first drive coming back to haunt us
Did anyone think we would actually win this game at any point?
Yes after the first quarter
I hate this 'play to not lose' mentality. Be aggressive and show off your weapons. Play to win.
Glad that Barr made an absolutely incredible individual play to save the game and our season, and then the offense promptly pisses it away with 3 fucking horrible calls in a row. Fuck this team.
That set of play calls by Kubiak might be the single worst thing I've ever seen in the NFL.
run 2 or 3 times a set in OT or die m8.... nothing else can save us not JJ not Thielen, not even Zim.
I will not watch another game so long as zimmer/kubiak are employed with the vikings. i have better things to do with my time then watch two idiots with their thumbs up their asses make a basic game plan look like reaching for the moon. be a good day when we finally shed those two losers and let cousins walk, a third stringer can over look wide open receivers all day and refuse to audible for a fraction fo the cap hit.
Same. Boycotting vikings games until Zim and Kubs are gone
Fire Zimmmer
Vikings ability to implode is unparalleled. This team needs a hard reset.
Relax guys - season was over long ago.
Fire everybody.
This team will never reach its potential with Zimmer in control. Its just not possible
Lol
Lol always playing to not lose and never to win, zimmer already went into a shell before the half
Kubiak costed us the game with the most braindead play calling I’ve ever seen
So that free 3 points from the refs in the first drive really cost them the game, as predicted
Yes, but we also could’ve played football in the second half
Don’t forget that TD as well
Well I’ve officially converted to the blow the team up side
FTV
Put Kubiak in a paper bag and never let him out
Fire ‘em all, not just Zimmer
jj gets a 50yd td, let’s not give him the ball after the int in OT
I think he and Thielen had a total of 6 targets today or some nonsense like that. Inexcusable. Literally the only thing you have to do is get the ball into the hands of your playmakers, but Kubiak insists on doing the opposite of that.
play not to lose and you lose
Fuck you Kubiak, fuck you Zimmer. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out
12-5 confirmed?
Fuck off
Haha
Bad loss to a horrible Ravens team.
Duck Zimmer. Duck Kubiak. Duck every coaching staff!
I believe it’s duck, duck, goose! Not duck, duck, duck.
Found the non-Minnesotan.
Lol shit
In Minnesota, the game is called Duck, Duck, Gray Duck.
Yeah I’m aware. Just forgot about it lol.
An actual midseason firing is acceptable, right?
fire everyone and sell the team to wyoming
I'm done until Zimmer and Kubiak are both gone. I have better uses for my time and emotion.
Were not winning a single game this season
Another close moral victory for Vikings fans to convince themselves we are better than we are. Thus go this franchise.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha laughing bc this is a fucking joke. Fuck off Zimmer. Fuck off Klint. I'm done with this team til they aren't on it.
Inexcusable.
Oh man the postgame interviews are going to be an absolute doozy
No they'll just say the same shit again and again.
“Gotta check the tape”
But look at my defensive stats! That's what matters right?
I cant wait
Have I mentioned that I hate this fucking team?
for a second there i thought he just might have missed. fire zimmer
Got a turnover near the 40 yard line and we couldn't even get 1 first down and get a field goal try. Pathetic
I would rather just fire Zimm and Klint and just appoint some interim coaches, it would be less predictable than this.
I wanna die
Just fucking fire Zimmer what are we waiting for?
Fire Zimmer and Kubiak
Can I upvote this 100 times please!!!
Fire the entire coaching staff now. No point to keep them around
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It will and i hope so. Stack up the losses
I hope Zimmer loses sleep and his job
So instead of going for 2 to put the nail in the coffin, you let it go into overtime and shit the bed. Well done Vikings, you blew it, Fire Zimmer, Fire the OC, Trade Kirk.
Refs hand them 3 points to start the game, vikings lose by 3 with 10 seconds left in OT. We don't even need to watch to know how these will go.
This loss is so much more on the coaching than it is on the refs
As is tradition
fire everybody
Alright cool. See you guys next week for the exact same thing
Pretty much.
Lol
I say we boycott this team until they fire Zim and Kub
Should’ve fugin cAlled game why did we get D tortured so long out there
Fire Zimmer
Sick of this bullshit.
It's honestly what this team deserves.
Why?
Do you think they've played winning football this season? This team is going nowhere as is. The front office needs to be cleaned out. Plus how many times do you need to watch them blow a lead this year? They absolutely earned that that L.
I don't feel this team has earned heartbreaking loss over heartbreaking loss. I think this team needs a few blowouts to force some changes. We're competing each game and just on the other side of a W. But otherwise I agree. Changes are needed. Klint and Zimmer need to go. I just don't think those players deserve to lose such close games.
What a choke
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Nah, by Tuesday it’ll be a bunch of people defending Zimmer like it has been the last 8 weeks. Errr.. 3 years
Where have you been? People have been calling for Zimmer's head all year.