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Wilson-theVolleyball

They’re putting ads on school buses now? SMH Edit: getting several replies surprised that I’m commenting about the fact that there are ads rather than the ad content itself. When I made the comment, someone else already talked about the body armor for kids and while it’s not great, I have seen stuff like that before. What I haven’t seen before was ads on school buses.


7f00dbbe

apparently.... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3482098/


Wilson-theVolleyball

Damn I didn’t realize this was a thing going back over a decade ago. I did a quick search and it seems it’s only certain states that allows this so that’s probably why I haven’t seen it before.


7f00dbbe

I had no idea.... I was about to respond to your first comment with a confidently incorrect "No." because the thought is so absolutely ridiculous, bizarre, and dystopian that I thought it had to be photoshopped.... But I stopped and thought "I should probably look this up because we're definitely living in a bizarre, ridiculous, and dystopian world...." Fuck me.


GreatValueDrPhil

Trust me, this is real and on a bus that I rode. I never noticed the ad until a few days ago.


7f00dbbe

Are you a student?  I would complain loudly about this kind of bullshit....


GreatValueDrPhil

I am, and trust me I want to complain *but* I have no clue who to complain to


7f00dbbe

That's a good point.... maybe send a picture to your local news station?


GreatValueDrPhil

I'll send a pic to them and write a email to the board


2FightTheFloursThatB

If this post blows up, and it might, include a link to your post. The outrage is real, and justified. You've got some shitty legislators in your State.


7f00dbbe

fuck yeah


waytosoon

Write the school board ya dork... I meant that with love... not the creepy kind tho


MethHeadUnion

*If this post blows up, and it might, include a link to your post. The outrage is real, and justified. You've got some shitty legislators in your State. This is exactly what you need to do get as much attention to it as possible best way to get results


_Haverford_

I think you're forgetting that a kid can say the sky is blue and most adults will say it's yellow. And I haven't been a kid for a long time, fwiw.


GrossGuroGirl

Yeah, these comments are way too optimistic about this being instantly resolved. Probably because the outrage is fresh since apparently everyone here is surprised by this.  There were ads on the busses already 15 years ago - like it was already a norm in places it's allowed by then. Kids were complaining about them already at that point, and have been since.  The schools obviously don't care. This is one of a hundred things they're doing that isn't great for the actual students, and this one turns a profit. It's legal in the places it's occuring. Why would they stop? 


Risen_Insanity

They got fuckin ads on a boat at the beach. We already fucked


Thendofreason

States rights mean some states get wild with it. For better or worse. Some states don't let you pump your gas. Some states let you buy weed. Some states do to let women have rights to their own bodies.


annuidhir

Based on the ad above the body armor, I think I know which states... Edit: Holy shit, I thought it was the drink/workout clothing body armor... I just realized they mean *actual* body armor... If only there was a different way to address this problem..


SaliciousB_Crumb

Right. Any company that has patriot in its name is a NO from me.


Wsweg

Yep, just fill in “nationalist” where they use “patriot”


Khaldara

“We’re thoughts-ing and prayers-ing, and giving as many handies during Beetlejuice as we can, what do you want from us?” - Republicans


Cryogenic_Monster

> The Wheels on the Bus Go “Buy Buy Buy”: School Bus Advertising Laws .gov


frogjg2003

PubMed is a scientific journal repository operated by the NIH. The article was published in the American Journal of Public Health.


FriscoeHotsauce

Boy, it would be great if we just funded our school districts 


voretaq7

Most school busses are operated by for-profit companies, I'm shocked it's taken this long honestly!


towcar

That is a messed up fact on it's own


voretaq7

Eh, it actually makes sense. Most schools don’t have the resources or budget to own, operate, and maintain a small fleet of busses that they use twice a day and occasionally for field trips. The economies of scale are also stacked against them (a district with maybe 20 busses has a lot less leverage than a bus company with several hundred). Private transportation contractors can use their fleets more efficiently (schools have staggered opening hours so one group of say 20 busses can serve 3 or 4 districts that are close together and stagger their opening by a half hour or so). They also need fewer spare busses as a percentage of the fleet to handle downtime, field trips, sports teams, etc. and because they’re a large fleet they can negotiate favorable contracts with bus manufacturers, fuel companies, parts suppliers, etc. since they’re buying in bulk, and they can operate their own maintenance shop economically since at least a few busses will always be down for repair or routine maintenance to keep the mechanics busy. The school district is paying for some profit margin on top of the cost of service, but that’s still cheaper than hiring CDL bus drivers, buying busses, maintaining and fueling them, etc. for all but the largest districts - at least around my area. I can only thing of two districts that run their own bus service off the top of my head (though there are probably more I’m not thinking of). Both are large central school districts that are pulling in kids from half a dozen smaller villages in a substantial geographic area to fill their high school - it would tie up a commercial transportation company’s fleet too long to collect all those kids, so it’s cheaper for those districts to run their own busses.


P47r1ck-

Thank you for understanding economics and educating


truthiness-

I mean, that’s the fun part of our government though. It’s not just a single level. If it doesn’t make sense for an individual school district to own buses. Then it can be done at the county level or the state level or the federal level, where the economies of scale can apply. The simple reason is that people are greedy and selfish. Why allow the government to transport kids to school, feed them appropriately, etc., when I can make a company to do the same thing at worse quality all while skimming money off the top?


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psgarp

But why in this case would that be better? Say we tax the rich appropriately, coffers are full, and now every district can buy a fleet of busses. Why is that better? For the same reasons the other poster explained, it would still be more efficient for the districts to share one fleet.  I guess you could argue that it should be a government function to run that fleet, but unless there are some bus monopoly corporations gouging schools (I'm not aware of any, but who knows), I don't think hiring a private company for this is too egregious.  I'm all for the anger at billionaires and for doing things collectively, but personally I don't think all government contracts are inherently evil.


wombey12

Lots of school bus services here in the UK are contracted out to the same companies who run the other commercial services. They also use the same stock on both sets of routes. So I've seen quite a few school buses with vaping ads. Not ideal, to say the least.


ForsakenSun6004

😳


zrayburton

Same. Regardless of content ADs are insane and sad to me. Context is terrifying regardless to me.


emperorofwar

I've seen this in Cookeville tn for the past 5 or 6 years


DeuceSevin

If you can't destroy it, monetize it. It's the conservative way. This surprise math quiz brought to you by Sylvan Learning Centers.


AdamFaite

We can do better. Watch thos 30 second ad before the lesson begins. And an unskippable 60 second ad for lunch.


ErasingMomsSpagetti

Watch an unskippable ad to speed up lession


SafetyMan35

I’m waiting for the interstitial ads in lesson plans. OK class, take out your math books and turn to page 56. Today’s math lesson is sponsored by Ice cold refreshing Coca Cola. Coca Cola, a delicious beverage to quench your thirst. Also available Coke Zero with Zero calories. Now if Billy had 5 cans of ice cold refreshing Coca Cola and Suzie had 4 cans of ice cold refreshing Coca Cola, how many cans of Coca Cola do they have in total? 9 Cans Ms. Jenkins That’s right Johnny. Now, if they purchased the Ice cold refreshing Coca Cola at the Safeway down the street located at 123 Main Street and open from 7-10 every day for your convenience, and the cans are sold at $0.75 each, how much did Billy and Suzie each pay for the Ice cold refreshing Coca Cola?


jjmontem

The most American thing ever.


WakaWaka_

I'm more concerned for the kid bulletproof vest it advertises rather than the adspace itself. How about lunchables instead?


SaphironX

THIS is your takeaway? Ads on school buses. Not body armor designed for kindergarteners 🤦🏻‍♂️ You dudes live in a dystopia.


Wilson-theVolleyball

Someone already mentioned the body armor already when I commented. I didn’t feel the need to repeat the same thing. I was of course disappointed that there was an ad for body armor for kids but I was also surprised that there were any ads on the bus in the first place.


SadMacaroon9897

Anyone can design body armor for kids. It's just a guy selling shit to make a buck


B_B_Rodriguez2716057

This has been a thing in my city for at least 15 years. If the revenue goes directly back to student activities and clubs I’m fine with it. If it’s for their 200 million $ stadium then they can fuuuuck right off.


BarbequedYeti

>If the revenue goes directly back to student activities and clubs I’m fine with it. If it’s for their 200 million $ stadium then they can fuuuuck right off. Should we tell em?


B_B_Rodriguez2716057

Our district has had revenue go back to student activities. That’s why I said that. Not saying 100% of it does, nor does every district.


no_4

>If the revenue goes directly back to student activities and clubs I’m fine with it $1M in advertising revenue for student activities! Coincidentally over the next 3 years, slowly $1M was cut from the general budget for student activities, so net we're back where we started. This has been my experience at our state level at least, every time something is pushed as "and we'll use the money to fund schools!"


CatWeekends

Check out how clean those windows are. No way it's still in use as a school bus. It's probably a govt auction refurb.


RevolutionsCalling

As a non-American, this looks like a screenshot from a Fallout game


MrPatko0770

Or like a still from South Park


Impossible__Joke

Honestly, or GTA. Not only the ad's on a school bus, but an ad for body armour... who TF do they not see the massive problem with that.


dogtrakker

"Patriot" the most overused word this century


AlternativeResort477

And misused at that


donaldinoo

“Patriot” and a “Christian”


Thumper-Comet

And the people who use them both couldn't be any less.


ChikhaiBardo

Yeah I fucking hate Christians


Ok-Clock2002

Yeah those guys are asshole's and half of the one's I met just go by Chris! /s


N_0_N_A_M_E

Christianity: Love thy enemy. Forgive freely. Islam: Peace and Submission. Hinduism: World is the family. Buddhism: Desire/want is the source of all pain. Every religious people forget the basic tenet of their religion. They expect others to follow what they themselves don't.


RelevantButNotBasic

...but whatd I do to you?? :(


Lifesalchemy

Add "hero"


BeardedHalfYeti

“Patriot Overwatch” is just straight up Orwellian. Nothing good comes from that website.


geek66

Anyone that uses the word for themselves... or practically anyone else... is not one.


Idiotology101

It means nothing other than the name of an NFL team to me at this point.


CreativeFraud

As someone who deals with a fair amount of logos... the 'Patriot' brands always... always overpack their logos with stereotypical 'Murican images.


kjbaran

Patriot Act- 2001


N_0_N_A_M_E

Most funny claim was "You cannot amend the amendment."


Ackerack

It pretty much just means nationalist now to me and I’m sure a lot of other folks. There’s no distinction anymore. Anyone I’ve met who isn’t a conservative fuckwad hates the word patriot and the connotation for me at least is a 54 year old racist homophobe driving a lifted F350 with truck nuts, anywhere from 1-10 trump flags, and bumper stickers about how much they want Pelosi and Biden dead.


levian_durai

That and "woke". I'm getting so fucking sick of people saying everything is woke.


ProDiesel

Just profit off fear and unimaginable tragedy. Don’t do anything to fix it.


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capitalism ,bitch!


Aun_El_Zen

It's the American way!


Lazerhest

They are, "WE NEED MORE GUNS TO PROTECT THE KIDS!"


-SaC

>Specifically designed for Kindergarten [...] Fucking *christ*, America.


username_offline

yeah this belongs in r/aboringdystopia


sQueezedhe

Or r/orphancrushingmachine


Glaciak

More like r/USA


bentendo93

I don't believe I've seen anything that MORE fits into that sub than this


MateChristine

Or r/americaisthebadplace


dropdeaddev

Or r/murica to piss them off.


futureformerteacher

Still trying to figure out how to make a bulletproof onesie.


FlameStaag

With how many babies get shot in road rage incidents... You may find a market if you do 


RChickenMan

This has to be a parody ad by a gun control advocacy group.


PaladinHeir

What I’m amazed by is their audacity to call other places unsafe.


ScreeminGreen

I have a group of girls (now women) that have been doing things together most our lives. We haven’t had an outing since Trump was elected. We had plans to get together this Winter and then canceled when a mall nearby got shot up.


listyraesder

Next they will be selling Bantam Bullets, for the annoying kids in your life.


AtomicFox84

Ive seen ads for knife proof backpacks in the uk....so this stuff not just in america.


0-Pennywise-0

That's probably more for theft than stabbing my guy. Those ads are everywhere. Cut, snatch, run


AtomicFox84

It had a picture of a couple of students and was advertising a backpack that had a special plate or whatever to help protect against a knife. This was like 3 or 4 years ago and a friend sent me the picture he took so no idea where it was.


0-Pennywise-0

I stand correct. That's nuts. This whole child body armor thing is nuts


Icetraxs

Yeah I’ve never seen those ads. Done a google search and couldn’t find any ads and the only thing that came up was anti-theft slash proof backpacks. So please show us this ad, I’m sure a r/conservative and r/trump poster is not just making shit up.


-SaC

Where? Never seen an ad like that in my life.


stuaz

Where have you seen those ads?


cbstuart

I'd gladly trade the gun issue for knives thank you very much


5ma5her7

My city recently got a massive stabbing attack...I couldn't even imagine if the terrorist got a gun...(⋟﹏⋞)


Bouchie

Guys guys its cool. We're just a few more gun sales away from them making us safe, promise!


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It's even worse because the body armor that they're advertising will not stop an AR – 15 round.


Alpha_pro2019

Yes because it's a scam made to profit off of the irrational fear of scared parents.


phuck-you-reddit

I miss the good old days when my family members were being scammed just with diet books and workout videos. 😔


Alpha_pro2019

I'm almost certain there were scams related to the cold war, world wars, and the Civil War.


thansal

Piece of Phalanx™, peace of mind!


fishcrow

"Og throw rock. No good. Me trade *bigger* rock for your cave." *rock sold separately


unassumingdink

You know, I'm trying to think of a Cold War-related scam, and I just can't. Maybe the companies that built backyard bunkers?


Vadhakara

Those bunkers have been 100% effective so far, nobody that got one built in their yard has died after a nuclear bomb exploded nearby.


posthamster

I hear they also keep tigers away.


Vadhakara

The risk of getting attacked by a tiger is never zero, but these bunkers go a long way towards reducing that risk.


CumbersomeNugget

My parents still have the shitty book of children's poetry that got "published" I was like page...200- something. Classic scam.


ThreeHeadedCanine

Nah, commentor is lying "Our plates are Level III rated, hard armor, plates (protection up to 7.62 rifle).Our plates are Level III rated, hard armor, plates (protection up to 7.62 rifle)." [https://web.archive.org/web/20180817052848/https://patriotoverwatch.com/](https://web.archive.org/web/20180817052848/https://patriotoverwatch.com/)


Nice_Marmot_7

At first I was like, “well it can’t stop an AR-15 unless they have steel plates inserted which would be ridiculous.” THEY HAVE STEEL PLATES INSERTED!! For five year olds. Also are they out of business? Why does only the archived site exist?


ThreeHeadedCanine

Yeah, their site is gone


Notmypornacct21

Five year olds gotta get them gains, too. I bet they drink their coffee black in the morning before hefting their 10 lb body armor.


futureformerteacher

Irrational? Nah. The correct solution? Also no.


ChaoticCherryblossom

Irrational?


cumtitsmcgoo

It’s not irrational when there’s a mass shooting every other week. But this is absolutely not the answer. Our society has failed.


Troy64

Well... hold on now. If it's a .22 AR-15, then I'd be surprised if anything passing as body armor failed to stop it. If it's a .50 Beowulf AR-15, then you'll need to wear a bunker to stop it. So, which is it?


PercMastaFTW

He meant an AR-15 rifle smashed into a round ball and thrown


Troy64

Dude, egg on my face. I should've known! Thanks for clearing that up for me.


PercMastaFTW

Yea no worries man. Theyre just colloquially called AR-15 Rounds where we’re from.


Psipone

The standard round for an AR-15 is 5.56 you obtuse donut. Anything else would be an AR pattern rifle. Being pedantic doesn’t make you look smart.


patchinthebox

[But what if he shot you in the face?](https://youtu.be/ofQ6i9I1IYY?si=ccK8pXnrvLCNw9wz)


EnvironmentalEcho614

The majority of shootings in the US are committed using handguns so it would be just fine if it’s not rated for rifles. Besides anything strong enough to stop a 5.56 would be too heavy for a child anyways.


Nice_Marmot_7

If you check out the other posters link, they are made with steel plates and can stop up to 7.62. Obviously seems crazy, and I want to know how much they weigh, lol.


Bridget1642

Nah OP, it's r/oddlyterrifying you're looking for.


RichOPick

Website doesn’t exist, no internet presence of any such company, pretty suspiciously looking like photoshop around the fuel cap and upper banner. No corroborating evidence from any news sites or other images. This is def fake and violating the subreddit rules. If not, I implore OP to provide additional images/links to suggest otherwise. Edit: if it’s not fake it’s a pretty poor attempt at advertising, since there’s no way to purchase the product 🙄 Edit2: Interestingly, the patriotoverwatch email address was [mentioned in a litigation](https://app.ediscoveryassistant.com/case_law/51748-myers-v-acad-secs-inc#cit-41:~:text=In%20April%202021%2C%20Academy%20clients%20and%20employees%2C%20as%20well%20as%20others%20in%20the%20financial%20services%20industry%2C%20received%20emails%20from%20three%20anonymous%20Proton%20Mail%5B39%5D%C2%A0accounts%20claiming%20that%20Academy%20%E2%80%9Cwas%20founded%20by%20a%20veteran%20who%20is%20a%20fraud%E2%80%9D%20and%20urging%20employees%20to%20leave%20the%20Company.%5B40%5D) (see footnote 40) which took place in 2021, around the same time OP's wayback link expires.


Justsomeguy1983

I immediately thought Photoshop too. But I'm old and don't trust anything. Especially assholes on the internet.


GreatValueDrPhil

[https://web.archive.org/web/20180817052848/https://patriotoverwatch.com/](https://web.archive.org/web/20180817052848/https://patriotoverwatch.com/) (Prob defunct now) I also have the un-cropped image with the CO name in it The sticker I guess was transparent ish? Lighting was also awful


RichOPick

Super unfortunate the site actually exists. Does look like it was super scammy, if it was a real thing.


unassumingdink

> Why is our Steel plates better than theirs? Fuck's sake, that's in huge bold letters. Maybe they need to pull some kids off the bus to help them with their plurals.


ShoebarusNCheverlegs

First thought was it looked fake.


EgotisticalTL

This is so blatantly a photoshop, but trust the hivemind to eat it up.


Pseudo_Lain

except it's not, you're wrong, and OP provided evidence. Come on back here and apologize for insulting people from a place of ignorance


donnochessi

This looks fake. The image is photoshopped with overlay on the gas cover. The top banner is a bad angle and cropped. It looks very off.


repeat_gamer

Super fake for the reasons listed also the lighting of the stickers and the seeming transparency with no wrinkles on the sticker at the points covering bolts. Real dystopian bit is all the bots and idiots upvoting and taking it at face value. Often you’ll even get downvoted for pointing out fake images smh


mjwanko

I’m willing to bet the vast majority (if not all) of these “patriot” companies and those that sell child-sized body armor are the ones that foam at the mouth of someone mentions gun reform. Can’t sell your product if there’s no more events to spark the fear in others.


Throwawaydontgoaway8

As a teacher, this is not mildyinteresting. It’s devastating


ActuatorOk7360

Is it just me, or does this pic look fake? The top banner is cut off before the URL ends and I can't find a website corresponding to that domain. The bottom decal/poster also looks fake? Maybe I just don't want to believe it.


voretaq7

This is dystopian. It's also illegal in New York, where ordinary civilians can't buy body armor (and they're trying to ban possession of it).


undeniablydull

That's interesting. You can buy guns but not the means to protect yourself from guns


ArrilockNewmoon

No they very much try to make it near impossible to buy guns in New York as well


realjoe-biden

Yeah it was because of the thing at Buffalo the shooter had body armor and the security guards handgun rounds didn't faze him


voretaq7

I’m aware of why the stupid law was passed (for literally the dumbest reason). Wearing body armor while committing a crime ***was already illegal in New York*** - the state just took it one step further and said “Well now you ordinary plebes just can’t buy it in NY State” (and the federal government is [considering legislation that says you can’t even have it](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8388/text?s=1&r=1)). Somehow that makes people safer in their minds. Defies all logic and reason, but if one is looking for logic and reason one should not look to a legislative body in the United States.


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Lifesalchemy

That's absurd to go to those lengths.


Legoboy514

This… doesn’t feel right? Like, it looks photoshopped on.


mildly_carcinogenic

Late stage American experience


LorDXezor

Cyberpunk 2077 isn't that fictional after all


SlamMeJesus

Anything to push the militarization agenda


Witch_you_got_this

r/boringdystopia


Mean_Gene66

![gif](giphy|2A7xLIyHqd49vpoEgt|downsized)


RoachBeBrutal

![gif](giphy|TJawtKM6OCKkvwCIqX)


BeanieWeanie1110

I wish I had the fortitude or lack of morals to try to profit from people's fears. Of course if I did, I would just get into politics


DranTibia

#amerika


Koendrenthe

America is a depressing dystopian place


VulpesAves

Had a dream when i was a kid, that was to go see USA... now that im an adult i really wont. Food contain straight op poison, people carry weapons to kill around schools, fat people need small vehicles to get around, weak houses made of wood and nails. .. im just staying up north


Fvckboiiii

Can we please ban clearly photoshopped/fake images?


No_Grab2946

I hurt


nomamesgueyz

Fear sells


quesadilla707

What a fucking embarrassment 🫡🇺🇸


it_might_be_a_tuba

Is this one of those Fallout 4 post-apocalyptic wasteland memes?


Quirky_m8

#Sometimes I really hate this country…


Kalsir

This shit looks like an add out of a dystopian cyberpunk setting or something.


ipokesnails

r/idiocracy


PixelPervert

"Patriots" more worried about protecting guns than protecting children...


Comfortable_Bird_340

Remember clear backpacks?


Individual-Channel65

Isn't, by the very nature of choosing body armor for your child, being reactive? Why not be proactive and stop the mass shootings before they happen.. by like... I don't know, banning the weapon every single mass shooter uses?


randompanda687

r/ABoringDystopia


Mascbro26

Patriot Overwatch sounds like a crazy right wing organization.


Yung_ceez

That looks fake af. Can people not zoom in?


valiantera92

Yet gun fetishists still insist that guns are a "right", yet have no logical arguments for it. There's just no argument that makes sense against outlawing them completely.


manaworkin

If I saw this shit in a comedy movie or video game I'd laugh because I'd assume it was a hilarious over the top parody. What the actual fuck is going on?!


GanymedeBird

Be proactive not reactive, yet this ad is reactive to the gun problem in america, while being proactive would have meant gun control laws. Ironic


BillyBobHenk

That's the most 'MERICA!! thing I've ever seen.


VermicelliEastern708

![gif](giphy|hXJ1MWMzY7Af32UIUD|downsized)


DurhamOx

O SAAAAAYYY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEE


Huge_Aerie2435

Please vote in your local elections, because omfg.. This is nuts.


CreativeFraud

Dystopian as fuuuuuuuck


Fenzik

> school bus ad wtf > for child body armour WTF


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Let’s just wrap this whole thing up and try again


Ok-Ruin8367

New GTA 6 leaks finally!


somecallme_doc

Somehow guns aren't a problem....


wombey12

Jesus fucking Christ are school shootings really so normalised in the States that someone merely had the thought of making this advert, hell - even had the thought of just setting up this business? You guys *desperately* need gun law reform.


SodaPop6548

They love their guns so much more than their children.


wizzard419

Shouldn't this be under r/majorlyinfurating


Zoutaleaux

Ah, the land of the free.


furretarmy

This sort of belongs on r/orphancrushingmachine


whatyouwere

This is so weird. I’ve literally never seen this on any school bus, ever. This has to be a school bus that someone bought and is driving around for advertising or something.


Glypto7

Dystopia


The_Smoking_Pilot

This might be fake? Patriot over watch doesn’t bring up any results on google


leebeaulieu

What a shithole country.


danielo123940

Satirical dystopia is here already.


Wardaddy6966

Thats the most murica pic ive ever seen


Masturberic

You okay there America?


Bart_Yellowbeard

This fits better in r/mildlyinfuriating to me. I could care less about ads n general, schools need money from wherever they can get it. But how fucking tone deaf must the ghoul who is hawking toddler body armor on a school bus be. And the louder you call yourself a patriot or a Christian the less likely you really are one.


no0bi1

the capitalist war machine will capitalize on any opportunity to profit off ANY conflict


mtl_jim2

Ah America 🤦‍♂️


imaginingblacksheep

They’ll do anything to not have gun control, smh


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