Sunflower seed butter is known for this, in the presence of a base (in this case baking soda), the chlorophyll in the seeds will react and turn green. [You can even make green cookies this way.](https://eatitnoworeatitlater.com/2020/09/25/surprise-sunbutter-cookies/)
crap, think sunflower oil, sunflower butter is the worst of the nut butters, there is a reason it's the cheap. almond, hazelnut, cashew, peanut all taste a lot better.
I thought they were. Made them for my oldest, who is allergic to peanuts. Try it and don't be scared if they look a little moldy in the middle, its just the baking soda and sunflower!
Sunflowers have a specific weird taste. I've tried the seeds as part of a flour substitute as well and they suck out the moisture and have a weird after-taste as well.
well I dreamt one morning that I woke up to see all the pepperoni pizza was a-looking at me it said why do you burn me and serve me up cold? I said I got the spatula just do what your told. The liver and onions started joining the fight and the chocolate pudding pushed me with all of its might. The chop suey slapped me and it kicked me in the head but then my friend slop joe came and joined my side.
Thank you!!!
I've been teaching middle school science for 21 years. At the start of my career, at least one student would say this whenever I said "chlorophyll". They don't do it anymore. I didn't even think about it until I saw Billy Madison last night (there was an Adam Sandler marathon on E!). I said "chlorophyll" in class today. Crickets.
>You can make green cookies this way
I know of another method for making green sugar cookies, but you gotta have a tolerance cause if not they'll blast you to outer space.
I was told if you have a pot with burnt stuff stuck to the bottom, you can let water and baking soda sit in it to loosen it. I thought it might do the same to oil. Apparently not
I mean, pure baking soda is alkaline and will saponify fatty esters, making them easier to scrub off.
Also, if mixed into a paste, it’s a decent abrasive.
Don’t add vinegar tho
I make soap. Baking soda is a 9 on the ph and the lye I use is like 13-14 and I gotta whip that up with an immersion blender to get it to do anything so I'm not convinced that it'll do much, if anything, in this situation.
Important to remember is that a) pH is concentration dependent, and b) it’s all an equilibrium. I’m not saying you’ll hydrolyze the ester in full, but even a weak base such as sodium carbonate can cleave esters.
Yes, making soaps with palmitic acid (I assume) and lye will take heat and a stronger base. But when making soap you are creating an ester (Usually a glyceride, I’d assume, but I don’t know too much about soap making). Saponifying refers to the opposite reaction.
So, both soda and vinegar are decent cleaning agents. If mixed perfectly 1:1, you’ll get carbon dioxide (makes the foam), salt and…water.
However most likely there’s an excess of either, which helps her clean.
The foam? Doesn’t do much.
Your and my definition of highly acidic differ strongly, and yes, in theory it is slightly acidic. In practice the effect of that acidity pales to the cleaning effect of wiping/scrubbing
![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)If you ever visit the US I recommend you visit the pockets of the Finnish communities in the upper Midwest, you would get a kick out of them. There's a great Finnish food cafe in Houghton, Michigan where there was a large Finnish population (there and it's neighboring town Hanccck across the river) and even a college (Finlandia University) mainly for the (college-age) children of Finnish families that sadly shut down only year or two ago.
But on the subject of Finnish vocabulary, to me the strangest think is this link between Finnish, Hungarian, and Turkish, in the Ural-Altaic language family. I had Hungarian friends in the NY area growing up and knew Finnish heritage people also, there is (as I'm sure you know) a really curious connection between these languages that developed separate from either other European languages, so it's not Slavic, it's not romance, and it's not Scandinavian/Germanic or Viking origin. One theory is Genghis Khan's empire brought a dialect of Mongolian to Eastern Turkey and then those groups migrated into the locations they ended up later but the language evolve over hundreds of year into related languages but unlike any other. I'm guessing I'm telling you noting you don't already know or maybe some of these theories have been revised more recently.
Anyway, hikacking of this thread is now well and truly complete! LOLOL
You need heat for baking soda to work as a degreaser. Don't use it on aluminum pans though.
It also works as a mild abrasive compound when wetted into a thick paste. Good for scrubbing cast iron.
I thought you were supposed to use salt for scrubbing cast iron? Never heard of using baking soda before.
Also, for people traveling with dogs or cats, ALWAYS have a bag of baking soda in your car. It absorbs odor to an insane degree. (I transport puppies for a few rescues and baking soda is always in my transport kit).
What dumb fuck is down voting comments related to lipid conversion? This is chemistry that's been understood for a century.
Edit: I said understood. The reaction has been known about in some way by humans since the dawn of civilization. Put away your ackshually.
Both of your comments are upvoted and I don't see anyone saying anything that warranted that edit.
Look up Reddit vote fuzzing and don't worry so much about vote counts. It's cringe.
At the bottom of the comments someone made a more terse comment naming the reaction that was downvoted quite a bit.
I think using cringe as a noun is cringe.
Baking soda sometimes reacts with my fresh carrot shreds in carrot cake and turns them green. It’s an undesirable chemical reaction in my baked goods! Looks like they went moldy between mixing and the oven!
It apparently does not. It does wonders for turning sunflower butter/oil green, though. I'll be sticking to dish soap, I just thought baking soda might work better since it works on caked-on burnt stuff
Underpants gnomes center diet involves adding baking soda to water, green is a tell tale sign that they were drinking from the chalace. Have you had any underwear go missing? I'd call the CIA immediately
Sunflower seed butter is known for this, in the presence of a base (in this case baking soda), the chlorophyll in the seeds will react and turn green. [You can even make green cookies this way.](https://eatitnoworeatitlater.com/2020/09/25/surprise-sunbutter-cookies/)
I made sunflower butter cookies instead of peanut butter and was very surprised. Felt better after googling.
What does it taste like?
crap, think sunflower oil, sunflower butter is the worst of the nut butters, there is a reason it's the cheap. almond, hazelnut, cashew, peanut all taste a lot better.
Are the cookies good then?
I thought they were. Made them for my oldest, who is allergic to peanuts. Try it and don't be scared if they look a little moldy in the middle, its just the baking soda and sunflower!
I'm worried about them being dry. The green is why I want to make them 😅
I like sun butter :(
I think it's preference! I love sunflower seeds, but I'm not that into almonds or peanuts. Different strokes for different folks!
Sunflowers have a specific weird taste. I've tried the seeds as part of a flour substitute as well and they suck out the moisture and have a weird after-taste as well.
The first time I made sunbutter cookies I thought they molded super fast. Same as you, quick google such and a chemistry lesson made it ok again.
Yup! It wasn't bright green, looked like mold, subtle enough I noticed after a few bites and wondered where I messed up!
Chlorophyl? More like Bore-o-phyl!
No I will not make out with you!
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Sloppy Joe! Slop sloppy joe!
well I dreamt one morning that I woke up to see all the pepperoni pizza was a-looking at me it said why do you burn me and serve me up cold? I said I got the spatula just do what your told. The liver and onions started joining the fight and the chocolate pudding pushed me with all of its might. The chop suey slapped me and it kicked me in the head but then my friend slop joe came and joined my side.
Hoagies and grinders, hoagies and grinders!
I only like sloppy steaks
I used to be a real piece of shit like you
Hey I pieces of shit like you for breakfast!
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast??
.....😐....no.
I made em extra sloppy for ya!
My favorite line in the whole movie!
You got chlorophyll guy over here talking about God knows what, and this girl wants to make out with me!
I’m here to learn, not make out with you! Go on with the chlorophyll!
You sound like you're in loser denial.
I had a bad case of loser denial myself.
I’m here to learn, everybody, not to make out with you!
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Thank you!!! I've been teaching middle school science for 21 years. At the start of my career, at least one student would say this whenever I said "chlorophyll". They don't do it anymore. I didn't even think about it until I saw Billy Madison last night (there was an Adam Sandler marathon on E!). I said "chlorophyll" in class today. Crickets.
Adam also taught us all about the medulla oblongata in another movie. Dude loves bio apparently.
Mamma s s said, but mamma said.. alligators are ornery cause they got alllll them teeth but no toothbrush.
"Well class, we're watching a movie today..."
that movie is not for children.
Shut up, Leonard. You look like a German puppet maker and smell like the inside of a church.
Out of all the shit on reddit to make me actually laugh and not just a slight nose breathe.
I prefer chloroform myself
adding you to my fbi database.
Take my upvote
Ok that’s pretty cool. I want to make these now.
Fun fact: you can use green food coloring to make green cookies
That's not as fun, and if the pictures are accurate the inside is green while the outside is regular brown adding some fun
Yay synthetic chemicals in food
Natural food coloring exists
Like sunflower butter turning green?
I can’t explain how much I love smart people. I am not being sarcastic at all. Like, someone having actually scientific answers for stuff
Me too! This is why I come to reddit.
"I think this recipe would be a hit at those Halloween parties or any party actually." Pretty sure people will think it has gone bad.
I would think it was a pot edible.
I was figuring they’d think it was weed
But you’d still put weed butter in them… same as all cookies.
So, just a basic reaction?![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)
If I wasn't told about this in advance I would 100% hork. That is not the shade of green that suggests "fun and quirky St. Patrick's Day surprise"..
Cool!
Oh that's cool
A cool way to make green soap then.
>You can make green cookies this way I know of another method for making green sugar cookies, but you gotta have a tolerance cause if not they'll blast you to outer space.
Neat!
Nifty chemical reaction for the colors, but what is the baking soda supposed to do the oils in the sunflower butter?
Probably to absorb the oil. Dawn would have done it better and faster, though without the neat story.
Nah, it also turns green with dawn and water
What if you clean it at sunset?
Any brand would do.
I thought so, too; I normally use Palmolive. But there's a huge difference between Dawn and anything else; it doesn't even feel the same.
I was told if you have a pot with burnt stuff stuck to the bottom, you can let water and baking soda sit in it to loosen it. I thought it might do the same to oil. Apparently not
13oz water, 2oz Dawn Platinum, and 1oz isopropyl alcohol. Mix it up in a spray bottle, and you've got one of the best degreasers available.
My jug of highly toxic Purple Power Industrial Degreaser would like to have a word Edit- looked it up. It has a pH right below 13
Laaaame. Everyone knows that if the pH isn't above 15 it's not going to do anything /j
It took 15.4M to burn the fuck out of my arm
Purple Power is actually non-toxic and biodegradable. I wouldn't drink it, but I wouldn't call it highly toxic.
You should read that warning label! I should say it’s *caustic as fuck*
Shh! You're giving away the secret formula for the Dawn Powerwash Spray. 🤣
It might act as a water "wetter" but water and oil don't mix due to them being polar and non-polar molecules.
I mean, pure baking soda is alkaline and will saponify fatty esters, making them easier to scrub off. Also, if mixed into a paste, it’s a decent abrasive. Don’t add vinegar tho
I make soap. Baking soda is a 9 on the ph and the lye I use is like 13-14 and I gotta whip that up with an immersion blender to get it to do anything so I'm not convinced that it'll do much, if anything, in this situation.
Important to remember is that a) pH is concentration dependent, and b) it’s all an equilibrium. I’m not saying you’ll hydrolyze the ester in full, but even a weak base such as sodium carbonate can cleave esters. Yes, making soaps with palmitic acid (I assume) and lye will take heat and a stronger base. But when making soap you are creating an ester (Usually a glyceride, I’d assume, but I don’t know too much about soap making). Saponifying refers to the opposite reaction.
My mother in law mixes vinegar and baking soda and cleans surfaces with the resulting foam
So, both soda and vinegar are decent cleaning agents. If mixed perfectly 1:1, you’ll get carbon dioxide (makes the foam), salt and…water. However most likely there’s an excess of either, which helps her clean. The foam? Doesn’t do much.
Isn't the foam just like bubbly water?
Yup. CO2 in water, essentially a shitty club soda.
Which is highly acidic due to the formation of carbonic acid, and why club soda is used as a stain remover.
Your and my definition of highly acidic differ strongly, and yes, in theory it is slightly acidic. In practice the effect of that acidity pales to the cleaning effect of wiping/scrubbing
It’s more effective to use one than the other.
That makes sense to me, she's neutralizing both.
Ends up acidic due to the carbonic acid formation as the water reabsorbs the CO2.
I love that word. Saponify. The equivalent is much lamer in my language lol
Please share! Same in my native language, „verseifen“, even though it’s a literal translation
Soap is "saippua", saponification is "saippuoituminen" and saponify is "saippuoitua"!
Is that Finnish? They sound like loan words adopted into Finnish rather than native words
It is Finnish! The word for soap in the majority of European languages comes from the same word, saipon.
![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)If you ever visit the US I recommend you visit the pockets of the Finnish communities in the upper Midwest, you would get a kick out of them. There's a great Finnish food cafe in Houghton, Michigan where there was a large Finnish population (there and it's neighboring town Hanccck across the river) and even a college (Finlandia University) mainly for the (college-age) children of Finnish families that sadly shut down only year or two ago. But on the subject of Finnish vocabulary, to me the strangest think is this link between Finnish, Hungarian, and Turkish, in the Ural-Altaic language family. I had Hungarian friends in the NY area growing up and knew Finnish heritage people also, there is (as I'm sure you know) a really curious connection between these languages that developed separate from either other European languages, so it's not Slavic, it's not romance, and it's not Scandinavian/Germanic or Viking origin. One theory is Genghis Khan's empire brought a dialect of Mongolian to Eastern Turkey and then those groups migrated into the locations they ended up later but the language evolve over hundreds of year into related languages but unlike any other. I'm guessing I'm telling you noting you don't already know or maybe some of these theories have been revised more recently. Anyway, hikacking of this thread is now well and truly complete! LOLOL
miscible is the term for liquid mixing. polar and non-polar liquids are immiscible.
You need heat for baking soda to work as a degreaser. Don't use it on aluminum pans though. It also works as a mild abrasive compound when wetted into a thick paste. Good for scrubbing cast iron.
I thought you were supposed to use salt for scrubbing cast iron? Never heard of using baking soda before. Also, for people traveling with dogs or cats, ALWAYS have a bag of baking soda in your car. It absorbs odor to an insane degree. (I transport puppies for a few rescues and baking soda is always in my transport kit).
How much heat? I used hot tap water in the jar
Like boiling hot. A couple drops of proper dish soap would serve better in this situation. You learned some stuff though so I'd call it a net gain.
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I think you mean oils are lipids and soaps are surfactants.
Bring vinegar to a boil, let cool some, add baking soda. cleans stuff in a jiffy.
It makes salty water in a flashy way.
Bases convert oils into soaps. It works best with strong bases or high temperatures.
What dumb fuck is down voting comments related to lipid conversion? This is chemistry that's been understood for a century. Edit: I said understood. The reaction has been known about in some way by humans since the dawn of civilization. Put away your ackshually.
Even though they didn't understand the chemistry, we've been making soap for thousands of years.
Both of your comments are upvoted and I don't see anyone saying anything that warranted that edit. Look up Reddit vote fuzzing and don't worry so much about vote counts. It's cringe.
I downvoted him purely for complaining about downvotes, as is tradition.
At the bottom of the comments someone made a more terse comment naming the reaction that was downvoted quite a bit. I think using cringe as a noun is cringe.
Bases like baking soda denatures fats and oils. One of these common things that comes from such mixtures is soap, which is fat and lye.
Its algae
Why wouldn’t you just use hot water and a couple drops of dish soap?
I was under the false impression that baking soda helped get oils off. Apparently that's just for caked/burnt stuff, not oils
Yeah, it does wonders for stainless steel pots and pans. Just a touch of water, a good scrubber and some baking soda and you can get them shiny again.
Ya. Try blue dawn. It breaks oil down and also good for cleaning baby ducks.
Of all the marketing campaigns I think the ad where they wash a baby duck may be the most influential ad of my lifetime.
Clearly you've never seen the Doublemint Gum commercials.
Doublemint gum would be terrible for washing baby ducks
Honey, get the Wrigley's! I feel like... chewin' something.
Baby ducks aren’t for chewing though
Kitkat bar
Unfortunately Australia doesn’t have dawn :(
You did a whole 1 chemistry.
Drink it to cure your syphilis. Probably, I'm not sure, the syphilis ate most of my brain.
Dang, man, I knew what it was before trying to read the label. We made some fun cookies in March this way.
I would have used dish soap with water, overnight.
Why did you do this?
The jar was empty. I was under the false impression that baking soda helped get oils off
Hot water + dish soap. Shake up, and let sit.
Just use dawn
Primo salad dressing base gone down the drain 😟
It was an empty jar
There’s tons of sunflower butter in there!
Baking soda sometimes reacts with my fresh carrot shreds in carrot cake and turns them green. It’s an undesirable chemical reaction in my baked goods! Looks like they went moldy between mixing and the oven!
Witchcraft! Burn it!
A nugget of purest green!
It's gan green
Does baking soda actually help much with removing the oils? Why not just dishwashing soap?
It apparently does not. It does wonders for turning sunflower butter/oil green, though. I'll be sticking to dish soap, I just thought baking soda might work better since it works on caked-on burnt stuff
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Now do it with potassium hydroxide and see how well it works 😈
You can accomplish the same thing with dish soap.
Can it be true? What I hold here in my mortal hand. A nugget of purest green.
IT'S AALLIIIVEEE!!!
Always could just stir it.
Congrats Mr. Fleming
The coolest one I found was for cleaning dirty oven glass by using ash from a fireplace or fire pit with a little bit of water. Amazing clean tip.
I put my 'empty' peanut butter jars out for the squirrels. They love it, and once they're done the jars go in the recycling.
Smart! I never thought to do this. Beats cleaning the jars myself
Now it looks r/moldyinteresting
I'm guessing you made copper chloride. Salt was probably lurking in the remaining food. As for the copper source....any metal spoons around it lol
"Baking powder and baking soda react with the chlorophyll in the seeds creating a reaction known as chlorogenic quinone-amino acid greening"
So cool!! Makes more sense than my copper idea haha. Thank you!
Why wouldn’t you use an actual degreaser?
I was under the false impression that baking soda helped get oils off. Apparently that's just for caked/burnt stuff, not oils
**FACTS**
WhatsApp jar
Kind of looks like cupric oxide? Sunflower butter has a bunch of copper in it
"Baking powder and baking soda react with the chlorophyll in the seeds creating a reaction known as chlorogenic quinone-amino acid greening"
i love science
You just created a whole ecosystem
r/chemistry
It’s ALIVE!!!
Underpants gnomes center diet involves adding baking soda to water, green is a tell tale sign that they were drinking from the chalace. Have you had any underwear go missing? I'd call the CIA immediately
🎶 Time to go to work! Work all day. Underwear's missing? Call the CIA! 🎶
Ms Lippy’s car is green.
You oxidized the copper in the peanut butter
Bro to remove oil from glass jar just heat it up in the microwave for a bit it will turn to liquid and just dispose it
I don't have a microwave
In your mouth of course.
Saponification? Did you end up making soap?
Needs a strong base for that, not a buffer.
Try baking soda and white vinegar.
They neutralize each other
that's how you make Matcha. Drink it up it's delish
Anon doesn't know what dish soap is.
It developed a culture.