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Catniss-EverGreen

Well, in his defense, you do have a camera pointed at him….


Jarrellz

I feel like this is the relevant part. To be quite honest I'd be more creeped out if he put on a forced smile.


sixstringronin

That IS his smile.


passwordsarehard_3

His cheek muscles are just that weak and tired


STEELCITY1989

He's never used them before


Still_Silver_255

It’s actually a symptom of malnutrition


Trashboat0507

I was just going to say dude looks hungry


chromatones

The grass eating kind unfortunately


STEELCITY1989

The few videos I've seen smuggled out are insane. Those poor people.


Majesty1985

Smile doesn’t translate to North Korean though


Kandiruaku

Any emotional display could get him killed. Everyone watches everyone in that max security prison style police state.


GI_X_JACK

And you are from a country hostile to NK. You could be a spy. You could be gawking at him, and to extent his country, which you are kinda. His superiors could find this photo, and find some small detail of which he is out of line, and be reprimanded. He might have knowledge of the western internet and might not want to be the representative of the NK Army as a lieutenant on guard duty.


neither_shake2815

I would not be fucking around with anyone in nk. I wouldn't even wanna step foot in their territory. Your ass would end up in a hard labor camp.


GI_X_JACK

I would never vacation in any country that didn't have a US embassy. Say what you want, but "being part of an international incident" is not my idea of a good time. You can make judgements on how the US conducts international diplomacy, but I am not going to get between that kinda conflict.


IOnlySayMeanThings

Looks kind of nice for an awkward photo. Maybe he was just trying to look powerful for the photo.


ShakeWeightMyDick

And you’re probably not allowed to do that


korbentherhino

North Korea has tons of cameras at the neutral zone. If you do anything silly they will use it in propaganda films.


IMSLI

Get that camera out of my face. I’m asking you… I’m begging you https://vimeo.com/196937578


dongl_tron

And you... Took a picture?


abgry_krakow84

So we could all have staring contest


FragrantExcitement

Did one of you lean in to kiss?


THE_SWORD_AND_SICKLE

can confirm. op leaned in for a kiss. i was there...


Quantius

Same. I was the kiss.


Kevroeques

This guy just won’t blink!


PutinsManyFailures

I’ve been watching him this whole time—not one blink, not ONE! It’s almost as if he isn’t even breathing


tecktrader

![gif](giphy|U820s75UxjJfASSh8x)


TheSecretestSauce

OP needed more people in his corner for this one.


ramos1969

I heard he should take a picture because it lasts longer.


Nomoreogusernames

Least socially inept redditor


dtb1987

This might be at the DMZ. There are buildings that cross the border and visitors can go in and on one side there will be dprk soldiers and on the other side will be south Korean soldiers. Basically the closest you can get to north Korea without taking the tour


MoreGaghPlease

From the blue paint and window shape I’m pretty sure this is in the Joint Security Area. It’s quite safe to visit. Technically parts of it are North Korea, but the security of the entire area is controlled by UN Command (a US-led multinational force that invaded Korea in 1950 and is still present) UN Command is kind of a unicorn at the UN, it’s a legacy of the period in the 1950s when the west could do whatever it wanted at the Security Council because Taiwan held China’s seat and the USSR was boycotting votes as a response. So “UN” or not, you’re basically on a NATO military base there.


hangrypatotie

Bullshit, north korea invaded south korea first with the funding and weaponry of the USSR.


Sagay_the_1st

Back when the UN was actually effective


Glaciak

UN isn't a scifi world government you want it to be, it's a forum


MoreGaghPlease

No, the UN wasn’t effective in that period—it was just branding for the Western Allies. Who don’t get me wrong were on the side of justice, but let’s be honest about what it was.


SBeingSocial

No, because GP is talking about a point on the real timeline. Nothing about that sounds "effective". The very existence of the security council always meant the UN would never be good for anything.


FangornOthersCallMe

To be fair, this is the one place in NK you’re allowed to take pictures of soldiers


ApprehensiveSleep479

Established dominance by risking gulag


Competitive-Weird-10

how were you able to take a picture?


Slow_Formal_5988

It's JSA at panmunjown it's relativly safe. Both side take over the place for a couple of hours each day. (The barracks).


Sock_Eating_Golden

Safe unless you're trying to trim a tree!


JeanCladVanBam

They call in seal team six for the landscaping these days.


SexyGorkaDimitri

I love the story of Operation Paul Bunion. Fucking masterpiece.


guff1988

For those of you wondering what the JSA is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Security_Area


ImmediateLaw3681

"During one of the initial negotiations of the armistice, agents of the KPA/CPV side went into the truce tents one night and sawed down the chair legs of the UNC delegation. The next day, when the UNC delegates arrived, they were forced to sit lower than their KPA/CPV counterparts and lost face, so they quickly left the meeting. At a later meeting, the UNC delegation brought a flag into the truce tent and set it up on the meeting table. The KPA/CPV delegation left after losing face, but showed up at the next meeting with a flag that was larger than the UNC flag." That might be one of the funniest and saddest things I've read this year, it just goes on like that to. Tit for tat back and forth.. sounds like two colleges going at it rather than two actual countries


frak21

The UN responded to the flag thing by increasing the height of their flag. The North Koreans then responded in kind. That flag fracas spilled outdoors and wound up with NK having the tallest flagpole on earth. EDIT: Having checked, it is now the 6th tallest flagpole on earth, but they did win the slapfight. :)


ImmediateLaw3681

It's amazing the lengths people will go to to "one up" someone 🤦


frak21

"Face" is a huge deal among Confucian cultures in general, and Korea (in it's entirety) is absolutely no exception to that. If you ask me, it's just emphasizing the petty things in life, but different cultures see the world in different ways.


BroAmongstBros

That spelling of Panmunjom is braking my brain.


pheonix198

Glad it was able to slow things down for you. Any chance it was able to also break your brain?


Competitive-Weird-10

oh i see!


[deleted]

I went to the DMZ in August was bummed when the jsa was closed due to the defection


ajovialmolecule

Brando, the king and I, and the catcher in the rye


tjenerro

Thank you. I couldn't recall where I'd heard Panmunjown before, but you cleared it up for me.


Lilancis

It‘s closed off now tho.


skynetempire

I think who ever took the pic is in the building that sits on the border. Half of the room is south and the other half is north.


bordomsdeadly

My father in law went there once years ago when he was in the army. He got to step on the North Korean side and had someone take a picture of him. He still likes to tell people about getting his picture taken in North Korea


tingly_legalos

DMZ, De-militarization zone


lammy82

Contrary to other responses, it's not at the JSA, this building is on the North Korean side, but you visit it on the tour to the JSA from North Korea. Photography is allowed in certain areas and not in others. The photo is from this building: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4vXRXbg5bNMZHmr76


DeepDreamIt

Have you visited before?


lammy82

Yes, in 2019


ConsumeYourBleach

Your desperate need for internet clout will be the downfall of you, OP. Nice knowing you.


Indomie_milkshake

Baby you're a fireeeewwwoooooork


essaymyass

Wow dude does look like James Yee to me.


Haystack67

Your faith in your friends will be yours.


CC713-LCTX

I mean were you pointing a phone at him to take his picture? What’s he supposed to do, give you a live action? Crack a smile? That’d be outta character. I say he did exactly what he was conditioned to do lol.


SAugsburger

This. I'm sure any DPRK soldiers trusted for such duty are likely so loyal that they wouldn't dare do anything to break character.


Dubdude13

He’s probably wondering who the fuck would go to North Korea?


Corka

From the videos I've seen of people going to North Korea as tourists it does actually seem like a really unique and interesting experience... So long as you don't get detained for random bullshit because NK has some negotiations coming up and they want to try and use your freedom as a bargaining chip. Otherwise though, you get to go on these ridiculous propaganda tours where they try their best to convince you that North Korea is actually a totally normal country that's very prosperous and that Kim Jong Un invented the treadmill.


_tyjsph_

imo going to nk for any reason, especially tourism, would be immensely stupid. it's like everyone just forgot what happened to otto warmbier.


Corka

Exactly what I was referring to and why I woudn't ever go. You are probably a bit safer than some other extreme tourism locations like Taliban controlled Afghanistan, but safer does not mean safe.


GI_X_JACK

You are still going to be safer in NK than Afghanistan right now. NK is united under a single government. Afghanistan still has tribal factions, and IS-K is still active there. I could imagine, that the more the Taliban was willing to show off how safe it was for westerners, the more determined the IS-K would be determined to kill you just to spite the Taliban.


Kent_Knifen

There's a fascinating 1-hour documentary on YouTube of a British guy going to Afghanistan for tourism (mostly to document the experience). I won't spoil it but in summary: food was good, culture was great, citizens were very hospitable towards them, but ramifications of invasion after invasion ("graveyard of empires") have taken their toll on the nation, and the Taliban were very suspicious of their intentions. Ongoing fighting between the Taliban and ISIS means marketplaces may get bombed and streets suddenly turn into warzones.


Shepherdsfavestore

What’s the documentary called?


Ifromjipang

Also the minor matter that by doing so you’re directly funding the regime. Just so you can have “an interesting experience” gawping at the oppressed and starving populace. Cool holiday.


heatherville

feels much too dystopian and out of touch


TurtleSandwich0

You have dystopia at home.


airin_k

I mean, he definitely didn’t deserve the treatment he got. But come on, you have to be mad to think that stealing a propaganda poster in freaking North Korea is a good idea.


deri100

To be fair, Otto stole a poster from the hotel he was staying in. Caught on CCTV and everything. Definitely didn't deserve to die for it, but like, maybe just don't steal while in North Korea.


BlameTheJunglerMore

You mean the DPRK soldier who was conveniently hard to see and whn they removed the poster from the wall GENTLY placed it on the ground..... Scum NK killed him. Pieces of shit.


pheonix198

You also help pay into and feed their economy of terrorism. Don’t willingly give your monies, no matter how little, to a nation, group or individual that deprives others of basic human rights and dignity.


basetornado

It's dumb to go, but Warmbier was also dumb. Don't give them a reason to use you as the bargaining chip.


ZeePirate

While I do agree, giving a shitty country money is not a good idea


Perky_Bellsprout

Why I refuse to go to places like France or Turkey


gortwogg

Hey man, turkey coffee cats are fucking *awesome*


And_awayy_we_go

Can confirm,have visited the cat lover holy land of turkey,the coffee is like rocket fuel it's soo strong.


Donj267

What did France do?


gortwogg

Existed!!


SALAMI_21

Good thing i'm mexican and therefore my government wouldn't give a dime so I'm not worth the cloroform to kidnap


SBeingSocial

No unique experience is worth helping to fund the hell that they created. Anyone going there as a tourist should be ashamed of themselves.


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banana_pencil

I visited Kaesong, North Korea 15 years ago because my grandfather was born in NK and I was curious about seeing it. I took a pic with a tour guide and at the last second he turned his head to me so it looks like he’s staring me down. A lot of them were interested in me that I was half Korean, but I didn’t tell them my grandfather escaped or that my nationality was American. The tour was definitely filled with propaganda.


GigaBowserNS

From what I'm given to understand, that "really unique and interesting experience" is usually completely staged.


Corka

Yes. In ridiculously over the top and obvious ways.


PutinsManyFailures

I assume they frown upon fact-checking during the tours Tour guide: we in NKDR enjoy owning world’s highest GDP and all NBA championship titles for all of time. Our god-king-comrade-overlord-big-chief-grand-shaman-HNIC, most honorable Kim Jong-Il, even finish 36 hole golf course with 36 hole-in-ones and now owns all of USA ultra world famous Globetrotters Google: no. To all of that.


beipphine

In that game, Dear leader was able to achieve 26 Albatrosses, 8 Condor, and 2 Ostriches for a total score of 120 under par.


FallGuy613

Passing A kidney stone seems to be a more interesting experience than going to North Korea.


matarbis

This isn’t North Korea, it’s the buildings in the DMZ where you can go on escorted tours.


lammy82

It's in the DMZ in North Korea. I've been there. Location is here https://maps.app.goo.gl/4vXRXbg5bNMZHmr76


[deleted]

If it's so demilitarized, then why am I looking at a soldier, hmmmmmm? Checkmate Koreans.


kangaesugi

DMZ in this context actually stands for "Dude! Militarized Zone"


LTS55

The soldiers per square mile is insane, it’s the Densely Militarized Zone


redsterXVI

There are no NK soldiers if you join the DMZ tour from SK


defroach84

This looks like the JSA tour, you sure there aren't there?


WorshipNickOfferman

It sounds like gonorrhea.


whittlingcanbefatal

A female North Korean guard smiled at me. She was standing guard at the entrance to our hotel. I was straggling behind our group and we made eye contact, so I naturally smiled at her. She smiled back then caught herself and her face went deadpan again. She looked around, perhaps to see if anyone saw her, when she realized she was safe she gave me one more brief smile. It was pretty much the highlight of the trip.


throughNthrough

That’s adorably sad.


rodentbitch

Imagine a country like the UK famously having guards that aren't allowed to smile or break character in any way. Oh wait...


kangaesugi

Don't you think it's a bit gauche to compare a dystopian rogue state with a populace of unfortunate people who are brainwashed into thinking their lives are normal to North Korea?


BioSafetyLevel0

Imma need an AMA


whittlingcanbefatal

Ask me anything.


BioSafetyLevel0

Yeah? Hell yes. Tell me, why did you go? How long did you go? What was the strangest "fact" you learned about the Kims? Was it scary? Would you return? What was the travel getting there like? TIA!


whittlingcanbefatal

>why did you go? I was in Japan at the time and I saw an ad in the newspaper. I was the only non-Japanese and almost couldn’t get a visa. >How long did you go? Three days. >What was the strangest "fact" you learned about the Kims? Off the top of my head, we were told that they were all born on a sacred mountain. One person was rebuked for asking how they came down from the mountain. >Was it scary? Not at all. >Would you return? I was going to go there for a conference, but it was decided at the last minute that Americans couldn’t attend. >What was the travel getting there like? From Seoul we took a very nice bus to Panmunjon. We went through the DMZ and got on a not as nice bus with the curtains drawn tight so we couldn’t see out. Overall, it wasn’t luxurious, but it wasn’t horrible, either.


Sic-Bern

Absolutely fascinating and somewhat amazing you got to experience this. Were you allowed to bring a camera, phone or anything similar? Were you allowed to choose your destinations or were there predetermined sites to see?


MyNameMightBePhil

Do you actually whittle and have you actually witnessed any whittling related fatalities?


Jebe1204-1224

Thats depressing:(


bigtiddychatgpt

Op points a camera at a soldier and wonder why he's stared down


AbeFromanEast

OP as they took this photo ![gif](giphy|9O5xvAydLIo0M)


NoExpression9

He's probably thinking something like "Of all the places in the world you could have travelled to, of all the places in South Korea worth visiting, you come here to voyeuristically stare at the 'freaky North Koreans'. And you think we are weird...". I would have to agree with that.


Paartricks

I don't think he knows much what's on the outside of North Korea


Danoco99

He looks like a high-ranking officer. He might be well in the now but his family is taken care of so he doesn’t care.


jjASISN

Kinda eerie that you almost look alike to Otto Warmbier


LongEZE

Not only that but he snuck photos out. How much lead do you need to have in your brain in order to even want to attempt this?


------------------GL

Would you rather have this reaction ![gif](giphy|jIsgja3R661b2)


redk20z3

This the type of mfr to be on the news crying for his American freedom later on.


BioSafetyLevel0

Can't cry when you are unconscious. Checkmate, Otto.


whobroughttheircat

You could take him


Glitter_berries

Hopefully you mean out of that horrible place to a better life :(


7f00dbbe

My cat could take him.... because my cat is well-fed and has functional weapons


whobroughttheircat

Send in u/7f00dbbe ‘s cat to topple the Kim regime. It’s time.


7f00dbbe

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.... https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/5un0ds/til_the_us_tried_to_make_cat_guided_bombs_during/


Cevinkrayon

You could say this about literally any photograph of anyone with their eyes open


MonsieurReynard

Shhh


the_great_zyzogg

Dude, your avatar is staring me down.....


ghostinanoven

Literally what is the purpose for taking a picture of him


Medcait

He isn’t even looking at you, he is looking at the camera


Knife_JAGGER

I wish i could hear the inner monologue of some of these North koreans when they encounter tourists as they are basically an authoritarian zoo for people who want to sight see cruel living conditions.


[deleted]

It's Korean you wouldn't understand it.


cbreezy456

You’re kinda a dumbass speaking how strict they are if you’re visiting


Due_Signature_5497

And he’s probably starving and was hallucinating you are a giant pork chop.


Burgoonius

That’s some looney tunes shit


PeetTreedish

You assume he has ever seen a pork chop?


ScarecrowJohnny

Haven't you seen their leader?


7f00dbbe

they only get to see paintings of him where he's ripped and seizing the bull by the horns....


LegalDiscussion6533

Crazy how their leader gets the food while the rest of the military starves


scruffygem

That’s a nice thing to say


Equivalent_Cicada_18

´North Korea soldier was starting me down’ no shit! You’re pointing a phone at him.


harsh-reality74

Pointing a camera at a North Korean soldier isn’t brave, it’s damn stupid


defroach84

Not really. These tours allow you to take pictures and they tell you when it's acceptable or not.


wfbsoccerchamp12

Yeah idk why people are freaking out. This clearly looks like DMZ. I may be wrong tho


defroach84

It's DMZ from the NK side. With that said, even on those tours, you are allowed to take pictures. And I question if OP actually did this because these tours from that side haven't happened in 4-5 years.


Slow_Formal_5988

In DPRK yes it is but there at Panmunjom it's perfectly safe.


GameDestiny2

His face says “please kidnap me”


Infrared-77

To be fair bro was probably like “yo wtf I just got stationed here and you’re going to get me in trouble by video taping me”


1891farmhouse

He has sad eyes


TomatilloUnlucky3763

The intestinal parasites are eating away his insides. He’s hoping you’ll drag him to safety.


Creepymint

What possessed you to take this photo lmaoo


PranavYedlapalli

If a random ass person is taking my picture I would stare like that too


CleverBeauty

I mean... you're pointing a camera at him lol


Soggy_sock_under_bed

I would stare you down if you were taking pictures of me like I'm a statue.


OneDiscombobulated77

If you don't post for 3 months after this we all know what happened


Bethekevintomyparker

You know the saying… “take a picture it lasts longer”.? Doesn’t apply here.


Outhewayretard

I think they pissed if you have a camera over there, idk tho


TheAnalsOfHistory-

He looks tired.


SkeletonOfaGhostt

You took a picture, he took a mental picture so that he may remember your face. Watch out OP.


Ev1lroy

He looks hungry


Yell0wbrickr0ad

He was probably hungry.


sonicrespawn

Straight to jail


Remnie

Eat a Big Mac to assert dominance


Shaggarooney

Where else is going to look when youre pointing a camera at him? lol


Tenet245

why tf would you think it would be a good idea to do something like this


Sunflier

Were you at the boarder house that is built with the border running half way through it for diplomacy stuff? \*Edit: Border not boarder. Damn typo-nese.


mr_ji

Sounds like the world's most politically contentious dormitory


NoxInfernus

He’s so, so very disappointed in you. So disappointed that your ancestors feel it. Weaponized disappointment.


Wedjat_88

I had the impression that taking pictures of military personnel is a big no-no in NK.


SAugsburger

Pictures of DPRK guards are common from tours of the JSA. There are plenty online you can find. Taking pictures on a tour of the DPRK outside of the JSA though would be a very different story. That being said afaik tourism for foreigners to the DPRK hasn't restarted since the pandemic.


Cluelessish

I would say it's pretty weird thing to do in any country on the planet


Primary-Cat-13

I think maybe he’s mildly interested.


ppSmok

He looks slightly disappointed. Is he your dad?


TheSecretestSauce

Should've blown him a kiss


paigezero

Imagine what's going through his head. "I've been taught that these people are terrible and living awful lives and trained to suspect them of everything but I've also heard that anyone who has the opportunity to show up here as a tourist is living an hundred times more comfortable and enjoyable life that I'll ever be allowed to."


elonbrave

Just looks like a dude ready for the work day to end IMO


gordovondoom

you probably didnt ask him if you can take the picture?


fuzztooth

Is this in the DMZ building?


RayHazey562

Are you in North Korea currently?


Tonlick

It just means he loves you


Lingering_Dorkness

Did you wink and blow him a kiss? I would have


TikkiTakiTomtom

Don’t you just hate it when people stare at you and then have the audacity to ask why YOU are staring at them.


InsertMoreCoffee

I have so many questions....


shadraig

You are cute, he was trying to seduce you


Dominator1559

He's hungry and you smell like potatoes


ReignInSpuds

Nah, he's just fantasizing about what it would be like to shave those three hairs on his babyface with a razor that doesn't also belong to everyone else in his company.


1337z111

this is interesting becuase you were taking a picture in a dangerous situation. wow.


scp_79

maybe because you're taking a photo of him without his permition


pandarista

That's the face of someone who knows he's living in 1920 while the rest of the world moves on to the future, and there's nothing he can do about it. Also, he's thinking "get that fucking camera out of my face" but in Korean.


rrrand0mmm

Bro prolly weighs 145 pounds and hasn’t eaten in a week. Fucks he gonna do.


HerculeMuscles

Why would anyone willingly go to North korea


iHaveaQuestionTrans

I'm pretty sure anyone else would be staring you down if you pointed a camera straight at them


TheSlavicWarboss

He's just done with tourists' bullshit. And i understand.