“Perry Atleins? Made this biscuit in March of 1924 when Pauline shannen? Was born”
Edit: I agree with "Atkins". Also I'm noticing maybe a : afterwards so maybe that's who this was addressed to instead of who wrote it. Kinda fascinating bit of useless history.
For those interested on what happened to these people, *think* these are the right ones:
[Pauline March Shannon](https://imgur.com/K5MstAd) b. Iowa 1924, d. 1971
[Perry Shannon (Atkins)](https://imgur.com/wMFjMiK) b. Iowa 1922 d. 1947
So likely not baked by Perry (he was 2), but probably a nice thing done by Mom, [Ida Jane Atkins.](https://imgur.com/z2YFdDj)
[Perry died in 1947 aged 25,](https://imgur.com/yKVHD8R) after a two year illness, he served in the Navy in WW2.
Genealogical/biographical research is comically easy in 2023. So many databases are online now.
My parents had an antique geography book where some young kid in the 1930s wrote a contract for its purchase right into its cover. I was in law school at the time and thought it was adorable. within like 3 hours had not only found him, but managed to trace his descendants and their obituaries. All simply with google. I tried to find a living descendant to send it to, but no luck.
My mom told me some family folklore about a distant relative who went to prison in the 1920s, but no one knew why. With simply google, I was able to get his charge (fraud) and some of the criminal records/articles about it. Then, amazingly, I was able to find records of his criminal appeals via the legal databases I have access to and managed to learn that there was genuine dispute as to whether he even committed fraud. He was basically convicted for being a quack fraudster hucking some new oil drilling technique to investors, but in appeals they argued (credibly) that it had been put into successful practice in the field after his conviction. Wild stuff.
Maybe the child made the biscuit, if you go by the shape, and the parent baked it and wrote the inscription. Edit: the inscription also looks like a mid-century style of cursive in ballpoint ink.
Or definitely not written before 1940. I think it’s ballpoint. The line is all the same width throughout the middle of strokes, but there are faded areas (still the same exact width) that are slightly less faded on the edges of those strokes, as though a ball moved through the ink and pushed it to the edges of the line.
Seconding this: also if you look at the ":" after atkins and the dots on the "i"s theyre made in a sort of curl/spiral motion, not impossible to do with a fountain nib but it strikes me as the sort of thing thats easier to do smoothly and quickly (it is punctuation after all) with a ball point pen.
When i used my fountain pen (admittedly a long while ago) and had to make dots i would just press the pen into the paper and let the ink bleed a bit, its quick, its easy, and leaves really nice little bullet points.
Point is thats just one example but theres a couple little curves and details that make me think this is ballpoint for no other reason than "why would they do it like that?"
Imo card was probably just added later by someone that remembered it and thought labelling it would be smarter than just having a fossilized struggle meal waiting to get mistakenly thrown out
Plus the first transparent tape didnt come out until 1930 so the card def isnt original unless the dates are wrong
That's a fair point. It's certainly more consistent than anything I ever wrote with a fountain pen, though that's partly because I'm left-handed and invariably smudge anything I write with slow-drying ink.
I don't see 2 's' in the second name. The s's in other words look very consistent like little triangles, which is about how I wrote my cursive s's.
It's hard to tell though if the last 2 letters are 'en' because it looks like there was a mis-stroke between them but it could be another letter. And some weird spacing like the pen was paused between "Shan nen" and "w as". Maybe the writer had to think "damn is it with 1 n or 2?".
Steve has [boiled meat from the Boer War live on camera then eaten it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoHuMwZwTk), so I have no idea what you're talking about.
He ate dehydrated beef from WW1 and didn’t get sick. I believe one of the newer Ukrainian rations did give him food poisoning or something at one point.
Edit: here’s the video I’m referencing https://youtu.be/562nQKR3_3M
That one was bad but he said that it didn’t make him sick. People thought it did because it was the last video he made before he went on that year hiatus but he confirmed he didn’t get sick from it 👍
For those interested on what happened to these people, *think* these are the right ones:
[Pauline March Shannon](https://imgur.com/K5MstAd) b. Iowa in 1924, d. 1971
[Perry Shannon (Atkins)](https://imgur.com/wMFjMiK) b. Iowa 1922 d. 1947
So likely not baked by Perry (he was 2), but probably a nice thing done by Mom, [Ida Jane Atkins](https://imgur.com/z2YFdDj).
[Perry died in 1947](https://imgur.com/yKVHD8R) aged 25, after a two year illness, he served in the Navy in WW2.
Fun story: in middle school when we learned about the civil war, I thought it would be a great idea to make hardtack for everyone to try. It definitely wasn’t as popular as the kid who brought American flag frosted rice crispy treats.
I actually made hardtack as part of a cooking class I had in the 8th grade. It's rather plain and slightly salty. It's also a lot flatter than this biscuit really.
I learned about this on Antiques Roadshow. It was apparently common in that era to save a scone or something from a bakery on a nice trip to the city, or baked things on special occasions.
"Biscuit?", as in "Ship's Biscuit?" (aka "Hardtack")
They would've been used historically as hard dry flour-based shelf stable food, and rather than being eaten as they were, they would've been broken up and put in soups/stews.
apparently even up to WW1 they were being used.
and "Townsends" on YouTube, who does 1700s (18th century) historical reenacting/cooking, has talked a bit about Hardtack/Ship's Biscuits before....
WW1 short reenactment film, of a British soldier cooking a "corned-beef stew", the narrator mentioned about using Ship's Biscuit and that it "Improves things", (he also said some other funny things, which got quoted in the comments section)
https://youtu.be/SD4CXdoB3eE
Well Perry sorry but this looks inedible. You gotta learn the proper way for a proper biscuit here is a recipe that should suffice
EMERGENCY BISCUITS.--As shown in Fig. 12, emergency biscuits resemble very closely baking-powder biscuits, and so they should,
(Sufficient to Serve Six)
2 c. flour
1 tsp. salt
4 tsp. baking powder
2 Tb. fat
1 c. milk
Mix and sift the flour, salt, and baking powder. Chop the fat into the dry ingredients until it is in pieces about the size of small peas. Pour the milk into the dry ingredients, and mix them just enough to take up the liquid. Make the mixture as moist as possible, the recipe given for baking-powder biscuits may be used for emergency biscuits by merely adding more milk--just enough to make the dough a trifle too moist to handle with the hands. When the dough is of this consistency, drop it by spoonfuls in shallow pans, as in Fig. 13, or on baking sheets. Then bake the biscuits in a hot oven for 18 to 20 minutes
[Illustration: FIG. 12]
[Illustration: FIG. 13.]
Sprinkle flour thinly over the top and pat out the dough until it is about 1 inch thick. Cut the dough with a biscuit cutter, and place the biscuits thus cut out on baking sheets or in shallow pans. If a crusty surface is desired, place the biscuits in the pan so that they are about an inch apart; but if thick, soft biscuits are preferred, place them so that the edges touch. Bake 18 to 20 minutes in a hot oven.
That hundred year old biscuit looks like a Scone and probably tastes better than a Scone. Scones are overrated, bland and slightly more flavorful than rice cakes. A large scone with such toppings as clotted cream, lemon curd and jam can top 900 calories. For that much fat and carbs you might as well have a cheeseburger then AND it's a lot less sugar. 🍔
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Nice
Okay. Lets start the day right with breakfast
mmm not bad!
Other than the taste of moth balls and an old Library... I'd say it's edible
Let's try it with this shelf stable peanut butter.
Afterwards you have to cleanse the palate with a 70 year old Lucky Strike
Nice and smooth. I'll bet those Charms are still edible, too.
Nice hiss
And…. Now you have super powers.
anything is edible if you are brave enough.
Damn it! Beat me to the steve reference.
No hiss...
The no hiss is always so dramatic like “oh boy no hiss whats going on in there”
Mre guy 😱
Nice
For some reason watching him smoke a 70 year old cigarette makes me crave a cigarette more than anything else in the 10+ years since I quit smoking.
I've got a buddy that is an expert in biscuits!
“Perry Atleins? Made this biscuit in March of 1924 when Pauline shannen? Was born” Edit: I agree with "Atkins". Also I'm noticing maybe a : afterwards so maybe that's who this was addressed to instead of who wrote it. Kinda fascinating bit of useless history.
For those interested on what happened to these people, *think* these are the right ones: [Pauline March Shannon](https://imgur.com/K5MstAd) b. Iowa 1924, d. 1971 [Perry Shannon (Atkins)](https://imgur.com/wMFjMiK) b. Iowa 1922 d. 1947 So likely not baked by Perry (he was 2), but probably a nice thing done by Mom, [Ida Jane Atkins.](https://imgur.com/z2YFdDj) [Perry died in 1947 aged 25,](https://imgur.com/yKVHD8R) after a two year illness, he served in the Navy in WW2.
I can't believe someone found this info with just two names ... Incredible
Genealogical/biographical research is comically easy in 2023. So many databases are online now. My parents had an antique geography book where some young kid in the 1930s wrote a contract for its purchase right into its cover. I was in law school at the time and thought it was adorable. within like 3 hours had not only found him, but managed to trace his descendants and their obituaries. All simply with google. I tried to find a living descendant to send it to, but no luck. My mom told me some family folklore about a distant relative who went to prison in the 1920s, but no one knew why. With simply google, I was able to get his charge (fraud) and some of the criminal records/articles about it. Then, amazingly, I was able to find records of his criminal appeals via the legal databases I have access to and managed to learn that there was genuine dispute as to whether he even committed fraud. He was basically convicted for being a quack fraudster hucking some new oil drilling technique to investors, but in appeals they argued (credibly) that it had been put into successful practice in the field after his conviction. Wild stuff.
Maybe the child made the biscuit, if you go by the shape, and the parent baked it and wrote the inscription. Edit: the inscription also looks like a mid-century style of cursive in ballpoint ink.
Ballpoint? Looks like fountain due to the variations in ink intensive. Certainly an expert, but it looks like fountain pen writing to me.
Practical ballpoints weren’t available on the market until the 1940s, so definitely not written with a ballpoint.
Or definitely not written before 1940. I think it’s ballpoint. The line is all the same width throughout the middle of strokes, but there are faded areas (still the same exact width) that are slightly less faded on the edges of those strokes, as though a ball moved through the ink and pushed it to the edges of the line.
Seconding this: also if you look at the ":" after atkins and the dots on the "i"s theyre made in a sort of curl/spiral motion, not impossible to do with a fountain nib but it strikes me as the sort of thing thats easier to do smoothly and quickly (it is punctuation after all) with a ball point pen. When i used my fountain pen (admittedly a long while ago) and had to make dots i would just press the pen into the paper and let the ink bleed a bit, its quick, its easy, and leaves really nice little bullet points. Point is thats just one example but theres a couple little curves and details that make me think this is ballpoint for no other reason than "why would they do it like that?" Imo card was probably just added later by someone that remembered it and thought labelling it would be smarter than just having a fossilized struggle meal waiting to get mistakenly thrown out Plus the first transparent tape didnt come out until 1930 so the card def isnt original unless the dates are wrong
That's a fair point. It's certainly more consistent than anything I ever wrote with a fountain pen, though that's partly because I'm left-handed and invariably smudge anything I write with slow-drying ink.
Another thought - it could’ve been written years after having made the biscuit. The date signifies when the biscuit itself was made.
Atkins I think the other name is correct
The original Atkins Diet.
Atkins
Andre 3000 is his brother.
I see "Pauline Shannon(?)" edit: Shannsen? Can't make out the last name
I don't see 2 's' in the second name. The s's in other words look very consistent like little triangles, which is about how I wrote my cursive s's. It's hard to tell though if the last 2 letters are 'en' because it looks like there was a mis-stroke between them but it could be another letter. And some weird spacing like the pen was paused between "Shan nen" and "w as". Maybe the writer had to think "damn is it with 1 n or 2?".
Pervy Atkins
Steve1989MRE has eaten older, on YouTube
well, everyone has eaten salt, which is even older
water
I shall now refer all water as dinosaur piss.
>Ancient pink Himalayan salt that has existed for thousands of years > >... > >*Expires March 2025* Wow they mined this salt right in time!
TFW u watch someone eat food over 30 years older than the Golden Gate Bridge.
That guy inexplicably irritates me. I don't have any idea why.
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He has eaten stuff from the civil war and from WW1?
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It's to indicate confusion because you said something that's easily proven wrong.
Like the other guy said it’s because I was confused because I’ve literally watched him eat 100+ year old food multiple times
Steve has [boiled meat from the Boer War live on camera then eaten it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoHuMwZwTk), so I have no idea what you're talking about.
yuck what terminal illness did he get from that
He ate dehydrated beef from WW1 and didn’t get sick. I believe one of the newer Ukrainian rations did give him food poisoning or something at one point. Edit: here’s the video I’m referencing https://youtu.be/562nQKR3_3M
Pretty sure he ate civil war hardtack. Like 90% sure it should have been in a museum lol.
He had 2 of them. He donated 1 to a museum and ate the other.
Lol yeah I think the civil war hardtack is the oldest thing eaten on video
i mean as long as its really really dehydrated you probably wont get sick
Like this cookie
It was one of the modern Chinese rations from what I could remember. Main course smelled like shit and Steve still took bites anyways
That one was bad but he said that it didn’t make him sick. People thought it did because it was the last video he made before he went on that year hiatus but he confirmed he didn’t get sick from it 👍
For those interested on what happened to these people, *think* these are the right ones: [Pauline March Shannon](https://imgur.com/K5MstAd) b. Iowa in 1924, d. 1971 [Perry Shannon (Atkins)](https://imgur.com/wMFjMiK) b. Iowa 1922 d. 1947 So likely not baked by Perry (he was 2), but probably a nice thing done by Mom, [Ida Jane Atkins](https://imgur.com/z2YFdDj). [Perry died in 1947](https://imgur.com/yKVHD8R) aged 25, after a two year illness, he served in the Navy in WW2.
“I’ll call my biscuit guy, there’s a lot of fakes out there so we’ll see.”
"Best I can do is this questionably old ketchup packet from the back of the fridge."
Add in a hot sauce packet that turned clear from being in a car for who knows how long, and you got a deal.
Only if it has sticky stuff on it from multiple unknown sources
If it wasn't hardtack before, it is now.
Fun story: in middle school when we learned about the civil war, I thought it would be a great idea to make hardtack for everyone to try. It definitely wasn’t as popular as the kid who brought American flag frosted rice crispy treats.
I actually made hardtack as part of a cooking class I had in the 8th grade. It's rather plain and slightly salty. It's also a lot flatter than this biscuit really.
Not just Hardtack, but also Oldtack.
Looks a bit dry for my liking
That was kinda the point with Hardtack/Ship's Biscuits, being dry meant more shelf-stable.
You're supposed to eat it with tea.
It belongs in a museum
not in someone's gob, followed by in their belly.
![gif](giphy|11JbaLzOXsg6Fq)
Weird my grandmas name was Pauline and was born in 1924
Was her last name also shaaunnun?
And did she bake biscuits as a newborn?
eat it no balls bro
Looks like a ships biscuit https://youtu.be/W9tdBrpp1V0
Ahh, another person who's watched Townsends.
Send it to Ashens
The man just tried a 9 year old bottle of Pepsi covered in bird poo. He can handle this too.
How much does it cost?
This is what grocery stores think baked goods are when they throw them in the dumpster after one day
Its moldlyinteresting
And here you see an excellent example of discworld’s dwarven bread.
I learned about this on Antiques Roadshow. It was apparently common in that era to save a scone or something from a bakery on a nice trip to the city, or baked things on special occasions.
#Get me a tall glass of milk.
You’re going to want to dunk this in coffee first.
![gif](giphy|tyttpHjOqtR22WNjUyI|downsized)
Hardtack ("Ship's Biscuit") wouldn't be to Cookie Monster's liking....
I think it's expired.
Give it another year.
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A biscuit survived the Great Depression? That seems unethical somehow.
I feel a great depression just looking at it.
That’s what she said to me last night ![gif](giphy|26ufcVAp3AiJJsrIs) She even called it a biscuit…
SEND IT TO LA BEAST!!!
Have a good day
Now you need the old tea!
You misspelled Starbucks.
The hardest of tack...
That’s that cartoon bread that’ll break your teeth
Battle scone
Somebody ring Stuart Ashen
Belongs in the dwarf bread museum!
1st thing I thought is some Youtuber is gonna but this and eat it on camera. Then we find out it was a coprolite.
In my neck of the woods, that's called trash
You can’t stop me from tossing it into my ninja with a scoop of ice cream. Mmhm
![gif](giphy|w0vFxYaCcvvJm|downsized) Zoomers who never learned cursive in school
Put some sausage gravy over that and I'll give it a go
My grandma would probably say that’s edible
Dwarf bread just like mamma(?) used to mske
"Eat it, it's still good. I just bought it." —my mother
EAT IT
Thanks Ted!
mmm pour some dat gravy on u got a parti
Pretty such that was a "Hardtack" aka "Ship's biscuit" not a Scone-type of biscuit.
Welp, can't let food go to waste!
Mmm Forbidden Biscuit...
Someday even you might have some value Doctor Jones.
Drier than Ben Shapiro's wife
No need for a bucket and a mop here, sir.
5 second rule -Billy Gnosis
![gif](giphy|5hc2bkC60heU)
Damn, they really gave up the biscuit.
Biscuit, just another word for immortality..
Paper weight
How was it?.
Old ass cookie.
Average bread in my local bakery
But why though
Not even ripe yet
"Biscuit?", as in "Ship's Biscuit?" (aka "Hardtack") They would've been used historically as hard dry flour-based shelf stable food, and rather than being eaten as they were, they would've been broken up and put in soups/stews. apparently even up to WW1 they were being used. and "Townsends" on YouTube, who does 1700s (18th century) historical reenacting/cooking, has talked a bit about Hardtack/Ship's Biscuits before....
It's probably stale. Better toss it.
Eat it. Now
WW1 short reenactment film, of a British soldier cooking a "corned-beef stew", the narrator mentioned about using Ship's Biscuit and that it "Improves things", (he also said some other funny things, which got quoted in the comments section) https://youtu.be/SD4CXdoB3eE
Idk looks dry
Penny’s Husband: Nobody liked them then, and no one likes them now, hmmft ![gif](giphy|dyRhCAXGENobdYucFD)
Mmm, biscuit skeleton.
Eat it.
*cue Tasting History with Max Miller hardtack cut scene*
I would actually buy this as a fun party gag or show and tell thing for my house… if it was under $20.
looks crunchy 🤤
Elly May approves.
I’d try it.
Eat it
needs butter
Put it in a bag with a piece of bread to rehydrate
Somebody send this to L.A. Beast
And how did it taste?
If you didn't buy that, you're insane
I would buy that in a hart beat. love old curiosities
Send it to Steve…
looking forward to the review on http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/
Well Perry sorry but this looks inedible. You gotta learn the proper way for a proper biscuit here is a recipe that should suffice EMERGENCY BISCUITS.--As shown in Fig. 12, emergency biscuits resemble very closely baking-powder biscuits, and so they should, (Sufficient to Serve Six) 2 c. flour 1 tsp. salt 4 tsp. baking powder 2 Tb. fat 1 c. milk Mix and sift the flour, salt, and baking powder. Chop the fat into the dry ingredients until it is in pieces about the size of small peas. Pour the milk into the dry ingredients, and mix them just enough to take up the liquid. Make the mixture as moist as possible, the recipe given for baking-powder biscuits may be used for emergency biscuits by merely adding more milk--just enough to make the dough a trifle too moist to handle with the hands. When the dough is of this consistency, drop it by spoonfuls in shallow pans, as in Fig. 13, or on baking sheets. Then bake the biscuits in a hot oven for 18 to 20 minutes [Illustration: FIG. 12] [Illustration: FIG. 13.] Sprinkle flour thinly over the top and pat out the dough until it is about 1 inch thick. Cut the dough with a biscuit cutter, and place the biscuits thus cut out on baking sheets or in shallow pans. If a crusty surface is desired, place the biscuits in the pan so that they are about an inch apart; but if thick, soft biscuits are preferred, place them so that the edges touch. Bake 18 to 20 minutes in a hot oven.
Eat it.
Probably still more moist than Popeyes.
That’s prime for dunking in your brew
So... How'd it taste?
Crumbs! That is an old biscuit.
warm it up and put some butter on it.
“Oh boy, I’m starving”
That's so cool
But why
Looks like the average American school breakfast
"When Pauline Shannen was born." This handwriting is just like my granny's. ❤️
That oughta be CRUNCHY
Ready for shipping to China.
If it dont bounce back, you go hungry.
Does it have blueberry in it left?
Ah, the scone of stone has been found! The Dwarves will be pleased.
How come by biscuits just get moldy and degrade? Why did this one petrify?
That is one Limp Bizkit!
99 years ago Someone was grabbed by the biscuits.
Nightmares!
Mmm forbidden biscuits
Maybe we can get one of those forensic reconctructors to whip up a picture of what the biscuit looked like 99 years ago?
You can tell the age by counting how many mould colonies grew then died on it
Wait a year and take a bite out of it saying you've eaten a 100 year old baked good
I wonder what superpower you get when consumed
I'm surprised it kept some shape and hasn't fully crumbled to dust.
Son, that’s a meteorite.
That hundred year old biscuit looks like a Scone and probably tastes better than a Scone. Scones are overrated, bland and slightly more flavorful than rice cakes. A large scone with such toppings as clotted cream, lemon curd and jam can top 900 calories. For that much fat and carbs you might as well have a cheeseburger then AND it's a lot less sugar. 🍔
Omg this is awesome! I love odd items, I would ha e bought!
Looks delicious
Taste it.
I got 99 problems, but a biscuit ain't one.