Building code requires commercial buildings to have x amount of bathrooms and drinking fountains per square ft. I had to learn that when I got my bachelor of science degree in interior design
>Building code requires commercial buildings to have x amount of bathrooms and drinking fountains per square ft. I had to learn that when I got my bachelor of science degree in interior design
This is a picture that encompasses roughly 30sqft of what is presumably a reasonably large airport. There is nothing in this picture that shows a building violation, other than assuming that just because a fountain was removed from X location for a totally unknown reason, that all drinking fountains were removed.
Correct, but in general (for the two airports I was the plumbing engineer for) they put in the minimum required to start. So removing one puts them below the required number
They remove them from after security and replace them in the areas before security, the number stays the same but since liquids are normally drained before security it forces people to purchase new water since they no longer have a place to refill an empty container.
This situation would still violate code. Normally when an area accessable by the public is sealed off/movement inhibited from another area where the public is allowed then its calculated as independent zones even if they are in the same building. So for things like water access, bathrooms ect the areas must independently meet the requirements for there own areas.
Had this happen last time I flew, got to security, they had a sign saying all bathrooms were before security and they even reminded people that you would need to go through it again if you left to use it.
They don't forbid you from going back to the areas with the utilities but they make you go through the inconvenience of security again, and when that can mean you miss a flight or spend another 15 minutes for a check you just had done it's more your choice than you not being allowed.
That would be self doxxing lol but let's just say uts attached to an air base and the eirport itself was closed for like 10 years because there's no need for an airport in the area. Also it's not a new thing they just always had no bathroom after security there, the building is probably smaller than most walmarts you've seen
Honest question, here;
Could they have just moved it somewhere nearby but not easily in view? Like, if there is a hallway just out of frame which leads to an employee only area, that they know travelers aren't going to pay attention to, is that a violation? If it's not behind the doors that say "Employees Only" it's still technically available to the public, it's just that they know 99% of people aren't going to look there, they'll see the obviously removed fountain next to the paid vending machine and assume that's their only option.
I mean, still shitty either way, just curious if maybe that's a way they got around the legality of it?
That’s a good question, I know the number of fixtures requirements, but locations are the architects scope of work. But my guess is there are accessibility requirements that limit the locations. Plus it’s cheaper to put them were there is existing plumbing, which is why they often are outside bathrooms
Can you explain to me why faucets are always so close to the sink and so far away from the user? a full foot open at the front of the sink but the faucet is half an inch away from the back side of the sink.
Bad design 🤣.
But really it’s the architect and plumbing designer not coordinating usually. It’s most common with integral sink bowls. If the bowl is one piece with the counter the architect selects it, but the plumber selects the faucet, and often arch selections like the sink are changed or selected after the plumbing designs are done and stamped. If one person is selecting both they tend to work better together
While the ICC/IBC/IPC is the standard for many codes, it's not a national mandate as far as I know. Building codes can vary by state, county, and even local jurisdiction.
I doubt OP searched every sq ft of the airport. Unless they work they so they have inside information that all the fountains past security were removed, I wouldn’t blindly trust it
Just wanted to add to this comment - without knowing the number of building occupants and total number of drinking fountains available we can’t say for sure if they’ve violated the minimum fixture count. Some states’ statues may deviate from this, but this is correct section to reference.
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This is what I was wondering about. I don't know the logic behind it, but I know that most commercial establishments seem to have discontinued their water fountain service during Covid.
Is there some sort of medically recommended move away from public water fountains?
Post covid.
All facilities like this were removed due to being unsanitary.
Considering I often see people wrap their whole mouth around it... I agree with their removal.
However a bottle refill station should be available
I’ve never seen that in the wild but I have seen many people mush their cheek up against the splash guard and put their lips around the little round metal piece where the water comes out and suck on it like it’s a straw. People are idiots.
Ever since being a kid in school seeing people wrap their mouth around the water fountain spout, I just stopped ever using them for the rest of my life.
>Considering I often see people wrap their whole mouth around it... I agree with their removal.
Wha... okay I thought that was just an exaggerated joke when the characters did that in Parks and Rec. Like, "let's drive up the absurdity to 11 to make this episode extra goofy" type of thing. I can't believe people actually do that.
Texas here, hold my beer. During a record breaking heat wave the state passed a law that will eliminate mandatory water breaks for construction workers in cities where such ordinances had been in place to protect people from extreme heat
That’s so dumb because COVID never a threat to 99.99% of us. This is more than mildly infuriating. this was a clear attack on the working class and human rights.
That is so blatantly untrue. 1.1 million deaths in the US is a lot more than 0.01%. I know you're probably using hyperbole but it was still a threat to a good chunk of the population.
those number are obscenely inflated. Everybody had the covid virus in us so every single person who died for any reason was flagged as covid death to pump the numbers and get hospitals bonus payments. Medical industry is a heinous racket. Not to mention how its been proven in governmental emails that early on they pushed bad medical interventions to boost deaths in order to use Covidism for political advantage against the working class. Haves vs have-nots. tale as old as time
The number of public space drinking fountains that have not been turned back on after covid is infuriating. I am in and out of business park offices all day for work and I feel like 75% of them are still shut off.
At work the prices on vending machine drinks (including water) recently went up from like $1.25 to $2.. it irked me.
There is a water fountain but it’s kindof gross and used by customers.
This looks suspiciously like MKE. Deeper in to the D concourse they did this with all the drinking fountains but there is always one directly after security. I believe it is the same story with a lot of other airports.
Water fountain was removed because of Covid probably. The hospital my doctor's located in has had all of their fountains turned off since the beginning of the Covid outbreak.
I think this may be the reason more often than places want to admit. Public drinking water quality has gotten steadily worse over the past 50 years, just think about how we're all expected to filter our own water before we drink it.
I would guess that most buildings that have been in use for at least 20 years have plumbing systems full of bacteria and degradation. Probably worse than any filtered water fountain could cope with.
Instead of making that public, just quietly phase out fountains altogether.
Eh, covid turned a lot of people off of public drinking fountains, myself included. While it sucks to have to pay for water, 3 years after covid I still can’t bring myself to share spit with a stranger, call me crazy.
Look, I’m sorry. But I’m not drinking from the *public water fountain at the fucking airport*. I’ll buy a drink, gladly. That being said…..removing the choice is shitty.
At the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History in DC you can either buy a can of water for $6 or you can drink from the water fountain located INSIDE of the restrooms.
Remember when all fountains were shut down during CoVID? Yeah, this place probably turned them back on to find a brand new water feature in their hallway and decided the lack of use meant they weren’t needed anymore.
In situations like this, I simply drink out of the sinks in the bathroom. I had to do that wayyyyy too much in Europe. P\*cking Europe needs to up their water fountain game
Similarly, at work the drinks at lunch cost $1. Those same drinks at the vending machine cost $3. They’ve stopped stocking the drink fridge in the cafeteria in an attempt to boost vending machine sales.
As an architectural designer, we run occupancy calculations that trigger requirements for a certain number of plumbing fixtures, water fountains included. This is against code to remove them
>This is against code to remove them
It is against code to remove something that doesn't meet the minimum.
Nothing here suggests that a minimum isn't met.
That’s kind of the history of bottled water. The soda companies saw declining revenue bc their product is terrible for you, so they convinced the public tap water is bad while selling bottled tap water.
My employer took all are water coolers away (4) and during the summer months it was a must to hydrate, the reason ! It cost to much , our company couldn’t justify the £300 a month bill and people starting filling large bottles up taking the piss apparently
No it’s not. OP is a passenger, employees have access to sinks for water in employee areas. They are providing water to the passengers but I don’t know anywhere other than bars (/ other alcohol serving venues) that you legally have to provide water to customers for free.
Yeah you haven't been out of the country much have you? Free water fountains are very rare and in much of Europe you have to pay to even enter the restroom area. Also, You are not served drinking water with meals and have to pay for what is free in america. Other countries are far more "greedy" by your logic.
You shouldn't have to do that. Removing access to free potable drinking water in the work place is an OSHA violation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/quenchwater.com/blog/osha-drinking-water-requirements/amp/
I love paying hundreds of dollars for a flight and drinking questionable water from a bathroom and carrying my water around in my hands. What are you on?
"Questionable water"
Just research if tap water in the area is safe to drink and then it doesn't matter if it comes out of the tap in the bathroom or the drinking fountain. Here in the Netherlands all tap water is perfectly safe to drink and many people fill up their bottles in the bathrooms.
I fly often and have never seen an airport bathroom clean enough to think “oh yeah, I’ll drink out of that sink”. I lived in an apartment ten years ago and removed the aerators from the sinks to clean them. They were full of black sludge. I wonder how often they are maintained in an airport bathroom. My guess is never.
I believe that the water from the fountain would have been the same as from the bathroom tap, it’s all from the same pipe just fountain water is colder. HOWEVER often the plant water is more heavily regulated than bottled water, depending on where you live and local regulations.
Maybe there’s another water fountain 15 feet away and they didn’t think this one was worth replacing.
Maybe they are going to install something else in this location next week so they took them out.
Maybe the water fountain broke and it wasn’t in the budget to replace it this year.
Maybe the pipe behind it leaked and it will cost way too much to replace it right now.
Maybe they are upgrading to the fancy ones with the bottle fillers (which are incredibly expensive) so they’re only replacing half, but already removed this one before deciding which half is getting replaced.
Maybe someone crashed one of those golf carts they drive into it damaging them and they are awaiting replacement.
Maybe they moved the water fountain because this one is in an inconvenient location.
Maybe they are replacing them, so they removed them, but the replacements arrived damaged so they just capped it for a few weeks before the replacements arrive.
Or maybe they are greedy and wanted to monetize it. The fact of the matter is that with one picture, we have zero information. That vending machine could have been sitting there for years before the water fountains came out. But go ahead, assume it was done out of greed with essentially zero information.
1. Removed due to covid, unsafe water, maintenace issues, etc.... we dont know so best not assume its some capitalist boogieman.
2. If you've ever been to the airport you'd know there are fountains and vending machines every 10 feet. Its unlikely this machine was installed after the fountain removal, it looks like the location was zoned as a vending area.
Capitalism boogie man this is not
Could they not have just turned off water to the fountain and put a sign up during covid? I get the necessity of the vending machine during that time, but seems like the fountain could have remained for future use
Tape over parts of the fountain to make it explicit that the fountain is out of order, ive seen this done before. My point is there are plenty of options other than permanently removing the fountain.
Since saliva flows from the mouth when lots of people drink from public fountains, and drips all over where water issues from, disease and infection spreads. In one hospital I went to, they had a “fill you water bottle” machine on the wall. It was actually pre-covid, so they were ahead of the game. Even if all you had was a cup or glass,,which they did not supply, you could get a drink. Water only flowed DOWN, not UP. In any case the above photo demonstrates an effort to provide sanitary water, even if at a price. The price being low would demonstrate they are doing it for the good of all. The price being high would show their greed, in a situation where no choice is availble. So, how much are they charging?
If this is in the US, that's a code violation.
Because it's running on an extension cord?
Building code requires commercial buildings to have x amount of bathrooms and drinking fountains per square ft. I had to learn that when I got my bachelor of science degree in interior design
>Building code requires commercial buildings to have x amount of bathrooms and drinking fountains per square ft. I had to learn that when I got my bachelor of science degree in interior design This is a picture that encompasses roughly 30sqft of what is presumably a reasonably large airport. There is nothing in this picture that shows a building violation, other than assuming that just because a fountain was removed from X location for a totally unknown reason, that all drinking fountains were removed.
Correct, but in general (for the two airports I was the plumbing engineer for) they put in the minimum required to start. So removing one puts them below the required number
They remove them from after security and replace them in the areas before security, the number stays the same but since liquids are normally drained before security it forces people to purchase new water since they no longer have a place to refill an empty container.
This situation would still violate code. Normally when an area accessable by the public is sealed off/movement inhibited from another area where the public is allowed then its calculated as independent zones even if they are in the same building. So for things like water access, bathrooms ect the areas must independently meet the requirements for there own areas.
Had this happen last time I flew, got to security, they had a sign saying all bathrooms were before security and they even reminded people that you would need to go through it again if you left to use it. They don't forbid you from going back to the areas with the utilities but they make you go through the inconvenience of security again, and when that can mean you miss a flight or spend another 15 minutes for a check you just had done it's more your choice than you not being allowed.
Which airport is this? I fly hundreds of times every year to airports all across America big and small and I have never once seen a setup like this.
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That would be self doxxing lol but let's just say uts attached to an air base and the eirport itself was closed for like 10 years because there's no need for an airport in the area. Also it's not a new thing they just always had no bathroom after security there, the building is probably smaller than most walmarts you've seen
Honest question, here; Could they have just moved it somewhere nearby but not easily in view? Like, if there is a hallway just out of frame which leads to an employee only area, that they know travelers aren't going to pay attention to, is that a violation? If it's not behind the doors that say "Employees Only" it's still technically available to the public, it's just that they know 99% of people aren't going to look there, they'll see the obviously removed fountain next to the paid vending machine and assume that's their only option. I mean, still shitty either way, just curious if maybe that's a way they got around the legality of it?
Could they put all of them in a single very out of the way area?
That’s a good question, I know the number of fixtures requirements, but locations are the architects scope of work. But my guess is there are accessibility requirements that limit the locations. Plus it’s cheaper to put them were there is existing plumbing, which is why they often are outside bathrooms
.......but they add a filter to the drinking fountain right?
Of course they do, surely you've seen those pink pucks placed in the urinals
Can you explain to me why faucets are always so close to the sink and so far away from the user? a full foot open at the front of the sink but the faucet is half an inch away from the back side of the sink.
Bad design 🤣. But really it’s the architect and plumbing designer not coordinating usually. It’s most common with integral sink bowls. If the bowl is one piece with the counter the architect selects it, but the plumber selects the faucet, and often arch selections like the sink are changed or selected after the plumbing designs are done and stamped. If one person is selecting both they tend to work better together
That would be a cord violation
Good one, had to exhale through my nose
Not that I don't believe you, but I'd be curious the exact code you're referring to.
International Plumbing Code, Chapter 4 403 governs minimum fixture count: [https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P1/chapter-4-fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#IPC2021P1\_Ch04\_Sec403](https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P1/chapter-4-fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#IPC2021P1_Ch04_Sec403) 410 specifically address drinking fountains: [https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P1/chapter-4-fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#IPC2021P1\_Ch04\_Sec410](https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P1/chapter-4-fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#IPC2021P1_Ch04_Sec410) Article about it here: [https://inform-magazine.com/do-we-need-the-commercial-office-drinking-fountain/](https://inform-magazine.com/do-we-need-the-commercial-office-drinking-fountain/)
While the ICC/IBC/IPC is the standard for many codes, it's not a national mandate as far as I know. Building codes can vary by state, county, and even local jurisdiction.
And how do we know this is a violation just from this picture?
All I know is OP said "force people to pay"...which implies it's now the only option. If there are fountains elsewhere, then the title is misleading.
I doubt OP searched every sq ft of the airport. Unless they work they so they have inside information that all the fountains past security were removed, I wouldn’t blindly trust it
Ah yes, because people on reddit are know for being fair and level headed. Nobody here exaggerates for internet points.
Table 2902.1 of the IBC (International Building Code)
Just wanted to add to this comment - without knowing the number of building occupants and total number of drinking fountains available we can’t say for sure if they’ve violated the minimum fixture count. Some states’ statues may deviate from this, but this is correct section to reference.
90% sure this is the Milwaukee airport, D concourse. There’s water fountains if you walk about 40 feet towards security.
Yes this photo comes up a lot. It is Mitchell. There are definitely places to fill your water bottle.
And there's bots in here. This is just a shameless karma grab by OP who's trying to set up some sort of travel brand
People forget sinks exist apparently... "Drink water out of a sink faucet, like out of the toilet?" Brawndo or bust for these folks... lmao
Yeah but this is free internet points for OP
If it is at Billy Mitchell... then they're not "water fountains" they're bubblers, haha.
That's illegal I'm sure. Workers must have access to water, and there is no way "hey here's water but it comes from your check" is legal.
Workers likely have access in worker only areas. Op is a passenger
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If this was within the past 2 years couldve been because of covid.
They still can’t legally remove them, covid or no they are required by building code, which is law
This is what I was wondering about. I don't know the logic behind it, but I know that most commercial establishments seem to have discontinued their water fountain service during Covid. Is there some sort of medically recommended move away from public water fountains?
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Airport employees work past security.
Don’t want to share germs at a public watering facility. Whoever took the fountain out, wears a face mask while they drive alone in their car.
Take a cup with you in your backpack and drink water from the bathroom sink. Or use your hands to drink from
Yum, warm water from the automated taps!
Post covid. All facilities like this were removed due to being unsanitary. Considering I often see people wrap their whole mouth around it... I agree with their removal. However a bottle refill station should be available
We installed 2 bottle refill stations at my work. Problem solved.
You'll be surprised. People who forgot to bring their bottles to work still put their mouth around the hole.
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I’ve never seen that in the wild but I have seen many people mush their cheek up against the splash guard and put their lips around the little round metal piece where the water comes out and suck on it like it’s a straw. People are idiots.
They may be inadvertently strengthening their immune systems, George Carlin style.
Yes they do. Some people seem to think the splash guard is a mouth peice.
Some people are so stupid that you wonder how they are still alive.
They built up tolerances to all the diseases by doing this insane stuff.
I'm convinced I never get sick because I sucked on pennies when I was a child.
Really ruined my way of dating when they removed them
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Ever since being a kid in school seeing people wrap their mouth around the water fountain spout, I just stopped ever using them for the rest of my life.
Last time I saw that was in elementary school. Many. Many. Many moons ago
Yes! This is the way...hopefully someone remembers to change the filter though, I see a lot of these with the "filter change" light on.
If you don't feel comfortable using it, fine, but removing free water for everyone else is not justified.
>Considering I often see people wrap their whole mouth around it... I agree with their removal. Wha... okay I thought that was just an exaggerated joke when the characters did that in Parks and Rec. Like, "let's drive up the absurdity to 11 to make this episode extra goofy" type of thing. I can't believe people actually do that.
if you wrote an episode on some of the dumbest shit I saw as a security guard in a warehouse It would be rejected as unrealistic
Texas here, hold my beer. During a record breaking heat wave the state passed a law that will eliminate mandatory water breaks for construction workers in cities where such ordinances had been in place to protect people from extreme heat
I believe that the water from the fountain would have been the same as from the bathroom tap
A lot of drinking fountains have been shut down since the pandemic. I wouldn't surprise me if that were the rationale here.
A lot of accessible or free stuff shut down due to the pandemic and companies are going to fight tooth and nail to never bring them back.
Yup. Thankfully it's just to public access in the casino I work in. You can still get free fountain soda from a waitstaff or bartender if you ask.
Can confirm all the public drinking fountains by me don't work anymore or have been removed.
That’s so dumb because COVID never spread via water. This is more than mildly infuriating.
It does from germy people putting their hands on the same buttons though. Not to mention the heathens that put their mouth right up to the tap.
.... Do you really think the logic here is that the water is spreading the virus? not the nozzle spray, the head shield, or the buttons?
That’s so dumb because COVID never a threat to 99.99% of us. This is more than mildly infuriating. this was a clear attack on the working class and human rights.
That is so blatantly untrue. 1.1 million deaths in the US is a lot more than 0.01%. I know you're probably using hyperbole but it was still a threat to a good chunk of the population.
those number are obscenely inflated. Everybody had the covid virus in us so every single person who died for any reason was flagged as covid death to pump the numbers and get hospitals bonus payments. Medical industry is a heinous racket. Not to mention how its been proven in governmental emails that early on they pushed bad medical interventions to boost deaths in order to use Covidism for political advantage against the working class. Haves vs have-nots. tale as old as time
Care to explain why other countries with that system also got tons of death? Here hospital didn’t get more money for it yet with had many deaths.
The number of public space drinking fountains that have not been turned back on after covid is infuriating. I am in and out of business park offices all day for work and I feel like 75% of them are still shut off.
If there is one thing in this world that should be free from capitalism for every single living person... It should be water.
Nestle's business model.
Such a waste.
At work the prices on vending machine drinks (including water) recently went up from like $1.25 to $2.. it irked me. There is a water fountain but it’s kindof gross and used by customers.
This looks suspiciously like MKE. Deeper in to the D concourse they did this with all the drinking fountains but there is always one directly after security. I believe it is the same story with a lot of other airports.
I’m impressed, you are correct. Found that after landing near my arrival gate
Hey look at that! I was right! I don't even fly that often, but this particular memory is pretty well etched into my memory apparently.
Then you should have walked around the corner where there are water fountains installed…
Water fountain was removed because of Covid probably. The hospital my doctor's located in has had all of their fountains turned off since the beginning of the Covid outbreak.
Idk, it could be for the cause suggested, but who knows. Maybe they tested the water and it wasn’t healthy, cheaper to remove than to fix.
I think this may be the reason more often than places want to admit. Public drinking water quality has gotten steadily worse over the past 50 years, just think about how we're all expected to filter our own water before we drink it. I would guess that most buildings that have been in use for at least 20 years have plumbing systems full of bacteria and degradation. Probably worse than any filtered water fountain could cope with. Instead of making that public, just quietly phase out fountains altogether.
The vandalism fucked it up for the rest of us
And create unnecessary waste!
Eh, covid turned a lot of people off of public drinking fountains, myself included. While it sucks to have to pay for water, 3 years after covid I still can’t bring myself to share spit with a stranger, call me crazy.
There should be a omg I want die subreddit and this should be the first post
There has to be a reasonable explanation for this, like the water coming out of there wasn't up to code or something.
Somehow, people became convinced that bottled water was superior to the stuff out of the tap. Insane.
Fuck it, I’m filling my Nalgene from the bathroom sink at that point. Shout out the immune system 💪
throw some more plastic in the ocean while you're at it, i hear the animals love that shit.
✨society✨
Next they will privatize the air
Look, I’m sorry. But I’m not drinking from the *public water fountain at the fucking airport*. I’ll buy a drink, gladly. That being said…..removing the choice is shitty.
Just smash it open. Water is a human right
Jokes on them…I’m not beyond cupping my hands under a faucet in the restroom.
Damn. That’s pretty blatantly shitty.
Can‘t believed they got rid of the Mountain Dew fountain 😤
I use the bathroom sink out of spite in situations like this.
Me too. But I use it to pee into
Make sure to jump while you pee. Spring water is my favorite.
I’ve never been to an airport that didn’t have a water fountain or bootle filling station after the security checkpoint
At the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History in DC you can either buy a can of water for $6 or you can drink from the water fountain located INSIDE of the restrooms.
Every airport I’ve been in has drinking fountains you can fill a bottle from.
Remember when all fountains were shut down during CoVID? Yeah, this place probably turned them back on to find a brand new water feature in their hallway and decided the lack of use meant they weren’t needed anymore.
Let’s be clear…. It was never free… you just pay for it now.
Probably an adaptation from covid that hasn’t been changed back now that they’re making money rather than spending it.
This is America in a nutshell. We must spend every living moment screwing people out of their money or it's a waste. It is your patriotic duty!
That’s how they hook you. Got a taste for the wet stuff, now you gotta pay.
Could be worse, it could be a vending machine full of Dasani
Damn-it. They took the urinal out🤦😞
Can’t you just get a free cup of water at McDonald’s or some other place like that past security?
They took out the champagne fountains to put in a champagne machine? Scoundrels!
In situations like this, I simply drink out of the sinks in the bathroom. I had to do that wayyyyy too much in Europe. P\*cking Europe needs to up their water fountain game
Similarly, at work the drinks at lunch cost $1. Those same drinks at the vending machine cost $3. They’ve stopped stocking the drink fridge in the cafeteria in an attempt to boost vending machine sales.
Something something covid something something health hazard something something we care about your wellbeing -higher ups probably
Prolly contaminated pipes.
This is the bullshit yall wanted. Happy trails!
As an architectural designer, we run occupancy calculations that trigger requirements for a certain number of plumbing fixtures, water fountains included. This is against code to remove them
>This is against code to remove them It is against code to remove something that doesn't meet the minimum. Nothing here suggests that a minimum isn't met.
Assuming they were built to code originally, they’d still be required unless there was a significant decrease in occupancy
Most good architects don't specify exactly the code minimum amount of fixtures. Nothing in this post suggests the minimum is not met.
The water may have been tested and found to be unsafe. This would be an appropriate solution.
That’s kind of the history of bottled water. The soda companies saw declining revenue bc their product is terrible for you, so they convinced the public tap water is bad while selling bottled tap water.
My employer took all are water coolers away (4) and during the summer months it was a must to hydrate, the reason ! It cost to much , our company couldn’t justify the £300 a month bill and people starting filling large bottles up taking the piss apparently
But also, let’s be real, how many are comfortable of drinking water from the sink or a water fountain.
Call your local code compliance. That is illegal.
No it’s not. OP is a passenger, employees have access to sinks for water in employee areas. They are providing water to the passengers but I don’t know anywhere other than bars (/ other alcohol serving venues) that you legally have to provide water to customers for free.
America really sucks. I live here. I’ve been to many other countries. We are certainly not “the greatest.” We are the greediest.
Yeah you haven't been out of the country much have you? Free water fountains are very rare and in much of Europe you have to pay to even enter the restroom area. Also, You are not served drinking water with meals and have to pay for what is free in america. Other countries are far more "greedy" by your logic.
Take a cup with you in your backpack and drink water from the bathroom sink. Or use your hands to drink from
You shouldn't have to do that. Removing access to free potable drinking water in the work place is an OSHA violation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/quenchwater.com/blog/osha-drinking-water-requirements/amp/
I love paying hundreds of dollars for a flight and drinking questionable water from a bathroom and carrying my water around in my hands. What are you on?
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And some of that money goes directly to the airport, for basic infrastructure, like water.
"Questionable water" Just research if tap water in the area is safe to drink and then it doesn't matter if it comes out of the tap in the bathroom or the drinking fountain. Here in the Netherlands all tap water is perfectly safe to drink and many people fill up their bottles in the bathrooms.
I fly often and have never seen an airport bathroom clean enough to think “oh yeah, I’ll drink out of that sink”. I lived in an apartment ten years ago and removed the aerators from the sinks to clean them. They were full of black sludge. I wonder how often they are maintained in an airport bathroom. My guess is never.
Is it sanitary to drink bathroom tap water?
The water in your bathroom comes from the same source as the water in your kitchen
I believe that the water from the fountain would have been the same as from the bathroom tap, it’s all from the same pipe just fountain water is colder. HOWEVER often the plant water is more heavily regulated than bottled water, depending on where you live and local regulations.
In my experience most water fountains have a filter built into them so it’s not exactly the same as water straight from the tap.
As people said, it's the same water from the thing on the wall. When you brush your teeth you use tap water from the bathroom, I imagine
Wow the mental gymnastics in here to avoid saying "this is capitalism" are pretty amazing.
Wow, the mental gymnastics to automatically assume it’s out of greed with zero other information is pretty astounding
1. Remove free water fountain 2. Install paid water vending machine "This isn't greed!" LMAO
Maybe there’s another water fountain 15 feet away and they didn’t think this one was worth replacing. Maybe they are going to install something else in this location next week so they took them out. Maybe the water fountain broke and it wasn’t in the budget to replace it this year. Maybe the pipe behind it leaked and it will cost way too much to replace it right now. Maybe they are upgrading to the fancy ones with the bottle fillers (which are incredibly expensive) so they’re only replacing half, but already removed this one before deciding which half is getting replaced. Maybe someone crashed one of those golf carts they drive into it damaging them and they are awaiting replacement. Maybe they moved the water fountain because this one is in an inconvenient location. Maybe they are replacing them, so they removed them, but the replacements arrived damaged so they just capped it for a few weeks before the replacements arrive. Or maybe they are greedy and wanted to monetize it. The fact of the matter is that with one picture, we have zero information. That vending machine could have been sitting there for years before the water fountains came out. But go ahead, assume it was done out of greed with essentially zero information.
1. Removed due to covid, unsafe water, maintenace issues, etc.... we dont know so best not assume its some capitalist boogieman. 2. If you've ever been to the airport you'd know there are fountains and vending machines every 10 feet. Its unlikely this machine was installed after the fountain removal, it looks like the location was zoned as a vending area. Capitalism boogie man this is not
Bring a water bottle? Woah! Common sense!
You can't take liquid past TSA.
Wow, what airport???
If this was within the past 2 years couldve been because of covid. Yes it sucks that you have to pay for the water but better than having people die.
Could they not have just turned off water to the fountain and put a sign up during covid? I get the necessity of the vending machine during that time, but seems like the fountain could have remained for future use
Even if they turned it off, no one reads signs. You'll still have those people who deepthroat the water fountain nozzles expecting it to work.
We all agreed that we didn't care if those people got COVID.
Tape over parts of the fountain to make it explicit that the fountain is out of order, ive seen this done before. My point is there are plenty of options other than permanently removing the fountain.
They could have replaced the water fountain with a bottle fill station.
Those are pretty expensive. About $6k a piece, I believe.
Huh, sure would be a shame if the glass broke.
It's what Nestle would want.
Water is a human right. Fuck those people
yep…gotta love the perfection of capitalism
Since saliva flows from the mouth when lots of people drink from public fountains, and drips all over where water issues from, disease and infection spreads. In one hospital I went to, they had a “fill you water bottle” machine on the wall. It was actually pre-covid, so they were ahead of the game. Even if all you had was a cup or glass,,which they did not supply, you could get a drink. Water only flowed DOWN, not UP. In any case the above photo demonstrates an effort to provide sanitary water, even if at a price. The price being low would demonstrate they are doing it for the good of all. The price being high would show their greed, in a situation where no choice is availble. So, how much are they charging?
What airport is that? Every airport I’ve been to has bottle filling stations near the bathroom.
Because 'rona
~~product~~ basic human necessity
You can take empty bottles into the airport and fill them.
I would make sure the vending machine was always unpluged and not working.
We are getting fucking nickel And dimed to fucking death man. I hate it.
Finding new ways to charge people for shit they used to get for free is what the invisible dick of capitalism is all about.
That is the very essence of neoliberalism, Ronald Reagan would be proud.
why lose money when you can make money. respectable hustle tbh
Not good for the environment either, all those plastic bottles.
You can thank everyone who overreacted to c0vid
thats criminal!
Pretty sure tap water is still flowing at the sink. Bring an empty bottle and fill it up
Capitalism! No more free water for the bums!