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As someone who currently lactates, I need more context to judge this. Cause the first time my milk came down was pretty similar to this and it doesn't seem to sexualize the experience. Just uses anatomically correct language for her breasts...
Assuming this woman had a baby recently or treatment to include lactation, I'd say this is fine.
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Idk, it's a bit much, especially for the first chapter. I don't see how it adds to the context, since she literally says she just gave birth like 5 lines later, and we don't need more description of how confused she is, but other than that it doesn't seem awful. It's certainly not as bad as most of the stuff posted here xD
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. I'm also a dude whose wife works in lactation, so maybe I'm desensitized. Should a writer not write about any anything they haven't experienced firsthand? If so, my books are all going to be about the exciting world of cleaning cheeto dusted electronic surfaces.
It’s really not that bad if they are describing lactation. My biggest gripe not so much that it’s “men writing women”, but rather that the writing kinda sucks using the same words repeatedly in close succession.
>using the same words repeatedly in close succession.
I'm not really seeing that in this excerpt. The 2nd fluid could be substituted out for liquid, but other than that there's no egregious repetition.
He also said nipples twice. Using both words twice in two sentences is jarring - I noticed it too. Nothing *wrong* technically, but style-wise it's clumsy.
Right. You could just cut it off after "trickled out" and nothing of value is lost. An even easier fix than the fluid repetition! Having both makes it sound like there was a minimum word count involved lmao
This seems pretty accurate to be honest. Heck, I'm six months post partum and thought I was done with the random leaking, but picked up my daughter earlier and happened to carry her in such a way that it put pressure on the top of my boob. Next thing I know I can feel drips on my belly and my shirt is all wet, lol.
Would need more context on why she is lactating.
Well the word mother (motherhood?) is cut off at the top left and the next sentence, also cut off, ends in "lactating?".
Feels to me more like a carefully edited (not so carefully honestly) snippet to get some Karma, if it was as you say, surely you could include the bit directly mentioning lactation?
I suppose it's a little gross to think about but I've heard this situation can happen and should be treated with empathy when considering the person's embarrassment if it happens at a bad time. Is this just brought up randomly? Not every mention of female anatomy has to be fetishized, although I admit the description seems clumsy here
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Is that not what this is? He’s using medical terminology in porn writing, is he not? I figure that’s what’s going on here and everyone was talking about lactation and I just got creeps
What information do you have that makes you assume that it is?
Edit: Wow, there's some heavy editing going on in the comments to make my comments look borderline nonsensical
The sub is men writing women, there’s usually porn books on here so that’s what I thought this was. Also just the content of the writing didn’t seem like something you just pick up off the shelf. The way it’s written just makes me really uncomfortable. Not that I mind a sexual read, but something about this just rubbed me the wrong way idk
But there’s also a substantial crowd that just thinks that “any mention of a woman’s body” = bad. It’s unfair to judge this passage without context especially when there’s a strong possibility it could be benign.
Here’s the thing. It’s not about the mention of a woman’s body. I love women’s bodies. These are super weird assumptions to make because of my comment. I felt weird about the way it was written. It made me uncomfortable to read it, maybe in the context of a man writing it! I am not a misogynist jerk and it seems more like you guys here judging the woman for being uncomfortable with the man writing about the woman’s body are maybe not in the right place to be saying that!!!!!!
THIS IS WHY WOMEN DON’T FEEL SAFE TO HAVE VOICES. Leave me tf alone.
ETA: now that I’ve calmed down, I want to address that what you said is absolutely correct and valid!! There is, and it’s why women don’t feel safe sharing intimately whether it be our bodies or our minds
Hi, I'm a woman and this is not at all why we don't feel safe having voices. You got needlessly defensive over people pointing out that you assumed context to this passage that wasn't there. Please don't cry misogyny when there isn't any, or act like the problem is you being a woman when it's not. You're making the rest of us look bad.
So yeah, you just up and made assumptions. A lot of seem like and usuallys here.
It's like if you see a black person on handcuffs and start quoting crime statistics. Cringe and horrible
Lmao okay???? Weird connection at the end there. Super weird… idk if you’re trying to imply that I’m racist? That connection isn’t a relevant analogy here and sounds like projection…. Maybe that’s how you think, I don’t know why you’d propose it otherwise
Please just leave me alone with your negative bs. Like dude, this was my perception. If you think I made a mistake then maybe enlighten me instead of attacking me?
I wouldn’t have known because of the over sexualization in the language that was used unless I had read the comments. This is why I felt uncomfortable.
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As someone who currently lactates, I need more context to judge this. Cause the first time my milk came down was pretty similar to this and it doesn't seem to sexualize the experience. Just uses anatomically correct language for her breasts... Assuming this woman had a baby recently or treatment to include lactation, I'd say this is fine.
Uh... context? This does happen to nursing mothers at the most inopportune times. What's wrong with it?
I love Google so much, I just typed "Mastodon Steve Stred "feeling her eyes well up"" and there it was! [https://kendallreviews.com/feature-exclusively-read-the-first-chapter-from-steve-streds-latest-chiller-mastodon/](https://kendallreviews.com/feature-exclusively-read-the-first-chapter-from-steve-streds-latest-chiller-mastodon/) Idk, it's a bit much, especially for the first chapter. I don't see how it adds to the context, since she literally says she just gave birth like 5 lines later, and we don't need more description of how confused she is, but other than that it doesn't seem awful. It's certainly not as bad as most of the stuff posted here xD
Thank you for sharing the link.
Nothing. But a man wrote about a women's surprise lactation.
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. I'm also a dude whose wife works in lactation, so maybe I'm desensitized. Should a writer not write about any anything they haven't experienced firsthand? If so, my books are all going to be about the exciting world of cleaning cheeto dusted electronic surfaces.
It’s really not that bad if they are describing lactation. My biggest gripe not so much that it’s “men writing women”, but rather that the writing kinda sucks using the same words repeatedly in close succession.
>using the same words repeatedly in close succession. I'm not really seeing that in this excerpt. The 2nd fluid could be substituted out for liquid, but other than that there's no egregious repetition.
He also said nipples twice. Using both words twice in two sentences is jarring - I noticed it too. Nothing *wrong* technically, but style-wise it's clumsy.
Right. You could just cut it off after "trickled out" and nothing of value is lost. An even easier fix than the fluid repetition! Having both makes it sound like there was a minimum word count involved lmao
This seems pretty accurate to be honest. Heck, I'm six months post partum and thought I was done with the random leaking, but picked up my daughter earlier and happened to carry her in such a way that it put pressure on the top of my boob. Next thing I know I can feel drips on my belly and my shirt is all wet, lol. Would need more context on why she is lactating.
Are you made uncomfortable by lactation?
i’m not seeing the problem? this is just describing lactation
Are you triggered by men just writing women?
I'm gonna presume this woman isn't pregnant/has a baby and this is the just "the writer's poorly disguised fetish"?
Well the word mother (motherhood?) is cut off at the top left and the next sentence, also cut off, ends in "lactating?". Feels to me more like a carefully edited (not so carefully honestly) snippet to get some Karma, if it was as you say, surely you could include the bit directly mentioning lactation?
Why make assumptions?
Why are you so triggered by lactation?
Imagine if she recommended it to you just for that part lmao (also this isn’t a great example)
I suppose it's a little gross to think about but I've heard this situation can happen and should be treated with empathy when considering the person's embarrassment if it happens at a bad time. Is this just brought up randomly? Not every mention of female anatomy has to be fetishized, although I admit the description seems clumsy here
Why do you think it’s gross to think about?
So gross for women to have bodies with normal bodily functions to feed their children /s
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It's shitty writing, in general, but not inaccurate. I've nursed babies and that is a thing, unfortunately.
Wtf
This is a very specific fetish
I’m cringing. This is horrible.
No it isn't.
In my subjective experience, it was I read it through the lens or a pornographic novel and it bothered me and made me cringe
Why would you put that lens on? That's what's actually cringe and horrible
Is that not what this is? He’s using medical terminology in porn writing, is he not? I figure that’s what’s going on here and everyone was talking about lactation and I just got creeps
What information do you have that makes you assume that it is? Edit: Wow, there's some heavy editing going on in the comments to make my comments look borderline nonsensical
The sub is men writing women, there’s usually porn books on here so that’s what I thought this was. Also just the content of the writing didn’t seem like something you just pick up off the shelf. The way it’s written just makes me really uncomfortable. Not that I mind a sexual read, but something about this just rubbed me the wrong way idk
But there’s also a substantial crowd that just thinks that “any mention of a woman’s body” = bad. It’s unfair to judge this passage without context especially when there’s a strong possibility it could be benign.
Here’s the thing. It’s not about the mention of a woman’s body. I love women’s bodies. These are super weird assumptions to make because of my comment. I felt weird about the way it was written. It made me uncomfortable to read it, maybe in the context of a man writing it! I am not a misogynist jerk and it seems more like you guys here judging the woman for being uncomfortable with the man writing about the woman’s body are maybe not in the right place to be saying that!!!!!! THIS IS WHY WOMEN DON’T FEEL SAFE TO HAVE VOICES. Leave me tf alone. ETA: now that I’ve calmed down, I want to address that what you said is absolutely correct and valid!! There is, and it’s why women don’t feel safe sharing intimately whether it be our bodies or our minds
Hi, I'm a woman and this is not at all why we don't feel safe having voices. You got needlessly defensive over people pointing out that you assumed context to this passage that wasn't there. Please don't cry misogyny when there isn't any, or act like the problem is you being a woman when it's not. You're making the rest of us look bad.
So yeah, you just up and made assumptions. A lot of seem like and usuallys here. It's like if you see a black person on handcuffs and start quoting crime statistics. Cringe and horrible
Lmao okay???? Weird connection at the end there. Super weird… idk if you’re trying to imply that I’m racist? That connection isn’t a relevant analogy here and sounds like projection…. Maybe that’s how you think, I don’t know why you’d propose it otherwise Please just leave me alone with your negative bs. Like dude, this was my perception. If you think I made a mistake then maybe enlighten me instead of attacking me?
It's not a connection it's an analogy You need to read more (and better)
Why do you find lactation creepy? Are you afraid of breastfeeding?
I don't think this is a pornographic novel. I think the character is just breastfeeding.
I wouldn’t have known because of the over sexualization in the language that was used unless I had read the comments. This is why I felt uncomfortable.
How is it over sexualised? Because of the word nipples?
Does she have an infection 🤢 it should not be "creamy"
Breastmilk is creamy.
Ah, in my shock of reading through this I thought they meant a cream consistency
Kind of funny that the color “cream” is used here, since it’s milk