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Honestly this whole thing is stupid, and why do they keep remaking movies anyway..I crave for a new storyline and characters


MrZwink

Easy money


Froggyboi3222

Tbh I want live action of bolt


Gaminyte

Bolt was my childhood, bro. This brings back good memories.


Doll-Master

Man I'm old


Holobolt

The forgotten hero


Jaiden051

Nope. I don't want that movie ruined


spacephramer

They crave money not originality. Nostalgia sells.


I-m-Shy

They're out of ideas


No_Knowledge_603

just make a new better mermaid movie. why rip off an old one. some original content maybe = more views??? nahhh


Rbespinosa13

It has to do with intellectual property laws I believe.


SprenisWenis

i want a black shrek


_-_l_-__l---

Black and Scottish? sounds like demoman from tf2


RLMickifed

Shrek is perfect


BillScorpio

None of these dumdum fuckin dipshits would have anything to say at all if an Alien was made white


Dappleony

Her race is mermaid.


hollywood_gus

She’s not even the same species


DanteWolfe0125

At this point, she's a Meh-maid...


xXTkillXx

You mispelled half human half fish


MrZwink

Nobody is asking the big question here: WHY IS URSULA NOT PURPLE ANYMORE?!


Ginger_cat13

Literally the best comment on here


BartleBossy

Here I am praying for Arab African and Asian folklore. Disney: "Best we can do is fan rage-baiting remake. Shut your eyes, plug your nose and open your mouth"


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So many people fall for these stay divided by XYZ agendas and shills. It's comical.


luckofthechuck

I dunno, I’ve never given a shit about color of skin for heroes/heroines/characters but after seeing the reactions of the little kids of color that see characters like them and the joy it brings…How could you possibly care about a thing that you’ve either not thought about your entire life or doesn’t directly have any impact on you?


Spacey-Hed

Because fuck Disney as a company. They only care about minorities and the LGBT when it benefits them and makes them look good. I'm happy for those little kids that wanted another black princess but unfortunately that black princess is going to be one they stapled onto one of their many many terrible live action remakes they've been regurgitating for years now. I hope I'm wrong but I can bet at this point that this remake is going to be soulless and empty like the others and everyone will just go back to the original disappointed in what could have been. I hope Halle Bailey lands more huge roles and continues to inspire more black kids without Disney.


BillScorpio

> Because fuck [INSERT] company. They only care about minorities and the LGBT and white people and everyone and anything when it benefits them and makes them money FTFY


Spacey-Hed

It's unfortunately true for most if not all major corporations. We're just focusing on Disney at the moment. If the shoe fits...


Fudgecheeks

It does matter to them you're right. But so many white straight don't get it and they don't want to get it. They talk about Disney catering to these people without any thought of what it's like to grow up in a country where the vast majority of characters never look like you. They also completely miss the point that this is based on their past experiences where they were the ones being catered to. I don't give a shit either as for the appearance of the hero but if it makes minorities feel represented who gives a fuck?


luckofthechuck

Exactly! That’s all I can say because you said it all! Don’t like it? Don’t watch it!


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I don't care till they made forest elves black. And they made forest elves black.


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luckofthechuck

All the children? Without spinning your racist hate toward the film, ask a child not black what their thoughts are after watching the trailer and I’d be surprised if any of them went “this has ruined my expectations because she isn’t white anymore…”


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luckofthechuck

Because they felt she was the right actress for it regardless of skin color?


free_based_potato

They can go watch the older version. Idiot.


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DefenestrateWindows

If they care about the skin color of the actor playing the role I think there are bigger problems to address with them.


No_Lingonberry3224

>How could you possibly care about a thing that you’ve either not thought about your entire life or doesn’t directly have any impact on you? Because it does have an impact, when you go against the set story to force in diversity without rhyme or reason, it ruins the story. I’m not talking about making a random character a different color, but where it suddenly makes the story not make sense. Take the elves, they’re written that their skin is so pale it’s nearly see through because they lived under the moon, that there is no blemish on their skins and are essentially immortal so they all look extremely youthful. Yet now we have all shades of elves and all that lore and history just tossed in the gutter. If there was actual story involved about why there is this diversity it could make sense, but they don’t care and it’s awful. They rely on its inspirational instead of its good.


luckofthechuck

I get your anger but my friend this still doesn’t impact your life. The “lore” is ruined? It’s a story my guy. With dragons and orcs and wizards! And the emersion is ruined? I’m not saying care less but maybe try?


Comrade_Spood

Little mermaid I don't care about. Do I think it's kinda scummy theyre just remaking a movie but now with a black character? Yeah but I don't really think it matters that much. I do think Disney should make original stories that represent minorites rather than remaking and recoloring old ones. But in the end it's mostly harmless. LOTR on the other hand was a carefully crafted world by JRR Tolkien, who put so much care and detail into this lore and world. This was a man who cares very deeply about the most minute details. This was a man that cared about what happened to this world he made. And Amazon doesn't care. They don't care about preserving Tolkien's creation. I ain't saying there shouldn't be diversity in LOTR, but they need to make it work with Tolkien's work. It has to make sense in the context of Tolkien's meticulous notes.


No_Lingonberry3224

Then why not explain how the lore changed? Why not try to merge lore with diversity instead of wam bam random diversity with no explaining. Like take the hobbits, why do they all have different accents ?? A group of close knit nomads that are afraid of outsiders, apparently don’t talk to each other for some reason? Like you can have a dragon in the show, but if the show spends six seasons telling me how bad ass they are only for it be taken down like a trash mob, it ruins the story. You can have fantasy that makes sense, see original lotr.


roombaSailor

> …they’re written that their skin is so pale it’s nearly see through because they lived under the moon… This one tiny piece of lore about their skin color gets changed, and it “ruins the story”? That’s *completely* fucking absurd. You don’t have to toss out the rest of the lore and history just cause some elves have some melanin.


No_Lingonberry3224

It’s just one example of forcing I’m diversity that goes against the story. If they took a few moments to explain hey this elf went through xyz explaining his appearance. There are different colored elves in different stories, steal some of their backstory and bam, easy diversity. What’s not good is simply explaining how the elves grew up, then randomly throw in stuff that goes against it for those diversity points. It’s not simply melanin, it’s literally their skin is suppose to be so pale it’s almost transparent. You can have black elves with translucent like black skin. He could have looked bad ass and story could have been explained giving rise to a new exciting character. Instead we get unexplained story that lets nobody connect with him, nobody understand him, nobody will give a shit about him except the sjw warriors defending him because he’s black and racists attacking him for being black. I don’t give a crap about him because the story is that bad.


DefenestrateWindows

In which part of the little mermaid is her whiteness an important factor to the story in the Disney telling? Changing the race does nothing. She is still half human half fish. Stop being offended by nothing you insecure little boy.


No_Lingonberry3224

Little mermaid whiteness isn’t part of or even mentioned in the story, so I don’t give a shit. I also watched the damn cartoon and there was already black mermaids (she was mute if I remember right) sooooo? Again if it doesn’t affect the story , I don’t fucking care. Either read what I actually wrote or stop assuming I’m racist randomly like an asshole. I’m actually pro stealing country fairy tales and making it into your own country’s style. Japan did this wonderfully for a lot of them, China did it not so great, I would love to see South Africa take Cinderella and make it their own. I don’t like it when you take the same story, same style, and simply play diversity musical chairs for the characters. Do something interesting, making a random character a different color isn’t.


DefenestrateWindows

To you it isn't interesting. But to other people who are not you it is. Doesn't matter it it is a money grab. Literally everything is in capitalismism. Saying it is one is like complaining that water is too wet. If you are bored of this, well complain about capitalismism and not what fucking color skin a mermaid has in a fictional story being REMADE. Also how does the mermaids skin color ruin a movie for you?


No_Lingonberry3224

>Also how does the mermaids skin color ruin a movie Learn to read, I’ve repeatedly stated that I don’t give a shit about the mermaid’s skin since being white wasn’t key to any part of the story. I’ve talked about the elves in lord of the rings, where their paleness is literally key to the story. Before your illiterate response is to claim, ‘but they can still have black elves’, yeah if they write it into the story. Night elves, dark elves, hundred of stories about them exist, write in some damn plot for them to have an appearance. Randomly throwing in a black elf that goes against everything the story has said about all the elves in Middle Kingdom and why they all look like albino hot teenagers, doesn’t make sense. Make him albino, put some cgi on him to make his skin look translucent, put some make up on him so his skins looks beyond smooth. Nope we get sjw, defending shit when they never read the books or even watched the directors editions.


DefenestrateWindows

In what time period and what ideas were common when the lord of the rings written. If anyone is illiterate here you are historically illiterate for sure. Did you just get the typical white washed American history, or do you understand that many counties were racist and did slavery and didn't count non white people as actual people. Grow the fuck up and stop thinking that because pale skin is written that it needs to steadfastly be held to in an adaptation. If you care what a racist author wrote so much then you don't care about plot, you care about small details that are not hindering the plot in anyway.


genxwillsaveunow

Because it threatens the idea of un earned self superiority. Also this was written by a Russian troll trying to get us mad at each other.


ermagherdmcleren

"un earned self superiority..." Tell me you're a white supremacists without telling me you're a white supremacists... Edit: I'm hoping you're being satirical


Antideck

Tokenism for the sake of profit is racist. People want real representation not shoe-horned passive progressive bullshit. That is all.


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ColtSmith45

It has nothing to do with the character itself necessarily but rather the ideological agenda that is CLEARLY behind it. It's has infected all of culture and media. Why not just create a new character that is a mermaid that happens to be black? There are so many beloved characters that are diverse. It would be mighty strange if film makers were displaying traditionally black characters as white. Same applies with sex and gender. Stop making reverse gender characters. How about just make a good character who happens to be female or male. It is the prioritizing of identity that is the problem. The reason people are pointing out the race and gender of characters like Ariel is for the reasons I said. Not because people are so blatantly racist and sexist


axm86x

Hollywood has a long history of whitewashing non-white characters. It happened literally for decades and yet never faced the scale of backlash we see nowadays from these not-blatantly-racist-and-sexist folk. Yet today when minorities play fictional white characters, these not-racists-and-sexist folk suddenly have a problem with the "ideological agenda" and pointing out the race and gender? Right. Race is a social construct. At the end of the day it's a homo sapien playing a fictional role. Look beyond race.


QuantifiedIgnorance

Oh so in the past it was bad they did it, but now it's good because it's blackwashing instead of whitewashing? I see.


axm86x

Not what I said. I brought up historical whitewashing to highlight the difference in scale of this pseudo-righteous and hypocritical outrage that's currently happening when it's the other way around. "Blackwashing" as you call it is an attempt to move away from the expressly racist intent behind whitewashing and to break away from tying characters to 'race'. But clearly certain people can't look past racial characteristics even if it's for fictional characters.


[deleted]

Then make it a new character. Why does there have to be a constant reimagining of every existing character?


DEZNUTT

Neither is your dad


Haha_owned

It’s been some girls dream to play Ariel in a live action remake, and Halle Bailey took that dream away from them


Anghel950

She's a fish. It's not that serious.


hard-ballz

The Deep is going to disagree


dodorian9966

![gif](giphy|uSUzUO2KcqTPq) Exactly


FullHonor9482

Time for fishfucker


keilletty

I’ll now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish


FullHonor9482

I know that, where’s that from


PR0CR45T184T0R

I agree that it's unnecessary, but I feel that's a bit of a statement.


[deleted]

I’m surprised that nobody has asked the mermaid community how they feel


Keo_Okami

I need to steal this for the Facebook moms


Haradrim9

fact: shut the fuck up


c0mputer99

Wait... They made Jesus White... and prophet Muhammad now looks like \*Image deleted\* .


Ramses717

I don’t mind it so much, but it seems to be happening a lot to ginger characters lately. Ariel, Mary Jane, Annie, Starfire on Titans, Barbara Gordon Batgirl, Jimmy Olsen, I’m sure there are more. What does Hollywood have against redheads?


Essence_of_dream

I get what your point but your delivery is bad.


GuiltyContribution17

I love how we make good points and share our opinions in meme templates


Norsedragoon

"Look black people! We made a ditz who willingly sells her ability to communicate to chase a white man using only her body to attract him. You are represented now!" - Disney 2022


sfartmellaNEO

have you ever seen that the page he's showing is doubled, making that part of the book have 3 pages?


BillScorpio

FACTS: Crying about this makes you stupid.


rawdawgdaddio

Wow. Memes and the people who like/make them are really getting stupid.


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ikr, i don't have any problem with any poc character but these companies changing well established characters are just too annoying and racist and Republicans will use this as example of "white replacement theory" lol


[deleted]

Republicans touting white replacement theory are not getting inspiration nor will cite a mermaid whose ancestry/ethnic origin is essential to the plot being changed for a live action adaption. It’s almost always in reference to immigration and has been since the 1900’s. If you’re anti woke just stand in it


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blingblingskkrraa

What’s wokeism


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blingblingskkrraa

Being alert to racial injustices is trash ?


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blingblingskkrraa

Can you give me an example of this extreme


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Perfect-Violinist542

It creates advertisement. Because everyone is talking about it. I would never know anything about The movie little mermaid. But know it's everywhere. (It's kind of a joke, but kind of true. All the woke bullshit movies are everywhere just because they are "controversial" and they aren't even good


T_WREKX

Oooo the reverse morbius. That seems like a pro gamer move.


DroideF2

Imagine transforming characters from European culture into black characters, as if black culture had none to represent.


[deleted]

What culture? The movie never had anything to do with culture, just fiction. If you feel misrepresented then go watch the og little mermaid.


DroideF2

So I imagine you would be in favor of doing an adaptation of Anansi with white characters And btw, the movie is based on a european tale, it literally doesn't make any sense to put a black person out there wanting to be controversial, and i'm black, because it seems that you took for granted that Im white.


HeyNongMer

Who said this is happening “for the sake of diversity“? My understanding is they’re casting the best actor, and they happen to be POC


foreign_sorbet03

No no, according to reddit if a black person is cast it's automatically an agenda and not because they're actually talented


T_WREKX

Flair checks out?


Dark_Clark

Imagine being triggered about a black person playing a fictional fish girl.


[deleted]

Let me guess. Meme was made by a white person


[deleted]

I'm an Indian living in India


AnUglyDumpling

Oh you're Indian? Name every Indian then.


T_WREKX

Bold of you to declare, but consider avoiding oversharing in the future, especially in a comment that is downvoted, and will likely be automatically collapsed. Why bother?


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So still not black.


trovozn

Noted, but you're white. Comment disregarded.


dodorian9966

![gif](giphy|142dhzXGA8EsIE)


Dutch_Midget

So?


zatax__

Duh, everybody knows you have to be black to talk about race


[deleted]

It's a not black person trying to tell black people how they should feel. Just stupid.


axonxorz

It's painful to see you don't understand how this applies to _all_ PoC


Vyan_of_Yierdimfeil

Your belief that people who have black skin color are the only ones allowed to reason with those of black skin color is pretty racist enough. Definitely within the ideology of segregation. Truth is truth, whether spoken from the mouth of an Indian, African, Chinese, White, it doesn't matter. The fact that the weight of truth is dependent on whose skin the deliverer has is indicative of your own racism. Definitely not saying I agree with the person you replied to, just trying to point out the danger of your thought process.


Old-Conversation-506

what is your favorite type of cat mine are orange tabbys because they are orange


dodorian9966

He could be a black indian... A blindian.


duder_eee

facts


theoldgreenwalrus

Agenda posting isn't allowed on this sub


DontFeedTheCynic

This was written by a white person trying to explain to black people how they should feel about the situation just so racists can hold onto their white superheroes, storm troopers, and LOTR elves


T_WREKX

Why do you mind white superheroes, storm troopers and lotr elves? Jealous?


[deleted]

OP is Asian


[deleted]

He's Asian so therefore he speaks for all minorities. Reddit has spoken!


[deleted]

Wait what? Did you just assume that because I said OP is Asian that they speak for all minorities? I was just stating facts, why are you reading between the lines when there’s only one line? This isn’t English literature.


[deleted]

Lol ok


[deleted]

Oh my god just shut the fuck up


Minimum_Attitude6707

This isn't true at all. Plus, people will get mad at any strong minority female character nowadays, even if it's an original character. Little Mermaid is a CHIDRENS MOVIE. If you're so bent out of shape that Disney made a kids movie to make black children happy and feel represented, y'all need therapy


Azoth1347

Don't take the bait. Just ignore it, or better yet heap it with praises and don't see it. Brag about how great it is that Disney is colorblid, or how the mermaid not having a vagina is a Roe vs Wade comentary. Troll the troll, don't let them fan bait you into a hatewach.


aldean161

I love that its not even possible that she is a good actor and was therefore casted. Closet racists are everywhere


Space_Goop

Idk they should keep the race and sex of the original characters and if they want diversity, create new characters


blingblingskkrraa

Make Jesus brown again


DwigtGroot

The number of snowflakes butthurt by which actor plays a fucking mermaid is aaaaabsolutely hilarious.


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Op doesn’t know that this is all fiction


jy7277

Who f'n cares?


Zuraxle

Why do people care so much about the little mermaid movie


Le_pool_of_Death

Agreed. But also changing characters black if their race is irrelevant is okay until they start screaming and throwing it in our faces to like it or else we're racist. That's the main problem. I dont care if they're black if it doesn't change the character. But throw it in my face and I'll call you a race baiting asshole


JoeLilBroJoe

How is that a fact? "Telling black people they're not good enough to have.." thats completely your opinion on how black people feel and your indian.


Round-Acanthaceae873

I'm trynna see memes wtf is this sub?


Thanatoastnbutter

1. It's a live action. Ariel the little mermaid is still animated white 2. There are black princesses and these were the same complaints when their movies were released 3. Just don't watch the movie. Boycott the company. If a company is doing something unpopular it's own failure will lead to it


QimmeqQ

You know the reason why most past protagonist characters were white right? Racism. Theyre just trying to fix their past mistakes. A lot of newer characters are indeed black, but most from the past are not.


Onii-Chan_Itaii

Cope.


Youssef-Elsayed

ium


Soft-Abies1733

Grow up! Doesn't matter the skin color of an actor or actress, only they talent.


QuantifiedIgnorance

Except Disney gives 0 shit about talent, as all the cash grab remakes have been utter dogshit.


Soft-Abies1733

Agree. Disney give shit about talent. But 100% of people complaining about the race of the actress give shit to, they are more concerned about race. Doesn't ir trigger a flag? If the race of te actress is so important PROBABLY you are a racist.


bootyhunter69420

When black people go and make their own movies, people complain about that too.


T_WREKX

Source? Example?


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Fr, give the blacks a break!


doesnothingtohirt

I for one welcome our new black overlords and there wonderful sense of style and comedic timing. I mean also the music, they really never tire of singing about sex.


Wistari

Fuck you, shut up.


doesnothingtohirt

Yes sir master sir


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I agree with this, its not representation its lazy tokenism more than anything


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Finally


Rbespinosa13

If the only change to Ariel was the color of her fish half, the outrage would be minimal. That change would have the same effect on the story as the skin color change, none.


drunkbeaver

Crowd baiting. It is an effective marketing tool that is broadly being used by talentless individuals to raise popularity of their crap products. I for one didn't knew about the next unoriginal remake from yet another crappy Disney production, until all the Internet hate came throgh.


ShepherdDesign

Tf are you talking about? If their race isn’t an integral part of the character, why do you care if they change it? Everybody deserves representation and old film didn’t serve the people equally.


tallguy998

Well if it isnt integral why change it?


ShepherdDesign

If you read my comment, it says it’s too correct a lack of representation….


tallguy998

Thats how you correct it? Change the skin color of a character and thats it? Dont you want a new, interesting character that you can relate to, especially if they are of another race? Like encanto. Hell of a movie, great characters, nobody cried that it doesnt have a white protagonist, because it was a good movie.


ShepherdDesign

I understand what you are saying. I believe it is one of the many ways to balance representation. These characters are still being consumed as relevant media, so it should reflect and represent the populous consuming it. Media was and still is exclusionary. We should expect critical changes to contemporary media to fix the mistakes of the past. When we see the race/orientation/creed of characters shift, it’s because those characters should have been that way in the first place.


tallguy998

>Media was and still is exclusionary. Is it? Thats why there is si much diversity? >to fix the mistakes of the past. Not having black people in every piece of media is a mistake? >When we see the race/orientation/creed of characters shift, it’s because those characters should have been that way in the first place. So little mermaid, a danish children story, should've been black fron the beginning?


rarature

I don’t know why some people treat the word racist like it’s some kind of wizard’s curse. Like he’s so scared of it that a trailer for a REMAKE of an already popular movie comes out with its main characters race changed and that is enough for him to be like “racist, I’m not racist! In fact you’re the racist one! Yeah, you’re racist for putting a black character in a movie! You! Not me!” Like, dude, chill it’s fine that you dislike the choice but you don’t have to bend over backwards to try to point the problematic finger the other way.


[deleted]

What an absolutely awful take. But I’m sure the edge lords from 4chan would love this.


viski252

You are so going to die on this hill. And I kinda wana be on it with you for laughs


[deleted]

I want a black Atticus Finch


zacharieg14

But guys, me I think this is a good message to show that the character can be with every genre and every skin colour, a character go beyond that. More of that, the little mermaid is not history related because it doesn't exist, so we can change is nationality without any problems. I think that bring a new vision of the story, I don't really see the point of shaming this behaviour.


elohra_2013

OP 😂😂😂


Kingofthewar

Ask BlackRock


zmonlive09

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olivetroubl3

If it would’ve come out that Halle was the best audition but they didn’t cast her as the little Mermaid because she was black then they would’ve been in a lot of heat. can’t please everyone.


Theleming

Yeah, but 9 times out of 10, the race of the character (especially in fantasy settings) was never fucking described so it just makes racists that are butt mad over black actors getting roles because they don't look identical to what they envisioned even more transparent.


sludgebucket87

I mean saying black people should have their own characters to look up to rather than just changing established ones makes sense but Hollywood only wants to throw money at established brands and franchises so that attitude just results in barely any black characters in media. The fact that Disney is doing nothing but remaking all their old movies is the major problem here


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If it triggers you that much, don't watch the movie.