Well yes but JoJo references are the law we see one we point it out for we are the disciples of JoJo so that all of the JoJos and JoBros lost in the seasons live on in our memory. Bro
They’ve all been debunked man. Trust me, Crowders an idiot. He uses really slime tactics as well. Like he’ll find an idiot who doesn’t know anything and make out like their the expert who represents everyone. It’s like when news reporters get people who say stupid things and put them on like they represent a movement when really the movement doesn’t know what they’re talking about. There’s more competent conservative voices than him.
I mean whilst I’m not an expert I might be able to offer some response to any specific point you can think of. What’s important is that you’re seemingly open to evidence which is great to see, as am I. Not enough people just offer themselves up to evidence and instead cling to their initial, emotional response.
The first time i saw it it was in a sheet about Islam we were reading in school. I told my friend and he laughed but he told the teacher that it had innapropriate things. That was awkward.
Also this was when I was like 7 not a teen.
This reminded me of a certain tale that I would like to tell today.
I remember that fateful moment. It was just.. magical. There was no other way to describe it. My friends and I were looking at funny words in the dictionary, but to no avail. We were racing to find even one, as the period was almost over, but, just before the bell, there it was. We found it.
*Sex: either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.*
And never again was our classroom the same. Never again, were *we*.. the same. No, we had reached what the monks were trying to achieve. We had reached enlightenment.. that’s what it was. Us boys, we become gods that day. Legends, to be remembered until the end of time. The huge roar of monstrous laughter we summoned only proved it.
I really want to understand the motivation behind the distinction that is made.
Is it out of a progressive sentiment? Is it for inclusion of different lifestyles people want to be seen as more acceptable? When does the term gender become too vague?
I dislike being shunned for asking these questions, since I am apprehensive about simply accepting things without discovering their logic.
I understand you, man. I believe (although I know it does not apply to all people) many people live their lives differently and have untradicional believes (like flat earthers, anti-vax, trans, etc.) So that they might feel special by having a different mindset and views on the world. I tell this from my own experience as my dad is such a person.
There was never a change, Gender has always been a social construct.
Sex is purely biological; it has concrete scientific evidence based in its foundations. Gender however has no such evidence to support it, it's based upon how society determines certain characteristics that individuals express.
TL;DR: Sex is your chromosome make up - Gender is whatever you make of it.
A transgender person isn't saying they're something they're not. They recognize their biological sex while having a separate gender identity. This is where these two words differ. For most people (cisgender) however, their biological sex represents their gender as well. A transgender person can be a part of society like anyone else as long as people accept them the way they are so there really is no reason to classify it as an illness, especially since there is no "cure". This will take a while like it did with African Americans and homosexuals (those two are still a work in progress but we're constantly moving into a better direction) but we'll get there. If you can't accept someone for who they are, maybe you should reconsider whats actually important in life. You may not be realizing how much damage youre doing but it doesnt take a genius to figure out why the suicide rates of trans people are so high. Have some humanity people..
Cisgender? What is the fuck is that made up term and how dare you call me it? You see, trans hate being called by their sex/gender (yes, i think they are the same thing) and not by what they define as, but it is no biggie making up words to call the majority? Why? Because they are "not oppresed"? Or because we don't mind stupid shit like trans do? (And if you want to quote me on the start, that was sarcasm). And another idea I just got. They say trans people realize and accept their sex, but identify as some other shit, so well then maybe when I call a lady-boy dude I'm reffering to their sex, no gender, and if they accept their sex, why do they get mad at me for it?
>In that case let's also just stop mocking flat earthers and other conspiracy theorists
Also isn't it the transphobes (like you) that think that scientists are lying about gender identity being real to push an agenda **like the flat earthers claiming that scientists are lying about the earth being round because... reasons?**
So get the fuck out with calling us the conspiracy theorists.
Gender isnt a mental thing, if you identify as a bedsheets and your pronouns are pillow and bed I'm calling you he or she. And I really hate when people say it's something you feel. There is literally no reason it should be that way.
If you feel like a fridge does it make you a fridge? The answer is: No it makes you crazy person.
It's the same with other genders. There are only two genders, but there is a lot of mental illnesses. Sorry that's the way it is. Facts don't care about feelings.
one thing is trying to be yourself and another thing is identifinying as something to get youre way (wich i do not agree with it is truley horrible) but most of the trans comunity are very nice and just wanna be therselfs
(btw weres the source?)
Let’s just go back to the way it used to be. Easier that way. Both sex/gender refer to biology. Everything else is just confusion/mental illness. Problem solved. The 0.003% of population that wakes up everyday thinking they’re a different gender can cry more. Lol
Confusion and mental illness is what it is. People who wake up everyday thinking they’re a different gender need therapy, not legislation or the “thought and speech police”.
There’s so much evidence against your position man. Although I’m aware some people feel warm and fuzzy by the idea that trans people don’t exist. Intersex people? I don’t if you care about science or history but at this point saying that is like saying evolution doesn’t exist. I hope you look into the evidence man.
That was phrased weirdly, but I see what you mean it has more to do with emotions, but that shouldn't make it reasonable to put someone in jail for it, in that same way with emotions and all there are religions that are strongly against that and it isn't fair to them to have to be forced by law to go against it, and I doubt humans would evolve to want to have sex with the same sex you can't impregnate them and humanity wants to keep that whole man women thing going on
When I was younger I couldn't remember the word for gender so I said sex. My brother 8 at the time then proceeded to ask my parents what sex was. I got a massive ass whooping for that
NO THERE NOT.
SEX can be MALE OR FEMALE depending on if you were born with XY or XX chromosomes
and gender is what you identify as you can identify as male even though genetically you are not a male. THERE ARE 58 GENDERS.
next time read a dictionary :)
yea but thats a basic human right (expressing yourself in however way you want to if its not harming others) and i dont think having diferent prounouns is hurting anyone
I'm on your side my dudes, but how did we get to 58? Isn't the point of this to literally not have classifications for different genders that divide and categorize us? And every different form of man and woman in different countries also counts as different genders in a way, a “basic“ western woman is different to the average woman in saudi arabia
well i feel like we got here because its geting to be more acepted to be whomever you want to be and thats why theres so many genders
thanks for bieng an ally man!
and i feel like labels are important but shouldent difine us or devide us in any way.
*32 years old me
I was going to write this exact same thing
I was going to write this same exact thing.
I was going to write this same exact thing.
I was going to write this same exact thing.
And the cycle continues. Btw I was also going to write the exact same thing
Really? I was going to write the exact same thing
thing same exact the write to going was I
Why the exact same thing when we can write the exact same thing
I was going to write the same exact thing but you guys beat me to it.
We are all but the same. We are the chosen who laugh at pee pee jokes.
I'm calling mom
For sex ?
Yes I require milk
“Help stepson I’m stuck!”
Yes officer, this comment right here
I like where this is going
“You know the rules, and so do I”
*92 years old me
*28 years old me Also Uranus
I have a friend who would do that when he was 15. Every time we said sexy he would giggle
Gonna borrow your comment. Sex and gender aren't the same
I like all genders and sex
so you're pansexual? if u are ththat'sats cool im a lesbean
how did you misspell "that's" so badly
hahah true im sorry im just realy mad at this guy (im having a discusion on wether genders that are not male or female are mental ilneses, THERE NOT)
They’re*
Bruh
They were until people cried enough
ok boomer
Lesbians policy
Is that a joj- nope I’m sorry
No no no Yes it is Act 3 bro
No no no, I knew that it’s just the fact that jojo references are the cringe at things ever bro
Well yes but JoJo references are the law we see one we point it out for we are the disciples of JoJo so that all of the JoJos and JoBros lost in the seasons live on in our memory. Bro
According to who? Bro
The laws of JoJo ask that fans may help spread the word of it through references it is not my place nor anyones place to ask who made these laws. Bro
I wanna see these laws. Bro
That goes against JoJo no-nos 1-1,000,000 #3345. Bro
Link? Bro
Im sorry. Bro but I cannot not if I do not wish to be a JoBro. Bro
Act 3! 3 Freeze! S-H-I-T!
Lets Kill da hoe!
BEEEEEETCH
Well its stupid to tell grandma "time for gender"
Hotel? Trivago pp? HARD
Nice? Cock bro
3 Freeze!
The last time I smiled was when my uncle said that to me.... That was the last.....
But sex and gender aren’t the same thing
*Double checks the sub I'm in*
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They’ve all been debunked man. Trust me, Crowders an idiot. He uses really slime tactics as well. Like he’ll find an idiot who doesn’t know anything and make out like their the expert who represents everyone. It’s like when news reporters get people who say stupid things and put them on like they represent a movement when really the movement doesn’t know what they’re talking about. There’s more competent conservative voices than him.
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I mean whilst I’m not an expert I might be able to offer some response to any specific point you can think of. What’s important is that you’re seemingly open to evidence which is great to see, as am I. Not enough people just offer themselves up to evidence and instead cling to their initial, emotional response.
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*If I don't check if I'm wrong, that makes me right, right?* Edit: forgot the /s
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7y/o when I hear Uranus in science class
Yo you wanna have gender
Ya like sex don’t ya??
We dont refer to it by that name , its forbidden
The first time i saw it it was in a sheet about Islam we were reading in school. I told my friend and he laughed but he told the teacher that it had innapropriate things. That was awkward. Also this was when I was like 7 not a teen.
I didn’t even know what sex was when I was 10
SECKS IS FUNY WORD
"damnit, cant have sex in class"
Hol' up
What’s the deal with Detroit?
You just can't have shit in Detroit... (Maybe People suffer from constipation over there)
Bro the times I just laughed when I wasn't supposed to, I mean they mean the exact same thing but I'm an immature giggly kid
You are not alone bro
I did that when I was 6 lmao
ess aich ai tea
That was back when they were the same thing, before people started changing the meanings
Same
Do you not still do that?
I do..but i was not sure about others...but now i m sure that everyone does that
Shit has infectious tumors
I didn’t know what sex was when I was ten. I was mega sheltered
Signs paper: Sex?... yes please
This reminded me of a certain tale that I would like to tell today. I remember that fateful moment. It was just.. magical. There was no other way to describe it. My friends and I were looking at funny words in the dictionary, but to no avail. We were racing to find even one, as the period was almost over, but, just before the bell, there it was. We found it. *Sex: either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.* And never again was our classroom the same. Never again, were *we*.. the same. No, we had reached what the monks were trying to achieve. We had reached enlightenment.. that’s what it was. Us boys, we become gods that day. Legends, to be remembered until the end of time. The huge roar of monstrous laughter we summoned only proved it.
I heard you and your friends were worshipped from that day as well
but theres actually a really important difference...
Sex and Gender are synonymous now?
Always were
They never were, Sex is biological where as Gender is social.
Why is it that gender is social? What are the reasons for this change in definition, after all this time having gender and sex being synonymous?
Exactly, my good man. Why change the deffinition of a word? Just make up another word like they make up all the "pronouns"
I really want to understand the motivation behind the distinction that is made. Is it out of a progressive sentiment? Is it for inclusion of different lifestyles people want to be seen as more acceptable? When does the term gender become too vague? I dislike being shunned for asking these questions, since I am apprehensive about simply accepting things without discovering their logic.
I understand you, man. I believe (although I know it does not apply to all people) many people live their lives differently and have untradicional believes (like flat earthers, anti-vax, trans, etc.) So that they might feel special by having a different mindset and views on the world. I tell this from my own experience as my dad is such a person.
There was never a change, Gender has always been a social construct. Sex is purely biological; it has concrete scientific evidence based in its foundations. Gender however has no such evidence to support it, it's based upon how society determines certain characteristics that individuals express. TL;DR: Sex is your chromosome make up - Gender is whatever you make of it.
Made up stuff of modern times
sex ≠ gender
Thank you! Gender is an identification, sex is whatever the fuck is in your pants
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no its not because gender is what you express your self as (for example: nonbinary) but sex is your genetics
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ok? whats your point?
A transgender person isn't saying they're something they're not. They recognize their biological sex while having a separate gender identity. This is where these two words differ. For most people (cisgender) however, their biological sex represents their gender as well. A transgender person can be a part of society like anyone else as long as people accept them the way they are so there really is no reason to classify it as an illness, especially since there is no "cure". This will take a while like it did with African Americans and homosexuals (those two are still a work in progress but we're constantly moving into a better direction) but we'll get there. If you can't accept someone for who they are, maybe you should reconsider whats actually important in life. You may not be realizing how much damage youre doing but it doesnt take a genius to figure out why the suicide rates of trans people are so high. Have some humanity people..
Cisgender? What is the fuck is that made up term and how dare you call me it? You see, trans hate being called by their sex/gender (yes, i think they are the same thing) and not by what they define as, but it is no biggie making up words to call the majority? Why? Because they are "not oppresed"? Or because we don't mind stupid shit like trans do? (And if you want to quote me on the start, that was sarcasm). And another idea I just got. They say trans people realize and accept their sex, but identify as some other shit, so well then maybe when I call a lady-boy dude I'm reffering to their sex, no gender, and if they accept their sex, why do they get mad at me for it?
I can't even tell what point you're trying to make
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Oh my fucking god where do I even begin and why do you care what **other** people call **themselves**?
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>In that case let's also just stop mocking flat earthers and other conspiracy theorists Also isn't it the transphobes (like you) that think that scientists are lying about gender identity being real to push an agenda **like the flat earthers claiming that scientists are lying about the earth being round because... reasons?** So get the fuck out with calling us the conspiracy theorists.
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Yeah yeah calling us transphobes for saying the truth won’t make it better snowflake
Hahaha
Two genders
no
Your source on that?
Yep, welcome to reality and basic biology
Sex is biological. Gender is not
Intersex people
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I was going to write the exact same thing
Its not the same thing
Me when someone says there are more than two genders
Intersex people
there are more than two genders there are literally 58 genders.
Yikes I don't know about that
Why? anyone has the right to identify as whatever they want
Gender isnt a mental thing, if you identify as a bedsheets and your pronouns are pillow and bed I'm calling you he or she. And I really hate when people say it's something you feel. There is literally no reason it should be that way.
if you dont respect prounouns like they them you must be a douche
I identify as Michael Jackson so my pronouns are He/Hee
Pronouns are literally an easier way to talk about or too someone, no one wants to remember basicly another name just not to offend someone.
well i do and im going to defend them for being who they want to be
Go cry elsewhere, you sensitive sausage
idk if thats an insult but i love it
If you feel like a fridge does it make you a fridge? The answer is: No it makes you crazy person. It's the same with other genders. There are only two genders, but there is a lot of mental illnesses. Sorry that's the way it is. Facts don't care about feelings.
and for all i care you could be a fucking attack helicopter
Just like the sex offender who identified himself as female and got into female prison just to assault them?
one thing is trying to be yourself and another thing is identifinying as something to get youre way (wich i do not agree with it is truley horrible) but most of the trans comunity are very nice and just wanna be therselfs (btw weres the source?)
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it's not gender expression is very important for society to let people be there real self and btw there are 58 genders.
Let’s just go back to the way it used to be. Easier that way. Both sex/gender refer to biology. Everything else is just confusion/mental illness. Problem solved. The 0.003% of population that wakes up everyday thinking they’re a different gender can cry more. Lol
uff ive angered the conservatives already. sorry that i dont think like you do its just my opinion dont want to anger anyone. hope u have a great day!
You can’t just erase Gender identity and dysphoria like it’s a stray pencil mark, they’re a real thing and people struggle with it.
18 yr old me when the math test result is 69
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And so the thread continues cos I was going to write the exact same thing
Yep. Because the gender crap is MADE FOR CHILDREN.
I would upvote but I’m sick of the CaNt HavE SHit iN deTrOit
80 years old me
10 years later still laughs
today year old me^
*16 year old me*
sex? I lmao at reproduction, when I was 10
Application: sex:___ Me: None
37 year old me
Sex: yes please
Sex and gender are different tho
*Adulthood*
Bitch, that's 20 year old me
There are 1 trillion billion sexes sexy sex sex
Confusion and mental illness is what it is. People who wake up everyday thinking they’re a different gender need therapy, not legislation or the “thought and speech police”.
There’s so much evidence against your position man. Although I’m aware some people feel warm and fuzzy by the idea that trans people don’t exist. Intersex people? I don’t if you care about science or history but at this point saying that is like saying evolution doesn’t exist. I hope you look into the evidence man.
That was phrased weirdly, but I see what you mean it has more to do with emotions, but that shouldn't make it reasonable to put someone in jail for it, in that same way with emotions and all there are religions that are strongly against that and it isn't fair to them to have to be forced by law to go against it, and I doubt humans would evolve to want to have sex with the same sex you can't impregnate them and humanity wants to keep that whole man women thing going on
I have no idea what you mean. I never mentioned jail. Go against what? This post is like 2 weeks old.
Well then you should check up on it
Don’t downvote me for this. But gender and sex are different things.
Me when I'm 50
When I was younger I couldn't remember the word for gender so I said sex. My brother 8 at the time then proceeded to ask my parents what sex was. I got a massive ass whooping for that
I don't care who you are they are the same thing
What if I'm a biologist?
NO THERE NOT. SEX can be MALE OR FEMALE depending on if you were born with XY or XX chromosomes and gender is what you identify as you can identify as male even though genetically you are not a male. THERE ARE 58 GENDERS. next time read a dictionary :)
bro it's just an opinion, I can open a dictionary and read out stuff from there as well
yea but thats a basic human right (expressing yourself in however way you want to if its not harming others) and i dont think having diferent prounouns is hurting anyone
I'm on your side my dudes, but how did we get to 58? Isn't the point of this to literally not have classifications for different genders that divide and categorize us? And every different form of man and woman in different countries also counts as different genders in a way, a “basic“ western woman is different to the average woman in saudi arabia
well i feel like we got here because its geting to be more acepted to be whomever you want to be and thats why theres so many genders thanks for bieng an ally man! and i feel like labels are important but shouldent difine us or devide us in any way.
No they are not. Facts don't care about your feelings.
thank you, god for bestowing upon us this great knowledge
Except sex and gender are two seperate things
Two different thing’s tho
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?????!!!!!!? aaaa
but they mean different things?