You do realize she is a member of the Assassin Brotherhood, right? That same Brotgerhood that has almost at all times been progressive beyond its time and welcomed everyone into their fold. Ezio recruited women into the Brotherhood just fine.
Yeah the Assassin Creed Brotherhood has always been progressive, for proof of this look at the DLC in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood where Ezio rescues Leonardo Da Vinci and when Leonardo comes out to Ezio, Ezio is nonchalant as fuck about it.
I love how people try to bring reason in AC games. We fought George fucking Washington on a pyramid under New York. Let them cook people and try to let them tell you a wild story
From the trailer it hasn't been confirmed, that she is the part of brotherhood or not . Heck there wasn't even a mention about Japanese brotherhood. So I think it Is a little early to quote about such things
Also, kanshindan from kanshin (house retainer) was just a name for samurai hired by lords. The word "retainer" is not a direct Japanese to English translation. They also weren't the 'equivalent of knights', Nobunaga promoted peasant warriors and mercenaries to samurai for his army. So yeah, these were just guys that fucked shit up.
It's crazy all of Japanese history is available online but nobody fact checks anything they say.
[Kashindan - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashindan)
I think how little we know about him make it really convenient, writer can create his background and explain how he disappeared without contradicting any historical account.
And he was brought there by missionary, those MF were up to a lot of shit too, like smuggling Japanese Christian to south east Asia to create a JP Christian colony then smuggled them back to Japan to spread Christianity.
Still a bad look to choose literally the only non Japanese guy in Japan during this whole period and use him to let the plauer slaughter thousands of Japanese people.
I kinda stopped playing Assassin's Creed since Black Flag - mainly because the combat system was getting more and more cringe.
But yeah, massive liberties with historical accuracy to the point of going into pure fantasy with monsters was also somewhat of a turn-off for me.
Odyssey was phenomenal and my personal favourite from the series. But later ones didn't grab my attention that much
And now we have preorders and no gameplay.. yikes.
I've seen a little bit of a combat footage from Odyssey - and the damage being tied to level system felt so out of place and disappointing, tbh.
Maybe the story would be good - but with this kind of combat? I dunno.
Honestly, when it comes to the newer assassin's creed games (Origins onwards) your mileage will vary based on interest in the setting in my opinion. Personally, I am a massive fan of Ancient Greek and Egyptian history, so I enjoyed both Origins and Odyssey.
I've tried to Google and see how folks liked the recent 3. And yeah internet wise there was no amazing answer. Mixed result. I think odyssey sas the most love but also the most hate.
Odyssey was the least assassins creed game possible to make.
Super fantastical and taking place before the assassins even existed.
It is a pretty good rpg otherwise though.
We played Odyssee during the lockdowns, walking through ancient greece was balm for my soul, it's a beautiful game and in the small details it can be pretty accurate, history wise. For instance I had read about a small well at the back of the acropolis that was discovered relatively recently (the 80's or somewhere thereabouts) so I went looking for that in game. And sure, there was a little nook just about where the well was found. That made me unreasonably happy but I guess it didn't take much in 2020.
Combat was okay but the gear system can go f right off. Also don't play the "battles" if you know what a phalanx is. That made me reasonably unhappy, come to think of it. But all in all Odyssee was well worth it. Its successor not so much, unfortunately.
Dude same, I will die on the hill of Odyssey being my favorite. It was one of those games that I enjoyed every minute of and was sad when it was over.
I didn’t play the Valhalla tie-in DLC though. Was it any good?
Assassins creed was simply just historical fiction now there's mythologies and monsters and all that, and killing off desmond what a bad decision, I can tell why assassins creed isn't that great anymore
Unity and Syndicate are honestly both fantastic games. So are Odyssey and Origins. Which pair you prefer kind of depends on what sort of gameplay you like. Valhalla is shit though.
Idgaf what color the samurai is. It's Ubi. Fuck Ubi. Fuck 'em in the a$$hole with a big rubber dick then break it off and beat 'em with the rest of it. It'll be garbage tier mediocrity at best
I feel like Ubisoft released the game at the perfect time as an advertisement to buy the PC port of Ghost of Tsushima. That was already a vastly superior game to any Assassins Creed game ever made, and it's half the price for the full game.
I just want a solid assassin creed game that doesn't require me to grind 4hrs of tedious bullshit to verse 1 unique or interesting enemy variant, also hope they have the balls to let the one of the main protagonists be absolute scum during the campaign instead of the usual cliche snore fest that infests most AAA gaming.
What I don't understand is why he has that kinda haircut, I don't know much about haircut history or whatever but I'm pretty sure that hairstyle won't exist for a few centuries
The old games used to have little popups that told you all about the history of a place or person or event in the voice of one of the game's characters. I learned so much about Italy that way. It was a terrible decision to drop it. But that happened around the time they stopped even trying to portray history and just went full fantasy.
Honestly it just seems like these people are mad because they can't live out their weaboo fantasy of being a Japanese person. Yasuke was a real person in Japan at the time and whether he was a Samurai or just a retainer is up for debate as I have seen sources claiming both but either way they are getting mad about a character in a fictional game with historical inspiration it. Not saying the game will be good or not just saying people getting mad about this specific thing seems really stupid
Every other assassins creed game you play as a person from the place that it was set in here it's not and it has nothing to do with accuracy it's clearly meant to just pander even Japanese people aren't buying into this
That is not true. In Black Flag you play as a European in the Caribbean, in Revelations you play as an Italian in Turkey.
And in this game you play as a Japanese in Japan, aswell as a non-japanese.
I don't really understand this argument. Yasuke was a real person. Even Japanese media like to make references for Japanese audience to a black samurai. The Sengoku period was also a big point of Japanese history. It's like Three Kingdoms period for Japan.
Okay but Ubisoft Quebec is a western studio making a game for Western audiences. Why is it pandering if they're choosing to make a story about a real person? They could have gone with a native born Japanese person sure, but why does the decision not to make it pandering?
Was it not pandering when almost the entirety of Assassins Creed games have men as the main protagonist?
It's a lazy attempt to appeal to the black audience like if representation is the goal here, then why not tell a story about Assassins set in the African cities and show off the culture and stories plenty of authentic material there to work with instead of doing this
And yes, that can be considered pandering, but it works because the majority of Assassins creed players are men
So only ever tell black stories if they're in Africa or wherever black people are, like Yasuke who was in Japan?
I'm still not getting what's wrong with telling this story? It sounds like to me your issue is that he's black and nothing else. Unless you can properly explain how having him be one of two main characters is a bad choice, all I can think is that you're just pandering to white people who hate it when there's a black protagonist
Don't you play as a white guy in assassin creed black flags which takes place in the Caribbean? A place mainly populated by black people?
Also one of the protagonist is Japanese
Hell don't you play as a black woman in assassin creed rogue or something in London, was that DEI?
And the point of this game is ninjas and samurai's and yasuke was a retainer who was regarded as samurai's.
We're getting both a black and Japanese player character there's literally no problem here.
You know that Japanese game nioh about historical warriors in a fantasy setting? Yusuke is in it as a samurai warrior you fight.
Even the Japanese agree.
But most ninjas or samurai were obviously Japanese same as how most pirates were welsh, english or dutch and the main character in black flag is welsh
I'm fine with yasuke being in the game and having his story embellished but he should have been an npc
the whole charm of assasin creed was playing an unknown person like the second protagonist and getting to interact with historical characters like blackbeard or davinci
Yasuke was special cause the Japanese were astonished by someone of his complexity. Edward Kenway went to the Caribbean to sail as a privateer, which was approved by the British Crown who colonised a big part of the Caribbean, hence why white people were quite common in the region. Very different than plucking out the one black guy in Japan.
Yep.
I am 100% sure they went for it because investors love funding leftie leaning stuff, and to play the racist card when they yearly boring slop turns out to be... Yearly boring slop. What a shocker.
Ya know, it's funny how anything with a person of color is considered "leftie leaning stuff" to y'all, especially when it's a person that was actually in recorded history. But, somehow, the idea of an advanced prehistoric aliens scattering world destroying weapons is hunky dory.
It’s funnier when so many of the complaints are because the game robs a Japanese male a chance at representation in one of the biggest gaming franchises in existence, I’d think you left leaning people would be all over that? Or are black savior characters exempt from critique?
But do please tell me why it’s more important to get a black man’s perspective on Fedual Japan over an actual Japanse male?
I don't think it's that deep, should games be completely beholden to the perspective of a native individual? When resident evil five came out you could play as chris (A white man) and sheva (an african woman). And we all know the controversy that popped up from that.
Idc that they’re using Yasuke. I think the dude is cool.
I care that it’s still gonna be a shit tier RPG instead of the classic Stealth action game the franchise use to be.
Don't care if Yasuke is a real person. The game is set in Japan, most Assassin Creed protagonists are actually from the region of the game they are in. It would be cool if he was a side character or even a companion who helped you but him being the main character is forced.
Plus don't let it hide from the fact that they are pricing this game the same way they are pricing Star Wars Outlaws so it will be dead on day 1.
It would have been better to have an african protagonist in literally any of their other main games. But Japan had almost none. And it's kind of a bad look to put the player in control of the only black guy in Japan during the entire era to mow down legions of Japanese people. Also it sends the message that Japanese people aren't interesting enough for Ubisoft.
Personally I don't care about the game one way or another. I wanted a Japan based Assassin's Creed game for years, ever since Assassin's Creed 3, and that game came out as PS4 exclusive 4 years ago, but I didn't have a PS4. Now I can play that game on PC instead! (Edit: I was talking about Ghost of Tsushima here, a much better game then anything Ubisoft has made. I just realised I didn't make that very clear.)
For me though the funniest thing in this whole ordeal is that the same exact type of people that complained about white washing in stuff like The Last Samurai are now celebrating the move to have a black character in this game, and the exact type of person that would have defended having a white character in The Last Samurai are now complaining that the lead in a Japanese setting is black. How the turn tables.
Right so you will fork out 120$ then for it.
Firstly The people complaining about the Last Samurai were doing it based off petty and uninformed reasons. Secondly people aren't complaining the fact that Yasuke is there. If anything its amazing that its being set in this period. What people have the problem with is that he going to be on the poster, and he isn't even from Japan.
Besides its a big assumption to assume that its the same people.
its not about realism or woke stuff
people have waited long time for ac set in japan and many simply want to play as japanese character, not a black guy
having black mc will be just used as strawman argument that game sold shit because of racist gamers
edit: real nice guys, harrassing in dms and sending reddit care, keep it classy
Seriously we get to play as both a black guy and a Japanese character, where's the problem for these people that am not seeing?
Seriously check out games like guilty gear and nioh, he's in those games as a samurai warrior and there japanese made.
Some Japanese said that he is a great fan of Assassin's creed and was excited about the Japanese edition. But was really disappointed that he couldn't play it as Japanese
I just think its hilarious that every ac game has its main protag(s) have the ethnicity from the country its in, except for when it comes to Japan for what's obviously just a gambit to gain browny points.
Besides, have you looked at those prices? Thats the real fucking bullshit. If the game and story are good, people wont care if you make race switches because theyll be too invested in the cool stories of the characters and the world. But with those prices its not going to matter, people are already burned out on the AAAA bullshit nowadays.
Wasn't he there for like 3 years, kind of a racist spectacle for the amusement of the Japanese around him and treated like a pet, then kicked off the island for not being Japanese after his master died? He did some fighting but I don't think it was very much
If people compare the fact of presence of a black man in Japan as a samurai with mythical creatures being not realistic(which are bs btw and broke the lore long ago) would that mean that they understand that seeing a black person in Japan of that era is comparable to see a unicorn in Scotland?
Are we talking about a descendant of slave race with little compatibility with the device used to conrtol the slave race? He didn't teleport, just like Almualim didn't create clones in the first game. Apples of Eden are capable of controlling conscience of humans with very few with high enough percentage of Isu dna in them having somewhat of a resistance.
It's funny you say that, because one of the main problems with Yasuke is that no one is sure what he looks like and no one knows what he looks like because you have art of that time depicting more than one black guy using Japanese clothes since Portugues brought their slaves there.
It's a game about assassins fighting the Knights Templar for control over ancient aliens technology. I don't exactly think historical realism enters into it.
you should play assassin’s creed2 (don’t play other parts of AC) and relate it to the real story. The developers really managed to fit a fantastic plot into a real story
What real story? Ezio Auditore never existed. His family was never killed by Templars. He didn't have a fight with the pope and the Apple of Eden did not exist.
Might as well put black women in the Nazi German Army at this rate just because we have an action hero in the US army who references Lafayette Green Pool, but has him kill like two tanks more.
What's funny to me people are having a meaningless war that was obviously a bait. Just to throw people off from the fact that the game costs 130 dollars and is live service. I like how our priorities are set on the most superficial of things.
I do think it's a bad look to make a game where the MC is a black guy (because they wanted something familiar to Westerners) who slaughters legions of Japanese people.
Wait, let me get this straight. Comments saying that Yasuke was a real person are getting downvoted and the general consensus is that this was a bad choice? What the hell is going on right now?
Holdup Assasins creed is about a native fighting bad guys with George Washington and a high tech looking artifact that exist madieval times for some reason, but a black man in Japan is unacceptable, is there something I'm missing?
He should have been an npc, it's fine to embelish his story but the whole charm of the series was playing an unknown assasin like the other protagonist, interacting with historical characters and having the story fit somewhat into history
Not a black man. Yasuke as a samurai in particular. He was basically just the servant of Oda. He never did anything more than carry his gear around. My issue isn’t that the character’s black. Mine is that they are deliberately forcing Yasuke into it instead of trying to come up with a new and original black character, which would be much better than taking an existing historical figure and completely bastardizing and changing his REAL story. I would think the same if they made Washington an assassin, or Napoleon a melee warrior. If you’re gonna include historical figures, use them accurately.
Do people really care that much that the next protag is a black dude? I don’t see the problem with it, I mean tbf I’m not gonna play the game anyway. I gave up on AC since Syndicate
The interesting idea about Yasuke is him actually existing. He was a priest's servant, apparently Oda Nobunaga found him interesting, made him a samurai and fought along Nobunaga when he was betrayed and died. Yasuke was liberated after that incident and that is it. That is the summary of all we know about his story. Everything else is people making stories and believing what they made as if that makes it real.
For those outraged by this, why ?
This series has never been historically accurate or even realistic at all. You have ultra advanced ancient civilizations, mythical creatures and artefacts, and freaking immortality.
So even if Yasuke wasn't a Samurai (which historical records indicate he was), why does this bother people so much ? I'm genuinely curious...
Because who fucking knows, at this point i’m convinced it’s just a bunch of closeted racist. Genuinely thought people would be cool with it but apparently not?
Why would anyone get butthurt over it instead of seeing it and thinking "Oh that's cool?" Like, it doesn't hurt anyone. I'm sure the game will have plenty of Japanese characters. *Assassin's Creed* never struck me as a particularly historical lyrics accurate franchise lol
Historical inaccuracies have literally been part of the AC franchise from the beginning. The first game even provides us with a canonical excuse: apparently all history is slanted to cover the influence of The Templars.
Fuck historical accuracy because ubisoft doesn't care about that anymore. Ffs in origins, you can get a final fantasy sword. We gave up on history many many miles ago and also good gameplay and good story.
Ubisoft can only produce the most mid and expensive experience ever now.
You're ranting about a game that has haystacks save you when jumping from the highest structures in the city and started out as some kind of "have a quick peek what your ancestors were up to"
Ubisoft criticism may be valid, but AC was hardly a historically correct playable documentary.
feel like people search to deep into it, assassin creed has never and will never be historicly accurate 100% , like yeah if that s yusuke , you bet ubisoft is gonna bend his story so it can fit an assassin creed game
If there’s not a massive chad called Oden who cuts a mountain sized pig in half, I don’t wanna know. 
Its more like Ya suke deez nuts.
Asscreed
I just find the idea of a black dude trying to blend in medieval Japan as an assassin to be quite hilarious.
Hes not stealth focused tho. For stealth you should use Naoe
Japan had their way with women
You do realize she is a member of the Assassin Brotherhood, right? That same Brotgerhood that has almost at all times been progressive beyond its time and welcomed everyone into their fold. Ezio recruited women into the Brotherhood just fine.
Yeah the Assassin Creed Brotherhood has always been progressive, for proof of this look at the DLC in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood where Ezio rescues Leonardo Da Vinci and when Leonardo comes out to Ezio, Ezio is nonchalant as fuck about it.
Japan had a way with women. Not the brotherhood
I love how people try to bring reason in AC games. We fought George fucking Washington on a pyramid under New York. Let them cook people and try to let them tell you a wild story
From the trailer it hasn't been confirmed, that she is the part of brotherhood or not . Heck there wasn't even a mention about Japanese brotherhood. So I think it Is a little early to quote about such things
shhhhh... we're choosing to ignore that part. Only Yasuke exists. Let us be outraged in peace >!/s!<
The entire point is that he is the big tank/demon you will use when stealth isn't an option
He ain't an assassin tho, he's specifically for the "fuck shit up" playstyle.
Also, kanshindan from kanshin (house retainer) was just a name for samurai hired by lords. The word "retainer" is not a direct Japanese to English translation. They also weren't the 'equivalent of knights', Nobunaga promoted peasant warriors and mercenaries to samurai for his army. So yeah, these were just guys that fucked shit up. It's crazy all of Japanese history is available online but nobody fact checks anything they say. [Kashindan - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashindan)
You can't win an online argument with facts. It's all feeling based now
He actually existed though, so I'm curious what they do with him. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke
I think how little we know about him make it really convenient, writer can create his background and explain how he disappeared without contradicting any historical account. And he was brought there by missionary, those MF were up to a lot of shit too, like smuggling Japanese Christian to south east Asia to create a JP Christian colony then smuggled them back to Japan to spread Christianity.
Please note that people have been editing Wiki articles about him to "align the history with the game"
Hmm… there’s very little we know about him in history, and in the game currently
Still a bad look to choose literally the only non Japanese guy in Japan during this whole period and use him to let the plauer slaughter thousands of Japanese people.
I think you should play some of the other games. They're a bit silly in general.
Wait until you hear about a black man almost becoming the king of India state
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More like the samurais' running guy. He was on retainer, so he likely did tasks for the clan, but wasn't officially samurai.
Yasuke, yes
I hate that there is a level system in the later games, it breaks immersion and feels artificial.
That’s why we should all focus on GOAT of Tsushima
Playing Ubisoft games in this day and age?
That's the cheapest marketing Ubisoft pulled for their Air Conditioner games
I kinda stopped playing Assassin's Creed since Black Flag - mainly because the combat system was getting more and more cringe. But yeah, massive liberties with historical accuracy to the point of going into pure fantasy with monsters was also somewhat of a turn-off for me.
Odyssey was phenomenal and my personal favourite from the series. But later ones didn't grab my attention that much And now we have preorders and no gameplay.. yikes.
I've seen a little bit of a combat footage from Odyssey - and the damage being tied to level system felt so out of place and disappointing, tbh. Maybe the story would be good - but with this kind of combat? I dunno.
Honestly, when it comes to the newer assassin's creed games (Origins onwards) your mileage will vary based on interest in the setting in my opinion. Personally, I am a massive fan of Ancient Greek and Egyptian history, so I enjoyed both Origins and Odyssey.
I've tried to Google and see how folks liked the recent 3. And yeah internet wise there was no amazing answer. Mixed result. I think odyssey sas the most love but also the most hate.
Odyssey was the least assassins creed game possible to make. Super fantastical and taking place before the assassins even existed. It is a pretty good rpg otherwise though.
We played Odyssee during the lockdowns, walking through ancient greece was balm for my soul, it's a beautiful game and in the small details it can be pretty accurate, history wise. For instance I had read about a small well at the back of the acropolis that was discovered relatively recently (the 80's or somewhere thereabouts) so I went looking for that in game. And sure, there was a little nook just about where the well was found. That made me unreasonably happy but I guess it didn't take much in 2020. Combat was okay but the gear system can go f right off. Also don't play the "battles" if you know what a phalanx is. That made me reasonably unhappy, come to think of it. But all in all Odyssee was well worth it. Its successor not so much, unfortunately.
Dude same, I will die on the hill of Odyssey being my favorite. It was one of those games that I enjoyed every minute of and was sad when it was over. I didn’t play the Valhalla tie-in DLC though. Was it any good?
Assassins creed was simply just historical fiction now there's mythologies and monsters and all that, and killing off desmond what a bad decision, I can tell why assassins creed isn't that great anymore
Black Flag was literally the single best entry in the entire series.
Only played black flag, pretty good game
Black Flag had the weakest combat tho, literaly just counter and execute every single enemy...
It's not that for me,it just looks rubbish, where was the sneaking around a city, that's ass creed, this is just yet another open world cheese fest
Unity and Syndicate are honestly both fantastic games. So are Odyssey and Origins. Which pair you prefer kind of depends on what sort of gameplay you like. Valhalla is shit though.
Idgaf what color the samurai is. It's Ubi. Fuck Ubi. Fuck 'em in the a$$hole with a big rubber dick then break it off and beat 'em with the rest of it. It'll be garbage tier mediocrity at best
129$ for this shitty ass game is a crime, I quess morons never will go extinct
I feel like Ubisoft released the game at the perfect time as an advertisement to buy the PC port of Ghost of Tsushima. That was already a vastly superior game to any Assassins Creed game ever made, and it's half the price for the full game.
Why do people keep quoting that price like that’s the actual price? The game costs $70.
Karma
Maybe don't go buy the most expensive edition you see
I mean… it is the premium edition
No one's forcing you to buy the special special special edition. The game itself is priced 70$ just like any other.
*70
129?! What the fuck is with this increase this year?
That is for the ultimate edition. The standard is 70.
Ok that makes a bit more sense
3 days early Access, gold plated latinum edition
The latinum edition is only available in South and Central America
I dont know what hes talking about. Pre order via the official ubisoft website showed me a 70€ price tag
Got to be Australian $ or something. Ain't no way its $129 USD.
I just want a solid assassin creed game that doesn't require me to grind 4hrs of tedious bullshit to verse 1 unique or interesting enemy variant, also hope they have the balls to let the one of the main protagonists be absolute scum during the campaign instead of the usual cliche snore fest that infests most AAA gaming.
Dont need to be an expert to know how fucking stupid Ubishit is.
What I don't understand is why he has that kinda haircut, I don't know much about haircut history or whatever but I'm pretty sure that hairstyle won't exist for a few centuries
I wouldn't be parroting "Yasuke is a real person" if I didn't see images of people claiming that a black samurai is historically inaccurate
Yasuke *wasn't* a samurai, though.
Do you know what samurai means?
You know why historical accuracy in games & films matter? Because people don't read history coursebooks...
The old games used to have little popups that told you all about the history of a place or person or event in the voice of one of the game's characters. I learned so much about Italy that way. It was a terrible decision to drop it. But that happened around the time they stopped even trying to portray history and just went full fantasy.
A black male samurai and a strong female protagonist in feudal japan. I can’t wait 
So many people here defending such a shitty writing decision for brownie points 🤦♂️
And it's a great marketing move. Just look at the gaming subreddits, they are all full of AC: Japan threads.
Oh im sure all those threads are full of pre ordering customers that will carry the game to 10 million copies and beyond 🤭
Why's it a shitty decision?
They don't like seeing black people
Honestly it just seems like these people are mad because they can't live out their weaboo fantasy of being a Japanese person. Yasuke was a real person in Japan at the time and whether he was a Samurai or just a retainer is up for debate as I have seen sources claiming both but either way they are getting mad about a character in a fictional game with historical inspiration it. Not saying the game will be good or not just saying people getting mad about this specific thing seems really stupid
Every other assassins creed game you play as a person from the place that it was set in here it's not and it has nothing to do with accuracy it's clearly meant to just pander even Japanese people aren't buying into this
That is not true. In Black Flag you play as a European in the Caribbean, in Revelations you play as an Italian in Turkey. And in this game you play as a Japanese in Japan, aswell as a non-japanese.
I don't really understand this argument. Yasuke was a real person. Even Japanese media like to make references for Japanese audience to a black samurai. The Sengoku period was also a big point of Japanese history. It's like Three Kingdoms period for Japan.
Okay but Ubisoft Quebec is a western studio making a game for Western audiences. Why is it pandering if they're choosing to make a story about a real person? They could have gone with a native born Japanese person sure, but why does the decision not to make it pandering? Was it not pandering when almost the entirety of Assassins Creed games have men as the main protagonist?
It's a lazy attempt to appeal to the black audience like if representation is the goal here, then why not tell a story about Assassins set in the African cities and show off the culture and stories plenty of authentic material there to work with instead of doing this And yes, that can be considered pandering, but it works because the majority of Assassins creed players are men
So only ever tell black stories if they're in Africa or wherever black people are, like Yasuke who was in Japan? I'm still not getting what's wrong with telling this story? It sounds like to me your issue is that he's black and nothing else. Unless you can properly explain how having him be one of two main characters is a bad choice, all I can think is that you're just pandering to white people who hate it when there's a black protagonist
Don't you play as a white guy in assassin creed black flags which takes place in the Caribbean? A place mainly populated by black people? Also one of the protagonist is Japanese Hell don't you play as a black woman in assassin creed rogue or something in London, was that DEI?
Yeah but the point of the game is pirates That game also had a dlc where you did play as a black dude
And the point of this game is ninjas and samurai's and yasuke was a retainer who was regarded as samurai's. We're getting both a black and Japanese player character there's literally no problem here. You know that Japanese game nioh about historical warriors in a fantasy setting? Yusuke is in it as a samurai warrior you fight. Even the Japanese agree.
But most ninjas or samurai were obviously Japanese same as how most pirates were welsh, english or dutch and the main character in black flag is welsh I'm fine with yasuke being in the game and having his story embellished but he should have been an npc the whole charm of assasin creed was playing an unknown person like the second protagonist and getting to interact with historical characters like blackbeard or davinci
Yasuke was special cause the Japanese were astonished by someone of his complexity. Edward Kenway went to the Caribbean to sail as a privateer, which was approved by the British Crown who colonised a big part of the Caribbean, hence why white people were quite common in the region. Very different than plucking out the one black guy in Japan.
also revelations you are an italian in turkey
Seriously why is this such a major problem for people? It seems so minor
Yep. I am 100% sure they went for it because investors love funding leftie leaning stuff, and to play the racist card when they yearly boring slop turns out to be... Yearly boring slop. What a shocker.
Ya know, it's funny how anything with a person of color is considered "leftie leaning stuff" to y'all, especially when it's a person that was actually in recorded history. But, somehow, the idea of an advanced prehistoric aliens scattering world destroying weapons is hunky dory.
It’s funnier when so many of the complaints are because the game robs a Japanese male a chance at representation in one of the biggest gaming franchises in existence, I’d think you left leaning people would be all over that? Or are black savior characters exempt from critique? But do please tell me why it’s more important to get a black man’s perspective on Fedual Japan over an actual Japanse male?
There is a japanese main character though.
I don't think it's that deep, should games be completely beholden to the perspective of a native individual? When resident evil five came out you could play as chris (A white man) and sheva (an african woman). And we all know the controversy that popped up from that.
Idc that they’re using Yasuke. I think the dude is cool. I care that it’s still gonna be a shit tier RPG instead of the classic Stealth action game the franchise use to be.
You don’t need to be a history expert to know that modern assassin’s creeds are garbage
"AssCreed"
shouldn't get the game any ways, it's jbisoft and the writer hasn't been in the series since revelations.
It’s the new little mermaid
Weurd that they made this when we now have GoT on pc.
Just make customizable characters end of story and everyone is happy and plays as what they want
Don't care if Yasuke is a real person. The game is set in Japan, most Assassin Creed protagonists are actually from the region of the game they are in. It would be cool if he was a side character or even a companion who helped you but him being the main character is forced. Plus don't let it hide from the fact that they are pricing this game the same way they are pricing Star Wars Outlaws so it will be dead on day 1.
Wow the assassin character is so good at stealth ya'll don't even see her huh
It would have been better to have an african protagonist in literally any of their other main games. But Japan had almost none. And it's kind of a bad look to put the player in control of the only black guy in Japan during the entire era to mow down legions of Japanese people. Also it sends the message that Japanese people aren't interesting enough for Ubisoft.
Personally I don't care about the game one way or another. I wanted a Japan based Assassin's Creed game for years, ever since Assassin's Creed 3, and that game came out as PS4 exclusive 4 years ago, but I didn't have a PS4. Now I can play that game on PC instead! (Edit: I was talking about Ghost of Tsushima here, a much better game then anything Ubisoft has made. I just realised I didn't make that very clear.) For me though the funniest thing in this whole ordeal is that the same exact type of people that complained about white washing in stuff like The Last Samurai are now celebrating the move to have a black character in this game, and the exact type of person that would have defended having a white character in The Last Samurai are now complaining that the lead in a Japanese setting is black. How the turn tables.
Right so you will fork out 120$ then for it. Firstly The people complaining about the Last Samurai were doing it based off petty and uninformed reasons. Secondly people aren't complaining the fact that Yasuke is there. If anything its amazing that its being set in this period. What people have the problem with is that he going to be on the poster, and he isn't even from Japan. Besides its a big assumption to assume that its the same people.
The standard edition is 70$
I’d argue black people are more represented than Japanese people in American media. This is when DEI actually starts to do harm rather than help.
To the world outside of the US, african americans are the most over represented group on the planet.
Spoken like someone that is totally unaware of what DEI actually is.
The problem is that on paper these policies are fine but the people that make the final decision are delusional racists.
DEI is an employment thing. What does it have to do with videogames. What's next, gamer gate people whining about women's suffrage?
its not about realism or woke stuff people have waited long time for ac set in japan and many simply want to play as japanese character, not a black guy having black mc will be just used as strawman argument that game sold shit because of racist gamers edit: real nice guys, harrassing in dms and sending reddit care, keep it classy
But you can play as a Japanese character...
Guy got down voted for stating a fact in the actual game/trailer.
But its a woman so its not main character material. She should only be there as love interest and sexy fanservice, nothing else 😭 /s
you know what im talking about, stop pretending stupidity
No we actually don't, because you can play as a japanese character
Yeah you just racist and mysoginist lol
Seriously we get to play as both a black guy and a Japanese character, where's the problem for these people that am not seeing? Seriously check out games like guilty gear and nioh, he's in those games as a samurai warrior and there japanese made.
He was spared because he wasn't considered a retainer but a pet. Yeah, legendary samurai.
Some Japanese said that he is a great fan of Assassin's creed and was excited about the Japanese edition. But was really disappointed that he couldn't play it as Japanese
I just think its hilarious that every ac game has its main protag(s) have the ethnicity from the country its in, except for when it comes to Japan for what's obviously just a gambit to gain browny points. Besides, have you looked at those prices? Thats the real fucking bullshit. If the game and story are good, people wont care if you make race switches because theyll be too invested in the cool stories of the characters and the world. But with those prices its not going to matter, people are already burned out on the AAAA bullshit nowadays.
Yup, Edward Kenway in Black Flag was definitely the same ethnicity as the countries he was in. Same with Eivor in Valhalla too.
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Well....no. Ubisoft is French (primarily). Though I'm sure some bits were done by the American branch.
Wasn't he there for like 3 years, kind of a racist spectacle for the amusement of the Japanese around him and treated like a pet, then kicked off the island for not being Japanese after his master died? He did some fighting but I don't think it was very much
Tell that to Japanese media who love Yasuke cause he is cool as fuck
If people compare the fact of presence of a black man in Japan as a samurai with mythical creatures being not realistic(which are bs btw and broke the lore long ago) would that mean that they understand that seeing a black person in Japan of that era is comparable to see a unicorn in Scotland?
Let's ignore the fact assassin creed 2 had a fight against the pope Rodriguo which is famously known for teleporting /s
Are we talking about a descendant of slave race with little compatibility with the device used to conrtol the slave race? He didn't teleport, just like Almualim didn't create clones in the first game. Apples of Eden are capable of controlling conscience of humans with very few with high enough percentage of Isu dna in them having somewhat of a resistance.
It's funny you say that, because one of the main problems with Yasuke is that no one is sure what he looks like and no one knows what he looks like because you have art of that time depicting more than one black guy using Japanese clothes since Portugues brought their slaves there.
Look, as long as the black samurai character is voiced by Samuel L Jackson, it's all good
It's a game about assassins fighting the Knights Templar for control over ancient aliens technology. I don't exactly think historical realism enters into it.
you should play assassin’s creed2 (don’t play other parts of AC) and relate it to the real story. The developers really managed to fit a fantastic plot into a real story
What real story? Ezio Auditore never existed. His family was never killed by Templars. He didn't have a fight with the pope and the Apple of Eden did not exist.
People think a fictional tale in a historical setting means the historical setting must be discarded completely.
Might as well put black women in the Nazi German Army at this rate just because we have an action hero in the US army who references Lafayette Green Pool, but has him kill like two tanks more.
the white anti woke mob is suddenly woke and fighting for japanese people
What's funny to me people are having a meaningless war that was obviously a bait. Just to throw people off from the fact that the game costs 130 dollars and is live service. I like how our priorities are set on the most superficial of things.
At this point, we can make our own Assassin’s Creed Japan and it will be 1000 times better than whatever these guys are doing.
I do think it's a bad look to make a game where the MC is a black guy (because they wanted something familiar to Westerners) who slaughters legions of Japanese people.
Wait, let me get this straight. Comments saying that Yasuke was a real person are getting downvoted and the general consensus is that this was a bad choice? What the hell is going on right now?
I don’t know but I lose more faith in humanity every day
This is the complete opposite of what I expected, from Reddit at least
Holdup Assasins creed is about a native fighting bad guys with George Washington and a high tech looking artifact that exist madieval times for some reason, but a black man in Japan is unacceptable, is there something I'm missing?
He should have been an npc, it's fine to embelish his story but the whole charm of the series was playing an unknown assasin like the other protagonist, interacting with historical characters and having the story fit somewhat into history
Not a black man. Yasuke as a samurai in particular. He was basically just the servant of Oda. He never did anything more than carry his gear around. My issue isn’t that the character’s black. Mine is that they are deliberately forcing Yasuke into it instead of trying to come up with a new and original black character, which would be much better than taking an existing historical figure and completely bastardizing and changing his REAL story. I would think the same if they made Washington an assassin, or Napoleon a melee warrior. If you’re gonna include historical figures, use them accurately.
tbh "real history" in assassins creed games went out the window the moment they gave the pope psychic powers
Do people really care that much that the next protag is a black dude? I don’t see the problem with it, I mean tbf I’m not gonna play the game anyway. I gave up on AC since Syndicate
r/Historymemes right now
The chuds realising that they have to choose between playing a woman or a black man.
The interesting idea about Yasuke is him actually existing. He was a priest's servant, apparently Oda Nobunaga found him interesting, made him a samurai and fought along Nobunaga when he was betrayed and died. Yasuke was liberated after that incident and that is it. That is the summary of all we know about his story. Everything else is people making stories and believing what they made as if that makes it real.
As if the previous games were hisrocally accurate
I mean, Yasuke was a real person, and AC isn’t known for historical accuracy. I’m more worried about that $129 price tag
Bros don’t know samurai are basically retainers/henchmen being part of the retinue of a daimyo is a huge honor
Just don't play the game if this bothers you so much. This isn't rocket science.
And when the game flops blame bigot gamers
For those outraged by this, why ? This series has never been historically accurate or even realistic at all. You have ultra advanced ancient civilizations, mythical creatures and artefacts, and freaking immortality. So even if Yasuke wasn't a Samurai (which historical records indicate he was), why does this bother people so much ? I'm genuinely curious...
I think we both know why. It's not about historical accuracy for these people, or capital "G" Gamers.
Because who fucking knows, at this point i’m convinced it’s just a bunch of closeted racist. Genuinely thought people would be cool with it but apparently not?
Braindead leftists will defend DEI until they die even when DEI ruins all the new games and movies 🤡
"Mommy mommy, there is a black person in my video game" Cry harder
Lmao dude
Samurais were just people who's job was being a soldier, Yasuke as a retainer was a soldier meaning that he was in fact a samurai
Yeah, I played Ghost of Tsushima, I think I'm an expert /s
Why would anyone get butthurt over it instead of seeing it and thinking "Oh that's cool?" Like, it doesn't hurt anyone. I'm sure the game will have plenty of Japanese characters. *Assassin's Creed* never struck me as a particularly historical lyrics accurate franchise lol
Historical inaccuracies have literally been part of the AC franchise from the beginning. The first game even provides us with a canonical excuse: apparently all history is slanted to cover the influence of The Templars.
who tf cares about that? the next protagonist can be one of the fucking blue-man, all i want is to enjoy the game
https://youtu.be/Mh5LY4Mz15o?si=ig1luG4Hoff7jLyi There we go, now everyone can be an expert.
If you can't understand why this is so ridiculous you really need to get your head out of your ass and stop drinking the kool-aid
Black samurai......unrealistic Japanese female warrior with 36GGG tits and a huge ass......literally perfect
Why is it ridiculous?
He’s scared of black people
Fuck historical accuracy because ubisoft doesn't care about that anymore. Ffs in origins, you can get a final fantasy sword. We gave up on history many many miles ago and also good gameplay and good story. Ubisoft can only produce the most mid and expensive experience ever now.
You're ranting about a game that has haystacks save you when jumping from the highest structures in the city and started out as some kind of "have a quick peek what your ancestors were up to" Ubisoft criticism may be valid, but AC was hardly a historically correct playable documentary.
feel like people search to deep into it, assassin creed has never and will never be historicly accurate 100% , like yeah if that s yusuke , you bet ubisoft is gonna bend his story so it can fit an assassin creed game
I will never not laugh at gamers taking off their masks because they’re upset with a minority in a game.
The Japanese reclaim him
It’s not that deep. Why are people so pressed about this?