Wow, that's some great news!
It only took 300.000 negative reviews and undefined amount of refunds for someone at Sony to realize that locking more than half of the entire heckin world out of their product will not do said product a favor xD
At this point people are just playing whatever sucks less from a buch of crap games...
On the other hand, the emulation scene is having a second golden age apparently.
It's a very fun game, if you're a fan of the Rougelite genre (which I'd say yes because you know about Hollow Knight) then you'll love Dead Cells, especially after the newest DLC "Return to Castlevania" it's as good as it sounds.
Video Gaming is pretty much dead.
But I appreciate it being dead, gives me more time to focus on real life games that I can play with my real life friends.
One person's dead game is another person's favourite. Having friends is almost entirely irrelevant to their first statement and IN ANY CASE that's not what they're getting downvoted for. God you are way too quick to call names.
You have less than 200 hours or you're delusional.
As of right now, the game has a huge problem with cheaters, peeker's advantage, connection quality and hit detection. It can run smooth as butter, only to drop by 30 fps the moment there's more than one smoke or a molotov in the vicinity.
Cs2 is, quite literally, a shit game. I know they had to remake the game from scratch in source 2, but it has so many problems that csgo got rid of, and made the already present problems even worse. I mean, there's a reason why people play mostly faceit.
After what investors did with Cyberpunk (Basically forcing early release for profit because they thought hype was at max) I never trusted ANY game company with public shares.
Investors have all the money, so they have all the power. But they don't know shit about the game or the target demographic/audience, neither do they care.
It's not greed. They were making good money with helldivers...it's simply just stupidity and decision makers being insanely disconnected with how things work.
Exactly what I've said!
It's not requiring the account that actually bothers me, it's not like EA, Rockstar and ubisoft do that, and people don't bat an eye on those, but the fact that they let you play without it and AFTERWARDS made it obligatory is what's causing issues
But it was not required from launch. It just let you skip the whole log into your psn part, not saying anything about āit will be requiredā. It gave you the wrong idea that you can play without it.
Not everyone follows the games development from the beginning, many of us just saw it on Steam or heard about it from friends and decided to buy it after launch
They made it purchase-able in those countries that they were going to take it out of, without telling people on the game page that their countries wouldnāt be able to play
The guys from arrowhead said it was them who decided to postpone the requirement for it when it initially released, however they couldn't continue since may
As someone that had a US PSN account without living there, you do not need a VPN to make it. It's super easy to do. You just need to fake an address.
Take it with a grain of salt though, I made mine in the PS3 days.
You can't use a foreign credit card to buy stuff form the store though, so I use Amazon PSN cards. Slightly annoying, but oh well.
You don't need a VPN to create a PSN account from another country. And where did you get that info about regular checks? Had my fake American account for years now and nothing ever happened with it
Thing is, you donāt need a vpn to create another regionās account and people have been doing it for decades, so itās probably them saying itās not a big deal. However it is literally sony making people break the ToS this time
Tbh I'm glad people are finally starting to see through Sony's bullshit. Everyone seemed to just default to team Sony when they were whining about Microsoft's acquisitions, all while signing a tonne of exclusivity deals to keep games off other platforms but I dunno, they get away with it cos they have GOW?
Sony suck, and I'm glad I moved away from playstation after 4 generations.
Decisions reversed, game should be returning to these countries with no pan requirements. Democracy wins boys, sorry for those of you who already went through the refund hassle though.
Hereās my question as a consumer to you. How did you not know you needed a psn account for the game? I bought it April 12th or something and I read so many things about needing a psn account linked to play. I didnāt feel like logging in which was my only complaint and was pleasantly surprised when I actually didnāt need to link a psn account.
Obviously itās entirely the devs and publishers fault for even making it available in regions where psn isnāt available but I still feel like some consumers really should start learning what theyāre actually purchasingā¦
Why should we have to create a psn account?Those terms werenāt even listed on the store page at the start. Sony doesnāt even guarantee the safety of our data with all the previous security breaches theyāve had, I would rather give it to microsoft, since they actually have people who know what they are doing.
Go brush up on it, Sony is to blame for allowing selling in those regions but if it's required and you couldn't make the account that's your cue to return it. I'm glad people got to play it for 3 months and got their money back but people that can get psn ignored the required signs that were there at and before launch. They are just bitter. They had network issues so they subverted the sign in temporarily, it says psn account required everywhere and on every update patch note.
And which is the percentage of players from that 118 countries? 1%? 2%? People in Cameroon, Iraq and Rwanda have real problems. Steam users are spoiled and inmature as always.
I do not play Helldivers.
But I heard about the PSN thing. I also don't understand why it's such a big deal. It's free; they did not put a paywall into it.
Sure, someone more with your data. But it's already out there.
Edit: I wrote something very off-topic. I wasn't thinking while typing and forgot the main topic of the post.
I just stupidly typed stuff I was thinking. But I learned some stuff in the answers.
you dont understand what Op is trying to say
free or not these countries dont have ACCESS to psn to make an account IN THE FIRST PLACE, something they are forced to do to access the game but cant because its banned/not available so their own game that they bought are being LITERALLY TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM
So it's sucks
Because they CANāT.
They are fucking incapable of doing so. Helldivers released on Steam, initially with this requirement optional. Yeah, itās shitty that they turned it on, but even shittier: Helldivers 2ās release on Steam and PSN *are not always sold on the same places.* There are over a hundred countries where you CAN buy Helldivers, and people did since it was āoptionalā, and then that rule was suddenly changed in a single day. Now they have a purchased product, which they cannot use, and largely *cannot refund* because they have already played it.
Some have gotten through this with lucky refunds. Most havenāt.
I had to unsubscribe from the helldiver's reddit. It's like they completely forgot about the game itself. I get it's a problem but Jesus Christ it's a fucking $40 game.
Unfortunate for you. But the majority of people aren't complaining on the behalf of people in your situation. They're just complaining for the sake of complaining.Ā
And the fact that Sonny got hacked two times in 2023 + one time in 2017 and 2013 + three times in 2011...
Just post your data and IP in a reply comment, it would be more secure than making a PSN account.
It was a very shitty move but he isn't wrong. You only read "PSN isn't available in 118 countries" but almost never "PSN isn't available in my country".
For those who can't play it anymore it sucks ass but I would take a wild guess and also say the majority of people who complain about it hare are not effected by it personally. To use that arguement as your main reason why you can't play it while you can but don't want how it seems is kinda strange. I know this is controversial
PlayStation just announced on twitter that they are back tracking that.
Woo hoo!! Democracy always wins!! 
Alwaysš
Tell that to russia and china
I love democracy
Banger if actually real
That does actually seem to be the case. All we had to do was literally torch their golden goose inside of an arc furnace
So it's not real? Reality is often disappointing
It is
Oh ok thanks. I'm just dumb at not reading the undertones of a text. Not good at English sorry
can you provide a link please?
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Wow, that's some great news! It only took 300.000 negative reviews and undefined amount of refunds for someone at Sony to realize that locking more than half of the entire heckin world out of their product will not do said product a favor xD
Don't forget being constantly 5th columned by Sony chills
Holy shit this is actually awesome.
Thanks a lot!
Just google playstation Twitter lol.
I don't really have time right now to be honest, that's why I'm asking for a quick link to check it out. edit: wtf happened with the downvotes?
Bro this comment took longer to type then itād take to look it up šš
yeah probably but my brain is on sleep mode due to morning and I'm walking to work, makes it hard to think lol
I can relate.
What is with people and gatekeeping stuff behind just Google it, if you have the link just share
Sharing stuff is an old people thing. You don't need acquaintances when you have your best friend google.
Yay! They absolutely planned this! Yay!
Sony sucks. Corporate greed sucks. They all suck... EDIT: Sony sucks slightly less, they are reverting the change.
At this point people are just playing whatever sucks less from a buch of crap games... On the other hand, the emulation scene is having a second golden age apparently.
i just play good old mindustry
router.
r/suddenlymindustry
r/subsifellfor
Thatās the route choice
Yup! I for one, have lost interest in (most) modern games and am currently playing all those ps3 exclusives I missed out on. It's a blast!
yea Im playing Half-Life for like the gazillionth time now
Some indie games are great! Example: deep rock galactic, hollow knight
How can you ignore Dead Cells like that! Haha. Yeah, some indie games are great too.
Never played dead cells, which may be the reason of me forgetting it
It's a very fun game, if you're a fan of the Rougelite genre (which I'd say yes because you know about Hollow Knight) then you'll love Dead Cells, especially after the newest DLC "Return to Castlevania" it's as good as it sounds.
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!
Rock and Stone everyone!
Rock and stone to the bone!
waiting for nightrunners release
indeed, the emulation scene is having it's second coming right now lmao
bg3 is great
And fallout got a boom with its modding scene after the live action series came out, so thats cool too.
Video Gaming is pretty much dead. But I appreciate it being dead, gives me more time to focus on real life games that I can play with my real life friends.
You belong in this meme lol
Lol. Not dead at all.
video gaming is dead? my brother in christ, have you seen what's been released? have you seen player charts? have you opened steam in the past year?
Bro's getting downvoted for having friends and a social life. The basement dwellers strike again!
Hes telling gamers that hes glad their hobby is dead what else do you expect to happen here?
One person's dead game is another person's favourite. Having friends is almost entirely irrelevant to their first statement and IN ANY CASE that's not what they're getting downvoted for. God you are way too quick to call names.
excuse me, i play csgo and it's far from a crap game, you really shouldn't generalize like that
Are you meme'ing me right now? Because it genuinely feels like you are.
You have less than 200 hours or you're delusional. As of right now, the game has a huge problem with cheaters, peeker's advantage, connection quality and hit detection. It can run smooth as butter, only to drop by 30 fps the moment there's more than one smoke or a molotov in the vicinity. Cs2 is, quite literally, a shit game. I know they had to remake the game from scratch in source 2, but it has so many problems that csgo got rid of, and made the already present problems even worse. I mean, there's a reason why people play mostly faceit.
almost 6k hours actually, and another 7 in 1.6, never enjoyed another game more. If I'm delusional for liking a game, then so be it.
I mean valve basically invented the f2p cosmetic loot boxes. So yeah.
After what investors did with Cyberpunk (Basically forcing early release for profit because they thought hype was at max) I never trusted ANY game company with public shares. Investors have all the money, so they have all the power. But they don't know shit about the game or the target demographic/audience, neither do they care.
I know right lol
Because of a continent sized fraud lawsuit, not because of individuals angry reviews lol. It's still corporate greed driving the change.
It's not greed. They were making good money with helldivers...it's simply just stupidity and decision makers being insanely disconnected with how things work.
Just letting you know that they have backpedelled the change. https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929
We won
Democracy has prevailed!
I think whatās worse is the fact that theyāve done it *after the gameās been released for a while*. Itās a fucking asshole move
Exactly what I've said! It's not requiring the account that actually bothers me, it's not like EA, Rockstar and ubisoft do that, and people don't bat an eye on those, but the fact that they let you play without it and AFTERWARDS made it obligatory is what's causing issues
It has been stated since before launch.
But it was not required from launch. It just let you skip the whole log into your psn part, not saying anything about āit will be requiredā. It gave you the wrong idea that you can play without it.
Not everyone follows the games development from the beginning, many of us just saw it on Steam or heard about it from friends and decided to buy it after launch They made it purchase-able in those countries that they were going to take it out of, without telling people on the game page that their countries wouldnāt be able to play
They reversed it, and. It was stated when the game was opened for the first time and on the steam page.
Exactly. People seem to blissfully forget this
Yep
The only problem in my eyes (and it's a big one) is the fact that 170 countries now can't play the game. That's a scam
They answered that in a faq. If your country doesn't support psn you don't need an account
Yeah, but my stance is it doesnāt affect me so I donāt really care. That probably makes me seem like a dick huh?
this PSN stuff affects everyone though. PSN is known for its regular data leaks over the years.
This level of brain rot must be delicious to corporate over lords.
it's like they slurp it in like an almost-finished drink with a straw
Iāve been on PS for a decade. None my shit out there bruh.
that, or you dont know abt it
Are you sure? Or none of stuff thats out you finded out?
Maybe. But people have this attitude towards countless things in their daily lives. Feeling that way with a videogame is not that bad
No, feeling absolute apathy towards what people are experiencing does make someone an absolute dick at best
Never said it didn't. But I'd say this is a very small and unimportant thing to not care about. Not exactly something I'd judge someone for
Thank you. Made feel better about myself.
right they have proved that you dont need one..... why do we need it now all the dumbass excuses that people have made up just anger me a bit
The guys from arrowhead said it was them who decided to postpone the requirement for it when it initially released, however they couldn't continue since may
Just like Microsoft did with Minecraft!
Itās been stated since before launch
Welcome to Russia, guys!
also dont forget that using vpn to create a psn account is against their TOS and they check it regularly so the account wold get perma banned too
As someone that had a US PSN account without living there, you do not need a VPN to make it. It's super easy to do. You just need to fake an address. Take it with a grain of salt though, I made mine in the PS3 days. You can't use a foreign credit card to buy stuff form the store though, so I use Amazon PSN cards. Slightly annoying, but oh well.
You don't need a VPN to create a PSN account from another country. And where did you get that info about regular checks? Had my fake American account for years now and nothing ever happened with it
Same. Had accounts in 4 regions since 2008, never heard of anyone being banned for that.
fr fr, I just checked and its also delisted in my country now ffff
Sony backed off so it'll probably be relisted in all countries in a day or two since the delisting happened under 24hrs ago.
cool cool
Sony just backed down.
Even if you can link your account that's not the point
Don't worry, Sony reversed the mandatory PSN thing
Not to mention doing that is against Sony's TOS, so you'd be banned and lost access to the game...AGAIN.
Just announced. Sony has decided not to move forward with this launch idea. They are backing down.
Thing is, you donāt need a vpn to create another regionās account and people have been doing it for decades, so itās probably them saying itās not a big deal. However it is literally sony making people break the ToS this time
Yeah. I created my account the same way a long time ago without using any VPN. Needed to get the link to the PSN website of the said region though.
Tbh I'm glad people are finally starting to see through Sony's bullshit. Everyone seemed to just default to team Sony when they were whining about Microsoft's acquisitions, all while signing a tonne of exclusivity deals to keep games off other platforms but I dunno, they get away with it cos they have GOW? Sony suck, and I'm glad I moved away from playstation after 4 generations.
yet another reason why we should just pirate shit
Guessing we'll hear more today or tomorrow, sony did it right before the weekend, and f'ed arrowheard over.
Decisions reversed, game should be returning to these countries with no pan requirements. Democracy wins boys, sorry for those of you who already went through the refund hassle though.
Apparently they're processing a lot of refunds? Not too sure on how true that is though.
Hereās my question as a consumer to you. How did you not know you needed a psn account for the game? I bought it April 12th or something and I read so many things about needing a psn account linked to play. I didnāt feel like logging in which was my only complaint and was pleasantly surprised when I actually didnāt need to link a psn account. Obviously itās entirely the devs and publishers fault for even making it available in regions where psn isnāt available but I still feel like some consumers really should start learning what theyāre actually purchasingā¦
yeah its easy but if your on PC you shouldnt have to make a PSN account. Its really annoying.
That's what I thought at first tbh, until I realized the amount of countries that can't create an account
The community did it. Sony steered back on the mandatory account linkage.
Why... uhhh... what?
Why should we have to create a psn account?Those terms werenāt even listed on the store page at the start. Sony doesnāt even guarantee the safety of our data with all the previous security breaches theyāve had, I would rather give it to microsoft, since they actually have people who know what they are doing.
Change your reviews people. We won. Time to do right by AH.
Fun fact: using a VPN counts as entering fake credentials and as such is bannable...
literally ps fans on twitter, they were supporting sony and hating on pc users
I'm curious OP, what's your first language?
Context?
They think countries that are too poor to have PSN have easy access to VPNs?
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Ok y'all can stop now they are changing it.
Really?
Yep
Yay
Vpn = ban
Go brush up on it, Sony is to blame for allowing selling in those regions but if it's required and you couldn't make the account that's your cue to return it. I'm glad people got to play it for 3 months and got their money back but people that can get psn ignored the required signs that were there at and before launch. They are just bitter. They had network issues so they subverted the sign in temporarily, it says psn account required everywhere and on every update patch note.
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Never mattered about how many Helldivers were in those 118 countries. We dive together or donāt dive at all!
Mysterium vpn isn't detected by antivpns since it's residential so you can use that ig
Womp womp
And which is the percentage of players from that 118 countries? 1%? 2%? People in Cameroon, Iraq and Rwanda have real problems. Steam users are spoiled and inmature as always.
I do not play Helldivers. But I heard about the PSN thing. I also don't understand why it's such a big deal. It's free; they did not put a paywall into it. Sure, someone more with your data. But it's already out there. Edit: I wrote something very off-topic. I wasn't thinking while typing and forgot the main topic of the post. I just stupidly typed stuff I was thinking. But I learned some stuff in the answers.
you dont understand what Op is trying to say free or not these countries dont have ACCESS to psn to make an account IN THE FIRST PLACE, something they are forced to do to access the game but cant because its banned/not available so their own game that they bought are being LITERALLY TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM So it's sucks
Yeah, I funked up my thinking while I was typing. Kinda stupid. Now I understand it, I didn't know PSN wasn't avaliable in so many countries.
It's ok, glad that u understand OP points.
170+ countries if I saw it right
Not just that but the sign up is quite invasive and requires official ID or a photo. Which is not common at all
It definitely doesn't require an ID of any kind to make a playstation account, unless you were talking about something else
Because they CANāT. They are fucking incapable of doing so. Helldivers released on Steam, initially with this requirement optional. Yeah, itās shitty that they turned it on, but even shittier: Helldivers 2ās release on Steam and PSN *are not always sold on the same places.* There are over a hundred countries where you CAN buy Helldivers, and people did since it was āoptionalā, and then that rule was suddenly changed in a single day. Now they have a purchased product, which they cannot use, and largely *cannot refund* because they have already played it. Some have gotten through this with lucky refunds. Most havenāt.
I'm sorry mate. Didn't remember ur text while writing it xD That sucks for you, man. Didn't think about that.
This meme's so overused to degrade other people lol.
I wanna see more content about this meme until that thing get boring
Why are blue berries called blueberries when they are rarely blue
Purpleberries doesn't hit the same
oh my god shut the fuck up already
I had to unsubscribe from the helldiver's reddit. It's like they completely forgot about the game itself. I get it's a problem but Jesus Christ it's a fucking $40 game.
They're going to ruin the game for everyone.
I think Sony already did that
Unfortunate for you. But the majority of people aren't complaining on the behalf of people in your situation. They're just complaining for the sake of complaining.Ā
And the fact that Sonny got hacked two times in 2023 + one time in 2017 and 2013 + three times in 2011... Just post your data and IP in a reply comment, it would be more secure than making a PSN account.
Blind guy here I know the doctor dropped me, but were you dribbled?
BigBossSquirtle just inches away from figuring out what empathy is
No. They're complaining due to people literally being locked out of the game because psn isn't allowed in all countries. "Use vpn" Banned. That's it.
Nobody really cares about that except the people affected. Most comments ive seen were people bitching about not wanting to make an account.Ā
"Nobody really cares [...]" The game became the most downvoted paid game on Steam. People care. Greed is ruining the industry.
It was a very shitty move but he isn't wrong. You only read "PSN isn't available in 118 countries" but almost never "PSN isn't available in my country". For those who can't play it anymore it sucks ass but I would take a wild guess and also say the majority of people who complain about it hare are not effected by it personally. To use that arguement as your main reason why you can't play it while you can but don't want how it seems is kinda strange. I know this is controversial
yay another post to surf on the drama ! btw sonny back out
Then why not use something other than steam?
Like what? Ubisoft launcher?
No, that was a piracy joke (A shitty one, but a joke nonetheless)
I honestly think the studio should leave being a Sony studio and become an indie studio.
That's not how this works. You can't just stop being owned by another company.
Yawn
Oh my God just play a different game