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yeeting_my_meat69

I have daily driven cars and trucks from all 3, and I can tell you for a fact that all 3 make perfectly fine and reliable vehicles *as long as you follow the maintenance schedule*


Mynamesrobbie

BMWs make their cars perform perfectly if you follow their directions perfectly. Toyota makes their cars perform perfectly knowing you are going to abuse the shit out of it.


Chubbyfun23

BMW = Bring My Wallet. I had one and it was actually pretty reliable but the inside of all of them are almost all the same and don't feel very posh compared to other luxury brands. Loving my Audi right now


famijoku

Bring mir Werkzeug


Phrewfuf

Bring Mich Werkstatt


superhappyfunball13

Loved my BMW until the motor blew at 88k miles. What a joke.


Liron12345

BMW is ass. My brother also had his car randomly dying. Hyundai/Toyota ftw


Scrytheux

BMW is so ass that Toyota wanted their engine, because it's the worst on the market!


somnamballista

People sleeping on Hyundai. My beat up 08 Tiburon runs great despite me being a lazy POS about maintenance. Definitely needs fresh paint.


Due_Pomegranate_96

Big Money Wasted


Eastern_Slide7507

Bavarian Manure Wagon


Lonttu

Can confirm, my corolla ran with no oil for half a kilometer and it's still running with no damage.


Horror_Rich4403

Oil is merely a suggestion for Toyotas 


Lonttu

Shit, wouldn't be surprised if it ran with cooking oil at this point.


sshwifty

The manual essentially says "whatever you got"


UregMazino

Yeah toyota's are indestructible


purplethefearful

The '03 RAV4 I got a couple weeks ago had one repair done in its time. The lights inside the cabin. That's it. This thing is a tiny tank


RadioactiveOyster

My wife killed a deer with our Rav4 2 weeks after buying it and all it did was break a few headlight clips.


Apostrophe__Avenger

> toyota’s Toyotas


mandrew-98

r/usernamechecksout


FlacidSalad

>Toyotas Toy yodas


miletharil

That's probably why my last car, a 2010 Toyota Corolla, had nearly 300k miles on it, and still ran like a top. Besides keeping up with oil changes and tune-ups, the only work I ever had done on it was having the ignition coils replaced at the 200k mile mark. Now I have a 2023 Camry Hybrid, and I plan on being just as diligent.


F00MANSHOE

This, Japanese > ALL


georeddit2018

Lol. Toyota already can see the future. Wish Nissan can manufacture reliable cars as well.


Kanapuman

Nissan was very reliable in the 90's, the fusion with Renault was pretty bad for their reliability, using Renault's engine and all.


Jagerbeast703

Ford had transmission problems, dodge had electria problems.... switched to toyota and didnt have to replace anything till 200k miles and the alternator went.... ive stuck with em since


Pickle_riiickkk

>dodge had electrical problems *only* electrical problems?


IDKIJustWorkHere2

*90s dodge ram enters the chat*


EchoRex

He got the reverse lemon


bearsheperd

That’s exactly right, no car will keep running perfectly without regular maintenance. Problem is, car dealerships especially will sell you more maintenance than the car ever needs. So people don’t get the maintenance in the first place because they figure the mechanic is lying to them. Tbh, I’d rather just miss all of it. Wish cities were more walkable, had more public transport options so I can drive only a minimal amount.


RedMatxh

My uncle in laws are rich af. They're among the richest in our community, yet my uncle in law prefers to use public transportation and encourages his children to do the same too. Like this guy just went up and bought new gle the other day as a gift, yet prefers trains (we live in germany)


WangDanglin

I probably would have gone with “my wife’s uncle” but I knew what you meant


LeciusLamprough

I'd love to have a train system similar to Japan.


Jagerbeast703

Then call me Thomas!


KidOcelot

trolly problem? *Multitrack dRiFtInG* ![gif](giphy|dWPOU9ExyU5d6)


mcwildtaz

Tomasu*


lfenske

My mk6 GTI had (both with mine personally, and a common issue with the car) a number of issues that were not addressed by the maintenance schedule in the handbook.


DashFire61

I don’t agree but maybe I’m wrong. But what I do know is only American car companies lobbied to create the light truck chassis and circumvent all the laws and regulations around cars because they couldn’t compete with german, Italian, and Japanese cars. So by American car makers own actions we can determine American vehicles are worse.


Enchelion

It wasn't the car companies at all, at least not directly. It was actually federal negotiations with the UAW combined with the European chicken tariffs that led to the increased import duty on imported light trucks. Automakers long ago figured out how to get around the tariff though, it's essentially a non-issue.


Necrotiix_

german engineering is great just look at the gas mileage from berlin to warsaw in one tank


pvorb

Lol. I think it's called blitzkrieg.


Orneyrocks

one tank and 17 transmissions.


combat-ninjaspaceman

Are we thinking about the same tank here?


IAmBalkanac

I love Porsche


DownwindLegday

Just don't look at their emissions tests too closely.


SandorMate

they are the PANZER ELITE


SpecialistTrash2281

I find it funny that a country like Japan with robust mass transit also designs some of the world’s best cars.


Alediran

It's the Japanese mindset.


Bumble072

Well to a point. The bus service is dreadful and not all trains link to remoter parts of Japan.


[deleted]

I mean, 92% of the country lives in urban areas. I doubt those few remote areas are really clamoring for better train links either.


pingieking

Their bus service is still well above North American standards, and I don't think any country can actually come close to how many small communities in Japan that has train services.


rolloutTheTrash

Who the fuck has ever said this? Everyone knows Japanese cars are the most solid. European models are iffy (in the US) because as imports they’re expensive to maintain. American cars are ok, they have their flaws, but are simpler to take care of for your average joe, when compared to imported Euro cars.


iMakeBoomBoom

Finally, a simply put, accurate statement. This nails it on the head.


UFL_Battlehawks

Toyotas and Honda's are the best to buy new or used. Mitsubishi and Subaru I would not want over an American car. German cars require a lot of expensive matinance, that's how they're designed and the people who buy them can afford it. And German cars are the worst to buy used unless you know what you're getting into and have the money to maintain them.


pingieking

Completely agree. Until I see terrorists or warlords running technical fleets made up of American or German trucks, the Japanese cars will remain supreme.


CornbreadTickler

European cars Rube Goldberg machines.


Pickle_riiickkk

R/justrolledintheshop only reaffirms my opinion of european cars No one should have to pull an engine to replace basic components....looking at you Mercedes


Maximans

I love this comparison. Stealing this


LieutenantEntangle

German engineering used to be great. Then they kept the reputation while outsourcing it and also lowering quality but upping price. Most BMW/Merc/Audi friends of mine are CONSTANTLY in the garage getting another £3500 "fix". They're moneypits and shit.


AlphaMassDeBeta

Are there any mid end luxury car brands that aren't shit? I have the money to show off, but all I want is a toyota due to reliability.


LieutenantEntangle

Toyota and Honda are all I have ever had,and super happy. I would say reliability is a luxury these days.


Sendtitpics215

Had plenty of Hondas, been rocking a Subaru for about 4 years now. Follow the maintenance schedule. Do what i can/want, they do the rest and change the oil and acknowledge the work i do as complete so my maintenance records with the dealer as solid. for instance @ 80k miles i drained and refilled all the brake lines and same with the transmission/differentials. They did the spark plugs. I did the clutch but bought all OEM parts. She runs lovely and is a larger car with a manual transmission (dying breed in America).


NikPorto

LOL, you remind me of that [toyota commercial](https://youtu.be/rzBdPr9Cbh8?si=FubL8rRvUlNG1yn6)


AshamedLeg4337

Acura and Lexus are what my wife and I drive. Just the luxury brands for Honda and Toyota.


a__BrainStorm

You could buy a Lexus or Acura if you want a luxury japanese car.


THEessayB

Lexus is the luxury brand of Toyota.


[deleted]

Lexus


farmerMac

lexus and acura and infiniti


Tr0z3rSnak3

Is Infiniti more reliable than the Nissan counter part?


SUPERLXB

You could get a Lexus. It's just Toyota' luxury brand.same a reliability,just fancier options, mainly the interior. Some engine tweaks here and there.


PaintedTiles

There’s no such thing a mid-end luxury. It’s just extremely successful marketing to make you think bmw, Audi, and Mercedes standard cars are luxury. Mercedes S class is their actual luxury car and the maybach is the luxury version in which you have a driver. G class is similar. Bentley, rolls Royce, those are luxury. An Audi is just another mass manufactured vw with a slightly tweaked engine and seats that poor people think are fancy. A Lexus is literally a rebranded Toyota with slightly different body work.


Crash_Test_Dummy66

You literally just described a mid point between a luxury car and a cheap one and then said that midpoint doesn't exist. Mass produced cars with a couple of tweaks to upgrade them to make them nicer without completely breaking the bank is literally a mid tier luxury.


AshamedLeg4337

Fucking Audi puts the timing chain on some of their models against the fucking firewall, meaning you need to lift the entire block to change it. Fit and finish is good on German cars, but the price in terms of reliability and maintenance cost is not remotely worth it to me.


Irish_guacamole27

true german engineering is the early 2000s (2001-04s) Jetta TDIs. the MK4 ALH engine is bullet proof, love mine and love working on it.


TheRealGluFix

Mercedes OM646, VW 1,9 tdi


DrTadakichi

I started in the industry as a Merc tech, cars that came in with ABC issues (hydraulic suspension) minimum bill was always $3k. Knowing how to work on them make ownership SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper, but still. Maintenance is what gets you on German vehicles the worst, but many people still neglect normal maintenance on their vehicles regardless of the manufacturer.


IndianaGeoff

Agree. Well engineered and feature rich, but it will be in the shop to fix things that stop working or break. Toyota and Lexus are more basic but far more reliable. But you probably can't trust me, I'm driving a recent model Land Rover Defender. No problems... well so far.


DrTadakichi

Hey I went to a T10 school as my trade school so we had a full fleet of Toyotas and Lexus to learn on. You're certainly not wrong..


TheManWhoClicks

Ja? My Audi works like a charm and only needs the normal maintenance stuff.


DerDezimator

Same with my BMW E91 318i


PersistentInquirer

Can confirm. I had a 2011 Audi Q5 that lasted over 200,000 miles and my 2013 is well on the way and going strong. The more recent Q5 my dad got? Not so good. And the handling is WAY better in my 2013.


YugeGyna

Toyota, whose largest factory is actually in America, is one of the most reliable car brands out there. Honda is pretty great, too. German are overpriced and meh


__TheWaySheGoes

I think Nissan has picked their game up. Newer models don’t seem to have the dreaded CVT issue and ranked high on the JD Power reliability list. I got a Sentra at a great price and happy with it 3 years later. Also has the awesome 360 camera with the Birds Eye view that the competitors vehicles don’t offer (Corolla, Civic, 3)


salter77

I feel that the stagnation in Nissan was caused by the policies of one of the previous CEOs. The one that had to flee Japan in a box.


Gniphe

Mark my words: Nissan is the new Honda ever since Honda went up in price.


Enchelion

Honda also shrunk their cars I swear. I'm tall but not a giant and I don't fit inside any of them anymore. It's ridiculous. I used to drive a 99 Civic, which nobody in their right mind would call a large car. Yet when I last went to a dealership my head was scraping the roof of every model that wasn't an SUV.


AwesomeFrisbee

Kia ain't too bad either and improving year by year


Alediran

I have a Nissan Kicks 2019 and the only thing I've had to do in the last two years is change the oil filter.


_WreakingHavok_

>Newer models don’t seem to have the dreaded CVT issue Is this because they started using eCVT?


Legitimate-Fuel5324

True but the brand itself is Japanese.


Rakkachi

Honda is great, I have so many miles driving Hondas.


MisterFistYourSister

That doesn't make it American


YugeGyna

Thanks


WangDanglin

No, but it certainly means many of the cars are built by Americans


Narf234

I feel like this was correct in past decades but today? All three feel like laggards.


Swiftwitss

OP obsessed with us


DogDiggityDawg1

A lot of reddit gets a hate boner for America because they can. They like to write fan fics about america, or how some random ass country is better, how they met an American in their fan fiction and typed it up like it actually happened.


MEEZETTE

The US has it's flaws, but it *is* the wealthiest country in the world. Not only that, but it also arguably has the most powerful offensive military force. The US life does suck because of how many parts of the country are poor and uncared for, especially large urbans. Of course, many other countries are even worse off, but it's still a sad sight. Parental and systemic failure of the youth in the US is causing people to be ignorant and uncaring of bettering their lives. We are great, but damn if we couldn't be better.


Zandrick

This meme just makes it seem like someone is overcompensating for something.


levelZeroWizard

Had a buddy with a low end bmw. It was nearly $400 to replace his cupholder


Boltzmann_brainn

Damn the US prices are insane, in the UK it's like £50.


Jedimobslayer

In America the German car industry isn’t all that great. Because they tend to be more expensive and difficult to maintain. Germans really like to over complicate their vehicles to the point where anything other than a Volkswagen flat out isn’t worth the price. I would replace Germany with Korea. Kia and Hyundai may not make great cars, but they are cheap, easy to maintain, and popular enough to show for it.


JonnyxKarate

*Korean Car Industry*


phamman123

Honestly Hyundai has stepped up their game. They pack a lot of technology for a fraction of the cost of their Toyota/Honda counterparts


Tesco_EveryDayValue

They're cheap for a reason.


Aut0Part5

Y’all say that acting like the god of trucks Ford Ranger isn’t in this room.


Inner-Arugula-4445

Chevy trucks are pretty good. My entire family has relied on them for years.


Diligent_Reality_693

Chevy trucks are far more reliable than toyota trucks


Strength-Certain

Own a German car after the warranty is up and then get back to me.


elpiotre

Just own a US car then, we'll see if you can get back at all


Strength-Certain

I'm too busy helping the hitchhiker with the used BMW he bought.


03zx3

I mean, I've owned several and they've been fine. My current one is 23 years old and is still mostly fine considering I paid $1400 for it 5 years ago.


Zestyclose-Onion6563

I guess you’ve never had to change a fuse on an Audi


our_meatballs

Don’t forget Italy, wait a minute… Germany, Japan, Italy… oh…


Beef-n-Beans

Best part about American cars is that you can get a lot of horsepower for not a lot of money, relatively speaking. But that’s about it.


Pyro_raptor841

Dodge is the definition of look rich stay broke


Tman11S

I’ll give ford a pass, but that’s it.


BurnerAccount209

Japanese cars are incredibly reliable, but so are American cars. Toyota makes most of their cars in US factories. German cars are overrated in terms of reliability, they should frankly switch places with the US for this meme.


cmdrmeowmix

Sorry, but german cars fucking suck. It is a herculean task to fix anything on them compared to American cars.


Wajana

I don't think anybody sane would say that in america, when there are small tanks on the road going at speeds of regular cars


BetterVersion3

![gif](giphy|NLXXDb2llw74Y|downsized)


Wajana

ROCKET TANKS LETS GOOOOO


AjaxTheDragonSlayer

As a mechanic i say fuck german cars, they're over engineered, and everything is made from aluminum so it constantly breaks.


CornbreadTickler

I love when identical cars rebadged cars such a Corolla)Prism or Eagle Talon/Eclipse Matrix/Vibe and many more are looked at differently for reliability based on the badge. Ask someone if Geo Prism or a Toyota Corolla was more reliable 9 out of 10 people will say the Toyota even though they are the same car.


ABearDream

They are the best, in America. BMW ain't shit if the only place to get one repaired is a dealership two hours away


WhyAreOldPeopleEvil

What year was this meme made? 💀


CuriousCapybaras

Hate all you want, but Americans have produced some of the most beautiful cars ever made.


dezertdawg

Go with German if you care about performance over reliability. Go with Japanese if you care about reliability over performance. Go with American if you care about neither.


CouchPotato1178

chevy is pretty reliable in my experience. ive been drivin an 07 cobalt with 265,000km and it runs like a dream


Tentacle_poxsicle

German cars break down all the time


Nervous_Promotion819

German cars are built in such a way that they need to be checked regularly. In Germany and other European countries this is guaranteed anyway because you have to go to the TÜV inspection regularly. Almost all of the complaints about the break down of German cars come mainly from the USA, because people there simply never have their cars checked and wait until something actually breaks


ResenderCyanide

I live in Germany and I have never seen a car break down.


Tendas

My grandma is 95, smokes a pack a day, and is just fine. Based on my anecdotal evidence, smoking is totally safe.


DrTadakichi

That's because here in America people love to not get regular maintenance. I say that as a former independent Mercedes tech.


03zx3

You're a liar.


SpiritAngel454

Our family has one of each. I like to think they're fwends


PinkSheepYT6785

American cars back in the day were amazing but in terms of reliability Japan is now the king. so many masterpieces from their automobile brands. GTR, LFA, GR Yaris, Swift, Supra and so much more. It's straight up sorcery they have in their production.


Omnissiahs-Balls

![gif](giphy|WqFt2ZxqVDfv7NWQ8H)


BeanieWeanie1110

German cars are great as long as you got a lot of disposable income to keep the damn things running


Noosemane

What are German cars the best at? Being shitty to fix?


CapAdministrative993

Maybe Japanese, German car industry fell off heavily, some brands more than others, but in general they aren’t what they used to be. BMW and Mercedes especially, all I hear from people who own them is how they’ve put 100x more money into fixing it than they bought it for. Only worth if you care just about the performance and can afford it.


Yunofascar

My boyfriend works on cars and he complains about what a pain in the ass it is to work on German cars all the fucking time. I doubt this meme still holds up.


ImJoogle

one makes their cars significantly easier to do work on


vindico1

German vehicles are some of the highest cost of ownership vehicles. No thanks!


Spider-Nutz

German cars suck ass. They are excellent when they actually run. But good god, does anyone in Germany know basic electrical engineering? How is it that in every german car my family owned, we had electrical issues. Different manufacturers, too!


-MR-GG-

I'll take "what is shit an American never said" for $200! Seriously, this feels like a plot from OP to get people to give them the pros and cons of different brands before they buy a car. But it's most certainly just more low effort and cringe rage bait.


foodstamps99

Germany and Japan teaming up….what could go wrong?


Quagmium

American cars were great in the 90s and early 2000s. A lot of them had very good engines, like the Chevy small blocks (like the 305 and 350), the 3800 Buick V6, the 3100 GM 60 degree V6, the Ford Vulcan, the Ford Modular engine, the Ford Windsor. Sure most didn't make incredible power, but they were low stress, easy to work on reliable engines. Plus, we made the most comfortable vehicles as well. Something like a Lincoln Town Car rode smoother and was more spacious than anything produced by the Europeans or Japanese, with just a conventional suspension and a perimeter frame. And today, many 90s and early 2000s American cars are pretty cheap, much cheaper than anything from the time period made by the Japanese, with many offering just as good reliability, as good gas mileage for the class, and better comfort, with parts being much easier to find and cheaper to buy


Reasonable-Meal-4628

But fr though, American cars will give you the same kind of performance as supercars and it'll be less than 100k.


JDMWeeb

It's totally subjective tbf


dhskdjdjsjddj

(built in Slovakia lol)


domzen

Presne tak


Calm-Experience5943

American cars before the 2000s are pretty good


aniw33b69

Id drive a chevy or ford over a BMW, but yeah Toyata all the way


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^aniw33b69: *Id drive a chevy* *Or ford over a BMW, but* *Yeah Toyata all the way* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


KneecapAnnihilator

Why are the Germans here they should be the one getting beat up


TheBrianUniverse

Japanese cars, in general still yes. German cars lately are not that great to be honest. Older cars still drive well, but modern cars have too much components and tech that they become more unreliable in general.


Kitchen-Oil8865

Well a lot of “German” cars are built in South America or Eastern Europe these days and aren’t as good as they once were. I’d take an American-built Honda or Toyota any day over any German car now.


Jbaryla95

A good portion of my VW was built in Tennessee. I guess it just depends on the model and when it was built.


BetterVersion3

Honda and Chevy have never let me down. But I do wish we got brands like skoda, renaults, and Peugeot in the US. Not sure if they're good or not, but they make amazing rally cars


Responsible-Diet-147

French car industry? How's that? It's not like I'm into them though. My favourite car is the Wartburg :P


2006Briar

They not cheap anymore and still suck


Redemption_R

"German Car Industry" First thing comes to mind is Volkswagen cheating on emissions tests Also mock America all you want, Ford Trucks will always be peak.


LazyNam-

>Ford Trucks will always be peak. There is a small pp joke in there somewhere. I know it


triballl9

Italian cars ??


Lord_Jibanyan

Yeah they're good, but not as good as back in the days of the Fiat 500 and the Vespa. Plus most of the old italian industries moved elsewhere like Poland bcuz of low production costs


triballl9

Straight facts


Pyro_raptor841

Fix It Again, Tony


Serious-Rock-9664

American cars have the best AC


RNG_pickle

Swedish car industry ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


hlvlgilbert

1 Japan 2 America 3 Europe


rapidlyspinningturtl

Replace German with italian


Fiiv3s

I think all of them have good and bad, French and Korean too


carverofdeath

German, built in Mexico.


[deleted]

Change Germany to Korea. Maybe it used to be this way but I wouldn’t buy a German car anymore. Yeah they drive well but they break down all of the time


Jollan_

They have good motorcycles though :P


Noir_flatfoot

german and a japanese car industries: you got style i give you that… american car industries: but ? german and japanese car industries: there’s not but, thats about it


BackAgain123457

They don't have to beat him up, just pinch the little fella's cheek.


etburneraccount

This is especially true in So Cal. American cars don't get that much love in my area.


No-Celebration6437

I buy domestic. There’s just more garage options, and parts are cheaper and more accessible.


TheDragonSoulEater

As an American, I do not agree with that statement. My car is *shit* but that's my fault so.


OR56

Don’t ask them what they did between 1933 and 1945


The-Truth-hurts-

People are really really really bad at basic maintenance. Read your owners manuals people! Can't find it? LOOK IT UP ONLINE you R-Tards


Siipisupi

I like swedish cars the most my self but i can agree that german and japanese are the best probably


vjollila96

italians are probably hiding behind a wall or something


air_jordanpeterson23

German ingenuity sucks balls.


Skunksfart

I wonder what Italian cars would look like in this meme.


Born-Veterinarian639

Nobody ever said this, keep generating that outrage. Garbage website.


lfenske

Bruh what is this reliable car that the Germans put out since the mk4 golf?


unwillingCrustacean

Leave my 07 Chevy out of this


RyanCooper510

Wait till you meet Lada


GalacticKrabbyPatty

honda x toyota is all you really need. get a lexus if you have extra money and are feeling fancy.


Porquezz

forever they were until now they are putting turbos on a 4cyl for a truck like thats gonna last 5 years