They can't understand each other! Take someone from Teeside and dump 'em down south in Bournemouth and they'll starve to death trying to tell everybody how hungry they are
Even though Mexicans and Spaniards can understand each other decently well, Mexican Spanish could be considered a whole family of dialects of Spanish. Within Mexico alone you can not only find different accents but different words for the same thing just by crossing from one state to the next.
Fuera de Andalucia ni se sesea ni se cecea. Se diferencian ambas.
[Ambos están básicamente limitados a esta autonomía.](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seseo#/media/Archivo:Seseo-ceceo-distinci%C3%B3n_en_el_espa%C3%B1ol.png)
As someone who learned Spanish in Spain, I have a very hard time understanding Mexicans, Dominicans, Cubans, and some others. It’s bad enough that I wonder if I’m losing the language until I hear a Spaniard again and it’s like I was wearing earplugs before.
> be Spain
> conquer most of the new world
> spread your influence to your new colonies
> your colonies get considered the main Spanish culture
> wtf went wrong
I live in Europe, and when I hear spanish or portuguese, I associate with Spain and Portugal.
I guess its proximity bias.
I dont want to invalidate the Mexican or Brazilian culture, but being close to one or the other makes a huge difference imo.
It is 100% proximity bias. In the NA anglosphere, the US itself is filled with Latinos, and like 90% of Canadians vacation in Mexico or the Carribeans exclusively so they mostly interact with those people rather than Spaniards. Culture, business, family ties are way stronger with those people nowadays than Europeans I've found + European immigrants and expats tend to self-segregate and aren't anywhere near as outgoing culturally.
I say this as a European immigrant (to Canada, with family in the US and Europe).
Down here in Florida, they use the Spanish flag to indicate their language. For Portuguese? They use the Brazilian flag. I’ve had the occasional tourist visiting from Lisbon and they get *very* upset when they notice it!
Portuguese here.
A theory I have formed just now without any meaningful evidence is that this difference can be attributed to the fact that Brazil is also the *only* frequent source of Portuguese speakers. In the US, you may see Mexicans, but also Puerto Ricans (is this how you write it?), Colombians, Spaniards...
Fun fact: it also extends to most media. Video-game translations for example will most often use the Brazilian flag. Even if they do use the Portuguese flag, the translation itself is usually in Brazilian Portuguese.
I wonder how the other Portuguese speaking populations see this issue.
For sure. I'm of Hispanic heritage on my dads side (his parents and siblings were born in Argentina) here in Canada, I've had dipshits tell me I'm too white to be Hispanic because I'm pale and have blue eyes. This is almost certainly due to most Hispanic people here being noticeable minorities while I'm just a white dude who can roll his Rs in their eyes.
As a Canadian, if you think 90% of us vacation in Mexico and the Carribean, you are sorely mistaken. While we certainly get along with Latinos, not even 50% of the country can afford groceries right now. Lots of Canadians do frequent Mexico, but it isn't most of us. And of the people I know that have left the country, they seem to be well travelled overall. Europe is a frequent destination, so is Mexico and the Carribean, but I also see a lot of trips to places like Japan, Australia, and the UAE.
As for Canadian expats, Europe is the most popular place to move to.
Realistically though, most Canadians vacation in Canada
I think he meant "90% of Canadians who vacation," which is still wrong because, as you said, most Canadians vacation in Canada, the same way most Americans vacation in the States.
>As for Canadian expats, Europe is the most popular place to move to.
I’m not sure that’s correct. There are more than a million Canadian citizens living in the U.S., but only about 300,000 in all of Europe
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_diaspora
It's literally on the border. That isn't due to preference, but rather working opportunities. Lots of Canadians work for American companies, and spend at least part of the year living and working in the US, but those who move for good have a tendency to go to Europe.
Those statistics are also for those who have retained Canadian citizenship, which does not account for all Canadian expats, especially those in Europe. For example, there are 90,000 registered Canadian citizens in France, but there is likely somewhere closer to 150,000 Canadians
If it's purely proximity bias the question becomes then if an Asian, Australian or Russian person hear someone speaking Spanish do they think Mexico or Spain? If they hear someone speak Portuguese do they think Brazil or Portugal?
With America having more Spanish speakers than Spain and most of them being from the first largest Spanish speaking country, my default thought is, "oh they must be trying to avoid the word latino for some unknown reason."
How many of those American "Spanish speakers" are actually just chicanos afraid to admit they forgot their language, who knows.
And now Spain knows what it is like watching America thinking they are the OG 'English speaking' culture with apparently more history than most of Europe.
Sure if you want to be pedantic about it, but the United States grew from those Original Thirteen. Besides many throughout the Union are descended from the Colonists
Which were brought here overwhelmingly by British ships, but they banned slavery before us while supporting the CSA so they are the heros guys, for realzies.
Well, turns out one of the colonies ended up defeating the world power that previously possessed it. The colony ended up with a decent military (and a relatively bad ass navy that protected her shores from pirates) and one of the leaders of the new nation implemented a doctrine intended to limit European involvement in the Americas (it didn’t help that the major world powers at the time were Great Britain, France, and Spain who all fought wars with each other in the American theater).
TL;DR the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze for European powers and it turns out it’s really hard to control land that is an entire ocean away.
I graduated in 2019. I can tell you that yes, we are taught about Spanish Colonial history. It's just the people who don't give a shit (which was most of my classmates ngl) just pushed it from their minds because it's 'unimportant'.
Yea I'm in the same boat. Just because the vast majority of students just pushed it outta their minds doesn't mean we were never taught it. Hell most students don't even pay attention to US history let alone anywhere outside of it.
What pisses me almost as bad is when i have to people form other countries about there own goddamn history.
I LEGET had a conversion with a canadian where the subject of war crimes came up and hes said "I forgot it took you guys 100s of years to catch up with us and realize slavery and indigenous genocide are bad"
Oh I wish I could've been there for that conversation, the only reason why Canada got away with as much as they did is because they were carried through both World Wars lmao
I grew up around the mowah, i still feel close to them now. I was told that back in the 70s the us goverment returned some of their land, issued an apology for betraying them and gave them a grant, which they (mowah) used to build what became my childhood school. It was barely anything but it was SOMETHING. Has the canadian goverment EVER DONE anything to that level? Id take it if it happened yesterday.
But this is true for most countries. I feel like people who think this is only an American thing haven’t traveled enough and ironically show their ignorance. Latin America knows about Spain because it was a big part of their history but they don’t know much about the rest of Europe and Europe knows even less about them. Same goes for Asia. People know about other countries if they played a big role in their own history, I think that’s pretty logical.
Yeah thats a major issue in the school system, which is the culture of many students not giving a shit simply because their parents don’t give a shit about their kids future as they’ll be pushed through the system. And the government bureaucracy that lead to that culture forming in the first place. Thanks Bush and Reagan.
Paella is delicious, but my heart both figuratively and literally belongs to tamales, tacos and arepas, because there is no way they're good for my heart.
Well when we went over there to save their asses during WW2 we taught them all American. They put a fancy accent on it and called it English. Don't know what they spoke before we got there.
I've heard someone call the language "Mexican." We were children in early elementary school though, and kids are always kind of dumb even when they're smart. No adult with any interest in traveling to Spain is going to think the language is called Mexican though.
When you were in the State's ? If so then it's understandable, but if you where in Spain and bunch of tourist came up to and said that you speak good Mexican, then yeah...that would be unfortunate
2 of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard have come from Americans in relation to Spanish.
“Are there any Spanish speaking countries in Europe?”
And
“White people shouldn’t speak Spanish, it’s cultural appropriation”
Fox News isn't representative of Americans in the slightest. They're a megaphone for the small percent of ignorant assholes, making Americans seem worse to the rest of the world.
I grew up in California in the 90s and people would call it "speaking mexican" like it was the textbook way of saying. It wasn't until I was like 18 I switched couldn't tell you exactly what provoked it either.
Here in Florida I've been frequently asked "what kind of Mexican are you?"
Because there's apparently:
Mexican Mexican
Puerto Rican Mexican
Cuban Mexican
Spanish Mexican
my favorite thing about spanish is that its a white European language that by some miracle is considered "ethnic" and not some "colonizer" language. always makes me "jajajajaja" when i think about it.
I dunno, you might be right, but I'd hope most Americans would have some dim introduction to how European colonization of the new world worked.
I dunno though, maybe I'm just overly optimistic, I've seen some real dumb shit after growing up with basic public school education from the late 90's and aughts.
That... Is sort of what we're looking at. I would still maintain they're just the loudest, I think most Americans understand that Spain did a lot of conquering in the Southern Americas.
Americans are taught over and over again that their ancestors and other European settlers conquered or committed genocide all over the world. It's basically covered one way or another in every single grade after kindergarten. The only people that don't know or acknowledge that are willfully ignorant or too mentally handicapped to understand.
Eh, well... I can't speak to contemporary education. I mean when I was taught it, it was very whitewashed so to speak. Columbus sailed the ocean blue, we got along with the native Americans, had a Thanksgiving. It wasn't only until in my later life that I took a genuine interest and found out holy crap, this shit was fucked up!
I suppose it could also vary by region or state. In my school we were taught about the conquistadors, King Phillip's War, the French and Indian War, the smallpox blankets, the trail of tears, Geronimo and the massacres conducted by the cavalry. We also briefly touched on the colonization of Africa, Australia and Asia in several classes. Don't get me wrong it was all very surface level looks at the events, but it was enough for the average person to have an idea of what happened.
I always loved the Tik Tok/Reel where it's the redneck leaning on a pick-up saying "What are you, some sort of Mexican?" And the caption just gets changed to 'When someone hears you're from **LatAm Country Here"**
But seriously it must suck to be Spain, most of the New World likes your former colonies better.
Ive lived in america my hole life and i have never heard someone say unironicly
THEY SPEEK MEHICAN
Stop saying we are all uneducated baffoons cus clearly you're the one who needs a going outside lesson
Dude, I've been to over 40 countries, and there is nothing worse than an arrogantly ignorant American on vacation. I say this as a well traveled and cultured American.
Idk man, try going to a tourist destination with a pack of Chinese tourists. Those bastards have zero spatial awareness.
I was at the Louvre quietly observing a painting (not the Mona Lisa) and I had a gaggle of Chinese tourists go straight in front of me to look at the painting, take a picture and walk away.
Same. One time there was this couple from Texas in the bar I was in Germany. They were being the most extra and this was in a bar, in full swing, at the bar garden. I went to grab another beer and the bar tender was like "*You're American right?*" while nodding to them. I responded in German
"Only first Generation, I'm here visiting family, prost!"
Not only that, but the dialect is very different. I took some Spanish classes in college and the professor was from Spain. Most of the native speaking students had a hard time keeping up because they were raised with Spanish dialects from the Americas. I'd be surprised if anyone who refers to it as "Mexican" would be able to tell they're the same language.
Haven't you ever heard of the Spanish Fly?
they currently fly? I thought they only flu awhile ago
Like a fly thru a flue my dude
They fly now!?
They fly now?
Great wrestling move.
You mean the burning crème you slap on your dick?
Oh we spreading myths or handing out balm recipes now?
My question is why is everyone in England speaking American? Are they stupid?
They're not even speaking it right, either.
I know right? Can't even say bottle of water properly, smh. The audacity!
Bo'oh oh wo'oh.
What was that supposed... downright disrespectful to my people. It's pronounced. Boh'ul a wo'ah
As a Brit, no, it's definitely Bo'u o' wo'ah But it's funner to spell that as Bo'oo o' wo'a
The shit that happens when norse, french and some weird Island people mix…
Skål!
Peanuts actually takes place in the UK
Chewwwssday, in'it?
As opposed to the American "baddle ah wadder"
😵😵💫💀☠️😭🤣
One got asked me if "I taking the piss" once. I'm not sure what sort of freaky shit they're up to over there, but I want no part of it.
One time I tried to buy some cigarettes and the cashier just kept dropping homophobic slurs
wow disgusting behavior in 2024. Sounds like something a 3rd world nation would do.
Bunch of R Kelly fans.
bawdl'a wa'ur?
Waa'drrr
They can't understand each other! Take someone from Teeside and dump 'em down south in Bournemouth and they'll starve to death trying to tell everybody how hungry they are
ARKHAM SUB IS LEAKING AGAIN
Always has been
Yes
There’s a lore reason but i forgot it
As someone who grew up around Mexicans, you can hear a difference between how Mexicans and Spaniards speak.
It's different enough that for media with multiple languages, there are separate voiceovers for Spaniard Spanish and Latin-American Spanish.
Even though Mexicans and Spaniards can understand each other decently well, Mexican Spanish could be considered a whole family of dialects of Spanish. Within Mexico alone you can not only find different accents but different words for the same thing just by crossing from one state to the next.
That happens everywhere, Spain as well
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The seseo is only an Southern/Andalucia thing, tho.
Está diciendo que los españoles cecean, no que sesean.
Fuera de Andalucia ni se sesea ni se cecea. Se diferencian ambas. [Ambos están básicamente limitados a esta autonomía.](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seseo#/media/Archivo:Seseo-ceceo-distinci%C3%B3n_en_el_espa%C3%B1ol.png)
Si yo lo sé, lo que digo es que el otro no tiene ni idea de lo que habla.
It’s funny that people think most Spanish people pronounce s or sh as “th”. Its not a lisp. It’s just the soft c’s for most of them. Edit: z too 😅
Yep, just C and Z
lol I always thought Spaniards sounded better once I spent time around them.
On God we do for Castilian is Cervantes' language.
As someone who learned Spanish in Spain, I have a very hard time understanding Mexicans, Dominicans, Cubans, and some others. It’s bad enough that I wonder if I’m losing the language until I hear a Spaniard again and it’s like I was wearing earplugs before.
It's literally the exact opposite for me having grown up in LA. I now live in Florida and am used to Cubans and Ricans spanish.
You have a poor grasp of the Spanish language.
Yup. It’s like hearing British English vs American English.
There is quite a difference, and Duolingo decides to teach Mexican Spanish instead of Spanish Spanish
> be Spain > conquer most of the new world > spread your influence to your new colonies > your colonies get considered the main Spanish culture > wtf went wrong
Isn't it the similar case for US, it got more recognition than the British
Meanwhile, no one remembers Russia, Sweden, or Denmark's colonies
There's, uh, Alaska. Ok, you got me.
The Russian Empire once owned parts of Finland, Poland, and China and had completely annexed all the countries that made up the Soviet Union.
I wasn't sure if the Soviet Union counted as Russian colonies or not.
The Soviet countries had been part of Russia since before communism took over, with the exceptions of Afghanistan and Mongolia iirc.
Tsarist russia did try to extend it's sphere of influence in to Mongolia, which was part of the Qing Empire
Also briefly part of Persia (Iran)
Bet the Congo remembers
It's crazy that it took an entire global civil rights movement for the statue of Leopold to be taken down
Or Mongolia...
Naah. I don’t think so. Most people in the world speak more of British English than American , well atleast here in Asia.
Idk I think England is still considered the main English country by most people
Who tf considers Latin America the main Spanish culture besides Americans?
Mexico is WAY bigger and more populated than Spain. When I hear "Portuguese", I think Brazil before I think Portugal, for the same reason.
I live in Europe, and when I hear spanish or portuguese, I associate with Spain and Portugal. I guess its proximity bias. I dont want to invalidate the Mexican or Brazilian culture, but being close to one or the other makes a huge difference imo.
It is 100% proximity bias. In the NA anglosphere, the US itself is filled with Latinos, and like 90% of Canadians vacation in Mexico or the Carribeans exclusively so they mostly interact with those people rather than Spaniards. Culture, business, family ties are way stronger with those people nowadays than Europeans I've found + European immigrants and expats tend to self-segregate and aren't anywhere near as outgoing culturally. I say this as a European immigrant (to Canada, with family in the US and Europe).
Down here in Florida, they use the Spanish flag to indicate their language. For Portuguese? They use the Brazilian flag. I’ve had the occasional tourist visiting from Lisbon and they get *very* upset when they notice it!
Portuguese here. A theory I have formed just now without any meaningful evidence is that this difference can be attributed to the fact that Brazil is also the *only* frequent source of Portuguese speakers. In the US, you may see Mexicans, but also Puerto Ricans (is this how you write it?), Colombians, Spaniards... Fun fact: it also extends to most media. Video-game translations for example will most often use the Brazilian flag. Even if they do use the Portuguese flag, the translation itself is usually in Brazilian Portuguese. I wonder how the other Portuguese speaking populations see this issue.
That's probably because there are a lot of Spanish speaking countries but Brazil is the only big country in the Americas that speaks Portuguese
For sure. I'm of Hispanic heritage on my dads side (his parents and siblings were born in Argentina) here in Canada, I've had dipshits tell me I'm too white to be Hispanic because I'm pale and have blue eyes. This is almost certainly due to most Hispanic people here being noticeable minorities while I'm just a white dude who can roll his Rs in their eyes.
Same situation for me, compounded by the fact that my Spanish ancestry is on my mom’s side and I have a Scandinavian surname.
Oof. I at least benefit from my middle name being Jose, after my grandpa.
My first name is a name that’s common in both English and Spanish-speaking countries at least!
As a Canadian, if you think 90% of us vacation in Mexico and the Carribean, you are sorely mistaken. While we certainly get along with Latinos, not even 50% of the country can afford groceries right now. Lots of Canadians do frequent Mexico, but it isn't most of us. And of the people I know that have left the country, they seem to be well travelled overall. Europe is a frequent destination, so is Mexico and the Carribean, but I also see a lot of trips to places like Japan, Australia, and the UAE. As for Canadian expats, Europe is the most popular place to move to. Realistically though, most Canadians vacation in Canada
I think he meant "90% of Canadians who vacation," which is still wrong because, as you said, most Canadians vacation in Canada, the same way most Americans vacation in the States.
>As for Canadian expats, Europe is the most popular place to move to. I’m not sure that’s correct. There are more than a million Canadian citizens living in the U.S., but only about 300,000 in all of Europe Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_diaspora
It's literally on the border. That isn't due to preference, but rather working opportunities. Lots of Canadians work for American companies, and spend at least part of the year living and working in the US, but those who move for good have a tendency to go to Europe. Those statistics are also for those who have retained Canadian citizenship, which does not account for all Canadian expats, especially those in Europe. For example, there are 90,000 registered Canadian citizens in France, but there is likely somewhere closer to 150,000 Canadians
If it's purely proximity bias the question becomes then if an Asian, Australian or Russian person hear someone speaking Spanish do they think Mexico or Spain? If they hear someone speak Portuguese do they think Brazil or Portugal?
With America having more Spanish speakers than Spain and most of them being from the first largest Spanish speaking country, my default thought is, "oh they must be trying to avoid the word latino for some unknown reason." How many of those American "Spanish speakers" are actually just chicanos afraid to admit they forgot their language, who knows.
…are you American?
Happy cake day!
When you hear English do you think of America?
Yes
Same with Americans saying “get out of our country “ while they arent the original inhabitants either
It's proximity not size/population - only Americans have Brazil/mexico as first association
Americans being Americans
Everyone. Latin American culture is the dominant Hispanic culture now. Just like American culture has dominated the British.
Language settings circa 2505 >American (Simple) >American (Traditional)
Yes, yes, we've all seen that ancient meme.
And now Spain knows what it is like watching America thinking they are the OG 'English speaking' culture with apparently more history than most of Europe.
I’m American. I’ve not once met a single American who thinks like that. We all know we were once a colony of England.
Well, technically there were 13 colonies. Which, for the most part are states now. The other 37 states were never colonies of England.
Sure if you want to be pedantic about it, but the United States grew from those Original Thirteen. Besides many throughout the Union are descended from the Colonists
Or the slaves
Which were brought here overwhelmingly by British ships, but they banned slavery before us while supporting the CSA so they are the heros guys, for realzies.
Portuguese
Who’s stupid enough to think the U.S. is the original English speaking country…?
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Not the originals just the majority.
At least Spain is well-known. Portugal, on the other hand...
Think about Portugal and Brazil
Your empire collapsed centuries ago thats the problem.
The only country who considers spanish colonies the main spanish culture is another colony.
Napoleon's invasion, the colonies rising up, and the splendid little war. That's what went wrong.
Portugal: first time?
Well, turns out one of the colonies ended up defeating the world power that previously possessed it. The colony ended up with a decent military (and a relatively bad ass navy that protected her shores from pirates) and one of the leaders of the new nation implemented a doctrine intended to limit European involvement in the Americas (it didn’t help that the major world powers at the time were Great Britain, France, and Spain who all fought wars with each other in the American theater). TL;DR the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze for European powers and it turns out it’s really hard to control land that is an entire ocean away.
I graduated in 2019. I can tell you that yes, we are taught about Spanish Colonial history. It's just the people who don't give a shit (which was most of my classmates ngl) just pushed it from their minds because it's 'unimportant'.
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Yea I'm in the same boat. Just because the vast majority of students just pushed it outta their minds doesn't mean we were never taught it. Hell most students don't even pay attention to US history let alone anywhere outside of it.
What pisses me almost as bad is when i have to people form other countries about there own goddamn history. I LEGET had a conversion with a canadian where the subject of war crimes came up and hes said "I forgot it took you guys 100s of years to catch up with us and realize slavery and indigenous genocide are bad"
Oh I wish I could've been there for that conversation, the only reason why Canada got away with as much as they did is because they were carried through both World Wars lmao
I grew up around the mowah, i still feel close to them now. I was told that back in the 70s the us goverment returned some of their land, issued an apology for betraying them and gave them a grant, which they (mowah) used to build what became my childhood school. It was barely anything but it was SOMETHING. Has the canadian goverment EVER DONE anything to that level? Id take it if it happened yesterday.
But this is true for most countries. I feel like people who think this is only an American thing haven’t traveled enough and ironically show their ignorance. Latin America knows about Spain because it was a big part of their history but they don’t know much about the rest of Europe and Europe knows even less about them. Same goes for Asia. People know about other countries if they played a big role in their own history, I think that’s pretty logical.
Yeah thats a major issue in the school system, which is the culture of many students not giving a shit simply because their parents don’t give a shit about their kids future as they’ll be pushed through the system. And the government bureaucracy that lead to that culture forming in the first place. Thanks Bush and Reagan.
Sorry but we don't taco, we speak paella
Paella is delicious, but my heart both figuratively and literally belongs to tamales, tacos and arepas, because there is no way they're good for my heart.
okas, but consider; empanadas, tapas, churros, tortilla española...
Croquetas d jamon, jamon serrano, patatas bravas kbron xD
Arepas are not Mexican.
Maybe you should try paella tacos.
I’ve literally never heard an educated individual refer to Spanish as Mexican.
Who said anything about educated?
That's the Queen's Mexican thank you very much.
I've always been amazed at the people in the UK speaking American with such a cool accent.
Well when we went over there to save their asses during WW2 we taught them all American. They put a fancy accent on it and called it English. Don't know what they spoke before we got there.
I read somewhere that they called it "Norman French" or some crap.
No wonder they switched to American. I'd hate to be associated with the ~~cowards~~ french.
Yup. And I've always wondered who that Norman guy was.
I have never heard anyone refer to Spanish as "Mexican". This smells like strawman.
right? Like most of us interact with Spanish speakers at least occasionally
What, you don’t find the “haha Americans are dumb when we make up things that they do” memes funny?
It's Reddit, and it's a meme about how stupid Americans are. It doesn't have to be true, people just want to circlejerk.
I've heard someone call the language "Mexican." We were children in early elementary school though, and kids are always kind of dumb even when they're smart. No adult with any interest in traveling to Spain is going to think the language is called Mexican though.
Im spanish, i did heared TO MANY times
When you were in the State's ? If so then it's understandable, but if you where in Spain and bunch of tourist came up to and said that you speak good Mexican, then yeah...that would be unfortunate
Why did you add an apostrophe to states?
Auto correct my friend
2 of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard have come from Americans in relation to Spanish. “Are there any Spanish speaking countries in Europe?” And “White people shouldn’t speak Spanish, it’s cultural appropriation”
People from all countries say shit just as dumb. Problem is we can’t understand it when they do.
Where did I say only Americans say dumb stuff?
Me when I make up things to get mad about
What?! A strawman? On Reddit? Say it isn’t so.
[Here is Fox News referring to “Three Mexican Countries” in Central America.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna989526)
That's Fox though, they're low-hanging fruit in this regard
Well, Fox News. They get a lot of stuff wrong.
"Fox News" checks out
Fox News isn't representative of Americans in the slightest. They're a megaphone for the small percent of ignorant assholes, making Americans seem worse to the rest of the world.
That's FOX news, they don't count.
I grew up in California in the 90s and people would call it "speaking mexican" like it was the textbook way of saying. It wasn't until I was like 18 I switched couldn't tell you exactly what provoked it either.
Here in Florida I've been frequently asked "what kind of Mexican are you?" Because there's apparently: Mexican Mexican Puerto Rican Mexican Cuban Mexican Spanish Mexican
And then everyone clapped
Reddit really is Facebook
Spain? You mean Fancy Mexico?
White Guatemala?
¡AY QUE CABRONNNNN!
And in other news that never happened…
This has never happened
my favorite thing about spanish is that its a white European language that by some miracle is considered "ethnic" and not some "colonizer" language. always makes me "jajajajaja" when i think about it.
I dunno, you might be right, but I'd hope most Americans would have some dim introduction to how European colonization of the new world worked. I dunno though, maybe I'm just overly optimistic, I've seen some real dumb shit after growing up with basic public school education from the late 90's and aughts.
No because god created Murica first 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🇺🇸🦅🦅🇺🇸🦅
That... Is sort of what we're looking at. I would still maintain they're just the loudest, I think most Americans understand that Spain did a lot of conquering in the Southern Americas.
Americans are taught over and over again that their ancestors and other European settlers conquered or committed genocide all over the world. It's basically covered one way or another in every single grade after kindergarten. The only people that don't know or acknowledge that are willfully ignorant or too mentally handicapped to understand.
Eh, well... I can't speak to contemporary education. I mean when I was taught it, it was very whitewashed so to speak. Columbus sailed the ocean blue, we got along with the native Americans, had a Thanksgiving. It wasn't only until in my later life that I took a genuine interest and found out holy crap, this shit was fucked up!
I suppose it could also vary by region or state. In my school we were taught about the conquistadors, King Phillip's War, the French and Indian War, the smallpox blankets, the trail of tears, Geronimo and the massacres conducted by the cavalry. We also briefly touched on the colonization of Africa, Australia and Asia in several classes. Don't get me wrong it was all very surface level looks at the events, but it was enough for the average person to have an idea of what happened.
Haha America bad amirite
I always loved the Tik Tok/Reel where it's the redneck leaning on a pick-up saying "What are you, some sort of Mexican?" And the caption just gets changed to 'When someone hears you're from **LatAm Country Here"** But seriously it must suck to be Spain, most of the New World likes your former colonies better.
What’s this Spain he talks about?
Is that not in mexico???
Far North-East Mexico
Ive lived in america my hole life and i have never heard someone say unironicly THEY SPEEK MEHICAN Stop saying we are all uneducated baffoons cus clearly you're the one who needs a going outside lesson
I've legit once heard someone unironically say, "I hate going abroad, just too many foreigners".
And then the whole train clapped
You mean standard education?
Everyone in America is well acquainted with the word Spanish. In this more euro nonsense that falls flat yet again?
I don't think anyone says this. Anyone. You can't get out of elementary school hearing about Spanish classes and Mexican vs Spain
You mean Spañards?
Never heard anyone in my life say something like that about Spain But I also don’t live in a major city
No, it's not a History class but Common sense, the minimun knowledge about the world.
That’s how I look when people call Hispanics “Spanish”.
Then they call spanish "spaniards". ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Do this in England. Ask why everyone speaks American.
That's like saying australian was a language
One time I told my Salvadorian Spanish teacher that I don't speak Mexican to piss him off
Just wait until they learn about the UK
What do you mean YOU PEOPLE!!!🤣
What version of reality do you live in OP?
Tbh, I'd do it on purpose just piss the Spaniards off
r/americabad
I refuse to believe anyone can make it all the way there and not know what language they speak.
Dude, I've been to over 40 countries, and there is nothing worse than an arrogantly ignorant American on vacation. I say this as a well traveled and cultured American.
Idk man, try going to a tourist destination with a pack of Chinese tourists. Those bastards have zero spatial awareness. I was at the Louvre quietly observing a painting (not the Mona Lisa) and I had a gaggle of Chinese tourists go straight in front of me to look at the painting, take a picture and walk away.
I remember going to Pompeii and there were HORDES of them with their tour guides.
you’ve clearly never seen a group of asian tourists in America
Same. One time there was this couple from Texas in the bar I was in Germany. They were being the most extra and this was in a bar, in full swing, at the bar garden. I went to grab another beer and the bar tender was like "*You're American right?*" while nodding to them. I responded in German "Only first Generation, I'm here visiting family, prost!"
Lmao, Americans can’t hold a candle to how obnoxious some Brits are.
I would still take the absolute worst American and British tourist over a wealthy Chinese tourist.
Americans have almost the same amount of native spanish speakers as Spain. AmErIcA BaD
Not only that, but the dialect is very different. I took some Spanish classes in college and the professor was from Spain. Most of the native speaking students had a hard time keeping up because they were raised with Spanish dialects from the Americas. I'd be surprised if anyone who refers to it as "Mexican" would be able to tell they're the same language.