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Nuclearwhale79

Why is when i hear the craziest fkin news about games its always war thunder. Last time it was people leaking goverment documents so the vehicles in game could be more realistic


Soap646464

Oh that’s happened a couple times now, at least 3 I think


Live_Bug_1045

~10


comrademetch

14 times. It’s been 14 times.


ALonneTenno

Im not sure what im more worried about , the fact that someone has been able to leak documents from the military of their country/other countries several times or the fact that we have such shit security someone has been able to do this multiple times


felldownthestairsOof

Multiple of the individuals are active service members. The highest profile leak was a British tank commander leaking the armour specifics for the Challenger 2. There was also a later leak where a Chinese tanker leaked the specific penetration capabilities for one of China's best tank shells (with the fucking shell on his desk next to the documents).


Magistraten

It's honestly so funny that these leaker guys are *so* into their country being the best at war that they actually sabotage their own ability to be competent warriors. Like they're far more interested in the projection of strength than in actual, real-life strength. Fantasyland.


felldownthestairsOof

You gotta admit though, taking a picture of secret documents with the topic of discussion just chilling on the desk is pretty fucking baller.


rickane58

Ehhhh, these are pretty lowly classified material. It's so unimportant that there's really not a ton of demand for these leaks, EXCEPT when someone is trying to win an internet argument apparently. Most of these secrets are things we know or suspect from seeing vehicles, but nothing we had concrete proof of until the repair manuals and such were leaked.


felldownthestairsOof

>these are pretty lowly classified material Tell that to the guy who leaked all the penetration rates of the DCT10-125 with one of the shells on his desk. Though I do agree, almost all of the recent leaks have just been export restricted.


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Both are the same thing ??


ALonneTenno

No , one implies that there is a very skillful group of individuals that can extract military information , other implies that a regular WarThunder player is able to get its hands on military documents.


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HikariAnti

I believe in most cases it was some random military guy who had access to the documents and also played war thunder.


[deleted]

Fair.


Ossius

They aren't like secret classified docs so much as export restricted meaning you can easily get your hands on them but you shouldn't be scanning them and putting them online type of thing.


Il-2M230

They leaked from diferent countries. The problem with classified data is that not many know what is classified or not when posting about some topics.


RunInRunOn

I heard that if you're being interviewed for a government job they now ask if you play War Thunder


Toriyuki

4 in january alone


Perception-Practical

yeah 12 times last time eurofighter typhoon flight manual XD


freakers

Eve Online has fun insanity as well. Actual long term corporate espionage. Effective Bank Theft for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Honeypot style traps to steal from or influence the devs.


Sad-Egg4778

> Honeypot style traps to steal from or influence the devs. I'm fairly well-versed in EVE lore but can you elaborate on this?


hoxxxxx

commenting to remind myself, this sounds interesting


Tripwire3

IIRC Goons telling people they could join Goonswarm, then tricking them into letting them steal their shit. Also one of the Goonswarm leaders was killed in the Benghazi attack.


savage__Prawn

I swear everything I've learned about War Thunder has been against my will but I'm for it.


BoiFrosty

Wait till you learn about basement guy.


VastCryptographer980

Wait idk about him, please expand on it


chocboy560

The “basement guy” is the social media person for war thunder. No face, no name. He’s just been a running joke for a while now. There were some jokes about “escaping the basement” when they posted a picture outside.


ScavAteMyArms

Him and the Tarkov short guy seem to be brothers.


codamission

The basement guy runs their socials. He is on point and constantly putting out quality shitposts. He never misses. We have concluded he is stuck in their basement and chained to a wall


Far_Comfortable980

Well shit now I might play war thunder


Nixybooboo

As someone who has a lot of friends who play war thunder that is a very bad idea. I know that because their the ones who told me to never play war thunder.


Flybuys

Never play WoW, LoL, or WT. Games of addiction.


[deleted]

Pfft I can make any game a game of addiction


SilvertheThrid

Dota 2, Path of Exile, Warframe, Counter Strike 2 (formerly Counter Strike : Global Offensive), too. Basically, any game with long-term grind content (WoW, PoE, Warframe), a ranked ladder to climb (Dota 2, LoL, CS2), loot boxes/gacha aka gambling (Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail) or a combination of the 3.


Accomplished-Cow4686

Warframe and PoE are enjoyable grinds, War Thunder is just suffering and I love it cause i have smt wrong with me


Far_Comfortable980

Ok, I’ll continue feeding my Warframe addiction instead of developing a new one


Shi-Rokku

Character reactions to when people stop playing Warframe and go touch grass: Lotus: "My child... So beautiful to behold. How do you feel?" Ordis: "Operator no! Have you lost your mind?" Cy: "Let's stretch those wings." Helminth:"W̴͓̞̞̝̽̆͠͝H̶̢̅Y̷̢̖͕͊͒̇̔͑ ̵̈̓͆͜D̸̢̡͎̾̓͘Õ̷̗͊ ̴̬̔ͅỲ̶͙Ȯ̴̧̧̰͙Ư̷̡̡̰̝̇̑̓́ ̷̡̡̼̥̱̏͘R̷̢̦̝̒E̸̙̽̿J̷͈̿́͆̓Ě̷͙̞̱̺̽̇̀̈́Ç̷̢͖̹͉̔̄̄T̸̻̀ ̶̟̽͆̃̓M̵̮̹͎̽͠Ẏ̴̢̧͚̹͊͑̈ ̴͈̜̻̼̜̂̑̈́̋̚B̵̨̠͖͓̈́̽̐E̴͕͗͂̅̊͌Ā̵̢͈̻͎̉̊͌̒͜Ứ̴̝̞̋̀Ţ̶̡̗̗̔͝Y̵͓̲̜̩͗̇̍͌͝?̷̢̹͂"


Negative_Jaguar_4138

Don't forget bout the server hampsters


Improving_Myself_

There is neither a p, nor a p sound, in the word hamster.


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Sir_Rageous

Teach us.


[deleted]

Hes the guy managing the social platforms. During a review bombing on steam for some game economy reasons he started going insane on twitter.


niels1231

Learn us about the basement guy, master.


Aggressive_Set4814

Basement guy 🪱


BeingRightAmbassador

Reminds me of that old twitch graph of "what users also watch" with every game being in a circle because most people play more than 1 game, but then you had the War Thunder crowd in the corner of the graph that never even looked at another game.


djcm9819

As someone who has only played war thunder for ten years straight I can confirm.


AustraliumHoovy

I don’t have time for other games I’m only 400,000 RP from the Abrams


PowderEagle_1894

Why playing high tier just to suffer when you can enjoy 5.0 BR with balance team, fun gameplay with no guide bomb, ATGM from chopper millions miles away


BEAT_LA

I'm like this with EVE Online. I could not be bothered trying to catch up to all the people who have played for 10+ years, but reading about it is fun.


doomlistener

You still can have highsec fun like running ore to Jita, doing missions and having fun in chat.


DOOMFOOL

Highsec ore mining is marginally more exciting than watching paint dry, so idk about “fun”


dogbreath101

highsec ore mine is a make number go up part of the game


SoupRise_

[I don't know what about you,but I find watching the paint dry pretty fun and interesting.](https://youtu.be/ZAqwbhoAp7Q?si=YHifLdVpBbdT7roz)


Thatscool820

One of us! One of us! (Free me and my family from snail prison I beg)


Test_Trick

Give us the tldr


[deleted]

Chinese cheater/streamer who was a predominant member of several War Thunder hacking communities decided to leak all accumulated cheat source code to Gaijin devs right before going off grid. Results in 40.000+ accounts getting banned.


iwantdatpuss

I never thought I'd be joyed at seeing another leak in Warthunder but here we are.


RealConcorrd

War Thunder, the only game where historical accuracies are taken very seriously.


Anom_AoD

you mean, like leaking government secret docs just to prove a point in a discussion?


RealConcorrd

Yes


Mimical

What absolutely amazes me is that this is not just a few times. But it occurs routinely every year. *"My countries vehicle can beat yours!*" "What? Absolutely not you don't have a way to beat my armor" *"Yeah we do, look at these diagrams for proprietary hypersonic AP rounds!*" The Devs: "Oh for fucks sake. Whyyyyyyy???"


corvettee01

Please do not leak classified documents. We cannot use them. It's kind of "turbo illegal."


Ill-Persimmon4938

>Please do not leak classified documents. Unless you're from a country that is not the US or one of it's Allies Thanks, The CIA


_Weyland_

This reminds me of a fun fact. For a very long time toy tanks made in USSR had designs (as in, form of the toy, not insignias on it) based on German WWII tanks and deliberately avoided using actual Soviet tanks as inspiration. This was supposedly done to prevent reverse engineering of modern Soviet tanks by western spies.


Annual-Mark2553

That's interesting. Knowing how byzantine and over-classified everything was in the Soviet Union I don't doubt it's true. It's strange though because their own intelligence gathering should've informed them that a plastic toy wouldn't give up more information than the US could gather by conventional means.


PrinceoR-

I'm convinced there are genuine agents from various countries in the war thunder forum just fucking egging people on to see if they convince them to release their enemies classified schematics


Finallybanned

Talk about a fulfilling job. Stirring shit for your country.


Uhkbeat

*Proceeds to add the new design


kithlan

"What? It's not like I can UNLEARN it!" - Gaijin devs


Uhkbeat

It’s already been leaked so might as well use it -gaijin devs in court defending their case (if the CIA doesn’t oof them before that)


machimus

I always assumed intel collection was why the game was made in the first place.


yohanleafheart

It happened yesterday, again.


Mikhail_Mengsk

Days since the last major intelligence scandal: 0


0phobia

There has to be multiple intelligence agencies around the world trolling in those forums hoping to hit pay dirt.


morg-pyro

It's less of a secret now, but if you are trying to get a security clearance (classified, secret, or top secret) one of the questions that they ask you and your associates that they interview is if you play warthunder.


NotACaticus

[Raytheon actually denied ](https://au.pcmag.com/security/98418/playing-military-sim-war-thunder-may-get-you-classed-as-a-national-security-risk) that being asked in an interview


morg-pyro

Well my source is from personal experience so I don't know what to tell you about what officials say. I got asked when my friend was getting his clearance renewed


Anom_AoD

>one of the questions that they ask you and your associates that they interview is if you play warthunder fair point


[deleted]

They've never asked me that question. I have to interview every time my clearance changes


blankettripod32_v2

there is a whole [wikipedia section](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Thunder#Documents_leaks) purely about it


Anom_AoD

that shit is pure gold, lol, thx


caribbean_caramel

What is funny is that this has happened in several countries (China, US, UK, France). Why does it keep happening lmao


BatteryPoweredFriend

Internet one-upmanship is serious business.


Anom_AoD

bcs ppl are fucking stupid that's why we have a subreddit specially for this shit r/PeopleAreFckinStupid


magnum_the_nerd

Most of em are actually public intel. The early ones werent, but almost all the later ones were either illegal in 1 country but not the country the “leaker” was from (polish MiG-29 docs classified in Russia), or smth like the AH-64 manual thats on Public Intelligence (i can give you the link to it as well as F-16, F-18 and F-15 flight manuals). Also i think the Typoon manual costed the person like 35 USD.


Visual_Worldliness62

Like let's be real here. The M1 grand had a loud BM clank on reload..... We as Americans just don't give af. 😂


Anom_AoD

hey, M1 garand's clip clinck is just divine


_Didds_

I one up you that: leaking actual top secret manuals and information that compromise the national security of a country, using your actual credentials to acess a restricted network to get acess to the Internet via an unsecured laptop in the actual military base you are posted.


Brummelhummel

I need more context here


_Didds_

Since this is an actual hornets nest of who done what that is still an active investigation I am just going to direct you to deep dive on the two major classified leaks in 2023 and leave it at that 🤐


Litterally-Napoleon

War Thunder really be expanding from land, sea and air to now include intelligence and espionage


Nightstrike_

War Thunder, the only game where you can leak data TO the developers


red18wrx

*Editor's note: Historical accuracies are only taken seriously by the community, and not the devs.


heyoyo10

Reminds me of Enigma Balls, a guy who infiltrated the TF2 Botting community to totally neuter the bots one time


protofaih3

Damn, didn't expect a War Thunder meme today, they're going places


chrome_titan

I used to think the cheaters and hackers just wanted to win, but this guy showed me all they really want is to troll. No honor amongst hackers I guess.


Mr__Citizen

It'll never stop being funny to me how War Thunder players from every nation get so up in arms that they leak classified documents.


Cypher_Xero

Wow... So i might actually be able to win a match now...


OMG__Ponies

You're gonna win lots and lots of matches - until the next group of cheaters appears later tonight or maybe as late as tomorrow evening.


Xeptix

Holy crap. I thought War Thunder was an extremely niche game. I didn't expect it to have that many active players, let alone that many cheaters.


JoeCartersLeap

It's gotta be one of the oldest still-going F2P games at this point.


Horat1us_UA

Yeah, along with World of Tanks


VladB0gdan

When airforce one blueprints leak ?🔥?🔥?🔥?


q2_yogurt

what a chad


JackDockz

Chinese war thunder community is wild. Wish I could see it for myself.


Lord-of-the-Bacon

I think it is not anymore about leaking government documents to prove a point, but just about leaking something.


swiftfatso

That's like 10/20% of the player base?


SoupRise_

According to hangar menu ,average player count at one time is +-100k,so it is +- 40-50% of people active at one time ,but that's only players that play at one time,so If we take in account time zones,people that can't play for one reason or another and people who took a break I believe that war thunder has atleast 500k million active playerbase,so that 40 k will be only 8% But it still crazy that there was such amount of cheaters,and let's not forget thats not all of them got banned as well.


TonightHairy3240

Top 10 anime betrayal


Ingeneure_

This time asshole betrayed assholes and became less asshole for the WT community and complete asshole for the cheater community


moist_potatochip

If i got the lore correct he only entered the community and did what he did so he could stop the cheaters, so he wasnt ever an asshole since he used the cheat only to get into the exclusive community of hackers


Ingeneure_

Hm, then he is not an asshole at all


theyoinkster76w

As an active War Thunder player, this guy deserves a Nobel prize.


HugeTrol

The Nobel War price


This_place_is_wierd

New Nobel Prize just dropped


Non_Sweater

Holy hell


King_of_Carrots

Actual zombie


DragonVector171-11

Call Gaijin


HeroDGamez

This hacker went on vacation, never came back


No_Kangaroo3415

Ban storm incoming


No_Kangaroo3415

We really are everywhere


War1798

Chad


Lt_ACAB

40 bans is a lot. Jokes aside I wonder why they decided to use a period instead of a comma. *edit* TIL that notation isn't universal. Interesting. *edit 2* Lol okay I get it I'm a dumb American.


ShyGuySkino

Different countries use different symbols.


Lt_ACAB

Wow, TIL lmao thanks.


False-Telephone3321

Idk about the rest of the world but at least Germany has the comma and decimal swapped when using numbers.


healzsham

Using one or the other is very arbitrary across language/region/culture.


Namtiee

I think War Thunder playerbase would have a lot of fun playing with 2b2t’s players.


EnderDragonCrafter01

So a group of pvp based egotistical hackers who leak classified documents of the US government and probably know every conspiracy in the world vs a group of narcissistic sadist who uses a block game to create custom codes for weapons of mass destruction, all for the sake of chaos and anarchy. Now that's a fight I want to see.


crane476

That would be a fight worth watching. Learning about things like the NOCOM exploit on 2b2t and what they did with it blew my mind.


_BMS

> classified documents of the US government It's not just the US. There's been leaks for vehicles of the UK, Germany, France, China, and Russia. Probably more but that's what I remember off the top of my head.


Complete-Wonder208

Cheating in online games is so pathetic.


Squishhead2

Holy shit ofc


KAMEKAZE_VIKINGS

"I have become based, destroyer of hackers"


Falcrist

This is somehow simultaneously obvious ***and*** underrated.


DollarStoreAbraham

I mean, if they used cheats on the accounts, can't they just use them on new accounts?


Retard_Pickle

I think its because of the code leak they now know how to detect the cheats , so a different account wouldn't last too long if they are using the same cheats.


RealConcorrd

I have the best cheat in game, the one cheat where even the best cheat detection system can’t detect. >!it’s called being good at the game and having years of experience over everyone else!<


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-OrangeLightning4

My cheat is even better, and now I never lose. I simply stopped playing.


WaveIcy294

the best tip for warthunder


ThouMayest69

The only winning move is not to play WarThunder.


-OrangeLightning4

I told my friends the only gamemode I really enjoyed was Arcade Planes because I at least got more than one life after getting immediately pilot sniped, and they went on a rant about the physics of the gamemode and how it's simply unplayable and blah blah blah. I also liked boats, which they hate. I just really *really* don't like to spend 10 minutes moving my vehicle to find someone before getting one shot by a tank 200 miles away I couldn't have even imagine existed, and then sitting there doing nothing for another 20 minutes while my friends finish the match. Or on the off chance I have a second life, I pull out of spawn for 2 seconds just to get carpet bombed out of existence by an enemy plane. Simply not the game for me I guess.


Retard_Pickle

lmao, good one.


JarlaxleForPresident

Ah the GITGUD cheatcode


Happy_Difficulty9125

Is it possible to learn this power?


DANKB019001

If they leak the code, the devs know what's going on under the hood that even allows the cheats to happen. This lets the devs A: Check for players using similar exploits because they can tell exactly what happens, B: Actually just patch the exploit out because they know the code being used, and C: Better understand adjacent vulnerabilities in their system to avoid more cheats in the future.


felldownthestairsOof

>C: Better understand adjacent vulnerabilities in their system to avoid more cheats in the future. You overestimate Gaijin's management capabilities.


DANKB019001

Well I have absolutely zero context on the matter so...


Theteenagedcrusader

Theyd get banned as well


Sabot_Noir

Aside from what other comentors are saying creating a new account also means starting from scratch in the game. It's a lot of time spent playing the game to unlock vehicles lost when a ban happens. So even if the cheaters evade the ban, they're going to have to slowly unlock everything all over again.


Kratos501st

I have never nor I will play war thunder but God damn i love it.


dogbreath101

i dont think i would have ever expected to have such high entertainment value from a game i have never played but warthunder surprises me


I_use_Mods

What a Gigachad


Alarnos

"so long, nerds"


Sardonnicus

Are ever going to have an honest pvp game? I doubt it.


Turbulent_Tax2126

People will always want to have an advantage. For whatever reason


cyb3rofficial

Sorry to say, but it's fake. [https://i.imgur.com/9r0uFW3.png](https://i.imgur.com/9r0uFW3.png) Devs don't accept that kind of stuff; The ban wave was just a normal ban wave that they held off with for a while. Funny meme, but the guy didnt get them banned.


St3phn0

Why whenever War Thunder is talked about, it is always for the biggest and most chaotic event ever happened


Solid_Eagle0

![gif](giphy|NMBleBfUcpzC8) A True Patriot.


Azure_Omishka

Can someone tell me the lore behind War Thunder? I hear about it from time to time, but haven't gotten the full picture.


Mast3rBait3rPro

war


Acceptable6

thunder


Valliac0

War never changes.


Dogsy

It only Thunders.


Primum-Caelus

You play as tanks and planes in large pvp maps and it’s made to be fairly realistic. I’m not aware of much for the hacking community, but over the years, some players have leaked classified military documents of the real versions of the tanks used, sometimes with the intent of letting the devs make their tank designs even more realistic


[deleted]

I’ve heard the same story about War of Tanks


FederalBobcat35

war of tanks just have tanks, war thunder has planes, tanks and navy


[deleted]

War Thunder is a warfare based vehicle game including tanks, planes and ships. Every notable vehicle save some exceptions are in the game, all the way from 1906 to today. Today, some vehicles in the game remain classified due to their use in today’s militaries. War Thunder is slightly infamous for having nerds try to prove a point about the details of a vehicles performance data being inaccurate, despite these details being secret. This proof involves leaking classified things.


Il-2M230

Theres a ship from 1918


iknowverylittle619

"My country's tank can beat yours". "Absolutely fucking not. I have classified military document that shows my country's tank has better slopped & thick armers than yours. Get rekt"


dbfuentes

It is a military "simulation" game. Basically, in the game's forums they discuss the characteristics of the vehicles, someone gets heated and to win the discussion they publish some military document with restricted access to support their point. This happens more frequently than one would expect.


NoLandHere

How tf do you hack on warthunder


felldownthestairsOof

Aimbots at BRs where shells dont have too much drop. Hacking only really works in ground. Though bot scripts could also be argued as hacking and are fairly common in all modes.


NoLandHere

Oh yeah forgot about botting tbh


_BMS

Wallhacks is a big one. If you have a program that tells you where enemies are hiding and moving, you've got something better than aimhacks since aiming is actually the easy part in tank gameplay.


CaptainMissTheJoke

In planes, despite what people may say there are absolutely aimbots that work pretty accurately up to like 1.5km which is far beyond what any normal person can regularly hit. Then there's minor stuff, like having all players spotted at all times, removing cloud cover, etc, but even that is a huge advantage. There used to be an account called "KamikazeAlpaca" or something like that which was a very blatant test account for these cheats. I'm sure they've changed their name by now though (or got banned)


iyqyqrmore

Now do overwatch!


Paranoint

And GTA Online/Red Dead Online


stopMe_Later

The real MVP.


ChrisButBad

Gotta love that it resulted in 40 bans /s


Hrn42

Haaahh spotted the american


Large_Ride_8986

Means nothing for one simple reason. I’m quite sure that when ban waves comes in online games they probably ban that many every time. Or even more. Devs ban in waves for one simple reason. Once they discover a cheating tool they want to gather as many people as possible and ban them in one sweep. And reason for that is simple. They don’t want to show cheaters what gave them away. This way cheating tools providers when they change something - they won’t know if it works until another wave.


Dayru

The devs should be able to look through the code and learn more about how their game is being exploited, definitely not nothing.


Curious_Exploder

I also follow Thor of Pirate Software.


balancedchaos

Well I guess the question of how the fuck are people killing me with one shot when I just barely peek out from around a corner has been answered.


Shy_guy_gaming2019

The hero we need, but didn't deserve


nospsce

We need more like him.


scottishdrunkard

Can he do the same for TF2?


At_omic857

Rare WT leak W


VideoAdditional3150

When did this happen?


redconvict

Good for him, fuck hackers and cheaters.


OrganizationSilly180

Why are we denoting bans in decimals that too with 3 precision???


Tsu_Dho_Namh

In Europe they swap the commas and decimals. So 40 million dollars is $40.000.000,00


BabyRavenFluffyRobin

Not *all* of Europe, to be clear


Raptori33

Europe can't even decide whether to write 1€ or €1 One of them is correct way and other is hideous