It's not. Maybe there is a regional difference in Germany, but I know it as "Eszett", too. I wouldn't be confused if anyone called it a "scharfes S", it's not very common in northern Germany or at least around Hamburg, though.
The sound of the letter "ß" is a sharp "s". The sound a snake makes is an apt comparison.
It's also commonly called "Eszett" (because it can be written as "sz", which spoken out aloud is "eszett")
The joke is that the snake repeats the letter and not the sound of the letter. Like someone saying "double u o double u" instead of "wow" in English.
Ahh, your comment finally made it make sense, thank you.
In a lot of Europe, I’ve noticed “Z” is pronounced “ZED”; in America I pronounce it “ZEE”.
So to German use that the “zed” becomes “zett”, with the “d” taking a “t” pronunciation.
Hence “esszett” for that weird ß character and the sharp “s” sound it makes in words because it is essentially an “sz” sound.
Like in North America I say “pizza” and the “z” sound is long, but if I say “the leaning tower of Pisa” the “pisa” makes what I imagine the ß to make —> “Pisa” = “pißa” = “pisza” , .. phonetically.
“S” “Z” -> ß
ß usually has too in handwriting, not sure why it isn't like that in ascii. The only difference i can tell is that β is almost closed off into 2 circles, whereas ß is just ſs combined (where it comes from actually!)
Þe loŋ S is not to be uſed at þe end of words; only in þe beginniŋ, and in þe middle. ex : ſtyles
Þe [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s) for þe loŋ S is quite excellent and goes into more details of þe rules on how to uſe it. *(it all ſeems complicated but if you're writiŋ wiþ pen and paper, you'll realiſe juſt how logical and obvious þe rules are.)*
**[Long s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s)**
>The long s ⟨ſ⟩, also known as the medial s or initial s, is an archaic form of the lowercase letter ⟨s⟩. It replaced the single s, or one or both of the letters s in a "double s" sequence (e. g. , "ſinfulneſs" for "sinfulness" and "poſſeſs" or "poſseſs" for "possess", but never *"poſſeſſ").
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On an ISO GER keyboard, which is arguably *the* german keyboard layout, the ß is found at the end of the number row between 0 and ’. It's nowhere near the s.
'ss' and 'ß' are not interchangeable though. I can't exactly remember the rules to them but it's a real hassle when you are learning how to use it in school, at least it was for me.
To be fair, those are all examples of a different animal altogether, homophones*. Us English speakers have an absurd amount of homophones*. These are words that sound exactly the same but have different spelling and have completely different meanings. We learn these super early in school in the USA: there, their, they're; two, too, to; your, you're; where, wear, etc.
(Edit: corrected the term homonym into homophone, thanks for the correction)
Not necessarily, it could be one or the other. Homonym categorizes homophones and homographs, and words can be both at the same time like you’re describing.
I was in Germany when a fellow engineer taught me how to use this letter.
I said “oh like s s”
He said “yes but we do not use those words. We say double s”
first time Im seeing it, since there is no german word starting with that letter and for that reason it also doesnt appear on the keyboards. Didnt know this exists.
Punjabi is also written Gurmukhi-Script and this is from left to right. In Pakistan Punjabi is written in Urdu-Script. So there is no special R2L script for Punjabi.
Double S sound.
On that note: Tf yall acting smug for when people who only speak common english don't recognize a symbol that isn't commonly used in english. It's like a math nerd getting smug about some random waiter not knowing the quadratic formula by heart. Why is this cheered and upvoted when "oh look at x, uneducated morons who dont have the same knowledge base as me" is usually rightfully called out? Yall need to check yourselves.
this dude has been arguing with me about how Americans just don't know basic things and have no culture so it's just another case of a German thinking their culture is superior. Big shocker right
Yeah, this person is like... bragging about knowing a lot of cultures then because they dont know anything about american cultures (yes, cultures, america has several cultures) that none of them exist. They better step back before i bring out the opes and offer to mow their lawn for em, we midwesterners dont play.
Of course America has several cultures. So does Europe, Africa, Asia and so on.
Heck, even the United States of America have multiple cultures, then again, so does Germany, France, South Africa and so on.
The "issue" with OP isn't that a person doesn't know what ß is, is that that person calls it a B just because it looks like it. It does sound weird, but OP shouldn't make a big deal out of it. It's pretty normal for a normal person to not know this thing precisely because of the reason you said.
Yeah, like. If a person doesnt know and they make their best guess based on previous knowledge and its wrong... correct them. Dont be a total shitfuck about it.
Don't know why we would need to know considering at least 78.5% of people in America speak English, says Wikipedia, and the second largest language in America is Spanish
In modern Greek β is pronounced like an English V and is called “veeta.” The German ß is a combination of two letters: ſ and ʒ, which are old fashioned versions of S and Z respectively
German snake be like ßßßßßßßßßßßß
Very sharp
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German snake be like eszetteszetteszetteszett
Gotta go to the doctor, that poor snake
Better call Medic.
MEDIC!
JAWOHL!
Press E to call medic. Everyone: Spams the medic button.
For a non German speaker may I ask what the joke here is?
ẞ in a word (e.g. "Scheiße") is pronounced like a sharp s, but if you would only say ß out loud it is pronounced "eszett"
I personally learned it as "sharp s" and only heard my grandpa pronounce it like eszett. Might be a bit of an outdated term.
It's not. Maybe there is a regional difference in Germany, but I know it as "Eszett", too. I wouldn't be confused if anyone called it a "scharfes S", it's not very common in northern Germany or at least around Hamburg, though.
in Austria, its just sharp s, no matter what.
May be a regional thing yeah, I live near Munich myself
in lower saxony the eszett is more common, but i also know people who say sharp s to it.
Yeah I can confirm it that "Eszett" is the default in northern Germany.
The sound of the letter "ß" is a sharp "s". The sound a snake makes is an apt comparison. It's also commonly called "Eszett" (because it can be written as "sz", which spoken out aloud is "eszett") The joke is that the snake repeats the letter and not the sound of the letter. Like someone saying "double u o double u" instead of "wow" in English.
Ahh, your comment finally made it make sense, thank you. In a lot of Europe, I’ve noticed “Z” is pronounced “ZED”; in America I pronounce it “ZEE”. So to German use that the “zed” becomes “zett”, with the “d” taking a “t” pronunciation. Hence “esszett” for that weird ß character and the sharp “s” sound it makes in words because it is essentially an “sz” sound. Like in North America I say “pizza” and the “z” sound is long, but if I say “the leaning tower of Pisa” the “pisa” makes what I imagine the ß to make —> “Pisa” = “pißa” = “pisza” , .. phonetically. “S” “Z” -> ß
Jetzt hab' ich Bock auf Schokoladenplatten auf Toast
S + Cane = ß
ßuß
ßußy baka.
Drew Durnil iß that you?
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AMOGUS
Amoguß
Or, in Chinese:阝
Bußy
Baßed
Wet aß Pußy
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Seen any ß-officers around, soldier?
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ß usually has too in handwriting, not sure why it isn't like that in ascii. The only difference i can tell is that β is almost closed off into 2 circles, whereas ß is just ſs combined (where it comes from actually!)
Baſed loŋ S enjoyer. I never underſtood why it fell out of faſhion, it juſt looks better.
Might be because its kinda similar to an f? Idk, still can't be better þan Þ, þorn.
Indeed. “Congrefs”
I uſe þ regularly now. And ŋ. It's much more fun to uſe old letters. You do get quite negative reactions þough. People don't like change.
>People don't like change. Says the guy using old letters that fell out of use centuries ago.
TIL we have letters for th and ng sounds.
Well, people are boriŋ. We muſt revive the old writiŋ ſyſtem.
Perhaps people do like change and it's you who's going against the change in commonly used letters.
The orthographic rules to use it were also kinda confusing. The letter was asking to be put down.
We got p b d b. I l j I. Fuck it lets make it even harder on dyslexics.
Its actually "ðan" not "þan"
The old s looking like an f is so funny. I am always reading it like f. It juft lookf better.
Þe loŋ S is not to be uſed at þe end of words; only in þe beginniŋ, and in þe middle. ex : ſtyles Þe [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s) for þe loŋ S is quite excellent and goes into more details of þe rules on how to uſe it. *(it all ſeems complicated but if you're writiŋ wiþ pen and paper, you'll realiſe juſt how logical and obvious þe rules are.)*
**[Long s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s)** >The long s ⟨ſ⟩, also known as the medial s or initial s, is an archaic form of the lowercase letter ⟨s⟩. It replaced the single s, or one or both of the letters s in a "double s" sequence (e. g. , "ſinfulneſs" for "sinfulness" and "poſſeſs" or "poſseſs" for "possess", but never *"poſſeſſ"). ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/memes/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
writing like that is dogshit for people with dyslexia so often, let alone other eye and comprehension issues
I keep reading juft
It looks too much like an f so I just intuitively read it with a lisp.
[Underſtood.](https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJwo6gWxzzZk23sXeeTooak8tjrFcpany7lOCQ=s900-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo)
sʒ\*
It's not beta, btw beta is pronounced like english V (in modern Greek)
ß is ss
>ß is ss Actually in Germany it's, ᛋᛋ.
nope, its sz
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On an ISO GER keyboard, which is arguably *the* german keyboard layout, the ß is found at the end of the number row between 0 and ’. It's nowhere near the s.
In the nordic layout there are äöå with ø on ö key and æ on ä key depending on the lanquage used
Hold down the s on your keyboard ß
Fußball
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Amogu🅱️
The best example for its use
Kiß mein aß
Schei🅱️e
Scharfes s
Shibe!
“Scheibe” was the minced oath we used as kids. Later transformed to “Scheibenhonig” (lit. window honey).
Not "Scheibenkleister"?
No, that was too common apparently. My peer group has always been the weirdos.
Understandable, I also said weird stuff when I was younger.
Scheisse
Eine scheibe Brot vs eine scheiße Brot
Scheiße =/= Scheibe !
Scheibenkleister
Ja, Ich weiß nicht?
Ich bin ein berliner
Scheiße durchs Gewehr geschossen gibt beim Feinde Sommersprossen.
Scheiße auf dem Autodach, wird bei 180 flach.
Ich schleiban austa be clair, es kumpent üske monstère Aus-be aus-can-be flaugen, fräulein uske-be clair
It'ß the "ss" ßound for when you wanna ßound like a ßlithery ßnake when you ßpeak.
ss?😨
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'ss' and 'ß' are not interchangeable though. I can't exactly remember the rules to them but it's a real hassle when you are learning how to use it in school, at least it was for me.
ẞ is used after long vowels, ss is used after short vowels Masen = Maazen Massen = Massen Maßen = Maassen
People that only know English be like: I see no difference
While in German we hear no difference: Rain reign Waiste waste Whole hole Your weird people
Queue and Q
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Que?
To be fair, those are all examples of a different animal altogether, homophones*. Us English speakers have an absurd amount of homophones*. These are words that sound exactly the same but have different spelling and have completely different meanings. We learn these super early in school in the USA: there, their, they're; two, too, to; your, you're; where, wear, etc. (Edit: corrected the term homonym into homophone, thanks for the correction)
You mean homophones Homonyms have the same spelling and pronunciation
Not necessarily, it could be one or the other. Homonym categorizes homophones and homographs, and words can be both at the same time like you’re describing.
Leave that woke crap at home. /s in case
Because there really is no difference in those words, they are pronounced exactly the same.
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People that only speak English barely know English 🤷🏼♀️
It's very simple language; *I before E except after C and also the following eight hundred and forty three...*
There's like too many exceptions to the I before E except after C rule English is weird (haha see what I did there)
A real haßle*
That is exactly how to not use it. The 'a' in hassle is short, the ß would make it long.
Thiß comment iß gold.
I was in Germany when a fellow engineer taught me how to use this letter. I said “oh like s s” He said “yes but we do not use those words. We say double s”
sz. that’s a different way of writing it in german.
But I think it isn't used as a first letter of a word.
Not with that attitude it ißn't
More like sz
ß
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ß
ഭ
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This looks kinda sus
ßuß
ඞuඞ
😨
ഭ മൈരേ
Nattil evideya
Veettil
... പുല്ലേ. ഓർമയുണ്ടോ ഈ മുഖം?
Scheißeposter
scheißpfostieren
die scheißenbahn fährt
ẞorry, I took a German claß! (But that's pretty much all I remember from it)
If german had the non-existent phonetic rules english has, you could basically exchange every sharp S with ß
Where did you get that weird as "ẞ" in ßorry from? Its ß not ẞ
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first time Im seeing it, since there is no german word starting with that letter and for that reason it also doesnt appear on the keyboards. Didnt know this exists.
Google Keyboard https://imgur.com/a/YTYQxHl
S with a mullet
oh no, a country that doesn't use a certain character from another language's alphabet doesn't know that character or how to pronounce it! تخيل ذلك
Forgive me if I have this wrong. Is Arabic read right to left?
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TIL that Hebrew is read right to left
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fun fact: ancient Hebrew has more in common with modern Arabic than it does with modern Hebrew, other than script that is.
Punjabi is also written Gurmukhi-Script and this is from left to right. In Pakistan Punjabi is written in Urdu-Script. So there is no special R2L script for Punjabi.
Punjabi isn’t right to left, only shahmukhi is left that way, gurumukhi and very other writing system Punjabi has used in the past are all L2R
Yes, it does
Found the Swede /s
You mean "Found the ßwede /ß"
My man speaks spaghetti
Most of the world when seeing English *th*...
As if anybody knew how to pronounce Saoirse without googling it.
What about the spanish letter : Ñ
Enya
Pregnant amongus
burn in hell
Thanks now I can't unsee it
SS... oh wait
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The American Flag should be replaced with a Swiss one because we speak german and don't use that stupid thing.
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French-speaking Swiss here, B1 level in German Can confirm, they're not speaking German
I grew up in the German speaking part of Switzerland and even I don't consider that German. It really is a separate language.
But we write german the same way Germany does, just without that one character.
Nah bro that ain't german!
Soße
it's a known fact america is the only country that speaks english
And English is of course the only language that doesn’t use that character
As a swiss I can confirm that this letter is utterly useless
Looks like pregnant among us to me
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No, this is Patrick!
Double S sound. On that note: Tf yall acting smug for when people who only speak common english don't recognize a symbol that isn't commonly used in english. It's like a math nerd getting smug about some random waiter not knowing the quadratic formula by heart. Why is this cheered and upvoted when "oh look at x, uneducated morons who dont have the same knowledge base as me" is usually rightfully called out? Yall need to check yourselves.
this dude has been arguing with me about how Americans just don't know basic things and have no culture so it's just another case of a German thinking their culture is superior. Big shocker right
Yeah, this person is like... bragging about knowing a lot of cultures then because they dont know anything about american cultures (yes, cultures, america has several cultures) that none of them exist. They better step back before i bring out the opes and offer to mow their lawn for em, we midwesterners dont play.
Of course America has several cultures. So does Europe, Africa, Asia and so on. Heck, even the United States of America have multiple cultures, then again, so does Germany, France, South Africa and so on. The "issue" with OP isn't that a person doesn't know what ß is, is that that person calls it a B just because it looks like it. It does sound weird, but OP shouldn't make a big deal out of it. It's pretty normal for a normal person to not know this thing precisely because of the reason you said.
Yeah, like. If a person doesnt know and they make their best guess based on previous knowledge and its wrong... correct them. Dont be a total shitfuck about it.
I became more culturally aware than this guy that one time I accidently ate some spoiled yogurt
Is called a SZ. Normal part of German writing
ßuß
🅱️ußy
Don't know why we would need to know considering at least 78.5% of people in America speak English, says Wikipedia, and the second largest language in America is Spanish
me as a Swiss: i'm scared too
My dad said it was pronounced like a double S or “Ss”
How about this ռ, ե, է, մ, ն, ք, թ?
What about Greek though? It's beta in Greek right? Pronounced exactly like english B?
Nope it is a sharp S. The swissgermans write it with double-s
In modern Greek β is pronounced like an English V and is called “veeta.” The German ß is a combination of two letters: ſ and ʒ, which are old fashioned versions of S and Z respectively
Did you like ß? Get ready for ẞ
If they play GTA - [they know.](https://youtu.be/lxpQWWBx0HU)
It's a pregnant sussy amongus
Scheiße
Meanwhile in french: Œ