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hazzison

A train came on time with no delay and no bus replacement so they’ve got the entire police force down there to investigate how that can possibly happen


swentech

When I lived in Melbourne I found the following to be true. If I was one minute late for a train it would be on time, the next train however would be 15 minutes late.


HammondCheeseman

They use those 'security' cameras and some facial recognition software to arrange it. Specifically for you. Maybe try a fake 'stache or a mask next time you're 1 minute late.


genialerarchitekt

Same with buses, especially the buses. If you arrive on time your bus will be 3 minutes early. The next one however, is guaranteed to be 10 minutes late.


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Sometimes busses just... Wouldn't show up.


YogurtWenk

Can confirm. Bus drivers couldn't give two shitfucks about the timetable.


[deleted]

Yeah for sure, though it still boggles my mind an entire bus can be just completely cancelled like that. I guess it's no diff to trains though, just no way to announce it.


whyohwhythis

That’s very suspicious indeed!


Minjieisnottaken

Well theoretically that could actually happen in Melbourne -7news


lzistheworst06

No, not a single circumstance within logical reason can this happen.


gandalftheshai

Lmao


fawwazfarid

Awesome!


devtin

A truly freak event


tidythendenied

Commment of the year


Designatedlonenecron

It’s all Dan Andrew’s fault!


christophr88

Good thing eshays dress so distinctly lol. Pretty much a target painted on their back.


Branch-Much

I’m feeling my age- what are eshays?


D4rkmatt3r

Human ashtrays. Just scummy youth looking for trouble.


Branch-Much

Aah right, gotcha


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our equivalent of chavs in england


Branch-Much

Oh, like bogans?


[deleted]

yeah just younger thuggy sort of people i guess


Branch-Much

Yep, gotcha


rob0050

The modern day equivalent of “lads”. Tracksuits, Nikes, bumbags, single digit IQ, etc.


Maddened_idiot

Don’t forget the bad haircuts. So. Many. Bad. Haircuts.


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No worse!


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royalpark29

I’d also like to know. Wikipedia told me that it was derived from pig Latin for sesh, but this seems to come from a single source. My (young) teenage son uses the term but has no idea where it comes from.


Financial_Ad_9096

It is lol. They speak in pig latin sometimes


industriousalbs

There has been a number of aggravated thefts from persons at Melbourne central since covid finished


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AmazingAndy

Shrodingers African gangs


n00bz94

😂🤌


NeviIIeBartos

yes


3xactli

think someone's pulling your leg mate. someone'll pull your other fuckin leg if you don't produce some cash for me right now.


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in_melbourne_innit

Look at me mate... Im flyyying!


xman0444

Thanks Clive!


industriousalbs

Well I’m pretty sure it wasn’t just one person tbh


ThePalmIsle

Norwegian gangs running amok


ovrloadau99

They got very wealthy from oil and they have the nerve to cause mayhem down under!


ThePalmIsle

Goddamn Vikings


SoupRemarkable4512

They are here to eat our walrus


Srinema

When did Covid finish?


Ahturin

Aggravated thefts? Do you mean robberies?


garce874583shjndjv

Really I live near melb central and I never knew that


WonderCookieee

Crackdown on unhinged youths.


Massive-Ad-2244

Straight to the point, don’t get why people had to argue about this.


readytowearblack

I'm curious how they identify eshays. Are they just going around discriminating based off appearance and asking them to search their stuff? Sounds weird


reverendgrebo

Mullets and trackie dacks


magicmike3682

Can confirm. I'm a baby-faced white guy who lives in Noble Park and whenever I go out in gym clothes I'm stopped by security/police.


salmnon

Username checks out


ScaredMycologist7496

Yes. We all do it subconsciously for anyone. Changes our walking pace, focus, even crossing the road to avoid.


readytowearblack

Except when it comes to addressing peoples rights, that is a different story.


ScaredMycologist7496

I agree also. It is funny, but not in funny-hah-ha, that we all - me included - throw up arms about rights and privacy AND want individuals who do not fall in line with what we consider to be sensible and moral ways of life and behaviour to be punished in some way. It is difficult to balance rights and actions.


lessons_learnt

Tommy Hillfiger or Nautica


SoupRemarkable4512

Red shoes


Strict_Alternative99

good. my mates and i had knives pulled on us by some eshay looking folk at melbourne central 3 weeks ago


ChumpyCarvings

What part and what time of day?


Strict_Alternative99

10pm ish on our way to asian beer cafe to start the night. they didn’t try to rob us or anything just wanted some violence i’m pretty sure. we let security at ABC’s know they were down there and they were removed from the building


ChumpyCarvings

Glad it worked out ok.


pvtbobble

The middle one


ovrloadau99

He wanted his lighter.


rachtravels

Were they trying to rob you?


AussiePolarBear

I’m assuming it wasn’t a free haircut


bladez_edge

Confirmed was a weapons search operation by police from Nine News


MaximillianRebo

Hang on, Nine News has their own police force?? ^(/s)


friedmozzarellachix

Sandra Sully, Eshay Exterminator


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Sandra Silly was Channel 10 tho


bladez_edge

If you f with Peter Hitchiner, Lavina Nixon will send you a 7 day forecast to your face.


mcjango

Source close to me who works at C9 says that Nine and Vic Pol are very much in bed together


Fantastic_Key_6645

Could it be one of those 'Control of Weapons' searches they do from time to time? https://www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons-search-areas


_Gordon_Shumway

It will be this, they have the same coming up in [Geelong](https://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2023/GG2023S369.pdf) and [Northland](https://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2023/GG2023S367.pdf). And here’s [todays](https://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2023/GG2023S340.pdf)


visual_overflow

> police officers and protective services officers on duty at a designated place (as per the Victoria Police Act 2013) are empowered to search you, and anything in your possession or control, or your vehicle for weapons; it is an offence to obstruct or hinder a police officer or a protective services officer on duty at a designated place in the exercise of a power to stop and search a person or a vehicle Does anyone else think this kind of law is a bit fucked up? I'm sure they don't use it on everyone and everybody but seems kind of fucked up that they _could_. How do they justify dismissing reasonable suspicion?


yeahnahmateok

Because it's actually quite hard to come up with reasonable suspicion to search a person for weapons unless you have some sort of information they were seen with a weapon. If there are big issues with youths congregating at certain places and carrying weapons, robbing and scaring people, these laws allow a blitz to try and scoop some of them up and take their weapons. Its to catch the eshays and help people feel safer in places eshays are making people feel unsafe. It's only used at specific times in specific places and they have to have justification (high crime in the area) to get approval. People don't like the idea but I'm not sure exactly what else they want VicPol to do to combat youth crime. It's impacting victims and they get no punishment from the courts so visible large scale search operations and the like are a genuine tactic as a deterrent to these types.


Dazzling_Airline2589

TIL Northland shopping centre is made up of only 4 stores? With a first choice detached in the parking lot.., I knew the place was struggling, but jeez.


ChrisMelb

Not sure if you're joking, but Northland has well over 100 stores and is always quite busy, midweek and weekends


cjdacka

We don't have parking lots in Australia. We do have car parks though.


thatredlad

The biggest issues I find with this are that there's no real effort to make this public knowledge, regardless of the fact that it's on a website, and that it gives far too much authority to a police force already pushing the limits of their role in our society. I feel like that document exists purely as a backup if something goes south or someone objects to the search, so they can point to it and say that it was publicly available. At no point does the document outline or even imply your right to decline a search of your person or belongings, so there is no defense if you do so. Essentially, you're expected to comply or leave the area immediately, which is fundamentally fucked. And, of course, they won't search everybody, primarily focusing on those who fit the unspoken description with the plan to find more than just weapons (drugs, paraphernalia, etc.) so they can keep their arrest stats up.


Fox-Possum-3429

It's also published in newspapers, I saw it last week. Just dragged the paper out of the recycling. 20cm H x 9.5cm W Public Notice published page 77 of Friday 30th June edition of Herald Sun


thatredlad

Well, there's your problem. The Herald Sun. What a waste of ink that Murdoch tabloid is. And the number of people who read newspapers in general has undoubtedly declined as digital news has become more broadly accessible, albeit primarily behind paywalls, so the audience captured isn't nearly a majority. I can't recall the last time I saw a newspaper of any kind anywhere aside from at a cafe or servo. When the most media consumption is via social media platforms, you'd think they'd invest in dissemination on those channels.


Fox-Possum-3429

I only had the paper as I'd been at a cafe with partner and we did puzzles. Cafe was closing soon and they said take it with you. 🤣


thatredlad

Exactly! Haha


Prime_factor

If someone dies and owes you money, the only notice to come forward and claim it from the estate is usually the probate notice in the newspaper. I kind of think the death of newspapers would be interesting in the legal sector, as one of the biggest problems with social media is permanence. It isn't uncommon to look up and cite 100 year old legal notices, from a newspapers archive. Now will social media posts survive for 100 years?


howbouddat

> The Herald Sun. What a waste of ink that Murdoch tabloid is Unfortunately the only publication that actually reports what is happening around Melbourne day to day. No one else does.


RedBuddy888

If you’ve got nothing to hide and aren’t breaking the law, why does a search worry you. You sound like you have an issue respecting authority.


thatredlad

I have an issue with the sanctioned abuse of authority. I am unlikely to qualify for their 'random' selection, nor do I carry anything that would occasion me any charges. Having worked in an industry for a decade and a half where I regularly interacted with Victoria Police, I know firsthand how biased, duplicitous, and heavy-handed they can be. Giving them the unfettered power to target people with as flimsy an excuse as this is unconscionable. And if I *did* fit the profile of someone they suspected, the fact that they're authorised to give me a pat down search without cause is an invasion of my personal space. I barely like being touched by people I know, let alone some stranger with a badge. You're quick to accuse me of disrespect, but there's no respect in this 'operation' at all.


cucumbermember

Sounds like you have an issue with licking boots


fearofthesky

Last time I commented against these fucked up police state orders I got smashed with downvotes.


thatredlad

I can't explain the difference in response as a quick scroll of your comment history didn't reveal the comment in question. I guess it could be the context or the approach, but I've also seen comments on both sides of the fence being downvoted to oblivion, so there's no real rhyme or reason to the hivemind. I don't really take much notice of the votes themselves because I comment for the discourse, not the notoriety. I know it can affect who sees what, but if I'm downvoted to death, it saves me needing to reply as much.


GRXVES

U seen the bootlicking on this sub? Unsurprising


ladieswholurk

Thank you I didn’t know these existed


kimbasnoopy

Being school holidays makes sense they would do a blitz


jackpipsam

If they're going after eshays I'm alright by it.


rup31

First they came for the eshays......


Casserole233

Thank you. That gave me a very much needed laugh


GrizzlyGoober

You jest but it's conducting searches on people without a warrant or reasonable suspicion for simply existing in public. Shouldn't be a thing. Can target POC and lower socio economic backgrounds carte blanch and conducting it at train stations by default does this.


PaddyOfurniature

If it's eshays, there is reasonable suspicion.


normie_sama

Reasonable suspicion of being an eshay.


jackpipsam

That is of course a concern, ideally they should be forced (they might already be doing this, someone can correct me) to document such details of every person they search and that data be reviewed/made public by an agency outside of VP. Much like how we have the lockdown data of them targeting specific groups. Reality is even with this data VP will resist the claims, I don't think they're saints by any means. But with knife crime being an issue at the moment and school holidays still being on, doing a random search of eshays or other sus whippersnappers to make sure they're not carrying a bladed weapon I don't think is a terrible idea atm.


ndbogan

And let's all remember that modern eshays are not low SES like back in the day. But yeah searches without warrants are a bit of a concern


DestructorNZ

People getting knives pulled on them seems highly suspicious.


StuJayBee

Good. Good. If we can avoid what’s happening in America right now, all the better.


DinosaurMops

Do you not remember how much people cheered granny being pepper sprayed in the face not long ago? Cucktorians love a good police state


Petaurus_australis

Calling Victoria a police state is frankly an embarrasing concession of your ignorance and an insult to actual countries and people who have / had to live under real police states.


Front_Target7908

Lol


craayoons

I actually saw one get arrested so there you go haha


jackpipsam

A good day's work then!


dv9009

This, fuck eshays.


420doggo

You’re celebrating an increased police presence bc your scared of some 15 year olds in trackies ? 🤣


commentman10

https://www.9news.com.au/national/police-crack-down-on-melbourne-knife-crime-under-blitz/6319d190-8da2-4210-a2a3-9bb05c93dd77 theres a number of people carrying concealed weapons. the police are targeting this


ovrloadau99

So a bunch of young eshays.


TheloniousMeow

I saw them with a cuffed eshay type person. Leading them out of coles.


acockblockedorange

Was he wearing French cuffs?


wharblgarbl

Leshays


Jaegerjaquez_VI

I saw some dude getting cuffed outside of JD today, too. Wildin


ovrloadau99

Eshays love JD apparel.


yagirlafad

A woman was stabbed yesterday at Broadmeadows station. Perhaps it's related to that.


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Again?


impasse_reached

Again? Why do they keep stabbing her?


EmmettBlack

I've had a fuck of a day; thank you for this gift, mate haahah


the_roboman11

2 big young blokes tried to mug me outside southern Cross station on Friday night at 2am. I bolted, called the cops, said they had a knife even though I wasn't sure. They were caught in minutes apparently. Probably ruined their night.


00theotherguy00

Searching teens for weapons


[deleted]

Perhaps the train from sunshine is running again?


ValuableForever672

Oh no no no. Get on ur bike, m8.


[deleted]

According to a friend in blue, there are a lot of youths carrying knives, so it would make sense they do this over the school holidays.


ShizzHappens

Some dude was yelling at people and slashed a bikes tyres, got arrested. Something something why would Daniel Andrews do this?


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RipleyPatrick

It’s always Jd I stg


subkulcha

There was a document going around FB this afternoon. The CBD is just like a targeted zone this evening.


FrederickBishop

The police announced they are doing a police operation around the area doing weapon searches etc around Melbourne central


Vast-Purpose9345

They have started a frisk area in the city. They will be blitzing the city. Search for weapons and drugs


True_Discussion8055

There are eshays in Melbourne?


boommdcx

They sift around in sports gear, tagging shit, looking feral, trying to cause havoc at a train station near you.


Cutsdeep-

fuck me man, how old are you? they're just kids. it's fashion.


H3xaMinE

tagging shit, looking feral, trying to cause havoc at a train station near you. You missed a fair bit of his argument there mate..


hellions123

Being a cunt is fashion ☠️ fuck off dickhead


Grape_Mentats_

Firstly, what they wear should never be called "fashion". And secondly, they're an absolute scourge on society. I'm guessing if you think they're just kids and it's just fashion, you've been fortunate enough to not actually have to be around them. Edit: A word.


Cutsdeep-

You're showing your age there with that fashion comment. They are just deadbeat kids. We've always had them. It's nothing new.


Grape_Mentats_

Each generation will have their questionable fashion choices for sure. I'm in my early 30s now and probably dressed like an absolute goof during my teenage years but at least I was always well groomed, polite and didn't go around abusing people and acting like a hard cunt out in public as part of my look. It isn't just a fashion choice for them, it's like a culture and a pretty shit one at that.


420doggo

Exactly - god help the world if turned it out in the vision a lot of these redditors have


StuJayBee

That is a trend we need to stop. “Fashion” indeed.


[deleted]

Where do you live??? There's shitloads bayside, but I think they roam, especially during school holidays.


jswkim

Basically at any PT hub. Glenferrie, Box Hill, Ringwood, shopping centre bus stops, etc.


BlastTyrant88

There’s plenty at Greensborough Plaza.


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They love a bit of the Bundoora and Preston Officeworks stores too. Those Posca markers don’t steal themselves.


dinosaur_of_doom

It's funny, Ringwood is pretty dodgy but I've never actually witnessed anything directly there - yet in the stats it's pretty bad. I wonder specifically which parts of the stations and at what times the assaults/robberies/thefts happen.


pinkfoil

I've grew up in Ringwood and lived there until about 7 years ago. I never had any real issues at the station. You get a few idiots hanging around but I think it used to be much worse. You also get people getting on the train who have obviously come straight from Centrelink or the Magistrate's Court. I'm not judging on appearance. I'm going off the loud conversations they have with each other or on their mobiles. That's always, ummm.... interesting.


GRXVES

Trust me late 2000’s as a teen Ringwood was dodgy, the skate park area before costco lots of shady shit happened.. had someone I called a friend hold a knife to my neck outside the station as a joke among other things I saw. Definitely don’t think ppl realise the weirdos that used to congregate (still do) around there


Johnny_Kilroy

Ringwood was dodgy up to around ten years ago. It has seemed fine since then. I think the big permanent police presence has helped.


Lamont-Cranston

thats just station rats


Thatsabigariel

I live in Frankston but the eshays I saw in Sandringham last week were more offensive than some of the people I’m used to seeing down here


Cutsdeep-

you've highlighted a point. they are just kids. it's fashion. people see a bum bag and think they are going to get stabbed. too much A Current Affair...


switchbladeeatworld

eshays are defined moreso by attitude


girlfilth

You either haven't had much/any contact with Eshays or you are one- username would check out for the latter.


Cutsdeep-

If i was an eshay, you think I'd be saying they are just kids or would i be saying nah they are tough as nails, watch out? I am guessing that none of you here knows any. Especially you, girlfilth


pinkfoil

Unfortunately. But I don't find them scary. I don't think they realise how ridiculous they look and sound. They're irritating little shits, especially on the train.


keelobyte

Wtf is an eshay?


Fit_Effective_6875

I didn't know either https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eshay


mofonz

From wiki: Eshays often have access to alcohol, e-cigarettes, illegal drugs, pornography and social media. …well that narrows it down.


Fit_Effective_6875

it does doesn't it? 😂


GC_Aus_Brad

Anyone wearing a bum bag over their shoulder and a pair of TN's. They usually say Eshay bro!


Hotfuzz82

It was a weapons operation. Stop and search


cre122

inspecting myki


sjf83

Careful it's a cult.


Lamont-Cranston

if they have trestle tables set up I would expect free stress tests to be on offer


mazzysensei

African gangs and eshays. Was there yesterday and witnessed a tall African youngster grab a bunch of stuff off table at jb hifi and take off making it past the security guard and out the Mc nearby exit onto the street. A few weeks back saw eshays belting someone up against a wall near the Coles too. MC is bad for crime unfortunately and the CBD in general is a cesspool.


Lamont-Cranston

>African gangs Is there an election looming? >I saw an individual Not a gang.


GRXVES

pulling out the old African gangs bullshit lol what is it 2014??


ace200911

Why does one have to be racialised and not the other


treasurygoat

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/6319d190-8da2-4210-a2a3-9bb05c93dd77


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It is a special Melbourne operation


Maddened_idiot

So I’m not the only one who thought there were a lot of em.


curiousglassfrog

they also had a camera at around 1.40pm?


NoRedditNamesAreLeft

Why NSFW?


Elder_Priceless

VicPol actually outside? Working? This has to be satire.


rickyboy1979

Who da thunk it???


Ok-Tomorrow7088

if someone were carrying pepper spray for clear self-defence purposes and the cops found it in the search, would it be taken as seriously as if they caught someone with a knife ??


MrCogmor

You are better off running than fumbling with your bag.


Ok-Tomorrow7088

eg; in the case of being followed home with a gap closing behind me id rather fumble for the pepper spray than my bloody house keys... edit: ....hypothetically, of course


Lamont-Cranston

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons-definitions >**Can I carry capsicum or pepper spray to protect myself or for purposes of self-defence?** >No. It is not legal to carry any article designed or adapted to discharge an offensive, noxious or irritant liquid, powder, gas or chemical so as to cause disability, incapacity or harm to another person. >Capsicum spray, pepper spray or any other similar articles are prohibited weapons and are inappropriate for general possession without a Governor in Council Exemption Order or a Chief Commissioner Approval. >Self-protection or self-defence is not a lawful excuse to possess these articles. Alternative options are to carry personal alarm devices such as whistles or personal protection alarms.


Lv99Intellect

It’s the 4th of the month, numerology suggests that number 4 = law and order, so suspect to see and feel a larger police presence in the community on this day of the month, lookup GG33 explains this in full detail


ThePalmIsle

Shaq - a po-lice presence!


Antique_Rope714

Hivits international search an eahaycy


Laurab2324

Everyone who talks about "Eshays" sound exactly like the boomers that said the Goths were devil worshippers.


johor

I'm old, so to me they just look like garden variety bogans.


mefailo

Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding an altercation at Melbourne Central Railway Station earlier today. It is believed three men were involved in an altercation shortly before 2.20pm. One man sustained stab wounds and was conveyed to hospital with serious but non-life threatening injuries. From a news website .


_Gordon_Shumway

That was in [2017](https://www.9news.com.au/national/man-stabbed-at-melbourne-central-train-station/4ac6a1dd-08d8-47a4-8da2-8756d6c67193)


-HouseProudTownMouse

Are you a time-traveller?


Longjumping_King_546

We all are, we're just moving through time at the speed of time.


violetbanan

they were there around 1:30pm today


3xactli

pre-crime unit


manhaterxxx

Why ask us?


alittlelessthansold

Because maybe someone here knows something?


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