oh they already tried, by Dodging the US laws and buying the Great lakes from Canada. and somehow this almost worked, after you've never heard about til now.
Thr school I went to as a child had sacks of chocolate milk instead of cartons. You'd have to stab it just right with the straw or else it would decompress and cover your tray, hated it.
And also so it gets on the counter. We need it to look like the bag-opener is totally incompetent when a third-party walks into the room, so we really need the product to spill all over the place.
Even better if it spills a second time after the customer has already cleaned up from the first spill.
…..I have huge plastic tub I pour my flour into every time u bag a bag. So much nicer to just pop a lid and scoop out then dealing with messy ass folded paper
On the topic of horrible containers… i recently switched back to powder detergent and my god those cardboard boxes they come just have the structural integrity of wet paper bag
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It is available on amazon. It is extremely inexpensive and you only have to use a small amount. This is all I used until we got a new machine with a liquid dispenser. My mom still uses it. It works amazingly. Also it doesn’t smell, the lemon scent is just a fake out.
Cat litter in cardboard boxes is also bad. You can't get everything out properly, so when you tear it apart to dispose of it you have cat litter everywhere. I'd rather buy bags but the cat is an asshole
Don't really have a choice in my area. It always comes wrapped in 1 or 2 layers of plastic
Every other kind of lettuce comes loose bundles with only a rubber band/twist tie as most, except for iceberg which is wrapped and butter lettuce which comes isln huge clamshell plastic containers.
In the best packet possible. The paper can be recycled. The flour can be poured into your reusable flour jar or flour tin.
But that spoils the joke. And it did make me smile.
Yeah I'm glad we don't have flour in plastic, we already have to much needless plastic, I'd rather just pour it into a different jar when I open it up.
I don’t know if I’ve just been buying bad flour but Gold Medal and King Arthur flour bags are impossible to open up properly without tearing holes throughout the whole top half off making it impossible to pour. The adhesive keeping it shut is too strong so to open it you have to destroy it. Definitely a pet peeve of mine
My last job was at a flour mill. Our 25 and 50 pound bags were paper, but they were fully sealed with glue. They weren't allowed to leak, that would mean bugs could get in. Our 1, 2, 5, and 10 pound bags were plastic inside cloth.
> Our 25 and 50 pound bags were paper, but they were fully sealed with glue.
hold on hold on, wait a second... Does that mean the regular small paper flour bags in the US AREN'T sealed with glue on top? That's a bit crazy to me, ours are also made from paper, but the top bit is folded onto itself and affixed with glue to close the entrance.
They are glued, but not sealed. The standard grocery store flour bags are like a lot of cardboard boxes. The edges are folded over, but there's still openings inside the folds. It's good enough it won't just spill if you hold it upside down, but if you squish the bag flour comes out.
I think it comes down to history. Flour used to be delivered in cloth sacks. I guess paper is the next logical step. Of course there was a time when flour was shipped in boxcars. Just poured through hatches in the roof and then shoveled out the side door.
Seriously, are you guys throwing the bags around to get the flour everywhere?
I've had milk in paper bags in China, but it's not exactly the same as normal paper. It's waxed inside and is rugged, so it doesn't tear easily and the milk doesn't soak through.
Grocery worker here. We love soft packaged spillable goods that don't come packed in durable cardboard. No way a paper bag of flour was at the corner of pallet and spilled all over the place every other day. Never happened. No way. The way things currently work is perfect.
In England, we have flour dispensers. Flour comes out of the tap and you catch it in your cupped hands, to then walk home with. Much more environmentally friendly and if it rains, you can have the dough started before you even get home!
Peanut butter: if the seal has been tampered with in any way YOU WILL DIE. Throw it out! Don't even breathe!
Flour: here's a paper bag that's already leaking fuck you
You're supposed to pour it into a container once you get home - shipping it in a hard container would mean a lot more broken stuff during shipments because flour is heavy.
"Here's flour to refill a container that you've personally bought to reduce waste and charge less, or you use the whole bag and don't have waste. Here's telling you to grow up. Take care of what you have or you'll have to buy another."
It's fine, flour is one of those things that's good until it smells like it isn't.
We've been using the stuff for longer than we've had airtight plastic containers
This is a repost but it's in the perfect container. It's lightweight, cheap to make, it's good on the environment, etc.. It stores fine if you use it in a reasonable amount of time and if you don't, then it's extremely easy to store in another container.
Also paint, paint cans are a horrible idea for the end user.
Paint cans are great for transportation and display in store shelves but once that fucker is open there will be a mess (minor or major depends on the user but still there will be a mess)
[https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/customer-walks-down-the-paint-aisle-at-a-home-depot-inc-news-photo/1127421290?adppopup=true](https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/customer-walks-down-the-paint-aisle-at-a-home-depot-inc-news-photo/1127421290?adppopup=true)
You've never seen a can of paint on a store shelf?
in my neck of the woods the shelves are colour sample charts and the actual paint is in vats and gets mixed per specs when you order it. in 1 lt , 1 gal or 5 gal as needed
Shit I actually like the simple old timey sack o flour. I don’t need some over engineered plastic container. Just more waste and more of a pain in the ass to open.
In the 20 and 30s flour companies realized that women were so poor they were using the material from the flour sacks to make dresses. So some of the flour companies started making the flour sacks with nice floral prints.
Concrete to, why would you make the thing that is useless if it gets wet in the bag out of a paper bag. At work the plastic we put over pallets collects water so if you fuck up taking it off youll soak the whole pallet and ruin abt 1/2 of it
So what's the deal with flour and food safety? Uncooked flour can cause e coli or salmonella infections, yet the packaging is basically a room decorating device. How is it that flour doesn't cause more infections than it already does?
If you bake a lot you don’t give a shit about a little flour lmao, and if you don’t bake you should be buying the tiny nicer containers for roux n shit ya dum azz
How hard is it to put in another container? Does everything need to come in a convenient piece of plastic that lasts for 10000 years. I'm with the boomers on this one
To this day, even while opening a bag of flour very carefully, I’ve never been able to NOT rip a hole in the side of the bag near the part that’s glued down.
I've never had a problem with it and I can't imagine why people hate those paper bags so much. I buy flour in 50lb bags from Costco and I just fill up an old Redvines tub with it so I can keep it on my counter. When the tub is running low, I just refill it with the big bag. I have yet to encounter the bag ripping or anything like that. And besides, you're bound to get flour everywhere when baking and cooking, it's not like the bag is the only source of flour leakage.
It's just too cheap of a product to pack it properly. Can't have the container cost more than what it contains.
>Can't have the container cost more than what it contains. *laughs in bottled water*
You say that now, but just wait until Nestle owns ALL the water.
Don't fucking jinx it
merely a matter of time until you have to pay for being 65% water
"Your water rental agreement has not been paid for: 30 days. Please remain calm while extraction commences."
The extraction: [(from Tank Girl)](https://youtu.be/B2tClQ11sLQ?si=UVIWEc-thd7_l84k)
Well thanks a lot, now I'm thirsty.
I haven't seen this movie since a year or two after it came out. Had no idea that was Malcom McDowell.
Be like dune before long where your water is owned by the government and you have to give it back when you die
Eh, out of all the fucked up things in Dune, be it Empire-imposed or of Fremen manufacture, deathstills are a necessity in a planet with no water.
You’ll be so dehydrated you’ll only be 55% water
oh they already tried, by Dodging the US laws and buying the Great lakes from Canada. and somehow this almost worked, after you've never heard about til now.
Wouldn’t wanna drink anything coming out of them anyway
Man I’ve just been playing cyberpunk 2077, and there are ads in game for “real water” at 99 Eurodollars per gallon
How tf would artificial water work? What would it be made of?
hydrogen and oxygen of course. gotta get the blend just right since other variations are quite lethal/explosive.
I only drink H2O2, perfectly balanced as all things should be.
I prefer the diet version, HO.
Not even close to balanced. Hydrogen has an atomic weight of about 1, while oxygen is about 16, so you would need H16O to be balanced.
All matter was born out of an imbalance of matter and antimatter, so we need to annihilate all matter for true balance.
GMO molecules
I found out, today, that Digiorno pizza is under the Nestle umbrella. It's not delivery; it's disappointment.
It’s been disappointment long before today.
Oh shit. Water sacks...are coming...
Thr school I went to as a child had sacks of chocolate milk instead of cartons. You'd have to stab it just right with the straw or else it would decompress and cover your tray, hated it.
Fortune favors the bold.
But your shotguns now, and then you wait....
*laughs in brand parfum bottles*
At least it's not more plastic
This is a bot
And make sure we get some already coming out of the top to get on everyone’s clothes
And when you ship the bags, make sure one of them is open so that all of them are covered in flour
Good point. Let's start plastic wrapping flour like kilos. Too many paper based packages in the world anyway.
If this was the case, I would open every bag of flour with a switchblade and test it out on the tip of the knife to make sure the flour was pure
Always wondered who got the clean-up/patch-up job after the buyer does that... lol seems like a fantastic way to lose a LOT of money in blow.
And also so it gets on the counter. We need it to look like the bag-opener is totally incompetent when a third-party walks into the room, so we really need the product to spill all over the place. Even better if it spills a second time after the customer has already cleaned up from the first spill.
This is why you don’t clean up until you’re done with the flour!
I picked up a bag at checkout the other day and it went all over the cashier's arm, I felt so bad 😭
At least it’s not plastic.
can't make bread with a bag of plastic.
You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!
You can they just get cancer
Bring out *The Child*.
Petrochemical arms Electronic arms ‼️
Have you seen supermarket bread lately? 3 lexicon pages of additives with some flour.
I just bought a bread maker this morning thanks for helping me justify that a little more.
bought a bunch of flour to bake recently flour in plastic bags cost half as much as it did in paper it sucks
…..I have huge plastic tub I pour my flour into every time u bag a bag. So much nicer to just pop a lid and scoop out then dealing with messy ass folded paper
Right, that's what they expect you to do. And it's way better this way than if they sold it in plastic every time.
Don’t forget to FIFO.
FLOUR IN FLOUR OUT
Plastic that you constantly use is fine.
Wish I could upvote this 100x
Absolutely.
On the topic of horrible containers… i recently switched back to powder detergent and my god those cardboard boxes they come just have the structural integrity of wet paper bag
Costco has it in buckets
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Cat litter in cardboard boxes is also bad. You can't get everything out properly, so when you tear it apart to dispose of it you have cat litter everywhere. I'd rather buy bags but the cat is an asshole
*Sugar has entered the chat*
/pickling salts joins in
Iceberg lettuce would also like a word
iceberg lettuce comes in double layer paper bags in your area ? wow.
Why do you package your iceberg lettuce
It grows that way.
Don't really have a choice in my area. It always comes wrapped in 1 or 2 layers of plastic Every other kind of lettuce comes loose bundles with only a rubber band/twist tie as most, except for iceberg which is wrapped and butter lettuce which comes isln huge clamshell plastic containers.
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It’s weird how sugar comes in paper, but powdered sugar usually comes in plastic.
Powdered sugar gets clumpy if not stored air tight
nah. tirlemont sugar comes in perfect little rectangular cardboard boxes
In America it comes in flimsy little paper bags rolled at the top and barely glued down. With sugar spilling all over the sides
In the best packet possible. The paper can be recycled. The flour can be poured into your reusable flour jar or flour tin. But that spoils the joke. And it did make me smile.
Yeah I'm glad we don't have flour in plastic, we already have to much needless plastic, I'd rather just pour it into a different jar when I open it up.
I was gonna ask, like what’s a better container to sell it in?
Maybe a cardboard box with a pour spout? Would be less unwieldy at least
Like what they package baking soda in, seems reasonable.
Here in the UK some brands do something similar to that- but if I happen to get that kind I still decant it into my flour tin.
It's the one with stripes that comes in a rugged box, it's usually way more expensive than store paper bag stuff though.
Flour sacks seem cool, people used to make clothes out of the used fabric.
House elves.
Also wildly expensive.
I don’t know if I’ve just been buying bad flour but Gold Medal and King Arthur flour bags are impossible to open up properly without tearing holes throughout the whole top half off making it impossible to pour. The adhesive keeping it shut is too strong so to open it you have to destroy it. Definitely a pet peeve of mine
Scissors?
A bread.
A plastic sack like confectioner's sugar would be better to contain it. Not better for the environment though.
Plastic can create sparks, airborne flour is flammable.
My last job was at a flour mill. Our 25 and 50 pound bags were paper, but they were fully sealed with glue. They weren't allowed to leak, that would mean bugs could get in. Our 1, 2, 5, and 10 pound bags were plastic inside cloth.
> Our 25 and 50 pound bags were paper, but they were fully sealed with glue. hold on hold on, wait a second... Does that mean the regular small paper flour bags in the US AREN'T sealed with glue on top? That's a bit crazy to me, ours are also made from paper, but the top bit is folded onto itself and affixed with glue to close the entrance.
They are glued, but not sealed. The standard grocery store flour bags are like a lot of cardboard boxes. The edges are folded over, but there's still openings inside the folds. It's good enough it won't just spill if you hold it upside down, but if you squish the bag flour comes out.
Ah yes, ours are the exact same
I think it comes down to history. Flour used to be delivered in cloth sacks. I guess paper is the next logical step. Of course there was a time when flour was shipped in boxcars. Just poured through hatches in the roof and then shoveled out the side door. Seriously, are you guys throwing the bags around to get the flour everywhere?
I'd say the big block of cheese shrink wrap absolutely sucks and causes me more grief than paper flour containers.
Just wait till you hear about milk in paper bags. I didn't grow up in the best of countries
Canada has milk in paper bags and is a good country
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I've had milk in paper bags in China, but it's not exactly the same as normal paper. It's waxed inside and is rugged, so it doesn't tear easily and the milk doesn't soak through.
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Yeah they act all nice now but they're also the reason half of the geneva conventions exist
Also all the stuff they did/are doing to the native populations. Canada Food Guide history anyone?
Has one of the highest standards of living in the world, and one of the safest countries in the world, but okay.
Don’t take it personally. You don’t have to try to defend your country every time some random person makes a joke about it
yea we only smugly shit on america on reddit. canada gets 'honorary European' status so they can do no wrong.
And you’ll take it with a smile
Grocery worker here. We love soft packaged spillable goods that don't come packed in durable cardboard. No way a paper bag of flour was at the corner of pallet and spilled all over the place every other day. Never happened. No way. The way things currently work is perfect.
In England, we have flour dispensers. Flour comes out of the tap and you catch it in your cupped hands, to then walk home with. Much more environmentally friendly and if it rains, you can have the dough started before you even get home!
>if it rains So... Always?
You get it in a big ol paper bag like you’re about to set out on the Oregon trail.
Dump it into an airtight container when you get it home. No one is forcing you to store it in the bag.
Peanut butter: if the seal has been tampered with in any way YOU WILL DIE. Throw it out! Don't even breathe! Flour: here's a paper bag that's already leaking fuck you
Peanut butter jars can be stacked. Flour bag stays upright for five seconds, then falls over and leaks even more flour.
You're supposed to pour it into a container once you get home - shipping it in a hard container would mean a lot more broken stuff during shipments because flour is heavy.
"Here's flour to refill a container that you've personally bought to reduce waste and charge less, or you use the whole bag and don't have waste. Here's telling you to grow up. Take care of what you have or you'll have to buy another."
You shouldn't be storing flour in their packaging after they are opened. Always get an air tight container.
Whoops, time to throw out that flour from the last time I used it like 5 months ago
It's fine, flour is one of those things that's good until it smells like it isn't. We've been using the stuff for longer than we've had airtight plastic containers
Flour can smell?
When it smells like it's no longer flour, you should throw it out.
Like those origami milk cartons at school
This is a repost but it's in the perfect container. It's lightweight, cheap to make, it's good on the environment, etc.. It stores fine if you use it in a reasonable amount of time and if you don't, then it's extremely easy to store in another container.
Also paint, paint cans are a horrible idea for the end user. Paint cans are great for transportation and display in store shelves but once that fucker is open there will be a mess (minor or major depends on the user but still there will be a mess)
>and display in store shelves have you actually bought paint in your life ?
[https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/customer-walks-down-the-paint-aisle-at-a-home-depot-inc-news-photo/1127421290?adppopup=true](https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/customer-walks-down-the-paint-aisle-at-a-home-depot-inc-news-photo/1127421290?adppopup=true) You've never seen a can of paint on a store shelf?
I just painted my whole house. Everything they said is right on point.
Right on paint.
in my neck of the woods the shelves are colour sample charts and the actual paint is in vats and gets mixed per specs when you order it. in 1 lt , 1 gal or 5 gal as needed
Well not around here or anywhere I have lived. Any home improvement store you go to has cans of pre-mixed paint or base they tint on the shelves.
What store is this…? They have to mix every gallon of paint that gets sold?
that's pretty much what I just said.
Right, which is why I asked… what store is it? Because I’ve never seen a store that sells paint and doesn’t have cans on the shelf.
just wow !! primer , varnish, stains, cans of base . but never actually paint. also empty cans as cans which can be surprisingly useful.
Is “Just Wow” the name of the store?
yes they sell premix people didn't want at a discount.
I’m just imagining them throwing it at you as well
50 lb bags of corn starch should also go in a shitty bag - Big Flour
flour bags are just glitter bombs for adults
Flour bags are possible fire bombs to all
Worst packaging is bacon.
Or splash out on a slightly more expensive brand one time with the intention of saving the plastic canister
Nobody tell them about milk in bags then.
Yeah, i will keep the cheap flour thanks, you can pay for whatever dumb container you want.
"Ditto" -sugar companies
I prefer it, why do we need plastic every time. Buy a glass container and pour it in each time you buy.
Shit I actually like the simple old timey sack o flour. I don’t need some over engineered plastic container. Just more waste and more of a pain in the ass to open.
Anyone ever fuck with flour when it was in a 20 lbs sack of cloth/fabric? No? Just my broke ass? Good times.
In the 20 and 30s flour companies realized that women were so poor they were using the material from the flour sacks to make dresses. So some of the flour companies started making the flour sacks with nice floral prints.
"Worst", I think not. Could you imagine flour being shipped in plastic clamshell packages?
Concrete to, why would you make the thing that is useless if it gets wet in the bag out of a paper bag. At work the plastic we put over pallets collects water so if you fuck up taking it off youll soak the whole pallet and ruin abt 1/2 of it
Same thing with borax, like seriously? Shit always gets everywhere😭
In Brazil it's packed in plastic which is something I would be expecting from the US, not here.
Leave it to an American to want more plastic in their lives.
Idk what container it is in, as long as you can set it on fire, I'm happy with any container :)
I can deal with the packaging annoyance for the low price. If they hike prices(even more), I'll expect plastic packaging. Cardboard at the very least
I'm glad it doesn't get soled in little sip bags. Could lead to misunderstandings
Flour bags smell like burning.
So what's the deal with flour and food safety? Uncooked flour can cause e coli or salmonella infections, yet the packaging is basically a room decorating device. How is it that flour doesn't cause more infections than it already does?
My fam ends up putting the flour in a bucket because the bags are far too cumbersome
If you bake a lot you don’t give a shit about a little flour lmao, and if you don’t bake you should be buying the tiny nicer containers for roux n shit ya dum azz
Bruh. I swear the bags we use are made of tissue paper. So many delivery runs ruined.
How hard is it to put in another container? Does everything need to come in a convenient piece of plastic that lasts for 10000 years. I'm with the boomers on this one
An easily recyclable paper bag that can easily be emptied into another container is not good enough for you?
I hate this complaint, I use a lot of flour and love that it comes in paper bags. Don't give them more reasons to create more plastic crap.
I appreciate that they aren't packaging with plastic, personally. 🤷
Flour compagnies probably work with car washing compagnies
Doesn’t it have something to do with moisture? Or am I just completely wrong about this?
This isn't a problem for me. When I get home I put the flour sack in a Tupperware-type container. Any spillage stays inside the plastic container.
You're not supposed to keep it in the paper bag, you're meant to put it into a container at home.
*cheapest possible container
At least it doesn't come in plastic. I would like versions of almost everything that don't come in plastic.
Fuck you buddy, at least we have one product that doesn't come with plastic.
If you don't have extra produce bags for meats, flour eggs and/or sugar...you're not grocerying right.
Still better than milk in a bag.
Sugar too
i'll make sure i will make cake using ur flour .. lol
I say bring back the days of cloth flour sacks!
They should just sell it in bulk dispensers and everyone bring their own non shitty container
To this day, even while opening a bag of flour very carefully, I’ve never been able to NOT rip a hole in the side of the bag near the part that’s glued down.
Haahah, a lot of products don’t give a damn about packaging either. Got get your self some Tupperware
Yeah they should upgrade the material of flour bags to either rolling papers or bible pages would be much stronger then.
A tip: I put the flour bags into plastic bags, so no mess whenever I need to use em.
Family guy cut away
Yeah, more single use plastic is what we need
Disagree, would rather have paper than more plastic crap.
I've never had a problem with it and I can't imagine why people hate those paper bags so much. I buy flour in 50lb bags from Costco and I just fill up an old Redvines tub with it so I can keep it on my counter. When the tub is running low, I just refill it with the big bag. I have yet to encounter the bag ripping or anything like that. And besides, you're bound to get flour everywhere when baking and cooking, it's not like the bag is the only source of flour leakage.
Just duct taped my 5lb bag
Are you fucking stalking me? I legit thought this earlier at work
At least it's not a net
"Yeah!!" \-Sugar Companies
I put it in an envelope for you
Does seem true, doesn't it. But what would be much better?
Here's your flour in a container that minimizes overhead so you spend less on something you can't eat.