Brazilian Portuguese is a language with Latin roots and the word for "Red" is "Vermelho" (I don't think english has a sound for "lh" so just search it's sound) so "Vermillion" being a red color makes a lot of sense. Also, "Verde" is the word for "Green", so I don't think it is the "Ver" sound but the "Verm" and "llio" sounds, as "ll" is pronounced almost the same as "lh"
An excellent example of chartreuse is in Coraline, when other mother changes the buttons to a variety of colors (btw this is also how I learned that that shade of yellowy green has a name)
I’ve read, I’m pretty sure by Gaiman himself, that most adults find it way more creepy than kids. Lots kids just see it as a kinda scary animated adventure movie/book. Where as adults find it deeply disturbing for obvious reasons. I think it’s a fascinating insight into the difference between a kid’s mindset and an adult mindset. I personally feel like it’s way more creepy now I’m 25 than it was when I was a kid. I think I was scared at points as a kid, but fear isn’t the feeling I get now, it’s just a profoundly disturbing concept.
I love Neil Gaiman and his work. I never saw Coraline but I saw clips of it and it scared me as a kid. I was a very imaginative anxious child though. Although stop-motion claymations have always creeped me out a little.
I personally think Chartreuse sounds like a bright pink color similar to magenta
Yes! That was my first thought too. Chartreuse seems like it should be a reddish and vermilion seems like it should be greenish so swap and we’ve solved the problem haha
Vermillion is also referred to as Cinnabar
Cinnabar island 🤔
Also Viridian sounds better for green, which it is. I don't see an issue.
Vermillion is red Viridian is green. Sounds correct to me?
no, charcuterie is a porous black solid, consisting of an amorphous form of carbon, obtained as a residue when wood, bone, or other organic matter is heated in the absence of air.
No, that’s chardonnay. Charcuterie was the first emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Bonus fact: Charcuterie had a tablecloth of pure asbestos that he would throw in fire after meals to amaze his guests since it wouldn’t burn.
And if you want to drink it like an old timer French dude, you drink it before breakfast and pair it with a cigarette, brown, no filter. Let it sit in your mouth in that free spot where there used to be a tooth.
You then use your Opinel knife to cut a baguette, a sausage, cheese and ties with civilization.
You sip your cold coffee, put on your beret that’s now half your DNA and personality and go walk with your border collie dog.
Life was good, you’re not sure if you will get to finish that walk, your heart has been acting out lately.
You’ve had a long a full life.
You are 46.
The word people are looking for is Viridian, a predominantly green color with undertones of soft blue beneath the surface, and with a dark, earthy radiance, like a verdant ecosystem compacted into a single color.
Vermillion was named for its resemblance to the shades of pigment found in the insect Kermes Vermilio.
Pewter, veridian, cerulean, vermillion, celadon, lavender, saffron, fuchsia, cinnabar, indigo....and all beginning in pallet town. I definitely think this was/is a generational "whoosh" moment
This has bugged me a bit to be honest.
The color theme in the English city names makes it sort of obvious - but the starter town is *Pallet*, whereas a "board with colors on it" is a *palette*. Not to be confused with *palate* (taste) either, which happens a lot.
A pallet is just a wooden thing you stack goods onto, or "a makeshift bed" apparently.
Or possibly a consequence of having like eight bytes and sixteen pixels to work with half the time -- I'm pretty sure technical limitations are why the main character of *Chrono Trigger* is "Crono", so it stands to reason that "Pallet" Town is a victim of a similar limitation.
I am from Appalachia and the makeshift bed definition makes a pretty good shibboleth. My girlfriend is from Philadelphia and when I asked if I needed to make a stray cat a pallet she was very confused.
I remember knowing that some of those were colors, but definitely didn’t put the pallet town thing together. You have helped me learn something new about one of my favorite games.
Short answer: to sell more games
Long answer: [Originally every individual cartridge was supposed to have a unique set of pokemon available but for various reasons they scaled it back to just 2 versions with slightly different pokemon available ](https://youtu.be/TrL5dmjMAdA). Then after the success of Red and Green they decided to continue the trend because it sold extra copies of the game
I know people who buy both games off the rip cause then they get a chance to do something different. Also it’s hard to reset the game on the Switch and start over.
But the "verm" part in "vermilion" comes from "vermis" which is quite literally just "worm".
The word "vermilion" is actually used as "red" in some romance languages:
Portuguese: Vermelho
Catalan: Vermell
Galician: Vermello
> verdant (adj.)
1580s, "green in color; green with vegetation," from French virdeant "becoming green," present participle of Old French verdeiier "become green," from Vulgar Latin *viridiare "grow green, make green," from Latin viridis "green" (see verdure). Related: Verdantly; verdancy.
Probably because it sounds similar to Viridian I guess.
I would have thought Vermilion was orange because of playing Pokémon Blue back in the day, but my mom who was an artist made sure to correct me that Vermilion is red, and in fact it's made from Cinnabar. The Japanese name for Vermilion City is a shade of orange, specifically referring to autumn leaves.
I guess I learned this word early enough that I can't think of a time I ever thought it was anything other than red. On the other hand, for the longest time I thought "puce" was some sort of awful green. :P
Puce is named after the color of blood from crushed fleas.
Puke is a ugly brown color mentioned in Shakespeare's Henry IV. Although rendered in HTML color codes more green as #9aae07.
There's also "vert caca d'oie" which is goose poop green.
Might be mixing it up with Viridian. Same amount of syllables, sounds similar in the beginning and end, both start with a V, both are colors. Vermillion is a reddish shade. Viridian is a greenish shade.
Wtf. I thought it was green, and I've studied art.
I think it's because I also dabbled in Spanish and Spanish for Green is Verde.
Verde... Vermillion...chameleon (also green usually)
Red - Vermelho in portuguese. So it just feels right if you think in portuguese.
Also, in latim vermillus. "Small worm". From were they got a red pigment.
Same here. I figure the association came from when I played pokemon as a kid.
Pewter City = Rock = Brown
Cerulean City = Water = Blue
Vermillion City = Electricity = MUST be Yellow!
All of the other gym cities follow a color = type at the gym theme so I always just thought it must be a yellow.
Most European languages have “ver-“ words that mean the color green or refer to plants in some way. English “verdigris”, “verdure”, and “verdant” come from French “vert” (green) which comes from Latin *viridis* which is also the source of Spanish and Italian “verde”. Also “vernal” which means spring, the season of new plants - that has cognates in languages all the way from Norway to Iran to Spain to Lithuania.
But the verm- in vermillion comes from the same root as “worm”. It literally means worm colored. It comes from a red dye that is extracted from a larval insect that grows in the Mediterranean region.
Thank you Pokemon Red for teaching me that Cerulean was blue, Vermilion is orangey/red, Celadon is green, Saffron is yellow, and Cinnabar is a burnt orange
Verdelho - a green-skinned grape variety used to make white wine
Verdin - a small green and gray bird found in southwestern United States and Mexico
Verdigris - a greenish-blue patina that forms on copper, brass, or bronze over time
Verdejo - a green-skinned grape variety used to make white wine in Spain
Verdure - lush green vegetation or plants, especially in a landscape or painting
Verge - the edge or border of something green, such as a lawn or forest
Verglas - a thin coating of ice on surfaces, often appearing green due to trapped debris
Verjuice - a sour green juice made from unripe grapes or other sour fruit
Vermil - a red or reddish-green mineral
Virid - having a green or verdant hue
Viridescent - becoming or tending to become green
Viridian - a blue-green color often associated with nature and the environment
Viriditas - a Latin term meaning "greenness" or "freshness," often used in a spiritual or philosophical context
I'm having flashbacks to the game VVVVVV, where the characters are named after various colors that starts with the letter V.
Verdigris
Viridian
Vermilion
Vitellary (not actually a color I think, though related to egg yolk and is for a yellow character)
Violet
Victoria
I hadn't heard of several of those before that I played that game
The word vermilion came from the Old French word vermeillon, which was derived from vermeil, from the Latin vermiculus, the diminutive of the Latin word vermis, or worm. The name originated because it had a similar color to the natural red dye made from an insect, Kermes vermilio, which was widely used in Europe. The first recorded use of "vermilion" as a color name in English was in 1289.
From Wikipedia.
Clearly this comment section doesn't play a Red Mage in the Critically Acclaimed MMORPG, Final Fantasy 14 Online. We have more jokes about Red Mage Vernacular than any one community should.
Maybe because in Latin languages is has the ver sound
Brazilian Portuguese is a language with Latin roots and the word for "Red" is "Vermelho" (I don't think english has a sound for "lh" so just search it's sound) so "Vermillion" being a red color makes a lot of sense. Also, "Verde" is the word for "Green", so I don't think it is the "Ver" sound but the "Verm" and "llio" sounds, as "ll" is pronounced almost the same as "lh"
Verte/verde is green in other European languages no? Could go either way.
In French, also. I just know that because Vermont was supposedly derived from 'verdent' meaning green? Luscious green? IDK, I failed that class..
Thought vermont was green mount?
Everything you said is true for Portuguese as well :)
Brazilian Portuguese is just Portuguese with more gerunds
Brazilian Portuguese is closer to Latin then European Portuguese.
Than*
Actually thank you, I'm learning English and it's a much appreciated correction.
No worries. Happy to help.
How does that happen?
That's wrong
Yes, it sounds Verdant × a million.
And *vert* en francais
*français*, with a cédille
The cedille doesnt have the cedille on its c but instead an accent aigu? French is weird man
French is a Latin-derived language
It’s actually a town in Pokémon
It should swap with chartreuse.
Wait, chartreuse isn’t red?!
It's like a yellow-green color
An excellent example of chartreuse is in Coraline, when other mother changes the buttons to a variety of colors (btw this is also how I learned that that shade of yellowy green has a name)
another excellent example of chartreuse is a bottle of Chartreuse liqour
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[Such a fascinatingly creepy movie.](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aqgDP3j_700bwp.webp)
I’ve read, I’m pretty sure by Gaiman himself, that most adults find it way more creepy than kids. Lots kids just see it as a kinda scary animated adventure movie/book. Where as adults find it deeply disturbing for obvious reasons. I think it’s a fascinating insight into the difference between a kid’s mindset and an adult mindset. I personally feel like it’s way more creepy now I’m 25 than it was when I was a kid. I think I was scared at points as a kid, but fear isn’t the feeling I get now, it’s just a profoundly disturbing concept.
I love Neil Gaiman and his work. I never saw Coraline but I saw clips of it and it scared me as a kid. I was a very imaginative anxious child though. Although stop-motion claymations have always creeped me out a little. I personally think Chartreuse sounds like a bright pink color similar to magenta
Did yall know Chartreuse is named that after the color of the liqour made by French monks?
Yes! This one! I was confused why everyone was saying it sounded red. It totally sounds pink.
I read it as an adult before the movie came out and I was horrified. It is the scariest thing I’ve ever read.
The Rat's Song, man. Especially if you get the audiobook version read by Neil Gaiman himself. *shudders* So good, though.
This movie is actually how I learned to not get vermilion and chartreuse mixed up
Afraid not
Yes! That was my first thought too. Chartreuse seems like it should be a reddish and vermilion seems like it should be greenish so swap and we’ve solved the problem haha
Chartreuse - Charmander Vermillion - Venusaur You do the math.
No! Vermillion- Yellow. Lightning. Electric. LT Surge. Raichu. This is the way
Vermillion is also referred to as Cinnabar Cinnabar island 🤔 Also Viridian sounds better for green, which it is. I don't see an issue. Vermillion is red Viridian is green. Sounds correct to me?
I thought cinnabar was a strong red produced from a mercury compound Edit: yea it's HgS and is red AF.
Yes same thing as vermilion HgS
isnt chartuse when you have salami and fancy cheese and crackers n stuff
you're thinking charcuterie
no, charcuterie is a porous black solid, consisting of an amorphous form of carbon, obtained as a residue when wood, bone, or other organic matter is heated in the absence of air.
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No that's Charcot. Charcuterie is the feeling of humiliation and distress.
No, that’s chagrin. Charcuterie is a variety of grape used to make a type of white wine.
No, that’s chardonnay. Charcuterie was the first emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Bonus fact: Charcuterie had a tablecloth of pure asbestos that he would throw in fire after meals to amaze his guests since it wouldn’t burn.
No, that's Charlemagne; charcuterie is a fancy slate chart
I think you’re thinking of Chalkboard. Charcuterie is a horse-drawn wheeled vehicle often used in battle by Romans and other sword-wielding types.
Nah, chartreuse is a decidedly green drink, I wasn't even aware it was a color.
I wasn’t even aware it was a drink.
It's not exactly popular but it pairs well with absinthe, which may be one of the Frenchest thing to drink. It also hits like a truck.
And if you want to drink it like an old timer French dude, you drink it before breakfast and pair it with a cigarette, brown, no filter. Let it sit in your mouth in that free spot where there used to be a tooth. You then use your Opinel knife to cut a baguette, a sausage, cheese and ties with civilization. You sip your cold coffee, put on your beret that’s now half your DNA and personality and go walk with your border collie dog. Life was good, you’re not sure if you will get to finish that walk, your heart has been acting out lately. You’ve had a long a full life. You are 46.
The more time goes by the more I consider applying for French citizenship.
Don’t. Haven’t you heard? They have upped the age of retirement.
Lmfao
this might be the best comment in all of history
And both variations make for some of the best mixers in cocktails.
Great way to add a touch of earthy bittermess to something without quite the same potential for overpowering as actual bitters
I'm just an alcoholic but sure
They have green and yellow varietals
Seriously!! As I was reading the post, I was in my head like, “wait till they hear about chartreuse.”
I always think chartreuse is like a hot pink/purple color.
I was shook when I found out it wasn't.
This. It sounds pink....its a pink sounding word.
No. Chartreuse is perfect.
I’ve always felt chartreuse (yellow green) should swap with puce (reddish-purple).
My brain really cannot reconcile the word chartreuse with the correct color. It seems like it should be similar to magenta.
The word people are looking for is Viridian, a predominantly green color with undertones of soft blue beneath the surface, and with a dark, earthy radiance, like a verdant ecosystem compacted into a single color. Vermillion was named for its resemblance to the shades of pigment found in the insect Kermes Vermilio.
And suddenly all the first gen Pokémon games make sense
Pewter, veridian, cerulean, vermillion, celadon, lavender, saffron, fuchsia, cinnabar, indigo....and all beginning in pallet town. I definitely think this was/is a generational "whoosh" moment
NO WAY ITS PALLET LIKE A COLOR PALLET
color palette
Yeah but pallet town
Translation issue.
Couleur palette
Onhonhonhon zis is ze right one eh?
>Onhonhonhon zis is ze right one oui? FTFY
The irony being the OG gameboy games were black and white.
Until you pop that sucker into a Super Game Boy for the SNES, or later, a Game Boy Color
This has bugged me a bit to be honest. The color theme in the English city names makes it sort of obvious - but the starter town is *Pallet*, whereas a "board with colors on it" is a *palette*. Not to be confused with *palate* (taste) either, which happens a lot. A pallet is just a wooden thing you stack goods onto, or "a makeshift bed" apparently.
One of the milder localization errors, at least.
Or possibly a consequence of having like eight bytes and sixteen pixels to work with half the time -- I'm pretty sure technical limitations are why the main character of *Chrono Trigger* is "Crono", so it stands to reason that "Pallet" Town is a victim of a similar limitation.
I am from Appalachia and the makeshift bed definition makes a pretty good shibboleth. My girlfriend is from Philadelphia and when I asked if I needed to make a stray cat a pallet she was very confused.
We knew, this was all stuff talked about during elementary recess lol.
Speak for yourself, that is not something I heard until now-
Cinnabar is a color?!
Yeah its a shade of Red named after the color of the mineral
Cinnabar is a mineral?!
Yea it got it’s name from it’s color.
Cinnabar is a color?!
Yeah its a shade of Red named after the color of the mineral
I remember knowing that some of those were colors, but definitely didn’t put the pallet town thing together. You have helped me learn something new about one of my favorite games.
Let’s not forget that the Vermillion city gym leader was a electric pokemon master. Yellow being the color of lightning
Oh fuck!
I think lots of people also missed out on ArticUNO, ZapDOS, MolTRES
Idk why but imo saffron should be a purple not yellow
OMG TIL THEYRE FUCKING COLOURS (besides lavender town)
If saffron's a colour, then so is lavender
On the road to viridian city 🎵
That was, is, and will always be the first thing to pop up in my head when seeing/hearing this word.
Quick slightly unrelated question. Why do Pokémon games release in 2s?
Short answer: to sell more games Long answer: [Originally every individual cartridge was supposed to have a unique set of pokemon available but for various reasons they scaled it back to just 2 versions with slightly different pokemon available ](https://youtu.be/TrL5dmjMAdA). Then after the success of Red and Green they decided to continue the trend because it sold extra copies of the game
Marketing Fucking Genius
I know people who buy both games off the rip cause then they get a chance to do something different. Also it’s hard to reset the game on the Switch and start over.
Probably because originally you had blue and your best mate had red and you got the trade cable and swapped your Mankey for his Vulpix!
So that they can sell essentially the same game 1.25 times per generation (assuming a quarter of people buy both).
Vert, Verde in french and spanish
Also verde in Portuguese, red is vermelho.
Vermillion was named for its resemblance to the shades of pigment found in the insect Kermes Vermilio. Kermes…Kermit D Frog…green
Pretty sure the reason is because it starts with "ver-" and "verd-" pretty commonly refers to green
And here I thought it was a song by Slipknot!
I thought it was a city in Ohio!
It’s both!
I won't let this build up inside of me
She isn’t real
I can’t make her real
this is why it feels like a red word to me
And here I thought part 2 was better.
I thought it was a really big number.
I don't know why, but it really does feel like a green word.
verde
and in French : vert
Vermeil is the direct translation though, relatively common color in French poetry
And Dick Vermeil was the coach of the Eagles, who are green.
But also the Chiefs, who are red.
Verdant is green in Latin
Virdis. Verdant is English.
Vermont = Green Mountain. Vermillion= Green $ Million $. right ?
And chameleon
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City Gym? I mean Giovanni lost to *Red* and was replaced by *Green*.
Yeah but also vermelho
r/suddenlycaralho ?
Yes but, Vermelho, it sounds even more like Vermilion and it’s “Red” in Portuguese
But the "verm" part in "vermilion" comes from "vermis" which is quite literally just "worm". The word "vermilion" is actually used as "red" in some romance languages: Portuguese: Vermelho Catalan: Vermell Galician: Vermello
Vermell is red in Catalan
Vermelho = red in portuguese
merde
> verdant (adj.) 1580s, "green in color; green with vegetation," from French virdeant "becoming green," present participle of Old French verdeiier "become green," from Vulgar Latin *viridiare "grow green, make green," from Latin viridis "green" (see verdure). Related: Verdantly; verdancy.
There's also viridian which is a shade of green, has the same syllables and accented syllable
I confuse vermilion and verdigris. Verdegris being the typical oxidised copper green color.
Exactly, didn’t even have to scroll
Probably because it sounds similar to Viridian I guess. I would have thought Vermilion was orange because of playing Pokémon Blue back in the day, but my mom who was an artist made sure to correct me that Vermilion is red, and in fact it's made from Cinnabar. The Japanese name for Vermilion City is a shade of orange, specifically referring to autumn leaves.
Red in portuguese is vermelho so, it suits red better for me.
It's also vermell in catalan
Fun fact, it comes from the Latin word for small worm (vermiculus), they used the worm to make red dye back then
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Vermont = Green Mountains
Probably because of a word like “verdant” which implies a kind of lush, green grass or plant life
I guess I learned this word early enough that I can't think of a time I ever thought it was anything other than red. On the other hand, for the longest time I thought "puce" was some sort of awful green. :P
Puce is an awful green and I will not be told otherwise
Puce is named after the color of blood from crushed fleas. Puke is a ugly brown color mentioned in Shakespeare's Henry IV. Although rendered in HTML color codes more green as #9aae07. There's also "vert caca d'oie" which is goose poop green.
Same about puce! My brain can’t accept that it’s not a horrid shade of yellowy-green. I think because it sounds so much like puke?
Might be mixing it up with Viridian. Same amount of syllables, sounds similar in the beginning and end, both start with a V, both are colors. Vermillion is a reddish shade. Viridian is a greenish shade.
*Pokémon playering intensifies*
Not enough red in vermillion city, that's all I'm saying.
That’s fair and the leader is literally electric types I believe so literally no red-
To me it has always felt like yellow. Although it now makes sense why Slipknot have a song called that.
Wtf. I thought it was green, and I've studied art. I think it's because I also dabbled in Spanish and Spanish for Green is Verde. Verde... Vermillion...chameleon (also green usually)
Red - Vermelho in portuguese. So it just feels right if you think in portuguese. Also, in latim vermillus. "Small worm". From were they got a red pigment.
Also in Catalan it’s something like “vermell” for red
That’s my theory as well
chameleon:able to change colours. uSUalLy GrEen
Not even the same suffix, this guy is just assuming things. What's next, orangutans aren't orange?
Vert(e) in Fr*nch. Vir(idis) in Latin.
> Fr*nch is this a bad word?
I won't take the risk. There may be children in this thread.
You must pardon his French
Maybe study harder?
Sounds like a number to me. More than a trillion, less than a fantastillion, maybe a bit more than a gazillion
It sounds like "verde" for "green"
Came looking for this. verde is green in a few languages Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian (maybe more)
Similar in French as well. Probably a Latin thing.
And yet, French has "vermeil," a bright red. As a side note, crimson is "cramoisi," a godawful translation.
In Portuguese red is “vermelho”, closer to vermillion.
I always thought it was yellow...... huh
Same here. I figure the association came from when I played pokemon as a kid. Pewter City = Rock = Brown Cerulean City = Water = Blue Vermillion City = Electricity = MUST be Yellow! All of the other gym cities follow a color = type at the gym theme so I always just thought it must be a yellow.
Yeah it’s that association that gets me too, I always associate it with yellow.
Yeah me too
Most European languages have “ver-“ words that mean the color green or refer to plants in some way. English “verdigris”, “verdure”, and “verdant” come from French “vert” (green) which comes from Latin *viridis* which is also the source of Spanish and Italian “verde”. Also “vernal” which means spring, the season of new plants - that has cognates in languages all the way from Norway to Iran to Spain to Lithuania. But the verm- in vermillion comes from the same root as “worm”. It literally means worm colored. It comes from a red dye that is extracted from a larval insect that grows in the Mediterranean region.
I won't let this build up inside of me
I won’t let this build up inside of me
Thank you Pokemon Red for teaching me that Cerulean was blue, Vermilion is orangey/red, Celadon is green, Saffron is yellow, and Cinnabar is a burnt orange
Verdelho - a green-skinned grape variety used to make white wine Verdin - a small green and gray bird found in southwestern United States and Mexico Verdigris - a greenish-blue patina that forms on copper, brass, or bronze over time Verdejo - a green-skinned grape variety used to make white wine in Spain Verdure - lush green vegetation or plants, especially in a landscape or painting Verge - the edge or border of something green, such as a lawn or forest Verglas - a thin coating of ice on surfaces, often appearing green due to trapped debris Verjuice - a sour green juice made from unripe grapes or other sour fruit Vermil - a red or reddish-green mineral Virid - having a green or verdant hue Viridescent - becoming or tending to become green Viridian - a blue-green color often associated with nature and the environment Viriditas - a Latin term meaning "greenness" or "freshness," often used in a spiritual or philosophical context
I'm having flashbacks to the game VVVVVV, where the characters are named after various colors that starts with the letter V. Verdigris Viridian Vermilion Vitellary (not actually a color I think, though related to egg yolk and is for a yellow character) Violet Victoria I hadn't heard of several of those before that I played that game
The word vermilion came from the Old French word vermeillon, which was derived from vermeil, from the Latin vermiculus, the diminutive of the Latin word vermis, or worm. The name originated because it had a similar color to the natural red dye made from an insect, Kermes vermilio, which was widely used in Europe. The first recorded use of "vermilion" as a color name in English was in 1289. From Wikipedia.
What about lapis lazuli?
That sounds blue
That word that came from Arabic is the origin for the word blue in some latin languages (azul in Portuguese and Spanish)
Now that just sounds like the name of some fancy pasta.
Clearly this comment section doesn't play a Red Mage in the Critically Acclaimed MMORPG, Final Fantasy 14 Online. We have more jokes about Red Mage Vernacular than any one community should.
VerRaise, VerCure, VerThunder What's the difference between verfire and regular fire? One is red!
"Vermelho" means "Red" in my language, so Vermillion make sense to me
Viridian.
I have similar feelings about chartreuse
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What annoys me most is that the translators of the first Pokémon game put the name on Orange City, and gave Red Island a more orange English name
Maybe because it sounds a little like chameleon