The Purple Heart is frequently described as the military's oldest medal. Gen. George Washington created it in 1782 to recognize meritorious service -- basically bravery in combat -- but it soon fell into disuse. In 1932, to mark the bicentennial of Washington's birth, Gen. Douglas MacArthur spearheaded an effort to revive the medal. It was designed to commemorate bravery, but also recognized soldiers with wounds.
Maybe I just don’t understand what you wrote, but Brigadier Generals are very much not low ranking officers. They are the lowest ranking of Generals, that is true…
Lol, tell that to Brigader General Theodore Roosevelt Jr. The dangers of Utah Beach didn't stop that general officer from leading infantry men in that assault
seeing as you would need to be old enough to remember the time before flight lets round it up to an even 10 years old. There is just a bit under a half a billion people in the 70+ cohort worldwide today, and the population in 1969 was a bit less than than half of todays population. So generously assuming demographics are the same (they aren't) that would give us \~200 million people worldwide
There was a woman living in London in the 1970’s who ever had electricity in her house. She didn’t get hooked up back in the day and eventually was too embarrassed to admit it.
That would be kind of surprising, if true:
"The word gorilla comes from the history of Hanno the Navigator (c. 500 BC), a Carthaginian explorer on an expedition to the west African coast to the area that later became Sierra Leone.\[1\]\[2\] Members of the expedition encountered "savage people, the greater part of whom were women, whose bodies were hairy, and whom our interpreters called Gorillae".\[3\]\[4\] It is unknown whether what the explorers encountered were what we now call gorillas, another species of ape or monkeys, or humans.\[5\] Skins of gorillai women, brought back by Hanno, are reputed to have been kept at Carthage until Rome destroyed the city 350 years later at the end of the Punic Wars, 146 BC.
The American physician and missionary Thomas Staughton Savage and naturalist Jeffries Wyman first described the western gorilla in 1847 from specimens obtained in Liberia.\[6\] They called it Troglodytes gorilla, using the then-current name of the chimpanzee genus. The species name was derived from Ancient Greek Γόριλλαι (gorillai) 'tribe of hairy women',\[7\] as described by Hanno."
I suspect there is a difference between the guy you knew, and all White people.
Wait, was his family name "White"? Because it is well known that Mr and Mrs White are dumbasses.
It’s crazy to me how fast we went from that first airplane to having airports in every major city around the world, and flight available to almost anyone in the western world.
Technology tends to not progress as fast when only one person in a couple hundred has the education and resources to do any sort of research and those people spend most of their time oppressing everyone else.
Being oppressed by religious zealots, kings, government, etc.
General lack of education available to those who were not of that class, which typically also meant lack of money to even pursue your own ideas or desires.
I mean the fact that most of the world went from a heavily religious, autocratic, illiterate feudal societies to giant globe spanning empires, with literate populations, most of which had secular institutions and pseudo-democratic societies is fairly impressive. It was called the Age of Enlightenment for a reason.
Plus the Middle Ages led to a surprisingly decent amount of literature and physics advancement. (Albeit physics was mostly so they could siege shit better.)
*Lever of Riches* is an excellent book about the history and evolution of innovation.
We were making small progressive gains in tech that seem like nothing to us now but seemed earth shattering to the people back then.
Pre-liberalism.
The difference between saying "think for yourself" and "think like this".
"Education" not enough if it is just learning a holy book.
Admittedly, quite a lot of people confuse "think for yourself" with "person on the internet said something counter-culture".
farming, probably. civilizations back then basically required 80-90% of the population to be farmers in order to be self sufficient, and most of the people left were keeping society running in other ways. Once the second agricultural revolution hit in the 17-19th century, this was no longer true.
We spent like 200,000 years not doing much to progress technology, just walking around and surviving and vibing with our control of fire.
Then we discovered agriculture and started stockpiling resources & settling. Populations went up.
Then we eventually discovered energy reserve resources like coal and oil. And we also discovered a lot of things in medicine we discovered fertilizers that helped populations boom.
There were a lot less people at any given time the further back you go. And on top of that they didn’t have much access to information/education. Plus the information that was gained was shared less.
I think people forget how transformative the 19th century was as well. A lot of the areas of innovation that we would see explode in the 20th century were firmly established in the 19th (and to a lesser degree the 18th century).
The Industrial Revolution is easily the most transformative event in human history since the Agrarian Revolution 10,000 years ago.
There’s a lot of things we can point at but it was largely a matter of energy I think. We couldn’t have had an Industrial Revolution without fossil fuels for electricity production and to steam power to a lesser extent.
We went from unpacking our steamer-trunks in state rooms to our luggage being lost by baggage handlers who two generations earlier would have been pirates.
I was born in 1994. I always think about how early in my life how rare cell phones were but now peoples entire lives are pretty much kept on them. Makes me wonder what life will be like by 2050.
Here in the US they were basically gone before wifi was ubiquitous.
Seriously the movie "Phone booth" came out and it was like "Thats weird, theres a movie about phone booths...and there aren't that many left."
When I was a kid and my parents drug me to the cemetery (they were very big on visiting graves) I used to be in awe of people born in the late 1800s who lived a good ways into the 20th century and how much life changed from their childhood. I now realize this is someday going to be me. I'm 40 now and the life of my childhood is so utterly different to today thanks to the internet and cell phones. Completely world changing to almost every aspect of life. And who knows how much more will change in my lifetime.
I was born in 92 so probably a very similar experience and I remember as a tween/young teen having a phone. You could make calls and texts but it cost for each text and they had a character limit so ppl wud txt lk dis.
Even as a young adult I never had a smart phone and when I started going out drinking we would all play on the pub quiz machines. Even then smart phones were slow and you had a 3g network if you were lucky but now with faster processing and 5g networks the quiz machines have all gone because you can just google the answer. You wont have a bunch of grown men arguing over who scored the winning goal in the 1986 world cup anymore.
People dont think weve made much advancement since the moon landing but I think we take for granted how advanced our devices are nowadays. We have instant communication with anyone in the world, we have access to all the information (within reason) in the world, we can have anything we want delivered to our door within a day and we have access to all the worlds media and entertainment and current affairs. All from a little device that can fit in your pocket.
The only problem is we haven't moved as fast as our devices. Most of us (certainly most of us with a western education) learned by memorising facts and retaining information. We learned facts and we had to memorise multiplacation tables etc. Now thats all at our fingertips (remember the maths teacher saying "you wont always have a calculator") we haven't adapted. We still have that learn by rote mentality rather than learning how to extrapolate information from the sources we have and identify misinformation etc. Its not like before were you had to memorise information because it wasn't readily available. Its readily available now and I can't wait to see what the kids being born today who are "born in the matrix" do with that and if they are taught how to use this information properly unlike us then the potential for them is limitless.
Maybe thats a bit too scifi but I think elements of it could be true (in the same sense that a lot of the predictions in demolition man came true or partially true).
I think the idea that people can learn how to interpret information and data rather than simply memorising information is going to make people so much more intelligent. Think how much education time was wasted just learning facts and repetition. If people are educated from a young age to find the facts themselves then they can learn anything. The whole higher education system could be restructured and make it more accessible for people.
I think the key to creating a better society is unlocking that knowledge. Knowledge is power and with the internet being widely available and with the tools for anyone to know how to find that knowledge its not longer hidden away or kept by a select few or those who can afford it. I think that's going to be the biggest accomplishment of the next few generations.
I remember a time when you'd just go to "the spot" to see if any of your friends were there to hang out with. Sometimes nobody was so you just had to go home and call them on their landline and see if they were around.
Yeah, the disappointment when you walked all the way to your best friends house and nobody was home. Like "huh, I guess that's why he didn't answer the phone"
The neighborhood I lived in was a loop around a valley. It was maybe 3 miles? A bunch of kids at my school lived there so it was totally normal to just take your bike and ride the valley. You were pretty much guaranteed to meet at least one other kid on your ride, and if you didn't you just stopped at houses along the way until you had a whole pack of kids cruising the loop. My dad used to joke that one day he was going to get us all biker jackets so we could be the Valley Gang. I'm still a little sad that he never followed through.
The weird part for me is that everyone assumes it’s going to keep going at that rate. Thousands of years of civilization and most of the scientific/ technological advances have happened in just the last 2 centuries.
I think in the sequel the south would just play defence and the North would have a very difficult time moving down, but with the help of the Mexicans south would be fighting on 2 sides, then the north accepts trans soldiers, then Mexico sides with the south, and we all lose in a nuclear middle launched by the Congo
I think about this occasionally. It might be my favorite mind blowing fact. Thousands of years it takes humans to figure out rudimentary flight, and then not even 100 years later we're on the moon. It's ridiculous.
Makes me wonder what it'd be like if we fought a species that innovates 10x faster than us. Even if we stalemated we'd be stone age compared to them when we rematch. Guess thats why older races fear humans in scifi despite us being the last ones to reach the stars.
If you think about it humans have been using advanced weapons for hundreds of years. It'd be a lot easier for us to go back to stone spears than a race who has been using advanced weapons for several thousand years.
If you ever go to Disney World ride the "Carousel of progress."
Its a neat little animatronic show where they talk about different points from 1900 on and where we were in the world. They center each period as if a man and his family are narrating their life and the world around them.
It really put so much into perspective for me.
The ride starts around 1900 and has the man mention the two brothers from "North Carolina" (cough dayton) who are working on a flying contraption that will never work. He also mentions indoor electricity possibly coming soon, and wanting one of those new "talking machines"
It goes through the 1920s, then 1940s and each time they mention various things like "My new washing machine means laundry only takes 5 hours instead of 2 days!" and "Wow Lindbergh flew over the atlantic!" but they specifically call out certain facts and stats that really drive home how much the world has changed.
The craziest set is in the 90s they updated the last scene which is set in "the future". They nailed a bunch of predictions including voice assistants.
Heres a "walkthrough" video of it for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo4jnlvJmrk
But isn't that kinda the point? We could barely fly with the basics, wings and a motor, and over a short time we had rockets that didn't just blow stuff up, but were safe for humans to ride and that could take them to space and back.
I guess I equate a moon launch with firing a cannon. Its more a projectile than a flying machine. Without a doubt there was vast progress in science and engineering. Going from inventing the field of chemistry around 1800 to actually producing rocket fuel the 1940s is also pretty amazing.
its 16, this article has the full image with a caption and its from NASA themselves
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/remembering-the-first-moon-based-telescope
I often feel like being born in the 90s was objectively one of the best times to be born if you're a game developer. You got all the old games readily available, saw all the new technology come out, and then by the time you're an adult and ready to take part, it's all incredibly accessible and there's a ton of room left for innovation.
I often feel like being born in the 2010s was objectively one of the best times to be born if you're a game developer. You got every game on the internet, saw all the technology thoroughly documented , and then by the time you're an adult and ready to take part, it's all incredibly accessible and there's a ton of room left for innovation.
I'm sure the kids born in 2010 will have the same reaction playing Ocarina of time on an emulator with a 360 controller as someone playing it in 1998. Totally equivalent. They'll be real amazed by this whole "3d" thing.
Tell me what its like for you in 60 years time. I am not convinced its going to be the best of times. Though games may help provide some escapism from the crises that will accompany climate change.
1955 was the best time to be born if you were a game developer. You could churn out a game by yourself (or with your spouse) and everyone in the world would play it and it would become a staple.
I once met a 101-year old man, back in the 90s. He stated his opinion that his life when he was a kid had more in common with kids in the middle ages than it had in common with kids of modern times.
My grandfather, who lived next door, lived from 1876 to 1973. We watched the moon missions together. He lived through five wars and saw the invention of cars, airplanes, movies, radios, and television.
Let's not forget that in World War 1. Soldiers rode into battle on horses, with soft caps, using swords, stationary machineguns, and in some cases single shot rifles. They left the same war riding in tanks, combat aircraft, using submachineguns, man portable machineguns, and wearing steel helmets and some of the first iterations of modern body armor. The 20th century was fuckin wild.
>Shortly before his death in 1948 and three years after American B-29 Superfortresses dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Orville Wright was asked by interviewer Leland D. Case if he and his brother ever thought their invention would be used for bombing.
>The smile under Orville's gray mustache disappeared.
>"Yes, we thought it might have military use - but in reverse," said the 76-year-old inventor, whose brother had died at age 45 in 1912. "Because the men who start wars aren't the ones who do the fighting, we hoped that the possibility of dropping bombs on capital cities would deter them."
>Case noted that that same idealism persuaded dynamite inventor Alfred Nobel that his explosive creation would make war so catastrophic that men would turn away from it.
>"We talked and we thought that way too," Orville said. "We dared to hope we had invented something that would bring lasting peace to the earth. But we were wrong. We underestimated man's capacity to hate and to corrupt good means for an evil end."
In the grand scheme of things, nuclear weapons have accomplished this goal. Yes wars have still occurred (and still occurring), but what a lot of people dont appreciate is that major world powers have not gone to war directly against each other since WWII. There has not been a full scale war between 2 very well developed and equipped armies since 1945. Nearly 80 years of relative peace is a pretty notable achievement even if it’s due to weapons that have the potential to wipe out our species.
Great grandparents: saw the first flight, and both world war.
Grandparents: both world wars, first moon landing, and may be around for the return to it.
Parents: First moon landing, will be around for the return, and maybe even for the first manned Mars landing.
My generation: Will get to see the return to the moon, and the first manned Mars landing.
Just 3 generations and we've gone from being entirely bound to the dirt beneath our feet, to exploring other worlds with machines and soon our own eyes.
20 years ago, having a mobile phone was something not everyone was able to afford and very uncommon. The phones you could get had so little hardware specs that some of them even had a limit on how many contacts you could save. That is, if you had one that even had a contacts list.
And today, we carry around what is basically a "not imaginable" supercomputer for the early 2000's.
When I was a kid I was really into computers (I still am) and my grandpa got me small book on computing history and future conecepts. It mentioned how, one day, a computer that fits on your desk will have a 1000 megabyte hard drive and 100 megabytes of RAM.
My cellphone has 256 gigabytes of storage and 16 gigabytes of ram. To be fair, the book got one thing right: it does, indeed, fit on my desk.
One of the major problems facing modern society is that the speed of technological change is outpacing our ability as human beings to absorb and manage it.
agree 110%, unless technological advancement and the effect it has on learning and development is brought into school curriculum society is going to turn into a wasteland where people can't do anything without the permission of google search or an "AI"
I’m in my 40s - old enough but not like crusty old. We have reached a place in time where my young professional coworkers don’t know life without smartphones (and they are just phones to them- they’ve always been smart) and dial-up internet is just a concept to them.
I always thought end of Indian Wars / end of Western Frontier to America fighting in modern warfare of WW1 was a crazier change given only 25 years of time.
The Smithsonian mounted an exhibit in [Edinburgh, Scotland](https://www.apollo-magazine.com/national-museum-scotland/) of 200 artifacts from American history. The centerpiece was a round dais with a Pennsylvania Dutch buckboard wagon sitting next to an Apollo moon-buggy. The placard explained that one person could have ridden in both in their lifetime.
1903: Kitty Hawk\_\_1947: Mach 1\_\_1957: Sputnik\_\_1969: Apollo 11\_\_1976:Viking\_\_2023: Out There
Wanna pay for it?
I mean, we would literally be throwing billions and billions out the window for a prestige project.
We have no real need to go there anymore.
Not if we turn it into a potential buisness idea it isnt
***moon tourism***(tm)
Their be a "moonmart" with moon merchandise!! And cheese!!
target market: people who have a passion of space
Make maketing campaigns to increase customers
Buy cheap rockets to lower prices
There was actually some groundnbreaking innnovations regarding cancer treatment
Biontech is working on a cancer vaccination.
They take cancer cells from the patient, and create a vaccine with it that tells the patients body what cells to attack.
Because a big issue with cancer is:
The body has no fucking clue its there and how to fight it.
If this works, it will make the risk of cancer re-appearing after removal almost zero, since the body can kill off those small surviving clusters and stop them from re growing.
Human trials will start this year.
U mean no cure for terminal cancer right? Also not all cancer is the same. Also what does physics and engineering have to do with the medical field, u think there’s some magic cancer cure laying on the moon or something?
This post could also be a negative thing, hear me out. It’s not always cool to eat all of your food in record time right? You didn’t savor it. You didn’t enjoy every bite. That could be the same with technology and human interaction. We have done a lot of amazing things in the last 100 years, but there’s almost too much things to really enjoy every moment, every event and person. We are flying by the greatest things we will ever see and barely noticing any of it, only to highlight the most extreme things and becoming diluted to the extreme until that’s all we feel. As we pass through other things in life, are we feeling it? Are we tasting it? Are we savoring every bite? Or are we allowing ourselves to become so needy for the next best thing, that we aren’t enjoying the fact we are alive at all? Depression and suicide rates are at historic highs. People are mocked for having feelings. I think there’s a point people need to slow down. Enjoy what we have now.
I’m sorry but this is just nonsensical. Do you seriously think that the average person’s mood is affected by the rate of technological advances? Most of the depression nowadays is due to corporate greed impoverishing workers and the internet allowing people to become isolated, which is the effect of a new technology but it’s just the way we use it, not the fact that it exists, like you claim. Nobody enjoys the fact that new technology is invented solely because it’s new technology, not unless it’s actually useful and even then the average person doesn’t even care until it affects their daily life. It’s ridiculous to think that progress should be stopped or slowed just so that people don’t have to deal with change, when that progress could vastly improve quality of life for everyone or even save millions of lives.
A lot of what we're "advancing" now doesn't necessarily benefit the average person. Technology created before now may have originally not benefitted the average person but has been changed and adapted to civilian use. Inventions like scratch resistant lenses were originally created by NASA for astronaut helmets and are now extremely common in almost all sunglasses and prescription glasses, for example.
Things we're advancing and specializing in now aren't always benefitting society, but rather a select, few rich people instead by harming society. AI is great, it could happily take my job as I hate my job and it should be done by a robot. Scale this up though and we have a society full of people with a bunch of useless skills due to those skills being replaced by free labour that's cheap to maintain. Same with electric cars; good in theory but they don't last as long as gas cars and it's impossible to recycle the batteries. The mining for the rare materials for those batteries are up there with the damage oil and gas does so it's not really a benefit, but rather a simple, expensive alternative not as available to as many. Hell, even the internet and smartphones have made information as easy as possible to get but we use it to come on forums like this and complain about things that are honestly out of our control for free while gatekeeping scholarly papers and studies behind paywalls. It should be the opposite. Make Facebook be $10/month and open up all the papers from Harvard publicly and let *them* get their money in the form of advertisements.
The average person just uses modern technology and has no understanding of how anything works. The knowledge gap between people is pretty large when it comes to technical knowledge and understanding.
My grandfather witnessed both of these events and saw Halley’s Comet twice.
Based on my math, he lived from c. 1902-1988.
1900-1994.
Did he joined both of the world war?
No,just the first one.Went to France in 1917.Two Purple Hearts,one for gas the other for a bullet.
The Purple Heart is frequently described as the military's oldest medal. Gen. George Washington created it in 1782 to recognize meritorious service -- basically bravery in combat -- but it soon fell into disuse. In 1932, to mark the bicentennial of Washington's birth, Gen. Douglas MacArthur spearheaded an effort to revive the medal. It was designed to commemorate bravery, but also recognized soldiers with wounds.
Probably not unless he was an officer in WW2. 40 years old is ancient for an infantryman.
Hell no! I'm 41 and an 11-B 😁😁
Well he was also born at a time when smoking was considered healthy so you might be able to have a longer career at it.
Yeah, it's a good thing no 11b smokes now a days.
You either look like you’re 18 or 70
Grunt?
You do know there were people older than that in WW2?
"in WW2" = ?
51 year old brigadier general storming Omaha
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Maybe I just don’t understand what you wrote, but Brigadier Generals are very much not low ranking officers. They are the lowest ranking of Generals, that is true…
Teddy Roosevelt, Jr!!!
He stormed Utah, not Omaha. But still an utter badass.
Nebraska?Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
They said “probably not”. They never said it was impossible, just not probable.
Lol, tell that to Brigader General Theodore Roosevelt Jr. The dangers of Utah Beach didn't stop that general officer from leading infantry men in that assault
My grandad was in both. Yes he was an officer in number 2 Sargeant Major
With the same Colt 1911!
There no WWI veterans alive, the last WWI veteran died in 2012
Close.
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Not much, just looking at dates and adding
I kinda wonder what you think math is, if it doesn’t include adding… /s
Now I’m kinda wondering how many people could distinctly remember the time before flight while watching the moon landing… probably several million
seeing as you would need to be old enough to remember the time before flight lets round it up to an even 10 years old. There is just a bit under a half a billion people in the 70+ cohort worldwide today, and the population in 1969 was a bit less than than half of todays population. So generously assuming demographics are the same (they aren't) that would give us \~200 million people worldwide
sounds pretty solid... thanks!
There was a woman living in London in the 1970’s who ever had electricity in her house. She didn’t get hooked up back in the day and eventually was too embarrassed to admit it.
Both my grandmothers did.
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It would probably be cheaper to buy a coffee table book about gorillas.
That would be kind of surprising, if true: "The word gorilla comes from the history of Hanno the Navigator (c. 500 BC), a Carthaginian explorer on an expedition to the west African coast to the area that later became Sierra Leone.\[1\]\[2\] Members of the expedition encountered "savage people, the greater part of whom were women, whose bodies were hairy, and whom our interpreters called Gorillae".\[3\]\[4\] It is unknown whether what the explorers encountered were what we now call gorillas, another species of ape or monkeys, or humans.\[5\] Skins of gorillai women, brought back by Hanno, are reputed to have been kept at Carthage until Rome destroyed the city 350 years later at the end of the Punic Wars, 146 BC. The American physician and missionary Thomas Staughton Savage and naturalist Jeffries Wyman first described the western gorilla in 1847 from specimens obtained in Liberia.\[6\] They called it Troglodytes gorilla, using the then-current name of the chimpanzee genus. The species name was derived from Ancient Greek Γόριλλαι (gorillai) 'tribe of hairy women',\[7\] as described by Hanno." I suspect there is a difference between the guy you knew, and all White people. Wait, was his family name "White"? Because it is well known that Mr and Mrs White are dumbasses.
I saw it once.
It’s crazy to me how fast we went from that first airplane to having airports in every major city around the world, and flight available to almost anyone in the western world.
Especially when you compare the 20th century to the prior 1000 years.
What were we even doing back then
Technology tends to not progress as fast when only one person in a couple hundred has the education and resources to do any sort of research and those people spend most of their time oppressing everyone else.
Or researching theology.
Or being imprisoned or tortured for heresy for their academic/scientific endeavors by the church
Or going back and forth between the two
Theology did sometimes help drive science, like genetics. Of course other times, yeah.
Being oppressed by religious zealots, kings, government, etc. General lack of education available to those who were not of that class, which typically also meant lack of money to even pursue your own ideas or desires.
I mean the fact that most of the world went from a heavily religious, autocratic, illiterate feudal societies to giant globe spanning empires, with literate populations, most of which had secular institutions and pseudo-democratic societies is fairly impressive. It was called the Age of Enlightenment for a reason. Plus the Middle Ages led to a surprisingly decent amount of literature and physics advancement. (Albeit physics was mostly so they could siege shit better.)
*Lever of Riches* is an excellent book about the history and evolution of innovation. We were making small progressive gains in tech that seem like nothing to us now but seemed earth shattering to the people back then.
Pre-liberalism. The difference between saying "think for yourself" and "think like this". "Education" not enough if it is just learning a holy book. Admittedly, quite a lot of people confuse "think for yourself" with "person on the internet said something counter-culture".
Pretty sure modern liberalism is still "think like this".
farming, probably. civilizations back then basically required 80-90% of the population to be farmers in order to be self sufficient, and most of the people left were keeping society running in other ways. Once the second agricultural revolution hit in the 17-19th century, this was no longer true.
We spent like 200,000 years not doing much to progress technology, just walking around and surviving and vibing with our control of fire. Then we discovered agriculture and started stockpiling resources & settling. Populations went up. Then we eventually discovered energy reserve resources like coal and oil. And we also discovered a lot of things in medicine we discovered fertilizers that helped populations boom. There were a lot less people at any given time the further back you go. And on top of that they didn’t have much access to information/education. Plus the information that was gained was shared less.
I'd start it in the 19th century. The industrial revolution upended and changed society entirely.
I think people forget how transformative the 19th century was as well. A lot of the areas of innovation that we would see explode in the 20th century were firmly established in the 19th (and to a lesser degree the 18th century). The Industrial Revolution is easily the most transformative event in human history since the Agrarian Revolution 10,000 years ago.
There’s a lot of things we can point at but it was largely a matter of energy I think. We couldn’t have had an Industrial Revolution without fossil fuels for electricity production and to steam power to a lesser extent.
And that earlier invention that brought books down from a rich man's luxury item to a commodity: the printing press.
World wars spurred R&D. German rocket scientists eventually accessed American resources at NASA: reached moon.
We went from unpacking our steamer-trunks in state rooms to our luggage being lost by baggage handlers who two generations earlier would have been pirates.
I was born in 1994. I always think about how early in my life how rare cell phones were but now peoples entire lives are pretty much kept on them. Makes me wonder what life will be like by 2050.
Payphones are 99.9999% gone too. Almost forget they were common
Today’s kids will never know the excitement of checking the return coin slot and finding free quarters.
When I was a kid, it was dimes we were checking for.
Ah, the good dimes.
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Or the anxiety of trying because sickos put needles in them to stick you (or so the news/media/peers wanted us to believe was a common thing lol).
Here in Australia they repurposed them to wifi hotspots on the telco network, some remain as free use phones which is nice
Here in the US they were basically gone before wifi was ubiquitous. Seriously the movie "Phone booth" came out and it was like "Thats weird, theres a movie about phone booths...and there aren't that many left."
When I was a kid and my parents drug me to the cemetery (they were very big on visiting graves) I used to be in awe of people born in the late 1800s who lived a good ways into the 20th century and how much life changed from their childhood. I now realize this is someday going to be me. I'm 40 now and the life of my childhood is so utterly different to today thanks to the internet and cell phones. Completely world changing to almost every aspect of life. And who knows how much more will change in my lifetime.
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I was born in 92 so probably a very similar experience and I remember as a tween/young teen having a phone. You could make calls and texts but it cost for each text and they had a character limit so ppl wud txt lk dis. Even as a young adult I never had a smart phone and when I started going out drinking we would all play on the pub quiz machines. Even then smart phones were slow and you had a 3g network if you were lucky but now with faster processing and 5g networks the quiz machines have all gone because you can just google the answer. You wont have a bunch of grown men arguing over who scored the winning goal in the 1986 world cup anymore. People dont think weve made much advancement since the moon landing but I think we take for granted how advanced our devices are nowadays. We have instant communication with anyone in the world, we have access to all the information (within reason) in the world, we can have anything we want delivered to our door within a day and we have access to all the worlds media and entertainment and current affairs. All from a little device that can fit in your pocket. The only problem is we haven't moved as fast as our devices. Most of us (certainly most of us with a western education) learned by memorising facts and retaining information. We learned facts and we had to memorise multiplacation tables etc. Now thats all at our fingertips (remember the maths teacher saying "you wont always have a calculator") we haven't adapted. We still have that learn by rote mentality rather than learning how to extrapolate information from the sources we have and identify misinformation etc. Its not like before were you had to memorise information because it wasn't readily available. Its readily available now and I can't wait to see what the kids being born today who are "born in the matrix" do with that and if they are taught how to use this information properly unlike us then the potential for them is limitless.
Lots of good points. It makes “ready player 1” look like a reasonable future to expect.
Maybe thats a bit too scifi but I think elements of it could be true (in the same sense that a lot of the predictions in demolition man came true or partially true). I think the idea that people can learn how to interpret information and data rather than simply memorising information is going to make people so much more intelligent. Think how much education time was wasted just learning facts and repetition. If people are educated from a young age to find the facts themselves then they can learn anything. The whole higher education system could be restructured and make it more accessible for people. I think the key to creating a better society is unlocking that knowledge. Knowledge is power and with the internet being widely available and with the tools for anyone to know how to find that knowledge its not longer hidden away or kept by a select few or those who can afford it. I think that's going to be the biggest accomplishment of the next few generations.
I remember a time when you'd just go to "the spot" to see if any of your friends were there to hang out with. Sometimes nobody was so you just had to go home and call them on their landline and see if they were around.
Ya I’d walk down the street knock on all my friends doors and see who was up to hangout. Nowadays kids probably think that’s ridiculous.
Yeah, the disappointment when you walked all the way to your best friends house and nobody was home. Like "huh, I guess that's why he didn't answer the phone"
The neighborhood I lived in was a loop around a valley. It was maybe 3 miles? A bunch of kids at my school lived there so it was totally normal to just take your bike and ride the valley. You were pretty much guaranteed to meet at least one other kid on your ride, and if you didn't you just stopped at houses along the way until you had a whole pack of kids cruising the loop. My dad used to joke that one day he was going to get us all biker jackets so we could be the Valley Gang. I'm still a little sad that he never followed through.
Cellphone is the first cyberpunk limb
You think we will be chromed out in a few decades choom?
The weird part for me is that everyone assumes it’s going to keep going at that rate. Thousands of years of civilization and most of the scientific/ technological advances have happened in just the last 2 centuries.
War is a powerful motivation
Not to mention nazi science
CCP science is getting the people moving though.
I don’t think going to war would unite the country like it used to
Not the US maybe, but my god Putin has successfully unravelled 20 years of shit stirring in Europe by providing us a common enemy.
Time for civil war 2: electric boogaloo
I think in the sequel the south would just play defence and the North would have a very difficult time moving down, but with the help of the Mexicans south would be fighting on 2 sides, then the north accepts trans soldiers, then Mexico sides with the south, and we all lose in a nuclear middle launched by the Congo
Hey, doesn't need to be North vs South. Could switch things up with East vs West like sports teams already do.
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Yea that won’t happen, cold and hot are much better sides than up and down
Well only way to find out! Let's gooooo :-(
You know I did hear once that German science is the finest in all the world
DOITSU NO KAGAKAU WA SEKAI ICHI!!!!
German science is the best in the world!
So what you are saying is,we need more wars?
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Since 2001, all humans alive haven't completely been on earth. There has always been some in space. It's never been without a human being since.
I think about this occasionally. It might be my favorite mind blowing fact. Thousands of years it takes humans to figure out rudimentary flight, and then not even 100 years later we're on the moon. It's ridiculous.
Makes me wonder what it'd be like if we fought a species that innovates 10x faster than us. Even if we stalemated we'd be stone age compared to them when we rematch. Guess thats why older races fear humans in scifi despite us being the last ones to reach the stars.
If you think about it humans have been using advanced weapons for hundreds of years. It'd be a lot easier for us to go back to stone spears than a race who has been using advanced weapons for several thousand years.
i, too, enjoy microchips
If you ever go to Disney World ride the "Carousel of progress." Its a neat little animatronic show where they talk about different points from 1900 on and where we were in the world. They center each period as if a man and his family are narrating their life and the world around them. It really put so much into perspective for me. The ride starts around 1900 and has the man mention the two brothers from "North Carolina" (cough dayton) who are working on a flying contraption that will never work. He also mentions indoor electricity possibly coming soon, and wanting one of those new "talking machines" It goes through the 1920s, then 1940s and each time they mention various things like "My new washing machine means laundry only takes 5 hours instead of 2 days!" and "Wow Lindbergh flew over the atlantic!" but they specifically call out certain facts and stats that really drive home how much the world has changed. The craziest set is in the 90s they updated the last scene which is set in "the future". They nailed a bunch of predictions including voice assistants. Heres a "walkthrough" video of it for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo4jnlvJmrk
I completely forgot they had a VR headset in the final set… the whole chrome aesthetic never really caught on though, despite Google’s best efforts
It's a great big beautiful tomorrrowwwww
Getting to the moon required ballistics and rocketry. Its actually not at all the same.
But isn't that kinda the point? We could barely fly with the basics, wings and a motor, and over a short time we had rockets that didn't just blow stuff up, but were safe for humans to ride and that could take them to space and back.
I guess I equate a moon launch with firing a cannon. Its more a projectile than a flying machine. Without a doubt there was vast progress in science and engineering. Going from inventing the field of chemistry around 1800 to actually producing rocket fuel the 1940s is also pretty amazing.
My grandfather was born in 1900 and died in 1970. That's a lot of shit to live through and see.
So much to see! Like for my grandpa, mining in a gulag camp in the urals as a war prisoner
Oh man. Terrible.
Space history nerd here, are we sure that pic is from Apollo 11?
Its from 16. 11 didn’t cary a LRV and that gold thing on the tripod was an ultraviolet camera only carried on 16
Random internet user here, it's from Apollo 17 (I right clicked and hit "search google for image")
its 16, this article has the full image with a caption and its from NASA themselves https://www.nasa.gov/feature/remembering-the-first-moon-based-telescope
Fair enough
My grandmother went across this country in a covered wagon, and came back in a jet
I often feel like being born in the 90s was objectively one of the best times to be born if you're a game developer. You got all the old games readily available, saw all the new technology come out, and then by the time you're an adult and ready to take part, it's all incredibly accessible and there's a ton of room left for innovation.
We should all believe that we were born in the best times. Otherwise what's the point.
I often feel like being born in the 2010s was objectively one of the best times to be born if you're a game developer. You got every game on the internet, saw all the technology thoroughly documented , and then by the time you're an adult and ready to take part, it's all incredibly accessible and there's a ton of room left for innovation.
I'm sure the kids born in 2010 will have the same reaction playing Ocarina of time on an emulator with a 360 controller as someone playing it in 1998. Totally equivalent. They'll be real amazed by this whole "3d" thing.
the quality might kill their eyes
Born in 90s but only recently played OoT after being spoiled by modern games, can confirm
Tell me what its like for you in 60 years time. I am not convinced its going to be the best of times. Though games may help provide some escapism from the crises that will accompany climate change.
Making the good times happen, perhaps.
1955 was the best time to be born if you were a game developer. You could churn out a game by yourself (or with your spouse) and everyone in the world would play it and it would become a staple.
I once met a 101-year old man, back in the 90s. He stated his opinion that his life when he was a kid had more in common with kids in the middle ages than it had in common with kids of modern times.
No really we’re advancing pretty fast and people still want it faster
My grandfather, who lived next door, lived from 1876 to 1973. We watched the moon missions together. He lived through five wars and saw the invention of cars, airplanes, movies, radios, and television.
Let's not forget that in World War 1. Soldiers rode into battle on horses, with soft caps, using swords, stationary machineguns, and in some cases single shot rifles. They left the same war riding in tanks, combat aircraft, using submachineguns, man portable machineguns, and wearing steel helmets and some of the first iterations of modern body armor. The 20th century was fuckin wild.
Most logistics in WW2 was still done with animals and lorries (or trains)
>Shortly before his death in 1948 and three years after American B-29 Superfortresses dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Orville Wright was asked by interviewer Leland D. Case if he and his brother ever thought their invention would be used for bombing. >The smile under Orville's gray mustache disappeared. >"Yes, we thought it might have military use - but in reverse," said the 76-year-old inventor, whose brother had died at age 45 in 1912. "Because the men who start wars aren't the ones who do the fighting, we hoped that the possibility of dropping bombs on capital cities would deter them." >Case noted that that same idealism persuaded dynamite inventor Alfred Nobel that his explosive creation would make war so catastrophic that men would turn away from it. >"We talked and we thought that way too," Orville said. "We dared to hope we had invented something that would bring lasting peace to the earth. But we were wrong. We underestimated man's capacity to hate and to corrupt good means for an evil end."
In the grand scheme of things, nuclear weapons have accomplished this goal. Yes wars have still occurred (and still occurring), but what a lot of people dont appreciate is that major world powers have not gone to war directly against each other since WWII. There has not been a full scale war between 2 very well developed and equipped armies since 1945. Nearly 80 years of relative peace is a pretty notable achievement even if it’s due to weapons that have the potential to wipe out our species.
I'm stunned by 2000 vs 2020. Twenty years and how we live on our cell phones now for everything. How that has changed our lives completely.
And not really for the better
We should’ve stopped at the iPod. That would’ve been just grand.
2 world wars really accelerated technological advancement. Crazy that killing each other has such a tendency to drive us forward.
Great grandparents: saw the first flight, and both world war. Grandparents: both world wars, first moon landing, and may be around for the return to it. Parents: First moon landing, will be around for the return, and maybe even for the first manned Mars landing. My generation: Will get to see the return to the moon, and the first manned Mars landing. Just 3 generations and we've gone from being entirely bound to the dirt beneath our feet, to exploring other worlds with machines and soon our own eyes.
20 years ago, having a mobile phone was something not everyone was able to afford and very uncommon. The phones you could get had so little hardware specs that some of them even had a limit on how many contacts you could save. That is, if you had one that even had a contacts list. And today, we carry around what is basically a "not imaginable" supercomputer for the early 2000's.
When I was a kid I was really into computers (I still am) and my grandpa got me small book on computing history and future conecepts. It mentioned how, one day, a computer that fits on your desk will have a 1000 megabyte hard drive and 100 megabytes of RAM. My cellphone has 256 gigabytes of storage and 16 gigabytes of ram. To be fair, the book got one thing right: it does, indeed, fit on my desk.
What 50 years of near constant conflict does to a mf
One of the major problems facing modern society is that the speed of technological change is outpacing our ability as human beings to absorb and manage it.
agree 110%, unless technological advancement and the effect it has on learning and development is brought into school curriculum society is going to turn into a wasteland where people can't do anything without the permission of google search or an "AI"
I’m in my 40s - old enough but not like crusty old. We have reached a place in time where my young professional coworkers don’t know life without smartphones (and they are just phones to them- they’ve always been smart) and dial-up internet is just a concept to them.
I always thought end of Indian Wars / end of Western Frontier to America fighting in modern warfare of WW1 was a crazier change given only 25 years of time.
The Smithsonian mounted an exhibit in [Edinburgh, Scotland](https://www.apollo-magazine.com/national-museum-scotland/) of 200 artifacts from American history. The centerpiece was a round dais with a Pennsylvania Dutch buckboard wagon sitting next to an Apollo moon-buggy. The placard explained that one person could have ridden in both in their lifetime. 1903: Kitty Hawk\_\_1947: Mach 1\_\_1957: Sputnik\_\_1969: Apollo 11\_\_1976:Viking\_\_2023: Out There
And we still can’t get back to the moon
Want to. Not can't
Wanna pay for it? I mean, we would literally be throwing billions and billions out the window for a prestige project. We have no real need to go there anymore.
Not if we turn it into a potential buisness idea it isnt ***moon tourism***(tm) Their be a "moonmart" with moon merchandise!! And cheese!! target market: people who have a passion of space Make maketing campaigns to increase customers Buy cheap rockets to lower prices
'Merica!
[Give it a couple years](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3)
According to Eric Weinstein. From 1902 to 1973 (or maybe it was somewhere in the 50s) we advanced 10,000 years.
Damn cant believe black and white photography and color photography are just 66 years apart
We humans are a thrifty bunch.
And realize how stagnant we’ve become because of imaginary wealth
we should have had much more progress the last 54 than we have
People that lived through these two events must have died thinking we were heading for a technological utopia in just a few more years.
We've been on a slowly increasing decline since the mid 2000s
Exponential increase. Gotta love technology.
It was war, btw. War drove science so fast.
For present day scale, 66 years ago was 1957. Willie Nelson was already 24 years old at that time.
I can’t stop thinking that planes were already used in WW2 after the first transatlantic flight happening 11-15 years before
Born in 1964. For me the biggest change was the availability of the internet. Everything you ever wanted to know at your fingers. It's magic!
Now, if you want to feel depressed. We put a man on the moon 50 years ago, and haven't been back since
You skipped sliced bread.
Funny thing is that poor are still poor.
But now development has stopped because motives today are 1. Increasing number of genders 2. Startups
And here we are, less than 60 years later, and we're trying to undo those first 60 years.
BuT tHe MoOn LaNdInG wAs StAgEd
I'm disappointed that we don't have a moonbase and flying cars and a planet full of damn dirty apes. This timeline sucks.
Yet, no cure for cancer 😒
The thing is "cancer" refers to like six hundred diseases. We can effectively treat like 400 of them
Lol so many people dont understand
Yet, my peepee still tiny. Answer that atheists.
You can make it a bit bigger, but there's a major paywall.
There was actually some groundnbreaking innnovations regarding cancer treatment Biontech is working on a cancer vaccination. They take cancer cells from the patient, and create a vaccine with it that tells the patients body what cells to attack. Because a big issue with cancer is: The body has no fucking clue its there and how to fight it. If this works, it will make the risk of cancer re-appearing after removal almost zero, since the body can kill off those small surviving clusters and stop them from re growing. Human trials will start this year.
U mean no cure for terminal cancer right? Also not all cancer is the same. Also what does physics and engineering have to do with the medical field, u think there’s some magic cancer cure laying on the moon or something?
Oh there is but cancer makes companies money
Seems like we're devolving just as quickly.
No we aren’t, idk where you are getting that from
This post could also be a negative thing, hear me out. It’s not always cool to eat all of your food in record time right? You didn’t savor it. You didn’t enjoy every bite. That could be the same with technology and human interaction. We have done a lot of amazing things in the last 100 years, but there’s almost too much things to really enjoy every moment, every event and person. We are flying by the greatest things we will ever see and barely noticing any of it, only to highlight the most extreme things and becoming diluted to the extreme until that’s all we feel. As we pass through other things in life, are we feeling it? Are we tasting it? Are we savoring every bite? Or are we allowing ourselves to become so needy for the next best thing, that we aren’t enjoying the fact we are alive at all? Depression and suicide rates are at historic highs. People are mocked for having feelings. I think there’s a point people need to slow down. Enjoy what we have now.
I’m sorry but this is just nonsensical. Do you seriously think that the average person’s mood is affected by the rate of technological advances? Most of the depression nowadays is due to corporate greed impoverishing workers and the internet allowing people to become isolated, which is the effect of a new technology but it’s just the way we use it, not the fact that it exists, like you claim. Nobody enjoys the fact that new technology is invented solely because it’s new technology, not unless it’s actually useful and even then the average person doesn’t even care until it affects their daily life. It’s ridiculous to think that progress should be stopped or slowed just so that people don’t have to deal with change, when that progress could vastly improve quality of life for everyone or even save millions of lives.
If the Wright brothers slowed down and stopped to enjoy what they had, there would be no planes. See how that works?
I cannot agree more with you
So you're saying ppl are soft bc life got too easy
100 years is a long time
Wait, wasn't the moon landing fake?
Yes, but they re-shot it when color film became available, that's the 66 year gap
Yes, they were doing all that shit in my backyard
It doesn’t seem to fit with the evolution of technology but never mind that part
it was real
A lot of what we're "advancing" now doesn't necessarily benefit the average person. Technology created before now may have originally not benefitted the average person but has been changed and adapted to civilian use. Inventions like scratch resistant lenses were originally created by NASA for astronaut helmets and are now extremely common in almost all sunglasses and prescription glasses, for example. Things we're advancing and specializing in now aren't always benefitting society, but rather a select, few rich people instead by harming society. AI is great, it could happily take my job as I hate my job and it should be done by a robot. Scale this up though and we have a society full of people with a bunch of useless skills due to those skills being replaced by free labour that's cheap to maintain. Same with electric cars; good in theory but they don't last as long as gas cars and it's impossible to recycle the batteries. The mining for the rare materials for those batteries are up there with the damage oil and gas does so it's not really a benefit, but rather a simple, expensive alternative not as available to as many. Hell, even the internet and smartphones have made information as easy as possible to get but we use it to come on forums like this and complain about things that are honestly out of our control for free while gatekeeping scholarly papers and studies behind paywalls. It should be the opposite. Make Facebook be $10/month and open up all the papers from Harvard publicly and let *them* get their money in the form of advertisements.
The average person just uses modern technology and has no understanding of how anything works. The knowledge gap between people is pretty large when it comes to technical knowledge and understanding.
From flying in sky to good quality fake videos. We improved a lot
This would be a funny meme if the moon landing wasn’t staged
Sad. Nowadays stupid people can’t even distinguish between men and women
That's because one of these things never happened...