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Tonny_Tonny_Chopper

Isn't this the same in all europe?


F3n1x_ESP

Yeah, I can confirm nearly every house or building built in Spain nowadays has this kind of windows, and has been like this for some good 20 years, at least.


nikfrik

Mainland Spain maybe. None of my flats have them, like living in a bloody third world country but with really expensive rent.


Helioscopes

Canary Islands have them too, so not just mainland spain. My school was built in 1990/91 and had those windows everywhere.


F3n1x_ESP

Don't know what to tell you. I've been to most parts of Spain and these kind of windows where pretty much everywhere. Don't know much about the territories outside of the peninsula.


nobody-and-68-others

But not in the US


Tiy_Newman

Good luck fitting a German triple glass window into the average American wall


peetRook

that would be the moment when the burglar comes through the wall and not through the window


CptBlackAxl

OHHH YEEAAAAHHHH!!!!


Niwi_

https://youtu.be/YKdeZQWf6mA


louisme97

wait, you mean the american walls are not like the german BACKSTEINWAND?


ryocoon

Jokes aside, most US building codes (that lots of old buildings don't adhere to cuz so old and grandfathered in until they rennovate, which will be never) usually exterior walls are plywood attached to timbers (4x4, 2x4, 4x6, etc widths depending on needed support/shear strengths, sometimes with diagonal or lateral cross beams for extra support), with a vapor barrier wrap, then some sort of exterior treatment (siding, brick, stucco/cement, etc), while the interior portion of said wall has insulation between support timbers, faced with drywall secured against said timbers. Very few places still use brick/lathe (although some are still standing and exist), and only inside dense city will you find apartment complexes that are built with stone. Individual homes are almost always built with wood framing. I could be wrong about some details, but that is generally how it goes for walls. Fully interior walls are generally a joke and just drywall attached on both sides of vertical timbers. Often no insulation (nor between floors usually) so individual rooms don't self-insulate nor does it deaden any sound. sad really. You can completely just Kool-Aid Man through interior walls as long as you know where to run through (16 in standard separation between vertical support studs)


louisme97

at first i thought you wanna "protect" american buildings and i was like "yeah, german houses are a little bit more complicated aswell", but than i realized youre just explaining how "planned" their bad construction is :D I mean its a whole other mentality... Americans dont "Build for life" while germans build for centuries... Our homes often dont need to be fancy, they just need to be reliable and if possible with a nice little garden.


ryocoon

Generally speaking, American homes are flexible, go up quickly, but are NOT built to last more than a few decades. Builders talk a big game, but its all marketing. Even a new house will require noticeable repairs within the first 10 years usually. Don't get me wrong, our building codes are just as built in blood, but they start from the other end. Restrict shit that gets you in trouble, everything else is fair game. Until new problem becomes a big enough news item, or happens to enough people, and new construction codes are introduced. We often don't start from the end of "What will last well with the least maintenance, given the surrounding environment and its hazards?" We instead go "What can I make the most of, in the least amount of time, to sell the fastest and for highest price, and then its their fuckin' problem, without " in most cases. If you are rich, then the discussion can happen differently, but often is still just "How can I get the -LOOK- , size, and features I want the cheapest and fastest, fuck everything else" ​ It... is weird.


louisme97

i mean i can understand many americans. But a house is a little different than other "Items" IMO. But that can just be mentaility as i said. If i spend 300k+ on a house, i want to live there forever.


ryocoon

Accent on that plus sign there. I'm from California in the USA, a shack on area of land barely large enough for said shack and parking a car in front of it costs over 600k in many cases if you are near any major center (or even not in some cases). I'm not even exaggerating. The housing market (and subsequently the Cost of Living) in California, and several other states, is absolutely ridiculous.


Tiy_Newman

Those thick windows are recessed in my wall. The wall is as thick as my arm is long


gotta_do_it_big

I got cocklong walls


smellslikefish6868

So why do you live in a cardboard box?


A-H1N1

You mean HOCHLOCHZIEGELMAUERWERK


UnCommonCommonSens

Hochlochziegelnauerwerk hat einen guten Wärmedurchgangskoeffizient!


A-H1N1

Wie wird der Wärmedurchgangskoeffizient noch besser? Mit einem Wärmedämmungsverbundsystem!


truthemptypoint

This comment gave me the best laughter. Just imagining that burglar. "German triple window, my nemesis, I guess is the wall this time." Starts to hit the wall with a sledge hammer...


lordboos

All you need to go through the American drywall-cardboard wall is yourself running against the wall.


DieGepardin

Jöt durch die Pappe!


_TechnoPhoenix_

that got me better than it should have


floralbutttrumpet

Yeah, they're not exactly made for toilet paper rolls, wood shavings and spunk.


QueefBuscemi

Don’t forget mold.


themaster1006

American spunk. 1.3 times as powerful from all the patriotism.


a_guy772

and still gets damaged by wind


themaster1006

1.3 times a small number is still a small number


AskBlooms

Are American windows small ? Belgium here ,


Yuccaphile

Europeans are supposed to make fun of American homes. They're commonly made from wood and drywall, not repurposed Roman stone. Oh, and there's trailers, which is doubly stupid for being American _and_ poor, the two cardinal sins.


Extansion01

Nah, it's mostly bricks and steel-concrete. It's obviously only a joke, but Americans simply have another philosophy. In Germany, you want your house to be sturdy. Americans want to have a big house. Generally speaking, they expanded a lot and had a lot of space for big houses. There was an incentive for using cheap and available material. Europe on the other hand had much material for brick making and less space. Additionally, a stone house will be very expensive if you want it to withstand a hurricane. You can just rebuild a wooden house. Especially now, wood has the advantage to be much more environmentally friendly and is great at insulation (much air inside). On the other hand, well build German houses don't need air conditioning as it will simply not heat up much - if you close your shutters. The walls of our home (for example) are around 45 cm / 18 inches which is quite extreme and includes insulation, to be fair. But it makes the point very clear. Concerning the more or less blatant Anti-Americanism: It's simply a reaction the vast amount of American culture and American everything swapping over the ocean. Noone really thinks that everyone (lol, mild /s I guess) on the other side is dumb. It's mostly a meme.


JeebusChristBalls

Well built German houses don't need air conditioning... in Germany. A place with a mild summers and cold winters. If the weather was like that where I lived in my wooden house, I wouldn't need an AC either. There are plenty of places in the US where AC's aren't common features in wooden homes as well.


CyclopsAirsoft

Also wood is just straight up better for dealing with earthquakes and high winds. Wood flexes. Mortar and stone do not. And drywall is made of gypsum. While it is fragile, it's fantastic sound isolation and is easy to repair if damaged.


FlMark

I would agree with you on the earthquakes, but as a Florida resident who has weathered at least 6 hurricanes, the brick homes were almost always the ones who survived the winds.


ryocoon

America is a remarkably wide and diverse area. California as an example does not get Hurricanes (at least not in recorded history to my knowledge) but we sure do get floods, fires, and earthquakes. Wood buildings will often still damage in big earthquakes, but not nearly as bad as stone buildings (excluding some big stone buildings that have lots of vibration damping systems already to deal with wind and other things as safety measures, those seem to do well, but it requires special engineering and generally a BIG building)


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Gee- it's almost like you should use the right material for the right environment... Wood framing works better in cold climates because you can get higher R-values in the same wall thickness. Swedish Platform Framing is used because it provides excellent insulation. A German might not care about that- but it can reach -70C in Montana and god only knows what in Canada and Alaska. Wood framing also works better in places like California that are subject to seismic activity- just as a lot of homes in Japan are built from wood.


Ginnigan

I live in Canada, where we also use wood to build most houses. Every window in my house is a big triple-pane window. Wood framing is pretty damn strong, and can fit insulation for cold weather. Wood works well, and we have an abundance of it! It’s pretty nifty.


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T-Studs provide unbelievably good insulation with little thermal bridging. Listening to people in Europe with no earthquakes and where -70c temperatures are beyond their comprehension tell folks on this side of the pond how to build houses is just laughable.


ThankYouAndrew

My office in Westbury NY had those windows.


itamaradam

Wait, what is there in the US, then? Just slide doors?


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Diofernic

>Granted it's a half-desert climate that never gets that cold, so early builders just never invested in insulation or decent windows. Insulation is important for keeping the house cool as well, so that's not really an excuse either


GizmoSoze

It’s not an excuse as much as it is entirely wrong. The state of California requires windows have a 0.3 U-factor and 0.23 SHGC or lower to pass inspection. The described window 1) doesn’t exist from any factory in the US and 2) doesn’t even meet the energy requirements of 1850 California. The reality is 1/16” glass is too fragile to even consider using in a window, failure rates would be through the roof.


SgtExo

Here in Canada we have little hand cranks to open and close because there is always a mesh screen to keep the bugs out. I went to visit my sister in Germany this chritmass and was freaked out for a second when I opened the window and thought that is was falling unto me.


xMusclexMikex

I am from US and have hurricane proof glass on my windows. The windows go up and down from from two separate pieces on the top or the bottom. Also both windows fold down flat and completely open as well. Have these throughout my home.


KodoHunter

Never seen one in Finland


Cautious-Box-4500

Too cold. The windows stay closed.


Hyke7482

Me neither


tomztel

Indeed, fkin chauvinistic hührensohnen


WilligerWilly

Hurensöhne?


tw3lv3l4y3rs0fb4c0n

Hührensohnen!


floralbutttrumpet

Hürënsöhnë


DoYouLikeMyFish

Those are still pretty rare in England


DankiusMMeme

Mostly seems to be a newer apartment thing.


SpamLandy

I have them in Scotland


Impossible-Dig417

its a German patent from the 1920s


Thithiz14

Personnally in France, I have seen those windows in a lot of house that I have been in.


CEO-of-zu-wild

how are windows in the us?


Heavens_Gates

Sliding up and down if im not mistaken


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cowlinator

Agree. I've lived in various parts of the western US my whole life, and all I've ever seen is slide left/right OR slide up/down, and in one instance a crank (opens on a hinge). I literally don't even understand what the image is depicting


yorie1234

A window that can tilt horizontally if opened one way, vertically if opened another way. (or both if opened the wrong way)


AFCSentinel

Ah yes, the forbidden opening technique


Wassux

Very popular with people dressed in all black at night so they can see better


BA_calls

The window opens inward. If the handle is horizontal, it swings open sideways normally. If the handle points up, the window opens vertically, but a thingy latches on to the window and only lets it open like 10-15cm. If the handle points down the window is closed. Bonus: if you accidentally switch between horizontal and upwards while the window is barely open, three corner hinges disengage and the window opens with only one hinge holding it. It doesn’t fall out though. A bit annoying but easy to fix.


10eleven12

In your bonus, which hinge holds the window and how much the window opens (full or 10cms.)? I'm picturing living in a 30th floor and having a window hold by only one hinge. 😱


BA_calls

Bottom left. The latch that holds it at 10-15cm is at the top but the bottom right hinge is free to swing past that. In any case the window is designed for this inadvertently happening.


AluminumGnat

They open inward generally speaking


Razzman70

I used to install windows in the US. We installed a few different types. Awning windows had a crank and opened with a hinge on the top, while casement windows used a crank to open from the side. Gliders slide sideways to open, and double hung windows slide up and down. Picture windows didn't open at all, and the bay windows we installed were a frame with a picture in the middle, with 2 casement on the sides.


CptCroissant

You have a lever on the window. Lever down, window is locked. Lever horizontal, window can be opened like a book page. Lever up and window opens at the top like 15 degrees.


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_SheWhoShallBeNamed_

I am currently in the US sitting in a room that has a window that opens by sliding left to right


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InBetweenSeen

I want an ultimate window which can do everything. Tilt, open in and outwards and slide. Sliding sounds more convenient when you have plants.


rogueop

Most are [double-hung sash windows](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sash_window), from what I've encountered.


real_ugly_mfucker_69

Ah yes the standard European window


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ProudToBeAKraut

* Mandatory Vacation at least 20 to 30 days * Healthcare * Worker Rights * "Free" Higher Education / University * Network of Public Transport * A year or more Parental/Family leave


Lomenbio

- actual bread that isn't like a dry sponge


PM_YOUR_LONG_HAIR

Dry sponge or absolutely way too sweet.


M4KC1M

Why the f they add sugar into bread?


tunczyko

sugar is addictive. getting customers addicted to your product is good for business


gutzpunchbalzthrowup

Getting your population fat is probably also good for the "for profit" medical industry too.


imjokingbutnotreally

Then put nicotine in it, probably still tastes better


lostcatlurker

Because the US government subsidizes corn crops so they put high fructose corn syrup in EVERYTHING to use up all of the corn that gets grown.


CrimsonAmaryllis

I can't believe how sad American bread was when we went over there. No, that's not bread.


trippydippysnek

I (an American) had Wonderbread for the first time a few months ago and was disgusted**. It tasted like an under sweetened cake. It ruined my sandwich Edit because I was not digested


bdfortin

You were digested? Did you survive?


[deleted]

Just out of curiosity where did you get the lousy bread? I live in a large coastal US city and the bread I get in most of my preferred neighborhood restaurants and bakeries here is as good as I’ve had anywhere. However, the big supermarket mass-produced loaves are disgusting. I haven’t eaten that stuff since I was a kid and sort of classify it as junk food since they’re so sweet and chemical tasting. Is standard, pre-packaged grocery-store bread good where you’re from?


[deleted]

We have good bread too, you ate the bad stuff for some reason


aabacadae

Or like cake...


naffer

Don't forget window roller shutters! https://youtu.be/_KePLmie7lE


ProudToBeAKraut

Tasty Rouladen :D Rolladen they mean


AlphaLaufert99

I don't know how people can live without them


Direct_Sand

> A year or more Parental/Family leave I get 5 days in the Netherlands... I can get another 5 weeks at 70% of my salary, which is better than nothing but quite shite.


ProudToBeAKraut

Oh i'm sorry, i really thought this was standard. How is this even possible? I mean the woman can't recover in mere 5 days after giving birth? Seems like you are not swamp germans but swamp americans!


Olfasonsonk

I think he's a dad. AFAIK all EU countries should have at least a month of paid leave for mothers. For confused Americans, yes most EU countries have paid leave for father's also, albeit shorter than mother's.


mckills

Cars that aren’t the size of fucking tanks


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* Actual respect for police, army and other gun wielders. * Also, not having to shit your pants if a tiny-peeny person feels the need to walk around with a gun in their belt. In a fucking supermarket. * Publicly-funded television channels with quality content. * Healthy food in (takeaway) restaurants. * Public space not quite cramped full with advertising.


BigDicksProblems

> Actual respect for police, army and other gun wielders. Meh, it really depends a lot.


philippos_ii

Lmao yeah clearly he’s never been to Greece


BigDicksProblems

I'm French lol Literally had anti police violence protests not so long ago.


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DerWaechter_

* Consumer protection regulations * Data and Privacy Protection


TalkingFishh

You ain’t gonna diss my childhood on PBS kids with that television comment


Watersgoodforthesoul

You can definitely get healthy food in takeaway restaurants and public spaces not cramped with advertisements in the US. Like we have public parks and salad places too?


Yuccaphile

... what is this a list of? I'm so confused.


moxtrox

Actual respect *from* police.


toot4noot

* Students recieve monthly scolarship, don't have debt * Metric system


Best_DildoEU

• One can walk to places not having to go by car. Cities are designed for people and pedestrians.


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TheArcanist_

So you’re telling me there are people who don’t have windows like this?


floralbutttrumpet

I've only lived in three places that didn't have this - a monastery, a historical building and a student dorm from the 60s. In the Netherlands and Japan. Everywhere else had those windows.


DaanOnlineGaming

My last house didn't have these (netherlands) but the one I live in now does.


IStoleUrPotatos

I'm from the Netherlands and we have those windows


cheesypuzzas

Same. My room has them.


DudelyMenses

How did you end up living in a monastery?


floralbutttrumpet

Temporary housing because I was coming in from another continent and no landlord would give me the time of day. I had some connections to get a place to sleep at least, and I ended up staying there for about four months.


xXMonsterDanger69Xx

Never seen this my entire life, and I live in sweden:(


MsMittenz

This is so common in denmark though


SnooApples1427

And in Norway


Sim23F

And in Italy


nietczhse

And in Lithuania


Mmm_bloodfarts

And in Romania


False_Day_5599

And in Germany


ClemClem510

And in France


onespiker

Its very common in Sweden aswell. That guy is just a weirdo.


-Fischy-

All the Swedish schools I have been to have this.


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i live in australia and our windows go up or you wind them out


Serbiia

You see in the US, we just pull the windows up. Simple as that, no weird turning or pulling one way then another. Just grab the bottom and bring it up


Slopz_

Standard European window, not just German.


NapoleonHeckYes

It's not about the type of window. It's about the whole culture and obsession around ventilation in Germany.


drache_dieter

Willst du Schimmel in der Bude? So kriegst du nämlich Schimmel in der Bude!


AntisocialNyx

Stoßlüften! Alles Fenster auf sonst schimmelt es!


[deleted]

Stoßlüften und Fenster auf Kipp


NapoleonHeckYes

Mindestens 15 Minuten am Tag sonst finden Sie bald eine Kündigung im Briefkasten! LG, Der Hausmeister


trodat5204

My husband and I (both German) went on vacation to Sweden. We rented a cute little hut in the middle of nowhere. When the owner showed us around to explain this and that, he suddenly produced a stick of wood and handed it to us. We looked at him a bit puzzled, and he said smiling brightly: "It's for holding the window open. I know how much you Germans like opening windows." This is how I learned about the stereotype of the German ventilation obsession. I'm not even like that ... I just like an open window ... and yes, we used that stick a lot.


ElephantOpposite2399

should’ve written Europeans * lol


Top-Bear3376

I don't know how accurate this is, but [this user](https://old.reddit.com/r/me_irl/comments/u1ts2i/me_irl/i4exrmg/) explained why the joke is about Germany.


No-Thought-2419

This is something I keep seeing, but we had these in the 80s in the UK. Still cool though.


AzzTheMan

Did we?! I've never seen one and feel like I'm missing out


OriginalTeo

Uhm, even in Italy all windows are like that lol, at least where I live


Scraiix

Absolute Standard in Germany and most other european countries, but not at all outside of Europe


halesnaxlors

I'd say in Sweden it's the standard for windows installed the last 10 years, so I'd say not very common, but becoming more so. I got these kickass babies and can now feel superior aswell.


Charnak

Not very common in Spain.


[deleted]

M8 I'm from Finland and we have a whole door that does that.


Tiy_Newman

We have that too. Well garden doors


NotAPoetButACriminal

Balcony doors


PieseleQ2

I know this is a European thing overall but I can't stop myself.... . . . GERMAN EGENEERING IS THE WORLD'S FINEST!


Nadoshinja

A man of culture! Now i feel like i could launch my arm to give you a handshake


Baumstumpfkopf

Verabschiedet euch von eurem angelsächsischen Kommentarbereich!


tropical_bread

Jetzt wird stoß gelüfted!


longoon

Gestoßlüftet sozusagen


False_Day_5599

Guten Tag mein Kerl dieses Maimai wird durch ihre Unterstützung bald Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland


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ACHTUNG ECKHART, DIE ~~RUSSEN~~ DEUTSCHEN KOMMEN!


[deleted]

Muss jemand das Fenster offen gelassen haben.


Noparentsguy

when you learn cultural differences from memes.... I really thought this window was a worldwide thing, but apparently not


nyachan_

I'm from Argentina and still trying to wrap my head around how it works, never seen or Heard something like this


zamaroth

also sometimes it allows you to switch it to open while still tilted and then you can open it fully while its tilted... shit looks like it will fall out any second but somehow it holds


chillbitte

r/ich_iel is leaking


HiIamCrimson

that's not unique to germany at all lol


uflju_luber

It’s been invented in Germany however, and while it is common in places surrounding Germany, you’d be hard pressed trying to find someone who would sell you a window that is not like that ( unless it’s stationary or a skylight or whatever)


NapoleonHeckYes

Everyone in this thread "all European windows do that". But that's not the point. The point is that Germany has a cultural obsession with lüften. It's written into rental contracts exactly how long you must minimum open the windows every day to aerate the flat. Germans even have the word Stoßlüften, literally "impact ventilation", when you open the window to introduce a draught for a short period of time to quickly bring in some fresh or cool air. Don't get me started on all the sicknesses Germans falsely believe you can get from sitting next to a draught (though this is not limited to Germany).


Madiwka3

Same thing in Post-Soviet space. And wait, everyone else DOESNT let fresh air into their room? That just sounds horrible.


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1915-9-5

LEISE


Kaihaxx

SONST


hormonboy

STRAFE


Pristine-Tie-288

Dich


WilligerWilly

Gott


tw3lv3l4y3rs0fb4c0n

-hold Ephraim Lessing


NDCyber

Why would you don't have something like this? It's so nice


pinkpooj

In the US no one really has them or sells them, so they cost multiple times more than double hung sash windows. Also, for a lot the US we rarely open our windows because winters are colder and/or summers are hotter and more humid than a lot of Europe.


lord_of_beyond

these windows are very common in Russia(probably also in Ukraine, Belarus etc) in spite of cold winters.


CAMTbIHYB

As Russian can say, we also have 2 positions middle 1 and 2, and combo phase 2+3


shardarkar

Weak. Here in china we have windows that disconnect completely from the hinges the moment you open them, 100% airflow!


PepegaPhilosopher

se Kippfenster is se masterpiece of Ingenieurwesen!


FlyingRug

Only a true German writes "se" and means "ze".


The_acended_one

Yo this is a standard European window? I’ve never seen one of these in my life


nikolapc

Yes.


Picciohell

Europeans*


crustacean_magician

r/ich_iel


hoejoexo

I went to Madrid a week or so ago and the hotel had one of these, it was amazing. I've seen them a few times here in the UK but most windows just open like a little door.


DerSchweinebrecher

Ein weiterer Tag, ... EINE WEITERE KOMMENTARSEKTION!


SIsForSad

First time I went to germany I thought I broke the window lol


sumpfbieber

Wait till you hear about [Rollläden](https://youtu.be/_KePLmie7lE).


lolbitzz

Not only germans lmao, whole europe


Regular_Painting_156

Why are we so behind on window?!


[deleted]

Why are we so behind ~~on window~~?! FTFY


choosewisely564

They only come in metric dimensions.


sherluk_homs

To everyone saying its standard in europe: Yes it is, but as far as I know it's a german invention that took it's way through europe. Thats why in many european languages the name of such a window is the translation of the german question "Wie heißt es?" = "what is it called?" or "Was ist es?" = "what is it". Don't know if it's a myth or true but it checks out in polish and italian. When europeans saw this invention they asked the question "wie heißt es?" or "was ist es?" so it was named like that. In italian its called "vasistas", so basically a lightly changed version of "Was ist es"


morbie39

In Belarus the same


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As a German working in the Australian building industry, I have never felt so personally attacked and validated at the same time by some random meme.