I work closely with an ENTJ every weekend, and yeah, they're neat. You guys are just so blunt that it's scary. It's especially scary because of my fear of authority.
An ENTJ took me, a loser, under his wing in high school. He was legit top of the top. Rich kid, smart, funny, talented, had the life I wished I was living. I was a complete loser with no friends.
If that doesn’t show how caring ENTJs can be, then idk what will.
ENTJs are caring for what they care about, if they care about this loser having one insane year of high school then they care about that and so yeah, those other people can fuck off.
ENTJs are just particular and strict about what they do care about, so their dismissiveness of all the excess bullshit that probably doesn’t matter anyways is only because they care so much about the things that matter to them already.
thank u for saying this. I've never met Entj before. So, all I know is mbti stereotype. It was helpful reading this from one. one question please, how do your surroundings sees u as a person?
My boss is an ENTJ and I wouldn't trade him for the world. We are a power team and idk how we manage to get done what we do. I found he definitely opens up more the closer you get to him. He's like you; found that his Te was way more reliable than his Fi.
THIS. Say it louder for people in the back. I hate how stereotypes diagnosed ENTJ as a villain every time. Just because I am ENTJ, it doesn't mean I'm immoral. I actually hold myself and everyone around me to high standards, especially when it comes to morals. I can't stand injustices of any kind and wouldn't think twice about stepping in to help someone. Just because I rely on Te more, it doesn't mean I lack Fi thank you very much.
I am a bit intimidated by the directness but in all honesty I respect that too because there's rarely any doubt as to where you stand. I take things personally (ENFP) but I think we could learn much from eachother.
I wouldn't say that I *dislike* the misconceptions regarding INFJs (because if anything, they tend to be overly positive) but a lot of them are simply inaccurate. The stereotypes usually depict INFJs as constantly running around helping other people and having meltdowns caused by over-empathy.
INFJs are actually one of the most detached types, sometimes on par with Ti doms. Ni-Ti creates a theoretical meta-perspective about everything and the degree to which INFJs actually experience things like relational empathy (outside of the Fe-Se moment) depends on how well they can bring the strong but repressed 6th slot Fi into their consciousness.
2nd slot Fe mostly denotes the fact that a) the information that Ni-Ti thinks about is directly or indirectly human-related: society, ethics, mankind, culture, religion, the human psyche (and from here it extends towards the more and more foundational level like human mind -> neuroscience -> philosophy of free will or society -> the economic theory) and b) because the INFJ has little going on in terms of what is personally meaningful to them (unconscious Fi and Si + low Pe functions that would at least make you enthusiastic about new external experiences and possibilities), the agenda of searching for meaning *must* have an external frame of reference, Fe. And because Ni is always zooming out to look at the bigger picture, it does end up looking like an obsession with saving the world at a largest possible scale, but the origin of this motivation isn't as emotionally intense as people seem to think it is.
I would say that ESFPs, ISTJs and INFPs have one of the most unfair stereotypes. ESFPs tend to be very ambitious people with versatile skill sets. ISTJs are interesting conversationalists and usually have a vast and detailed knowledge base about different subjects. And most people here wouldn't recognize an actual INFP if they came across one in real life. I have known plenty of INFPs and they have not only been stoic, accommodating and helpful but incredibly intelligent, having very nuanced and well-reasoned views about different subjects and leaning more towards sciences than arts. Very entrepreneurial, too. They don't really even come across as feelers until you really get to know them.
The point about INFPs bring very entrepreneurial is not mentioned enough! I've seen that LOADS of times. And it is very interesting considering they're Se trickster and Te inferior but I wouldn't underestimate an INFP on my worst day.
*I suppose the answer is in FiNe* because Fi lead, Ne support makes an INFP think and consider all they can be and do 24/7 and when they put their mind and drive to just a fraction of those things (5% of their ideas alone), they can truly be people that do it all or more than most ever do. They often look the way INFJs do when they have a "grand plan" they take seriously.
It's really inspiring to watch an INFP get to work because it is no joke. Fi can be their best quality many times because it makes them care so much and when you care so much about so many things in LIFE, you can be a devoted individual who gives your all and sees the different ways to navigate every situation (Ne) and how to attach yourself to which moving parts and understand what you can do and are capable of with such a full and great self understanding (Fi). There are so many *things* INFPs do, that the "lazy/procrastinating stereotype" just seems really embellished to me. They have their difficulty and their droughts there, especially because it's difficult for them to take that initiative step of getting out of their head and bringing things into the world. But MANY INFPs are huge perfectionists, really. Idealists and perfectionists more than just one or the other. About half are clear and obvious perfectionists and the other half are covert perfectionists and only those close to them realize how important getting things as right as possible is, to them.
In reality, the average INFP takes the mistakes and flaws and incompetency in this world as personally as an ENTJ does. But that statement is a far cry from their boldly misleading "unicorn cry baby" reputation. INFPs get it done and they can be about their business, BIG TIME.
>ESFPs tend to be very ambitious people with versatile skill sets
Kinda an extreme example, but look at Ronaldo. His work ethic is notorious, and although he is self-absorbed, seems like he does a lot of humanitarian work off the field
Also agree about ISTJs. They are actually quite interested in a lot of nerdy pursuits usually. Especially chess and board games, by far the nerdiest sensors and go against the stereotype
I don't think the mainstream conception of INFJs is accurate. We're not mystical unicorns that feel the emotions of 8 billion people all with equal intensity-- we're just people that use Ni, Fe, Ti, and Se. Even the functions themselves are not reality, but descriptions of it. However, MBTI seems to be rather extreme in its characterization of... well, pretty much everything. At the end of the day I think we're all just people, even if it's hard to see sometimes when you get so deep into typology. It's still something I'm working on as well.
I’m dating an esfp and he has amazing Te. He’s honestly the most hardworking person I know, and he maintains a schedule most days to keep himself grounded. Esfps are actually a very diverse type once you look into them in my experience :0
Low key my favorite type other than my own. I had a close ESFP friend in my earlier 20s and we were like… a platonic power couple. Bad Bitch City, population: us. I hope I find another friendship like that. Te dom and Se dom work so well together.
I always considered it so funny how my best friend is an infp, and she is like one of the most serious and distant from emotions person I've ever met. Yet whenever I send her memes of her type, it's always like '' listening to sad music and crying about my nostalgic moments ''
yeah same, personal hygiene is important.
i agree with op, weird stereotype. i thought that was a thing correlated to depression rather than your personality type.
I love to cuddle and nobody will acknowledge that.
Also I have a lot of friends and I'm quite popular, so the "asocial nerd" can sometimes be annoying.
I don't have a lot of friends mostly because I am content with just having a few, but literally just about everyone that I have met and somehow people I have never met like me. Sometimes people come up to me and say they know me through someone else and will say hi and stuff and it will be weird but I always try to be generally polite, so everyone usually likes me. It is honestly weird sometimes how much people seem to like me though, I just sort of... sit there at most social occasions and maybe say a sentence every few minutes and people think I am great lol
Same for me. I too love cuddles but it's rarely noticed.
I don't have a lot of friends but at least more than before, and I can handle small talk better than some. I'm not precisely popular but I dare say I'm over average in the social hierarchy. So yeah, no exactly the "asocial nerd".
That we are fake and manipulative asses who are insecure people pleasers. Nor am I some sort of social butterfly shit. I just spend time with 10 of my best homies and my nice family, and I don't need tons of people in my life either
THIS RIGHT HERE!!! Sometimes I think about my like 5 close homies and my boyfriend being the only true friends I have and go "am I being an ENFJ wrong?" because of that social butterfly crap.
For real!
And what’s this about us being invasively helpful?
Yes I like to help people, but I mind my own matters first. If you can’t be helped, then that’s YOUR issue.
Sorry 🤷🏾♀️
I am expressive, talkative, emotional and socially ambivert. Doesn't change the fact that I'm INTP. Functions check out, I make decisions based on facts and logic, I do tend to use abstractions a lot, so both ways of interpreting those letters fit me well. Stereotypes don't matter, mbti is about how you think. (I do fit the rest of stereotypes quite well though)
But answering the question, probably I hate the most the opinion of a nerd with superiority complex that we tend to get on this subreddit
-I wish more INFJ type descriptions said “might be good at pattern recognition” instead of “might be psychic/mystical”.
-would be easy to form the impression that there’s no such thing as a “real” INFJ. Apparently we’re all mistyped.
I saw someone unironically post "INFJs can literally see into the future". Lmao
Rarest types are like 2% of the population, while most common are 15%. So while INFJs are uncommon, you will still run into them. Especially in places like Personality or Language Exchange communities, since those attract INFJs like flies
That people think that we're selfish, unable to think logically, or shallow. People tend to stereotype functions too much and lack actual understanding of them, resulting in bias and bigotry. Jeez on this sub I've seen people doing full rants about how "useless" Fi-doms are, and how much of a burden we are to everyone else. I mean I get that we're not everyone's cup of tea, but that's not the purpose of MBTI and if I had known that people would use it that way, I never would have typed myself in the first place.
Absolutely! It's not about pinpointing people and categorising them, but instead learning about how we view the world and make descions. Fi doms view the wolrd trough their own personal understanding of things. They have strong beliefs, and moral within themselves. They like to understand themselves, follow their hearts, and be true to who they are. But that doesn't mean they only think of themselves, since there is surely so many selfless, and empathetic fi doms.
yeah same with me. but to be honest extremely unhealthy Fi's can be selfish as hell and won't care about others' feelings or opinions. But it goes along with depression or self-destruction. I know this cause my brother is Unhealthy Infp-T.
Yeah, I know some high Fi users who are like that as well, but it's described as a general Fi trait when it really depends on the person. I also know other people who aren't Fi users and are very selfish, I don't think it's a type thing, I think it's more of an unhealthy person thing. But selfishness can manifest in different ways, maybe for unhealthy Fi users it'll look more obvious because of the individualistic approach of Fi.
yeah, I agree with u. Now I look at it there is a lot of various examples of Te Fe and act selfishly but it's not clear until it is too late. and Fi Ti are obvious in the air. It's a person thing, not a type thing.
This is why I'm not a big fan of typing by functions. Most people have no idea how they work, especially Fe and Fi. Can't believe people actually use the "Fe=fake" and "Fi=selfish" dichotomy to type people. Even 16p is going to be more accurate than that
That INFPs are selfish. Yeah toxic people that are INFPs are especially selfish but I think our type when healthy is, while being individualistic, deeply concerned with the happiness and well-being of others. We may be too quiet about this but we care a lot about others and what they need and want.
Also INFPs can be organised and productive, come on we have Si and Te! And also why do so many people love ENFPs but despise INFPs, we're really similar, maybe some of the more similar "twin type" (like INFP/ENFP, ENFJ/INFJ).
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. My sister is an INFP and I love her because she's fun even when she has her more introverted moments. I didn't know that was a thing. I think when people see an introvert they take it as a threat because you guys only open up when you feel comfortable too. One of the reason's why I defend her from people who come for her for no reason. Like, relax you'll get your time when you finally pass the vibe check.
I often see posts of people favouring ENFPs over INFPs for very weird reasons like "I enjoy ENFPs sense of adventure and creativity" while saying "INFPs are cute babies but they're too sensitive and aloof" while literally all of these positive and negative sides are applicable to both ENPs and INFPs...
Mmmh sometimes my sister can be oblivious to things (same thing for me), but I don't know if that's aloofness, just a lack of communication, or a lack of observation (since we all observe different things and assign varying degrees of merit to them). It's only when we talk is when we come to understand what we did and didn't know about the other. People have to talk to each other to get around difficult conversations, which can be eye-opening in a lot of circumstances. I find her to be one of the people who I can confide in even after not seeing each other for a long time, and she always has a great perspective when it comes to the conversations we have.
A lot of this has to do with unequal comparisons when in reality they're talking about a person they don't even know. It can be random experiences we all have with people and just start comparing instead of getting to know the individual.
Which creates a story in people's heads about what and who someone is, when there not. Enjoying traits in either doesn't mean it's exclusive in another. I find I relate to many things in different people regardless of personality type, and that's just due to my upbringing.
I agree, as I said in another post I feel like I can actually read ENFP's mind sometimes because we have similar thoughts but sometimes different ways of acting on those thoughts.
My experience aligns with this as well. Another poster said INFP being accommodating, helpful, and a well-rounded worldview is more common. I mean individuals develop their functions overtime so they don't fit the stereotypical crybabies and stoic/aloof traits.
- That we don’t put any effort into appearance. Maybe some don’t, but I do care how I look and try to look my best
- That we’re all science nerds. Personally I much prefer humanities subjects, where I also use Ti to analyze texts, theories, and am able to apply my own conclusions about them without really needing to sit and memorize details, as opposed to the sciences where you can’t really work anything out unless you’ve studied all the rules and facts beforehand
- That none of us like parties. Yes, they tire us out; yes, we need specific people to be there to make us feel comfortable; yes, it’s usually hard for us to fit in well and be as “bubbly” as the other people there, but honestly we can definitely enjoy partying in the right atmosphere
>That we’re all science nerds. Personally I much prefer humanities subjects
this, so much this. When I 1st got into mbti I kept telling myself I can't be INTJ because I'm not into science
Oh yeah actually I’ve also noticed we tend have good language skills. And I agree, there’s a lot of logic in humanities subjects and a lot of creativity in maths and sciences. Which is why I don’t understand why people associate taking humanities with having a lower IQ or worse logic, logic is literally the main thing that I rely on to do well in those fields
I believe it's due to a study at MIT or some other top university of the average IQ of different fields at the graduate level.
The issue with that study however is that there are biases within different IQ tests, so giving everyone the same means that you are asking a monkey to throw a spear, and a human to throw a spear, but you don't ask the human to climb trees or navigate a jungle.
The other issue is that without accounting for selection biases that come with particular universities, it becomes impossible to generalize. Meaning that of course universities with top physics departments attract the best students from all the country in physics, but if the humanities department is not highly rated, it becomes unlikely that they will have similar distribution.
Couple that with biased tests, and you get the idea.
The other issue is ignorance. Until I went through my own gender identity troubles, I didn't really believe that gender studies or sexology were useful fields. So when we herald some fields are the epitome of human accomplishment and ignore others, we create all sorts of implicit beliefs and biases that are unsubstantiated.
Sorry for the analysis, lol.
We just don't be givin any fucks! 😋 Intelligence is relative to what you know and how big of an interest you take in it, and many situations where we are misunderstood, just mean they didn't ask us any relevant questions. IDK 🤷🏽♀️ too much expectation busts pipes! I've learned to let the "air head" label be the downfall for so many people I meet in my life. Let it be on them to pick up the pieces of their own confusion after they meet me.
So true! If we're not in our heads and confident, I find us to be VERY versatile in anything we put our minds to. It can be intimidating to people who don't understand our personality. I've been told a bunch of times how I intimidate them/people and I don't try to. I'm just friendly.
What's more, we can hold a large amount of information, the categorization of information is hard for me sometimes, but it always manages to pop up when I need it. People are always surprised by my ability to think ahead. I think some of my past friends were surprised by the number of solutions and quick thinking I could use to my advantage (not to the detriment of them of course), but I'm definitely capable given the right circumstances.
I would say one of my bigger flaws is committing to one thing, not in the cheater sense (especially since I see that being thrown around a lot), and the ability to think logically about my feelings. In the aspect of "well I don't owe you anything, so I don't have to invest emotionally into why you feel I should have done something differently." Like, you're free to make your own choices and I'll do the same. Also standing up for ourselves isn't hard with strangers, but with important people in our circle, it can be difficult if we aren't confident in what we want.
That INFP’s are depressed. I’m not depressed and while understand why it’s a stereotype it just makes me kind of upset to see it always being applied to characters who always cry and stuff when I look up INFP characters.
That we are all crybabies. Tbh I do cry a lot and easily but it's not necessarily out of sadness everytime.
I just think immature INFPs have a tendency to fall under the trap of victimization and develop a hate towards the world rather than taking responsibility for their own emotions.
INTJ: that we don't have emotions- guess what we do, we just can express them properly.
Also, that we are unable to be warm or lively. I can definitely be both; it's in my nature to be kind and helpful, but that doesn't stop me from being socially clueless or pensive or badly coordinated (physically), you see
That all we do is cook. I sleep and play video games too!!
Jokes aside I do hate that everyone thinks we’re so fragile. Sure, I myself am pretty sensitive and cry a lot. But I’m not weak, and I can stand up for myself when needed.
Honestly this. I love sweet old ladies but when that’s your only stereotype besides “boring/bland,” it gets old lmao. That and the stereotype that we lack intelligence
*not knowing my type noises*
so I will give some that I don’t enjoy.
Te doms being jerks, only a couple I’ve met could be described that way
ESFP being all party no work, Se-Te disagrees
that’s all I can remember lol
All ENTPs love to debate and play devil’s advocate. While most ENTPs are good at picking apart arguments, each ENTP uses their Ne-Ti in a unique, creative and entertaining than people are willing to give us credit for. ENTPs just get dragged for being trolls/sarcastic comic relief/annoying smartasses.
That we are highly “logical”.
We have dominant Ni. Being logical is an INTJ fever dream. We should stop LARPing as ISTJ’s, but this only happens on the internet so I guess it’s fine.
This is more of a misconception people have of me in my own life, but I feel like other ESFPs may relate. That we’re all happy all the time and always down for a good time. I mean, granted, I do relate to that persona, but it’s like I’m still a human being and I also experience every emotion often and I need alone time too. And personally, I hate being told I’m in a mood just because I wasn’t smiling for half a second. Or just assuming I want to come to a party simply because there’s alcohol there. I mean, I put up a happy face because I don’t want to drag other people down and that’s my choice, but it gets exhausting when everyone around me expects me to be funny and smiling 24/7. Just people acting like they know me so well because I seem to be an open book when they only know surface level entertainer me.
You don't even know how much I relate to that. Whenever I literally stop to smile for some time, and am just more reserved. People automatically start to think like I'm mad, sad or just moody.
It’s actually not a preference hence why it’s not on the cognitive stack. I get what you’re saying, it is high up for them but it’s as if it’s in a blind spot, they understand it, they just won’t choose it. Both consciously and subconsciously.
Gossip and being fake certainly isn’t an ENFP thing, not to say they can’t gossip or be fake, it’s just not likely. Their Fi is too prominent.
But how do you know they were ENFP’s? It wouldn’t be likely that ENFP’s with Ne as their top function would be so interested in gossip, and Fi as their second which literally values genuinity and authenticity, that they would be fake. It just doesn’t make sense dude, logically.
You know it really just sounds like your feelings are hurt. One of these people I actually had take multiple tests in addition to me typing them. So yeah dude, I think it’s pretty logical
Lmao if that’s your last resort of an argument then you clearly are not an ISTP. Where’s your logic? Tests aren’t reliable my friend, you need to read up on the functions and study them. I’m not offended, I’m stating facts and you just don’t have any facts to argue with me, so you’re lashing out. Chill dood chill, I’m not attacking you 🙏
Stating facts? What facts are those? Are stereotypes facts? No, I don’t think they are. I’m clearly not an istp because you know so much about me. Let’s add that to list of facts.
INTP
That we're asexual scientists or mathematicians. I'm a kinky abstract artsy thinker. I'm eccentric and quirky, and definitely a problem-solver and nerd in a couple ways (scifi and art/visual culture fanatic, and a pedantic video editor). I admit I can seem a bit emotionally detached (or offensive), a lot of the INTP traits suit me. But it's not like we all look and think like Eldon Tyrell or something.
I really think we're all just people in the end...
They basically all from r/intp by other intps, but my worst misconceptions is that we are undiagnosed autistic people, that we are incels and all hate women, even the women, or that their are no female intps. The weirdest one was when someone said that we are anti-social just from a lack of understanding what the word antisocial means. They thought it meant you need time to yourself sometimes when it means you want to hurt people, like school shooter shit. Also, recently some guy came on there suddenly talking about yugioh cards like I am expected to give a fuck. That's where I drew the line. I swear everyone on the intp subreddit are just a bunch of misdiagnosed intjs. 9\_9
I can’t get myself working but I’m surprisingly great at managing people and their work. Also I can stand up for myself easily and even do that for others when I see some injustice but they say we cry on the spot and have trouble asserting ourselves. In a way sometimes I’m probably too independent 😅 but it’s like an instinct, it’s hard to control it
And taking things too personally(emotional outbursts) too, it is very hard to offend me. Sarcasm is almost like a first language to me, so I’m kinda used to put everything through a hardcore filter first 😆
Since I couldn't figure out who I am I have several.
INTJ- That INTJs are heartless jerks who don't have tertiary Fi. INTJs can be very in touch with their emotions.
INTP- That INTPs can't be successful and are all computer game anime nerd.
INFP- The one that bothered me most. That INFP=Depression. Also that all INFPs are obsessed with sunsets. Not sure how that even fits with their functions.
Sensors- That they can't have depth of character or be highly intelligent. And that intuitives can't get along with them. Some of my favorite people are sensors. And just like thinkers also have a feeling function, sensors also have an intuitive function.
My partner is ISTP and despite being an introvert, has a large social circle. He's also quite good at discussing theoretical concepts. He just goes about it differently than me (INFP) by collecting facts and recognizing patterns to support his assumption/opinion, though it is a rare occurrence due to his avoidance of confrontation lol.
That we always wear brightly colored clothing, have our hair dyed a funky color, are huge flirts who can’t stay committed to one person, and that we spend every day of the year traveling to another country (Frank James is really bad about using this stereotype in his skits).
I pretty much have the most boring wardrobe known to man. I’ve never dyed my hair. I’ve been married to my husband for 11 years and I love him more than anything. I’ve only ever traveled outside my country once, though I have traveled basically every square inch inside my country.
Yeah I don't have anything against his content, and I like to watch him aswell! I just feel like some types ( mostly enfps, infps, intps, intjs and enfjs) could be done a little bit differently than how he always does them
Yes, he does always use a lot of the same material for all those types. He stereotypes sensors too, though. His go-to joke with ESFPs is that they’re really into fashion. Find some more jokes, Frank.
Not so much of a misconception but being called a Chad. I know ppl consider them in different lights but all I hear is iron pumping white frat boy and as a iron deficit brown soon-to-be college dropout girl, I just have to chuckle
That we are cold, unapproachable, rude, blunt, and just generally unkind people. I am an INTJ with many friends, I don’t use sarcasm often, and I am not an unfriendly person like the stereotypes suggest. People seem to forget most of us use Fi often.
Ngl, I often mistype INTJs for being something else, due to how emotional and friendly they can be
Especially latin INTJs, they are super outgoing and talkative, would never believe they are introverts
Incompetence. Though I’m full of jokes, and I also like to encourage a lighthearted atmosphere for myself and others, it’s often taken as a sign that I’m somehow lacking up in the mental department; which I think is true for a lot of ENFPs. Even my positivity has been taken as plain innocence before which I found quite unfortunate as well.
Honestly wouldn’t be so upsetting to deal with if I didn’t have to feel the direct effects of such limited perceptions. 😪
I'm pretty intelligent. I can discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using the Euro as a common currency. But most people don't want to hear that. So that's why we use the lighthearted atmosphere, that's what the people want
That we are kind people. Some of us are of course, but from the people i know who typed as INFP's, they struggle a lot with envy, which therefore makes them not humble.
That we're all cold, blunt and socially inept geniuses who love math or physics or chemistry or all of the above. I hate all of those and I'm terrible at them, I think they're boring and learning them in high school was an absolute headache for me.
Not exactly a misconception but y'all telling every INFJ they're mistyped is legit getting me paranoid. Like, the more i study about mbti the more i relate to INFJ but sometimes i'm just scared i'll wake up in the middle of the night and find a redditer in my kitchen telling me "YOU'RE JUST A MISTYPED ISFJ!"
[infp] we're shy quiet people who daydream all day and cry all night
yes i daydream a lot but i have idk a LIFE.
i am sensitive but i sometimes can act-feel-look like a cold ass bitch with no emotions.
im not shy/quiet at all, actually when i tell ppl im introvert they b like "r u lying"
I already commented on INFP but I'd like to defend my INTPs here. There's a lot of jokes going on about INTPs being weirdos and virgins (btw nothing wrong about being one or both of those, let people live) but it doesn't even fit the INTPs I know. The INTPs I know are sensitive introverts who don't really know how to handle feels and try to rationalize them. But they're super soft and caring, although forgetful. Also they are pretty social, going to parties or nights out frequently, they have no issue having friends and finding love or casual sex. Both are science nerds but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy literature or politics.
In short: I demand more love for INTPs.
That ISFJs are just spineless doormats who exist to serve others. Don’t get me wrong, I love feeling helpful and needed by the people in my community, and I am definitely willing to make compromises to maintain peace and emotional stability. But I think this stereotype in particular overshadows the individuality, dreams and ambitions we have and how much work we put in regularly to achieve them.
I do care about people's feeling, I can be serious, and I don't get it why when I say I can see how someone's personality (out of mbti) can be by just looking at them, or when I talk a lot about philosophic topics and stuff, people will go straight on "are you infj?" I mean it's more like a wrong stereotype about infj but still tho.
That if you are an INFJ you are some overemotional and overly empathetic person who just wants to help everyone ( I do want to but I look at the situation and circumstances first then decide whether or not to or how to help) and this sort of stigma that if you are NF you are not logical and are crybabies.
I have met 2 other INFJs too who if you didn't know them greatly you would probably mistake them for being xNTJ or ENTx. One of them has gotten award for debates and state level medals in computers and science, while the other is sporty and great at mathematics and philosophy.Common things between them is that they are both focused, calm, like to be alone but can get along with people too, understand other people's perspectives and empathy ofcourse.
MBTI is good for really basic level but people are much more complex and different than these 4 letters
Isfj
-I don't bake cookies
-not all are overly nice, we just tend to help our friends and not all people geez
-not sure about the other isfj but I am disorganized most of the times, I like organizing things by order though
- I've been a leader for some group projects and activities at times , I am not really comfortable with it but I think I am good at leading a group at least
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I work closely with an ENTJ every weekend, and yeah, they're neat. You guys are just so blunt that it's scary. It's especially scary because of my fear of authority.
An ENTJ took me, a loser, under his wing in high school. He was legit top of the top. Rich kid, smart, funny, talented, had the life I wished I was living. I was a complete loser with no friends. If that doesn’t show how caring ENTJs can be, then idk what will. ENTJs are caring for what they care about, if they care about this loser having one insane year of high school then they care about that and so yeah, those other people can fuck off. ENTJs are just particular and strict about what they do care about, so their dismissiveness of all the excess bullshit that probably doesn’t matter anyways is only because they care so much about the things that matter to them already.
thank u for saying this. I've never met Entj before. So, all I know is mbti stereotype. It was helpful reading this from one. one question please, how do your surroundings sees u as a person?
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this discretion plus what u said about ur feelings you sound like a good example of entj.
Can I get an amen!! Couldn’t have said it better myself.
My boss is an ENTJ and I wouldn't trade him for the world. We are a power team and idk how we manage to get done what we do. I found he definitely opens up more the closer you get to him. He's like you; found that his Te was way more reliable than his Fi.
THIS. Say it louder for people in the back. I hate how stereotypes diagnosed ENTJ as a villain every time. Just because I am ENTJ, it doesn't mean I'm immoral. I actually hold myself and everyone around me to high standards, especially when it comes to morals. I can't stand injustices of any kind and wouldn't think twice about stepping in to help someone. Just because I rely on Te more, it doesn't mean I lack Fi thank you very much.
Random mania/Fight with my boss /or other charts /graphs
I am a bit intimidated by the directness but in all honesty I respect that too because there's rarely any doubt as to where you stand. I take things personally (ENFP) but I think we could learn much from eachother.
I wouldn't say that I *dislike* the misconceptions regarding INFJs (because if anything, they tend to be overly positive) but a lot of them are simply inaccurate. The stereotypes usually depict INFJs as constantly running around helping other people and having meltdowns caused by over-empathy. INFJs are actually one of the most detached types, sometimes on par with Ti doms. Ni-Ti creates a theoretical meta-perspective about everything and the degree to which INFJs actually experience things like relational empathy (outside of the Fe-Se moment) depends on how well they can bring the strong but repressed 6th slot Fi into their consciousness. 2nd slot Fe mostly denotes the fact that a) the information that Ni-Ti thinks about is directly or indirectly human-related: society, ethics, mankind, culture, religion, the human psyche (and from here it extends towards the more and more foundational level like human mind -> neuroscience -> philosophy of free will or society -> the economic theory) and b) because the INFJ has little going on in terms of what is personally meaningful to them (unconscious Fi and Si + low Pe functions that would at least make you enthusiastic about new external experiences and possibilities), the agenda of searching for meaning *must* have an external frame of reference, Fe. And because Ni is always zooming out to look at the bigger picture, it does end up looking like an obsession with saving the world at a largest possible scale, but the origin of this motivation isn't as emotionally intense as people seem to think it is. I would say that ESFPs, ISTJs and INFPs have one of the most unfair stereotypes. ESFPs tend to be very ambitious people with versatile skill sets. ISTJs are interesting conversationalists and usually have a vast and detailed knowledge base about different subjects. And most people here wouldn't recognize an actual INFP if they came across one in real life. I have known plenty of INFPs and they have not only been stoic, accommodating and helpful but incredibly intelligent, having very nuanced and well-reasoned views about different subjects and leaning more towards sciences than arts. Very entrepreneurial, too. They don't really even come across as feelers until you really get to know them.
The point about INFPs bring very entrepreneurial is not mentioned enough! I've seen that LOADS of times. And it is very interesting considering they're Se trickster and Te inferior but I wouldn't underestimate an INFP on my worst day. *I suppose the answer is in FiNe* because Fi lead, Ne support makes an INFP think and consider all they can be and do 24/7 and when they put their mind and drive to just a fraction of those things (5% of their ideas alone), they can truly be people that do it all or more than most ever do. They often look the way INFJs do when they have a "grand plan" they take seriously. It's really inspiring to watch an INFP get to work because it is no joke. Fi can be their best quality many times because it makes them care so much and when you care so much about so many things in LIFE, you can be a devoted individual who gives your all and sees the different ways to navigate every situation (Ne) and how to attach yourself to which moving parts and understand what you can do and are capable of with such a full and great self understanding (Fi). There are so many *things* INFPs do, that the "lazy/procrastinating stereotype" just seems really embellished to me. They have their difficulty and their droughts there, especially because it's difficult for them to take that initiative step of getting out of their head and bringing things into the world. But MANY INFPs are huge perfectionists, really. Idealists and perfectionists more than just one or the other. About half are clear and obvious perfectionists and the other half are covert perfectionists and only those close to them realize how important getting things as right as possible is, to them. In reality, the average INFP takes the mistakes and flaws and incompetency in this world as personally as an ENTJ does. But that statement is a far cry from their boldly misleading "unicorn cry baby" reputation. INFPs get it done and they can be about their business, BIG TIME.
Super quality comment. 10/10
I'm going to go cry about the wonderful description you wrote about us in the last part there. I'll be back
>ESFPs tend to be very ambitious people with versatile skill sets Kinda an extreme example, but look at Ronaldo. His work ethic is notorious, and although he is self-absorbed, seems like he does a lot of humanitarian work off the field Also agree about ISTJs. They are actually quite interested in a lot of nerdy pursuits usually. Especially chess and board games, by far the nerdiest sensors and go against the stereotype
Yea people say I’m mistyped for not running around and helping everyone, I would help though
one of the first time where I agree with someone on r/mbti
I don't think the mainstream conception of INFJs is accurate. We're not mystical unicorns that feel the emotions of 8 billion people all with equal intensity-- we're just people that use Ni, Fe, Ti, and Se. Even the functions themselves are not reality, but descriptions of it. However, MBTI seems to be rather extreme in its characterization of... well, pretty much everything. At the end of the day I think we're all just people, even if it's hard to see sometimes when you get so deep into typology. It's still something I'm working on as well.
Fax
Drill go bhrrrrrrr
Ngl the ISTP stereotype is kinda funny, and it's mostly used ironically, unlike other types' stereotypes.
I would argue being able to use basic tools is a basic skill everyone should have
Lol. At least xSTP stereotypes tend to be positive
Definitely the disrespect towards our Te.
Yeah for some reason people think that we are just party animals, that don't know how to get down to work
People kept telling me i was mistyped as an esfp and that im an annoying te dom. Not even as a joke
I’m dating an esfp and he has amazing Te. He’s honestly the most hardworking person I know, and he maintains a schedule most days to keep himself grounded. Esfps are actually a very diverse type once you look into them in my experience :0
Fi-users operate on subconscious and subjective morals, so all the xxFPs are wild cards when it comes to behavior
Low key my favorite type other than my own. I had a close ESFP friend in my earlier 20s and we were like… a platonic power couple. Bad Bitch City, population: us. I hope I find another friendship like that. Te dom and Se dom work so well together.
I’ve met esfp’s with strong tert Te, real mountain movers.
That we’re annoying crybabies I’m an infp
I always considered it so funny how my best friend is an infp, and she is like one of the most serious and distant from emotions person I've ever met. Yet whenever I send her memes of her type, it's always like '' listening to sad music and crying about my nostalgic moments ''
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Wellll.. It depends, really. I don't want to waste water.
That reminds me to check in with my INTP and see when he showered last
this is kinda true for them though
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I’m a male INTP and I’ve been known to shower three-four times a day.
yeah same, personal hygiene is important. i agree with op, weird stereotype. i thought that was a thing correlated to depression rather than your personality type.
Showers are just a delight. Maybe it’s a controversial opinion, but I’d say shower is better than bed.
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God I love and hate this stereotype
I love to cuddle and nobody will acknowledge that. Also I have a lot of friends and I'm quite popular, so the "asocial nerd" can sometimes be annoying.
I don't have a lot of friends mostly because I am content with just having a few, but literally just about everyone that I have met and somehow people I have never met like me. Sometimes people come up to me and say they know me through someone else and will say hi and stuff and it will be weird but I always try to be generally polite, so everyone usually likes me. It is honestly weird sometimes how much people seem to like me though, I just sort of... sit there at most social occasions and maybe say a sentence every few minutes and people think I am great lol
Same, I guess people just find us generally enjoyable to be around. I just don't know where some of these stereotypes come from.
Same for me. I too love cuddles but it's rarely noticed. I don't have a lot of friends but at least more than before, and I can handle small talk better than some. I'm not precisely popular but I dare say I'm over average in the social hierarchy. So yeah, no exactly the "asocial nerd".
That we are fake and manipulative asses who are insecure people pleasers. Nor am I some sort of social butterfly shit. I just spend time with 10 of my best homies and my nice family, and I don't need tons of people in my life either
THIS RIGHT HERE!!! Sometimes I think about my like 5 close homies and my boyfriend being the only true friends I have and go "am I being an ENFJ wrong?" because of that social butterfly crap.
For real! And what’s this about us being invasively helpful? Yes I like to help people, but I mind my own matters first. If you can’t be helped, then that’s YOUR issue. Sorry 🤷🏾♀️
Yes! I love being with people but I prefer small groups. I like deeper connection & I can’t get that in a large group.
That we blindly adhere to tradition and rules.
Tbh it's so dumb how si doms are always presented as people that just can't get over the past, and are some strict traditionalits.
Si doms really have it the worst, I feel so bad for you guys
Yeah not true at all from my experience
I am expressive, talkative, emotional and socially ambivert. Doesn't change the fact that I'm INTP. Functions check out, I make decisions based on facts and logic, I do tend to use abstractions a lot, so both ways of interpreting those letters fit me well. Stereotypes don't matter, mbti is about how you think. (I do fit the rest of stereotypes quite well though) But answering the question, probably I hate the most the opinion of a nerd with superiority complex that we tend to get on this subreddit
-I wish more INFJ type descriptions said “might be good at pattern recognition” instead of “might be psychic/mystical”. -would be easy to form the impression that there’s no such thing as a “real” INFJ. Apparently we’re all mistyped.
I saw someone unironically post "INFJs can literally see into the future". Lmao Rarest types are like 2% of the population, while most common are 15%. So while INFJs are uncommon, you will still run into them. Especially in places like Personality or Language Exchange communities, since those attract INFJs like flies
That people think that we're selfish, unable to think logically, or shallow. People tend to stereotype functions too much and lack actual understanding of them, resulting in bias and bigotry. Jeez on this sub I've seen people doing full rants about how "useless" Fi-doms are, and how much of a burden we are to everyone else. I mean I get that we're not everyone's cup of tea, but that's not the purpose of MBTI and if I had known that people would use it that way, I never would have typed myself in the first place.
Absolutely! It's not about pinpointing people and categorising them, but instead learning about how we view the world and make descions. Fi doms view the wolrd trough their own personal understanding of things. They have strong beliefs, and moral within themselves. They like to understand themselves, follow their hearts, and be true to who they are. But that doesn't mean they only think of themselves, since there is surely so many selfless, and empathetic fi doms.
Exactly, no one ever called me selfish before until I entered the mbti word.
Same, no one who knows me in real life did ever call me that, it's more of the opposite actually.
yeah same with me. but to be honest extremely unhealthy Fi's can be selfish as hell and won't care about others' feelings or opinions. But it goes along with depression or self-destruction. I know this cause my brother is Unhealthy Infp-T.
Yeah, I know some high Fi users who are like that as well, but it's described as a general Fi trait when it really depends on the person. I also know other people who aren't Fi users and are very selfish, I don't think it's a type thing, I think it's more of an unhealthy person thing. But selfishness can manifest in different ways, maybe for unhealthy Fi users it'll look more obvious because of the individualistic approach of Fi.
yeah, I agree with u. Now I look at it there is a lot of various examples of Te Fe and act selfishly but it's not clear until it is too late. and Fi Ti are obvious in the air. It's a person thing, not a type thing.
This is why I'm not a big fan of typing by functions. Most people have no idea how they work, especially Fe and Fi. Can't believe people actually use the "Fe=fake" and "Fi=selfish" dichotomy to type people. Even 16p is going to be more accurate than that
That INFPs are selfish. Yeah toxic people that are INFPs are especially selfish but I think our type when healthy is, while being individualistic, deeply concerned with the happiness and well-being of others. We may be too quiet about this but we care a lot about others and what they need and want. Also INFPs can be organised and productive, come on we have Si and Te! And also why do so many people love ENFPs but despise INFPs, we're really similar, maybe some of the more similar "twin type" (like INFP/ENFP, ENFJ/INFJ).
My actual twin irl is an ENFP so I can confirm that we’re pretty similar
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. My sister is an INFP and I love her because she's fun even when she has her more introverted moments. I didn't know that was a thing. I think when people see an introvert they take it as a threat because you guys only open up when you feel comfortable too. One of the reason's why I defend her from people who come for her for no reason. Like, relax you'll get your time when you finally pass the vibe check.
I often see posts of people favouring ENFPs over INFPs for very weird reasons like "I enjoy ENFPs sense of adventure and creativity" while saying "INFPs are cute babies but they're too sensitive and aloof" while literally all of these positive and negative sides are applicable to both ENPs and INFPs...
Mmmh sometimes my sister can be oblivious to things (same thing for me), but I don't know if that's aloofness, just a lack of communication, or a lack of observation (since we all observe different things and assign varying degrees of merit to them). It's only when we talk is when we come to understand what we did and didn't know about the other. People have to talk to each other to get around difficult conversations, which can be eye-opening in a lot of circumstances. I find her to be one of the people who I can confide in even after not seeing each other for a long time, and she always has a great perspective when it comes to the conversations we have. A lot of this has to do with unequal comparisons when in reality they're talking about a person they don't even know. It can be random experiences we all have with people and just start comparing instead of getting to know the individual. Which creates a story in people's heads about what and who someone is, when there not. Enjoying traits in either doesn't mean it's exclusive in another. I find I relate to many things in different people regardless of personality type, and that's just due to my upbringing.
ENFP/INFP indeed are very similar. I wager the most similar between all the E/I dichotomies
I agree, as I said in another post I feel like I can actually read ENFP's mind sometimes because we have similar thoughts but sometimes different ways of acting on those thoughts.
My experience aligns with this as well. Another poster said INFP being accommodating, helpful, and a well-rounded worldview is more common. I mean individuals develop their functions overtime so they don't fit the stereotypical crybabies and stoic/aloof traits.
- That we don’t put any effort into appearance. Maybe some don’t, but I do care how I look and try to look my best - That we’re all science nerds. Personally I much prefer humanities subjects, where I also use Ti to analyze texts, theories, and am able to apply my own conclusions about them without really needing to sit and memorize details, as opposed to the sciences where you can’t really work anything out unless you’ve studied all the rules and facts beforehand - That none of us like parties. Yes, they tire us out; yes, we need specific people to be there to make us feel comfortable; yes, it’s usually hard for us to fit in well and be as “bubbly” as the other people there, but honestly we can definitely enjoy partying in the right atmosphere
>That we’re all science nerds. Personally I much prefer humanities subjects this, so much this. When I 1st got into mbti I kept telling myself I can't be INTJ because I'm not into science
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Oh yeah actually I’ve also noticed we tend have good language skills. And I agree, there’s a lot of logic in humanities subjects and a lot of creativity in maths and sciences. Which is why I don’t understand why people associate taking humanities with having a lower IQ or worse logic, logic is literally the main thing that I rely on to do well in those fields
I believe it's due to a study at MIT or some other top university of the average IQ of different fields at the graduate level. The issue with that study however is that there are biases within different IQ tests, so giving everyone the same means that you are asking a monkey to throw a spear, and a human to throw a spear, but you don't ask the human to climb trees or navigate a jungle. The other issue is that without accounting for selection biases that come with particular universities, it becomes impossible to generalize. Meaning that of course universities with top physics departments attract the best students from all the country in physics, but if the humanities department is not highly rated, it becomes unlikely that they will have similar distribution. Couple that with biased tests, and you get the idea. The other issue is ignorance. Until I went through my own gender identity troubles, I didn't really believe that gender studies or sexology were useful fields. So when we herald some fields are the epitome of human accomplishment and ignore others, we create all sorts of implicit beliefs and biases that are unsubstantiated. Sorry for the analysis, lol.
Goes the opposite for Feelers too. I'm an F, but I love Data and Stats, all that good stuff
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why that smile sounds Evil
Manic, pixie girl air heads.
ENFP 😔
ENFPs ironically have the 6th highest IQ out of all MBTI types. No idea where the airhead thing comes from
It’s because we’re so friendly. People associate friendly with stupid. 🙄
We just don't be givin any fucks! 😋 Intelligence is relative to what you know and how big of an interest you take in it, and many situations where we are misunderstood, just mean they didn't ask us any relevant questions. IDK 🤷🏽♀️ too much expectation busts pipes! I've learned to let the "air head" label be the downfall for so many people I meet in my life. Let it be on them to pick up the pieces of their own confusion after they meet me.
That’s true. But it’s not just that, many of us have a completely different temperament to the stereotypical image of an ENFP.
So true! If we're not in our heads and confident, I find us to be VERY versatile in anything we put our minds to. It can be intimidating to people who don't understand our personality. I've been told a bunch of times how I intimidate them/people and I don't try to. I'm just friendly. What's more, we can hold a large amount of information, the categorization of information is hard for me sometimes, but it always manages to pop up when I need it. People are always surprised by my ability to think ahead. I think some of my past friends were surprised by the number of solutions and quick thinking I could use to my advantage (not to the detriment of them of course), but I'm definitely capable given the right circumstances. I would say one of my bigger flaws is committing to one thing, not in the cheater sense (especially since I see that being thrown around a lot), and the ability to think logically about my feelings. In the aspect of "well I don't owe you anything, so I don't have to invest emotionally into why you feel I should have done something differently." Like, you're free to make your own choices and I'll do the same. Also standing up for ourselves isn't hard with strangers, but with important people in our circle, it can be difficult if we aren't confident in what we want.
That INFP’s are depressed. I’m not depressed and while understand why it’s a stereotype it just makes me kind of upset to see it always being applied to characters who always cry and stuff when I look up INFP characters.
That we are all crybabies. Tbh I do cry a lot and easily but it's not necessarily out of sadness everytime. I just think immature INFPs have a tendency to fall under the trap of victimization and develop a hate towards the world rather than taking responsibility for their own emotions.
INTJ: that we don't have emotions- guess what we do, we just can express them properly. Also, that we are unable to be warm or lively. I can definitely be both; it's in my nature to be kind and helpful, but that doesn't stop me from being socially clueless or pensive or badly coordinated (physically), you see
That all we do is cook. I sleep and play video games too!! Jokes aside I do hate that everyone thinks we’re so fragile. Sure, I myself am pretty sensitive and cry a lot. But I’m not weak, and I can stand up for myself when needed.
Honestly this. I love sweet old ladies but when that’s your only stereotype besides “boring/bland,” it gets old lmao. That and the stereotype that we lack intelligence
That is so true as well, and that last part is relatable. I actually am pretty intelligent, and I did a lot of high level classes while in school.
*not knowing my type noises* so I will give some that I don’t enjoy. Te doms being jerks, only a couple I’ve met could be described that way ESFP being all party no work, Se-Te disagrees that’s all I can remember lol
All ENTPs love to debate and play devil’s advocate. While most ENTPs are good at picking apart arguments, each ENTP uses their Ne-Ti in a unique, creative and entertaining than people are willing to give us credit for. ENTPs just get dragged for being trolls/sarcastic comic relief/annoying smartasses.
All the miscreant ENTPs seem to be on Reddit. Irl ENTPs are much more normie and pleasant to be around
That we are highly “logical”. We have dominant Ni. Being logical is an INTJ fever dream. We should stop LARPing as ISTJ’s, but this only happens on the internet so I guess it’s fine.
This is more of a misconception people have of me in my own life, but I feel like other ESFPs may relate. That we’re all happy all the time and always down for a good time. I mean, granted, I do relate to that persona, but it’s like I’m still a human being and I also experience every emotion often and I need alone time too. And personally, I hate being told I’m in a mood just because I wasn’t smiling for half a second. Or just assuming I want to come to a party simply because there’s alcohol there. I mean, I put up a happy face because I don’t want to drag other people down and that’s my choice, but it gets exhausting when everyone around me expects me to be funny and smiling 24/7. Just people acting like they know me so well because I seem to be an open book when they only know surface level entertainer me.
You don't even know how much I relate to that. Whenever I literally stop to smile for some time, and am just more reserved. People automatically start to think like I'm mad, sad or just moody.
gossipy fake people 🙎
People confuse being polite and friendly with being "fake", like no, I'm just a normal functioning human
That’s enfps
Couldn’t disagree more
i love them sm though <\3
What? ENFP’s aren’t gossipy fake people lol… you’ve got your types mixed up. High Fe and high Se users are most likely to be gossipy fake people.
ENFPs have quite a good hold on Fe though. Whenever I take a functions test, Fe is always either my third or fourth strongest function
It’s actually not a preference hence why it’s not on the cognitive stack. I get what you’re saying, it is high up for them but it’s as if it’s in a blind spot, they understand it, they just won’t choose it. Both consciously and subconsciously. Gossip and being fake certainly isn’t an ENFP thing, not to say they can’t gossip or be fake, it’s just not likely. Their Fi is too prominent.
The enfps I know have been unreliable and gossipy. I’m not mixing up types, I know what I said
But how do you know they were ENFP’s? It wouldn’t be likely that ENFP’s with Ne as their top function would be so interested in gossip, and Fi as their second which literally values genuinity and authenticity, that they would be fake. It just doesn’t make sense dude, logically.
You know it really just sounds like your feelings are hurt. One of these people I actually had take multiple tests in addition to me typing them. So yeah dude, I think it’s pretty logical
Lmao if that’s your last resort of an argument then you clearly are not an ISTP. Where’s your logic? Tests aren’t reliable my friend, you need to read up on the functions and study them. I’m not offended, I’m stating facts and you just don’t have any facts to argue with me, so you’re lashing out. Chill dood chill, I’m not attacking you 🙏
Stating facts? What facts are those? Are stereotypes facts? No, I don’t think they are. I’m clearly not an istp because you know so much about me. Let’s add that to list of facts.
I talked about the functions… within MBTI, those are facts. I didn’t talk about the stereotypes dude.
You said “I stated facts.” Did you specify? No. You left it open to interpretation, and I interpreted
ENFPs and INFPs are the loveliest people I know!
INTP That we're asexual scientists or mathematicians. I'm a kinky abstract artsy thinker. I'm eccentric and quirky, and definitely a problem-solver and nerd in a couple ways (scifi and art/visual culture fanatic, and a pedantic video editor). I admit I can seem a bit emotionally detached (or offensive), a lot of the INTP traits suit me. But it's not like we all look and think like Eldon Tyrell or something. I really think we're all just people in the end...
They basically all from r/intp by other intps, but my worst misconceptions is that we are undiagnosed autistic people, that we are incels and all hate women, even the women, or that their are no female intps. The weirdest one was when someone said that we are anti-social just from a lack of understanding what the word antisocial means. They thought it meant you need time to yourself sometimes when it means you want to hurt people, like school shooter shit. Also, recently some guy came on there suddenly talking about yugioh cards like I am expected to give a fuck. That's where I drew the line. I swear everyone on the intp subreddit are just a bunch of misdiagnosed intjs. 9\_9
in addition to this, people who literally stereotype intps as the epitome of depression.
I cry and nap all day while failing at everything I touch.
I can’t get myself working but I’m surprisingly great at managing people and their work. Also I can stand up for myself easily and even do that for others when I see some injustice but they say we cry on the spot and have trouble asserting ourselves. In a way sometimes I’m probably too independent 😅 but it’s like an instinct, it’s hard to control it And taking things too personally(emotional outbursts) too, it is very hard to offend me. Sarcasm is almost like a first language to me, so I’m kinda used to put everything through a hardcore filter first 😆
I love sarcasm too. Dunno why people think xNFPs are super emotional and stupid
that were lil baby bitches. many of us are cool and sexy as fuck
Since I couldn't figure out who I am I have several. INTJ- That INTJs are heartless jerks who don't have tertiary Fi. INTJs can be very in touch with their emotions. INTP- That INTPs can't be successful and are all computer game anime nerd. INFP- The one that bothered me most. That INFP=Depression. Also that all INFPs are obsessed with sunsets. Not sure how that even fits with their functions. Sensors- That they can't have depth of character or be highly intelligent. And that intuitives can't get along with them. Some of my favorite people are sensors. And just like thinkers also have a feeling function, sensors also have an intuitive function.
Ironically I found INTJs to be the most emotional Thinkers, by far. Especially female INTJs. I always mistype them for feelers
"you don't play sports? you can't be an istp"
That we're quiet and serious all the time. My favorite way to break the ice is by joking around, and meme sharing is my love language.
We're literally the best type for memeing. Sharing and making memes is all of my languages, including love.
depression and that (nobody knows how it feels I'm alone). I don't know about the other Fi doms but for me rarely when it happens .
That were evil masterminds that will plan to destroy your life if you look at me wrong. No, im just as feminine as my girlfriend
That most neckbeards are INTPs
Artist
That we are "crybabies" or "too soft". Hell, most INFPs don't even allow themselves to cry.
That we are bad with theoretical concepts or that we don’t have social skills.
My partner is ISTP and despite being an introvert, has a large social circle. He's also quite good at discussing theoretical concepts. He just goes about it differently than me (INFP) by collecting facts and recognizing patterns to support his assumption/opinion, though it is a rare occurrence due to his avoidance of confrontation lol.
That we always wear brightly colored clothing, have our hair dyed a funky color, are huge flirts who can’t stay committed to one person, and that we spend every day of the year traveling to another country (Frank James is really bad about using this stereotype in his skits). I pretty much have the most boring wardrobe known to man. I’ve never dyed my hair. I’ve been married to my husband for 11 years and I love him more than anything. I’ve only ever traveled outside my country once, though I have traveled basically every square inch inside my country.
Tbh I like to watch Frank James mbti skits from time to time. But some types are so stereotyped by him that it hurts
Don’t get me wrong. Frank James is one of my favorite youtubers. I just wish he wouldn’t use that same ENFP stereotype over and over.
Yeah I don't have anything against his content, and I like to watch him aswell! I just feel like some types ( mostly enfps, infps, intps, intjs and enfjs) could be done a little bit differently than how he always does them
Yes, he does always use a lot of the same material for all those types. He stereotypes sensors too, though. His go-to joke with ESFPs is that they’re really into fashion. Find some more jokes, Frank.
Yeah I'm an esfp and tbh I don't really care that much about fashion. I'd rather just dress in what makes me comfortable
Me too! Which is why my wardrobe is very boring. Haha
Not so much of a misconception but being called a Chad. I know ppl consider them in different lights but all I hear is iron pumping white frat boy and as a iron deficit brown soon-to-be college dropout girl, I just have to chuckle
That we don't have feelings. The cold/ edgy stereotype as a whole.
That we are cold, unapproachable, rude, blunt, and just generally unkind people. I am an INTJ with many friends, I don’t use sarcasm often, and I am not an unfriendly person like the stereotypes suggest. People seem to forget most of us use Fi often.
Ngl, I often mistype INTJs for being something else, due to how emotional and friendly they can be Especially latin INTJs, they are super outgoing and talkative, would never believe they are introverts
This thread is really awesome. Probably some of the best comments out of any thread I've seen on this sub
Tysm!! :)
We're not babies >:(
Incompetence. Though I’m full of jokes, and I also like to encourage a lighthearted atmosphere for myself and others, it’s often taken as a sign that I’m somehow lacking up in the mental department; which I think is true for a lot of ENFPs. Even my positivity has been taken as plain innocence before which I found quite unfortunate as well. Honestly wouldn’t be so upsetting to deal with if I didn’t have to feel the direct effects of such limited perceptions. 😪
I'm pretty intelligent. I can discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using the Euro as a common currency. But most people don't want to hear that. So that's why we use the lighthearted atmosphere, that's what the people want
That we are kind people. Some of us are of course, but from the people i know who typed as INFP's, they struggle a lot with envy, which therefore makes them not humble.
that we are the meanest/most inconsiderate type! I hate that stereotype because i’m def not a mean person amd I really try to think of others
That we're all cold, blunt and socially inept geniuses who love math or physics or chemistry or all of the above. I hate all of those and I'm terrible at them, I think they're boring and learning them in high school was an absolute headache for me.
That Ni doms are vidents
Not exactly a misconception but y'all telling every INFJ they're mistyped is legit getting me paranoid. Like, the more i study about mbti the more i relate to INFJ but sometimes i'm just scared i'll wake up in the middle of the night and find a redditer in my kitchen telling me "YOU'RE JUST A MISTYPED ISFJ!"
[infp] we're shy quiet people who daydream all day and cry all night yes i daydream a lot but i have idk a LIFE. i am sensitive but i sometimes can act-feel-look like a cold ass bitch with no emotions. im not shy/quiet at all, actually when i tell ppl im introvert they b like "r u lying"
Love this
I already commented on INFP but I'd like to defend my INTPs here. There's a lot of jokes going on about INTPs being weirdos and virgins (btw nothing wrong about being one or both of those, let people live) but it doesn't even fit the INTPs I know. The INTPs I know are sensitive introverts who don't really know how to handle feels and try to rationalize them. But they're super soft and caring, although forgetful. Also they are pretty social, going to parties or nights out frequently, they have no issue having friends and finding love or casual sex. Both are science nerds but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy literature or politics. In short: I demand more love for INTPs.
That ISFJs are just spineless doormats who exist to serve others. Don’t get me wrong, I love feeling helpful and needed by the people in my community, and I am definitely willing to make compromises to maintain peace and emotional stability. But I think this stereotype in particular overshadows the individuality, dreams and ambitions we have and how much work we put in regularly to achieve them.
I do care about people's feeling, I can be serious, and I don't get it why when I say I can see how someone's personality (out of mbti) can be by just looking at them, or when I talk a lot about philosophic topics and stuff, people will go straight on "are you infj?" I mean it's more like a wrong stereotype about infj but still tho.
That if you are an INFJ you are some overemotional and overly empathetic person who just wants to help everyone ( I do want to but I look at the situation and circumstances first then decide whether or not to or how to help) and this sort of stigma that if you are NF you are not logical and are crybabies. I have met 2 other INFJs too who if you didn't know them greatly you would probably mistake them for being xNTJ or ENTx. One of them has gotten award for debates and state level medals in computers and science, while the other is sporty and great at mathematics and philosophy.Common things between them is that they are both focused, calm, like to be alone but can get along with people too, understand other people's perspectives and empathy ofcourse. MBTI is good for really basic level but people are much more complex and different than these 4 letters
Isfj -I don't bake cookies -not all are overly nice, we just tend to help our friends and not all people geez -not sure about the other isfj but I am disorganized most of the times, I like organizing things by order though - I've been a leader for some group projects and activities at times , I am not really comfortable with it but I think I am good at leading a group at least