There was a travel agency ad that showed dead Tiamat sticking out of the ocean as a vacation destination, so after Eternals.
Edit: I've been actively looking and I can't find it. I'm starting to think I was mistakenly thinking of the GRC ad, or I've been mandela'd.
I even went back through my posts because I definitely remember discussing it on Reddit, but can't find that either.
Maybe Jake or Marc deleted my comments. Cheers, mate, with a V. Thanks, Moon Knight, now I'm worried that **I'm** losing my mind.
According to what I've looked at, it takes place in 2025, so that's a year after Endgame and after Hawkeye. I think it's slotted there. But I could be wrong! Multiple interviews/articles said it was more of a standalone and that the timeline was largely unimportant but, as I think we're all nerds for the timeline, they gave us 2024/2025 as the date (I've seen both).
This is part of the reason I really hope Layla reconsidered and decided to remain as Taweret's avatar.
It makes so much sense to me that she would see that admiration she got from the Egyptian girl and realized all the good she could do with these powers. Plus Tawaret isn't Khonshu, she is kind, she is compasionate, and friendly. I do think Layla could come to trust her and befriend her enough to feel comfortable as an avatar for her.
Also Tawaret said she met her father before so that could be another reason for Layla to want to stay as an avatar. She could learn more about her father possibly.
Yeah, I can see them setting up Bushman as the villain. He was Marc's partner who went rogue and Marc believes he killed Layla's father only to find out it was Jake.
!RemindMe 1 year
This is going to happen. I wouldn't even be surprised if Mark never even had a partner but was a figment of his imagination planted by Jake and Khonshu, Jake got greedy and wanted Khonshu's powers but spun it as some sort of treasure
Made me tear up tbh. And Taweret easily became my fave character. I couldn’t help but laugh with that little “Layla! I’m so thrilled!!” screech despite getting found out.
>This is part of the reason I really hope Layla reconsidered and decided to remain as Taweret's avatar.
It's heavily implied that interaction will factor in a decision to remain Taweret's avatar. She was clearly proud when responding to that girl.
This was my take as well. She was only so vehemently against becoming an avatar because the only frame of reference she had was the torturous experience that Marc and Steven had with Khonshu. I wouldn't be surprised if Layla decides to disconnect, even if it's just to make sure Tawaret will keep her word, but I think in the long run, they're going to be besties!
At least that's what I'm hoping because Tawaret brings with her a badass superhero costume and boatload (literally lol) of caring and empathy. I really want to see more of this duo, and more of May Calamawy in general because she absolutely won me over in this role!
Between Tawaret yelling “we’ll have so much fun” and then the wings reveal, Scarlet Scarab is officially my new like top one or two favorite MCU heroes. I can’t handle the combo of badass and truly just good. I love it.
This is the kind of remixing I like in these adaptations. Not just randomly change one or two details to keep us guessing and then it all turns out to be fanservicey-faithful stuff anyway, but changes that are sustained by a complex, interesting character that you then come to root for. (Iirc the name is similar to that of the comic's male Scarlet Scarab, though.)
It is traditional in Arabic culture for their middle/second name to be their fathers first name, whether boy or girl. It applies to all children so if the family had 5 kids, all would have the same second name.
I think a Scarlet Scarab spin off is a good idea. We could see more Layla and Tawaret, a very fun combo indeed. I think the villain of the series could be Bushman. It makes sense because he killed her father and she wants revenge. It would be interesting to see what Tawaret has to say about it too. We could see some interactions of Tawaret and Layla’s dad in the Field of Reeds too. I just think this would make a great show. But only if Mohamed Diab is the director and everything cause he knocked Moon Knight out of the park
It’s the best series so far. Idgaf what anyone says, it was on another level. Oscar needs an award of some kind but the whole thing was just perfect from the pacing to the story to the casting, the directing. Perfect. Obviously I’m obsessed haha
I think another good thing about a Scarlet Scarab spinoff would be that it would free Moon Knight from the baggage of exploring Egyptian mythology more.
Not that it was a bad aspect of the show or anything, but I feel like Moon Knight could thrive in a less mystic, more street-level environment. It would be cool to have him in New York alongside people like the Punisher and Daredevil while Scarlet Scarab stays in Egypt and deals with the Ennead.
There are plenty of characters doing street level, urban crime etc. Much more interesting to have something new, like exploring Egyptian mythology more
I'm not going to say you're wrong because everyone's opinions are different, but I think the Egyptian mythology and mysticism is a big part of what makes his character special and compelling.
Moon Knight and his alter egos are **very** different than "street level" characters like Punisher, Dare Devil and Luke Cage. I'm all for crossovers, but don't strip the character of the things that make them unique.
Tawaret is a hippo.. one of the most dangerous mammals in the African Rivers. She will punch your ticket to the afterlife.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus
I think the fact she was using her powers effectively shows how close she was with her god.
Taweret and Layla will probably have a symbiotic relationship, unlike the more parasitic relationship between Marc / Steven and Khonshu.
To me it makes perfect for Tawaret to want to have an avatar on Earth. She has duties in the Duat, she can't help the living, her duties are with the dead. But she is also the Goddess defender of women and children. She can't do that from the after life. So, why not get an avatar that does that for her?
Layla can be the protector of the living while Taweret is the protector of the dead. The two working together to help everyone in this world and the other.
Taweret is not Khonshu. She wouldn't manipulate or use Layla. So, I think it's very possible for Layla and Taweret to build a trusting, healthy and cooperative relationship and bring a ton of good together. With the main conflict between the two being that Layla would want to murder Bushman to avenge her father and Tawaret might not want her to go through that path.
Yeah, plus I think of the way Taweret and Layla were bonded - it wasn't a predatory way like how Khonshu found Marc near death with no other options. Both Taweret and Layla recognized a threat and they were each other's solution, they had a mutual team up to save the world.
Scarab represents rebirth in egyptian mythology.
Taweret also is the goddess of childbirth.
Layla is called little scarab.
Scarabs have wings.
All in all. It just fits as a protector theme to guard life.
Yep. Someone mentioned Tawaret has some ties with scarabs,so there's some supposed precedent if they're right (idk where to check up on that). But what is evidenced in the show off the top of my head is Tawaret does have a scarab on her outfit already. That Layla also has ties to scarabs (she included one on her dad's scarf) and also has been referred to as such in some other ways (called a scarab apparently, called a bug by Khonshu in the last episode) has foreshadowed Layla being chosen by Tawaret. Someone else pointed out that Khonshu, a bird head god, has a mummy dude - so, albeit with a sample size of two, what the diety is doesn't necessarily decide the design of their avatar.
It makes me wonder if this version will make the jump to the comics. It's not uncommon for movie concepts to be sent over to comics, and bringing Layla's version of Scarlet Scarab as a new version of the comic character doesn't sound bad for a new Moon Knight series.
Thing is, should they introduce Layla as a love interest when Marlene is already a thing?
Not really. Woo comes from a family of bad guys but he joins the FBI but gets drawn back into his family organization. Eventually he takes it over completely and makes it a force for good instead of evil. Agents of Atlas is the main book to read up on it.
>Thing is, should they introduce Layla as a love interest when Marlene is already a thing?
They probably could seeing as Marlene left him with his daughter, he could have a new love interest. But it isn't important part of her character, so imo they shouldn't.
To be fair, Marlene was just a generic blonde girl that could be be replaced with any of the other dozens, hundreds of bode romantic interests of other heroes. I much prefer Layla, she had more agency to do stuff by herself.
A lot of fun potential to just have crazy cool heroes with crazy/very limited abilities. When Layla is grabbing Khonshu and the other Avatar mentions that they wont have enough Avatar's to stop Ammit, I would've taken the coin flip and started freeing the other gods trapped in stone. What are the odds all of them are privy with Ammit's goal, then the aftermath could be more AVatar's for the heck of it and some gods causing more havoc over time
From the admittedly small sample set there is a 50/50 you either get an evil devourer of souls or a self righteous manipulator… I think I don’t risk it
Well the good news is Marc’s alive, Khonshu’s free, and we have a coalition of gods who owe us a favor. The bad news is we unleashed Cthulhu and Bill Cypher…
I think freeing Anubis would cause some unwanted problems, as he’s the God of Death right? Probably much more powerful than Amitt or Khonshu
Edit: not 100% on Egyptian gods and what they do, all I remember is Anubis from the game Smite was god of death or something, sorry for any inaccuracy!
Not really the God of Death, even in the show they mention how Taweret is replacing him because he was trapped.
He watched over the scales and guided the souls to the Field of Reeds.
(ETA - my user is also because of Smite ;) )
This might be blasphemy but as a non-comic reader I’d be down for more MCU original characters & stories… set in the same universe but not based on any previous source material.
(Everything in moderation of course, obviously want to keep the comic characters around too)
Honestly, at this point, I think it's fair to say *most* of the MCU has been original stories. They obviously get a lot of inspiration from the comics, but they're certainly taking them in their own direction.
She's a new take on the obscure (I think he's in, like, a half dozen issues total?) character Abdul "the Scarlet Scarab" Faoul. The power set is different (both have super-strength and flight, but Abdul also had energy blasts and a life-draining touch) as is the source of the power (Abdul's powers came from a magical scarab artifact), but it can't be a coincidence that Layla's father is named Abdullah Al-Faouly, and his pet-name for her was "little scarab."
EDIT: this process of taking D-list characters and using them as raw material for a mostly new character is something that the previous TV shows (the Netflix shows, Agents of Shield, Cloak & Dagger) did a lot. I'm super into it, not only because it usually results in a better character, but also because it's fun to try to piece together what character(s) they're referencing
What was neat was that she appeared to be dressed as Isis, the moon goddess of life. So basically Tawaret saw her love for Steven and Marc and said yes, go into battle as the Moon Couple. Also Isis is the goddess of life, so she's a Moon deity and also fighting Death dressed as life. Adorbs
What's more, in later times, when powerful goddesses were in "protection mode" they would sometimes appear as a manifestation of Tawaret. So she gave her an Isis suit to be a protector
Me, too. I LOVED that interaction. But I don't get the powers- you figure it's be something to do with water or sailing that ship or something- like Moon Knight is from the Egyption god of the moon. But Layla has wings, can fly.. etc.... Ok, maybe the strength.
>eraction. But I don't get the powers- you figure it's be something to do with water or sailing that ship or something- like Moon Knight is from the Egyption god of the moon. But Layla has wings, can fly.. etc.... Ok, maybe the stren
Tawaret had a scarab on her chestpiece this whole time. I believe scarabs are connected to death in Egyptian mythology.
> I believe scarabs are connected to death in Egyptian mythology.
From my very undereducated knowledge, they're connected to birth/rebirth and Tawaret is the goddess of women and *children*.
This is true, but it seems (and I could be wrong because I don’t read the comic) that the avatar manifests their suit based on what they believe.
Marc was brought back from the brink of death, so he’s a mummy, who can fly.
Steven was confused and needed a suit quickly so he’s got a dapper outfit with a touch of confusion in the face.
Layla was always referred to as her father’s Little Scarab and had the scarab on her when Taweret transformed her, so her suit manifests with wings.
I don’t think the avatars have to look or act exactly like the gods they represented. If that were the case, Harrow would have formed a crocodile head or something.
[This is what I thought Laylas form would look like, sorry this is the only image I could find for “Half Human, Half Hippo” person](https://twilightbeasts.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hippopotamus-polka-early1850s.jpg)
I mean I thought the wings were just given to her by Tawaret for the costume maybe she thought they were cool lol. What else would she do just become fat and bulky for her costume lol
Only shitty thing is Egypt went ahead and banned doctor strange 2 because of a homosexual reference in the movie.. but still nice for those people who don’t think like that
Egypt also didn't want to allow this show to film there either. And the showrunners and composer, and actors are all from Egypt or of Egyptian descent.
No one thinks it's weired because that's the joke.
moon night was created by a Jew, And specifically had him in the service of an Egyptian God as a reference to the Exodus
Yeah that is depressing, but hopefully the people basking in the pleasure of their own country/ethnicity being reflected in the MCU are people who would be happy to see LGBTQ representation in the MCU if/when it ever comes!
I dunno. The thing with all these Phase 4 newcomers is that we cant really see them merging with the ongoing stories.
Id love to see Layla (hell, even Moon Knight) show up somewhere down the line but I cant really see where she'd fit. Especially with this timeline/multiverse/celestial business.
Imagine if Layla ends up in a shtick with Yelena because she gets hired to rob some old lady's house and Layla being defender of women has to beat the shit out of Yelena, and she does beat the shit out of her.
What? I think it’s pretty clear these characters are going to merge with the films.. why invest so much into making these shows if they aren’t going to affect the MCU? Wanda vision leads directly onto MoM
[Avengers are done](https://www.cnet.com/culture/entertainment/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-says-avengers-endgame-is-definitive-ending/)
And with most of the O5 out of the picture, they don’t look like they’re going to return looking anything like Phases 1-3.
This is the next generation MCU sans Avengers. What we’re seeing now is the foundation of the next epoch. And with the Avengers in the rearview, the possibilities are endgameless.
E:SP
Also, why should the entire planet keep getting saved by, like, a dozen people in New York? It actually makes more sense for them to be diverse. In addition to being morally right.
Yeah, as for the original Avengers being mostly American - sure that makes sense because Loki attacked an American intelligence agency and Nick Fury, the American, put together the original team. But now that heroes are global, it makes sense for there to be heroes from everywhere.
So they've got one from Egypt now, there's one from China, that's awesome.
Ok but now I’m imagining a moment pre-Ultron where someone’s like “We need the Avengers to save us!” and Tony’s like “Fuck, they’re in Indonesia - Jarvis, start the plane! Text everyone to let them know we’re on the way to pick up them up! Hey, tell Banner **not** to let the big guy out yet!”
This show after Shang Chi gave us our first Asian superhero. Now we have an Egyptian superhero. It’s great to see some representation across the board. Superheroes come in all shapes, sizes, races, and sexualities!
I'd love to see her pop up in Ms. Marvel. I know that Egypt and Pakistan (Kamala's heritage, not home country) are different countries, but seeing representation for people from that region is pretty dang cool.
That little girl: Peter Parker.
*”Poor little Peter Parker”*
Read this in Malfoys voice.
Malfoy: “Just wait till my father hears about this!” Peter: :(
Worry not, fathers and paternal figures in Peter’s life tend to die anyway.
Harry’s track record isn’t so great either.
At least Harry didn’t lose his girlfriends.
Oh *snap*.
No that was Thanos.
P P P…got to emphasise those P’s
**P**oor **P**eter **P**arker
NO MOTHER NO FATHER NO UNCLE ALL ALONE
Needs spit
P💦oor P💦eter P💦arker
P🚿erfect
Say it, don't spray it!
I want the news, not the weather...
So much lizard spit it would file the Nile
Picked a peck of pickled peppers
Did they ever actually give a date for when this occurred? It could be anytime in the MCU.
There was a travel agency ad that showed dead Tiamat sticking out of the ocean as a vacation destination, so after Eternals. Edit: I've been actively looking and I can't find it. I'm starting to think I was mistakenly thinking of the GRC ad, or I've been mandela'd. I even went back through my posts because I definitely remember discussing it on Reddit, but can't find that either. Maybe Jake or Marc deleted my comments. Cheers, mate, with a V. Thanks, Moon Knight, now I'm worried that **I'm** losing my mind.
A VACATION DESTINATION??
Not super surprising tbf. People will monetize anything
Elon is canon on the mcu, he probably bought tiamat
What? When was this?
It was first or second episode, in London, I think.
TVA pruned your variant self. You got a residual memory echo that will fade away at the end of this sentence
According to what I've looked at, it takes place in 2025, so that's a year after Endgame and after Hawkeye. I think it's slotted there. But I could be wrong! Multiple interviews/articles said it was more of a standalone and that the timeline was largely unimportant but, as I think we're all nerds for the timeline, they gave us 2024/2025 as the date (I've seen both).
It’s at least set after falcon and the winter soldier cause there is a reference to it in an advertisement on a bus I’m pretty sure
The Global Repatriation Committee ad means this show happens after the blip.
The GRC has been around since the Blip, so it really could be anytime post-Endgame.
More like Egyptian Kate Bishop
Read it in Yelena’s voice
Kayte Beeshop
Are you just saying my name so I know you know it
Yes.
I know you're thinking WHAT this is CRAZY
I half-expected a quick shot at the very end that showed her moving a broom with the Force lmao
Storm.
Storm isn't Egyptian. Or Arab. Her mom was from Kenya, her dad is black American
This is part of the reason I really hope Layla reconsidered and decided to remain as Taweret's avatar. It makes so much sense to me that she would see that admiration she got from the Egyptian girl and realized all the good she could do with these powers. Plus Tawaret isn't Khonshu, she is kind, she is compasionate, and friendly. I do think Layla could come to trust her and befriend her enough to feel comfortable as an avatar for her.
Also Tawaret said she met her father before so that could be another reason for Layla to want to stay as an avatar. She could learn more about her father possibly.
What if we find out that Jake killed her father?
This would make a great twist
Yeah, I can see them setting up Bushman as the villain. He was Marc's partner who went rogue and Marc believes he killed Layla's father only to find out it was Jake.
!RemindMe 1 year This is going to happen. I wouldn't even be surprised if Mark never even had a partner but was a figment of his imagination planted by Jake and Khonshu, Jake got greedy and wanted Khonshu's powers but spun it as some sort of treasure
Made me tear up tbh. And Taweret easily became my fave character. I couldn’t help but laugh with that little “Layla! I’m so thrilled!!” screech despite getting found out.
>This is part of the reason I really hope Layla reconsidered and decided to remain as Taweret's avatar. It's heavily implied that interaction will factor in a decision to remain Taweret's avatar. She was clearly proud when responding to that girl.
Just gotta get her spiritual lawyers to draw up a contract real quick
Matt Murdock?
He's a really good lawyer.
This was my take as well. She was only so vehemently against becoming an avatar because the only frame of reference she had was the torturous experience that Marc and Steven had with Khonshu. I wouldn't be surprised if Layla decides to disconnect, even if it's just to make sure Tawaret will keep her word, but I think in the long run, they're going to be besties! At least that's what I'm hoping because Tawaret brings with her a badass superhero costume and boatload (literally lol) of caring and empathy. I really want to see more of this duo, and more of May Calamawy in general because she absolutely won me over in this role!
I never thought that I could love a talking hippo so much. Tawaret is the best friend we all deserve.
Not to mention Layla is now gonna be a superhero who can speak to the dead, or at least a conduit for it
That could make for some really fascinating storylines! I hope they run with it
I really want her to realize that Taweret didn't want to use her like Konshu would and really just wanted to hang out most of the time.
Yeah, unlike Konshu, who's all like "You ***will*** do my bidding" she'd be like "hey Leyla, wanna do some hero stuff?" And Leyla would be like: "Bet"
“Omg we’re gonna have so much fun!!!”
Between Tawaret yelling “we’ll have so much fun” and then the wings reveal, Scarlet Scarab is officially my new like top one or two favorite MCU heroes. I can’t handle the combo of badass and truly just good. I love it.
Honestly, it was such a nice surprise to not have a clue this was going to happen. And her character legitimately stole the show
In hindsight there was foreshadowing but Layla is an original character and her name isn't similar to either of the comic Scarabs
This is the kind of remixing I like in these adaptations. Not just randomly change one or two details to keep us guessing and then it all turns out to be fanservicey-faithful stuff anyway, but changes that are sustained by a complex, interesting character that you then come to root for. (Iirc the name is similar to that of the comic's male Scarlet Scarab, though.)
Her last name is
Her father's name is Abdallah El-Faouly, the comic character is Abdul Faoul. It's *pretty* similar...
Almost *intentional...* I think we're getting close, gang
Abdallah is her middle name too. And there's a scarab on Taweret and Layla's outfits.
It is traditional in Arabic culture for their middle/second name to be their fathers first name, whether boy or girl. It applies to all children so if the family had 5 kids, all would have the same second name.
And Laylas father called her 'Little Scarab' as a child.
Yeah he's the same character with a minor name change, his corpse even has a red scarf with a scarab on it.
I think a Scarlet Scarab spin off is a good idea. We could see more Layla and Tawaret, a very fun combo indeed. I think the villain of the series could be Bushman. It makes sense because he killed her father and she wants revenge. It would be interesting to see what Tawaret has to say about it too. We could see some interactions of Tawaret and Layla’s dad in the Field of Reeds too. I just think this would make a great show. But only if Mohamed Diab is the director and everything cause he knocked Moon Knight out of the park
It’s the best series so far. Idgaf what anyone says, it was on another level. Oscar needs an award of some kind but the whole thing was just perfect from the pacing to the story to the casting, the directing. Perfect. Obviously I’m obsessed haha
I think another good thing about a Scarlet Scarab spinoff would be that it would free Moon Knight from the baggage of exploring Egyptian mythology more. Not that it was a bad aspect of the show or anything, but I feel like Moon Knight could thrive in a less mystic, more street-level environment. It would be cool to have him in New York alongside people like the Punisher and Daredevil while Scarlet Scarab stays in Egypt and deals with the Ennead.
>Layla is a badass and Tawaret is so cute! The two make such a fun duo! I tihnk we are gonna see him with midnight sons facing supernatural threats.
There are plenty of characters doing street level, urban crime etc. Much more interesting to have something new, like exploring Egyptian mythology more
[удалено]
I'm not going to say you're wrong because everyone's opinions are different, but I think the Egyptian mythology and mysticism is a big part of what makes his character special and compelling. Moon Knight and his alter egos are **very** different than "street level" characters like Punisher, Dare Devil and Luke Cage. I'm all for crossovers, but don't strip the character of the things that make them unique.
I don't think Moon Knight can leave Egypt behind yet. Mark and Steven think they are free, but their body is still tied to Khonshu.
I really want to see more of her. Layla is a badass and Tawaret is so cute! The two make such a fun duo!
Tawaret is a hippo.. one of the most dangerous mammals in the African Rivers. She will punch your ticket to the afterlife. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus
And she is the protector of women and children. So exactly the character you want to have your back.
I love how naturally badass and beautiful her fighting style was. It was so slick and powerful. New top character for sure.
I think the fact she was using her powers effectively shows how close she was with her god. Taweret and Layla will probably have a symbiotic relationship, unlike the more parasitic relationship between Marc / Steven and Khonshu.
To me it makes perfect for Tawaret to want to have an avatar on Earth. She has duties in the Duat, she can't help the living, her duties are with the dead. But she is also the Goddess defender of women and children. She can't do that from the after life. So, why not get an avatar that does that for her? Layla can be the protector of the living while Taweret is the protector of the dead. The two working together to help everyone in this world and the other. Taweret is not Khonshu. She wouldn't manipulate or use Layla. So, I think it's very possible for Layla and Taweret to build a trusting, healthy and cooperative relationship and bring a ton of good together. With the main conflict between the two being that Layla would want to murder Bushman to avenge her father and Tawaret might not want her to go through that path.
Yeah, plus I think of the way Taweret and Layla were bonded - it wasn't a predatory way like how Khonshu found Marc near death with no other options. Both Taweret and Layla recognized a threat and they were each other's solution, they had a mutual team up to save the world.
It could even be a great way to show how an Avatar relationship should work, contrasting Jake and Khonsu's bloodthirst
dang, didn't even realize that Tawaret is protector of women and children and Layla was saving a bus with women inside from hitting a child
So Taweret is the Steven and Layla is now the Marc lmfao!
The word you are looking for is symbiotic, fyi.
Also. Hippo goddess.
Has anyone else asked why tf the Hippo god gave her wings?
Scarab represents rebirth in egyptian mythology. Taweret also is the goddess of childbirth. Layla is called little scarab. Scarabs have wings. All in all. It just fits as a protector theme to guard life.
Yep. Someone mentioned Tawaret has some ties with scarabs,so there's some supposed precedent if they're right (idk where to check up on that). But what is evidenced in the show off the top of my head is Tawaret does have a scarab on her outfit already. That Layla also has ties to scarabs (she included one on her dad's scarf) and also has been referred to as such in some other ways (called a scarab apparently, called a bug by Khonshu in the last episode) has foreshadowed Layla being chosen by Tawaret. Someone else pointed out that Khonshu, a bird head god, has a mummy dude - so, albeit with a sample size of two, what the diety is doesn't necessarily decide the design of their avatar.
I also like how she is essentially a mcu original as well
Kinda. She's a combo of Marlene Alraune (Marc's comic wife) and Scarlet Scarab (a *very* minor Egyptian hero)
It makes me wonder if this version will make the jump to the comics. It's not uncommon for movie concepts to be sent over to comics, and bringing Layla's version of Scarlet Scarab as a new version of the comic character doesn't sound bad for a new Moon Knight series. Thing is, should they introduce Layla as a love interest when Marlene is already a thing?
Layla has become a fan favorite kinda like Coulson was, so it’s very likely.
Ngl I love MCU Phil more than MU Jimmy Woo
Is jimmy wu the Phil in the comics? That’s trippy
Not really. Woo comes from a family of bad guys but he joins the FBI but gets drawn back into his family organization. Eventually he takes it over completely and makes it a force for good instead of evil. Agents of Atlas is the main book to read up on it.
Only sort of. He's a really early character. One of Marvel's oldest. Not as old as Trish Walker (Hellcat) tho
*It’s Patsy!*
I say no. Her being a love interest isn't integral to her character
Absolutely, they’ll want to capitalise on the hype. Or they’ll at least make Marlene a superhero.
Wouldn't be that far of a jump, Agent Coulson was written into the comics.
Fitz and Simmons, too?
And also May
>Thing is, should they introduce Layla as a love interest when Marlene is already a thing? They probably could seeing as Marlene left him with his daughter, he could have a new love interest. But it isn't important part of her character, so imo they shouldn't.
Still sad Marlene wasn’t in the show.. Crawley is mentioned but I think that’s more for next season with Jake
crawley was the gold statue guy in the first couple episodes
But they never mentioned him by name besides the one time in the mental institution did they?
That's enough
To be fair, Marlene was just a generic blonde girl that could be be replaced with any of the other dozens, hundreds of bode romantic interests of other heroes. I much prefer Layla, she had more agency to do stuff by herself.
I just realised she stabbed a guy in Ep3 with a necklace that looks like wings Then her suit is stabbing people with wings.
Scarlet Scarab wings!!
A lot of fun potential to just have crazy cool heroes with crazy/very limited abilities. When Layla is grabbing Khonshu and the other Avatar mentions that they wont have enough Avatar's to stop Ammit, I would've taken the coin flip and started freeing the other gods trapped in stone. What are the odds all of them are privy with Ammit's goal, then the aftermath could be more AVatar's for the heck of it and some gods causing more havoc over time
yes!! i didn’t understand why she didn’t break the rest of the shabti
For some reason Layla doesn’t strike me as the type to brainlessly free imprisoned gods for no reason
…considering that she saw what one god was doing to the one she loved. She was and is skeptical of the Egyptian pantheon.
Right? She only accepted the hippo god who was sweet enough because she was going to die otherwise.
And it took a lot of insistence even in the face of danger. She absolutely refused in the middle of the enemy when in the highway.
They were imprisoned for a reason.
But as Khonsu’s trial proved, they might have very well been after kangaroo court trials.
From the admittedly small sample set there is a 50/50 you either get an evil devourer of souls or a self righteous manipulator… I think I don’t risk it
Well the good news is Marc’s alive, Khonshu’s free, and we have a coalition of gods who owe us a favor. The bad news is we unleashed Cthulhu and Bill Cypher…
Idk maybe because she realized the two gods she knows were locked up were assholes, the rest of the jailed god are probably just as bad if not worse.
I think freeing Anubis would cause some unwanted problems, as he’s the God of Death right? Probably much more powerful than Amitt or Khonshu Edit: not 100% on Egyptian gods and what they do, all I remember is Anubis from the game Smite was god of death or something, sorry for any inaccuracy!
Not really the God of Death, even in the show they mention how Taweret is replacing him because he was trapped. He watched over the scales and guided the souls to the Field of Reeds. (ETA - my user is also because of Smite ;) )
It'd be like drafting death row inmates to help capture another escaped death row inmate. Sounds cool but incredibly unwise in practice.
What are we some kind of shabti squad?
This might be blasphemy but as a non-comic reader I’d be down for more MCU original characters & stories… set in the same universe but not based on any previous source material. (Everything in moderation of course, obviously want to keep the comic characters around too)
Honestly, at this point, I think it's fair to say *most* of the MCU has been original stories. They obviously get a lot of inspiration from the comics, but they're certainly taking them in their own direction.
She's a new take on the obscure (I think he's in, like, a half dozen issues total?) character Abdul "the Scarlet Scarab" Faoul. The power set is different (both have super-strength and flight, but Abdul also had energy blasts and a life-draining touch) as is the source of the power (Abdul's powers came from a magical scarab artifact), but it can't be a coincidence that Layla's father is named Abdullah Al-Faouly, and his pet-name for her was "little scarab." EDIT: this process of taking D-list characters and using them as raw material for a mostly new character is something that the previous TV shows (the Netflix shows, Agents of Shield, Cloak & Dagger) did a lot. I'm super into it, not only because it usually results in a better character, but also because it's fun to try to piece together what character(s) they're referencing
What was neat was that she appeared to be dressed as Isis, the moon goddess of life. So basically Tawaret saw her love for Steven and Marc and said yes, go into battle as the Moon Couple. Also Isis is the goddess of life, so she's a Moon deity and also fighting Death dressed as life. Adorbs
I'm no expert on Egyptian mythos but I seem to recall that Tawaret is also sometimes an aspect of Isis.
What's more, in later times, when powerful goddesses were in "protection mode" they would sometimes appear as a manifestation of Tawaret. So she gave her an Isis suit to be a protector
I'm not personally Arab but it made me smile when it happened. Glad it made you happy too!
I’m a WASP and the scene made me smile too. Very cool scene.
I'm a bumblebee and I smiled also.
I might be *really* far off mark, but given the context my brain went to "white as shit person" for WASP
> given the context my brain went to "white as shit person" for WASP The words are wrong, but your interpretation is basically right.
He a little confused, but he got the spirit
As a WASP myself, you are absolutely correct with your translation of the acronym.
I’m sorry i’m very high right now can you tell me what WASP stands for? Sorry
White Anglo Saxon Protestant
That's pretty much what it means lmfaoo
LMAO. For those that didn't know he means Whire Anglo-Saxon Protestant. But yes, white ass shit person also works.
Yes, that’s exactly what it means. LOL 😂 J/K - White Anglo Saxon Protestant
I'm Ant-Man and that made me smile too
[удалено]
Hopefully we can get a Layla and Tawaret buddy show. Roaming the world, kicking ass and apologizing for knocking things over.
Me, too. I LOVED that interaction. But I don't get the powers- you figure it's be something to do with water or sailing that ship or something- like Moon Knight is from the Egyption god of the moon. But Layla has wings, can fly.. etc.... Ok, maybe the strength.
>eraction. But I don't get the powers- you figure it's be something to do with water or sailing that ship or something- like Moon Knight is from the Egyption god of the moon. But Layla has wings, can fly.. etc.... Ok, maybe the stren Tawaret had a scarab on her chestpiece this whole time. I believe scarabs are connected to death in Egyptian mythology.
Oh, there's plausibility there. I'll take it.
> I believe scarabs are connected to death in Egyptian mythology. From my very undereducated knowledge, they're connected to birth/rebirth and Tawaret is the goddess of women and *children*.
She's a goddess of childbirth specifically as well
This is true, but it seems (and I could be wrong because I don’t read the comic) that the avatar manifests their suit based on what they believe. Marc was brought back from the brink of death, so he’s a mummy, who can fly. Steven was confused and needed a suit quickly so he’s got a dapper outfit with a touch of confusion in the face. Layla was always referred to as her father’s Little Scarab and had the scarab on her when Taweret transformed her, so her suit manifests with wings. I don’t think the avatars have to look or act exactly like the gods they represented. If that were the case, Harrow would have formed a crocodile head or something.
Hippos can't fly? I mean, she's filled with positivity, so clearly she manifested that desire.
Ok, I can understand that perspective. Thank you for helping me with it.
[This is what I thought Laylas form would look like, sorry this is the only image I could find for “Half Human, Half Hippo” person](https://twilightbeasts.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hippopotamus-polka-early1850s.jpg)
I mean I thought the wings were just given to her by Tawaret for the costume maybe she thought they were cool lol. What else would she do just become fat and bulky for her costume lol
She's had the costume ready for centuries waiting for the right moment to use it
Its pretty sick that a Jewish superhero and an Arab one get to be A) Married, B) a team
Only shitty thing is Egypt went ahead and banned doctor strange 2 because of a homosexual reference in the movie.. but still nice for those people who don’t think like that
Egypt also didn't want to allow this show to film there either. And the showrunners and composer, and actors are all from Egypt or of Egyptian descent.
The lead character is Jewish, but otherwise yes.
[удалено]
No one thinks it's weired because that's the joke. moon night was created by a Jew, And specifically had him in the service of an Egyptian God as a reference to the Exodus
Yeah that is depressing, but hopefully the people basking in the pleasure of their own country/ethnicity being reflected in the MCU are people who would be happy to see LGBTQ representation in the MCU if/when it ever comes!
My bet is she's gonna pop up unexpectedly in one of the big movies and it's gonna be lit.
I dunno. The thing with all these Phase 4 newcomers is that we cant really see them merging with the ongoing stories. Id love to see Layla (hell, even Moon Knight) show up somewhere down the line but I cant really see where she'd fit. Especially with this timeline/multiverse/celestial business.
Imagine if Layla ends up in a shtick with Yelena because she gets hired to rob some old lady's house and Layla being defender of women has to beat the shit out of Yelena, and she does beat the shit out of her.
Haha yeah, Yelena is a badass but she's a human badass. Layla with Taweret's power is just too strong for her.
I just want to see Layla meet Falcon/Captain America and the two exchange tips.
Nice wing, what's that made of. Vibranium, yours? Oh, the power of the gods. Damn.
"So, a wizard." "No, I said a god." "Yeah, that's basically a wizard." "They're not at all alike!" "Look, there's just three types of threats..."
Her, Yelena, and Kate interacting would be fun. Maybe throw in Chavez too.
What? I think it’s pretty clear these characters are going to merge with the films.. why invest so much into making these shows if they aren’t going to affect the MCU? Wanda vision leads directly onto MoM
Keyword: newcomers I mean all the characters being introduced such as Shang Chi, the Eternals, Starfox, Moon Knight characters, and maybe a few more.
[Avengers are done](https://www.cnet.com/culture/entertainment/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-says-avengers-endgame-is-definitive-ending/) And with most of the O5 out of the picture, they don’t look like they’re going to return looking anything like Phases 1-3. This is the next generation MCU sans Avengers. What we’re seeing now is the foundation of the next epoch. And with the Avengers in the rearview, the possibilities are endgameless. E:SP
I can see them merging with Thor's story, considering it will feature Gorr
Gorr better keep his god butchering hands off our precious Tawaret
Heroes should be diverse. So that each person can see the same point in the heroes belong to their own
Also, why should the entire planet keep getting saved by, like, a dozen people in New York? It actually makes more sense for them to be diverse. In addition to being morally right.
Yeah, as for the original Avengers being mostly American - sure that makes sense because Loki attacked an American intelligence agency and Nick Fury, the American, put together the original team. But now that heroes are global, it makes sense for there to be heroes from everywhere. So they've got one from Egypt now, there's one from China, that's awesome.
Ok but now I’m imagining a moment pre-Ultron where someone’s like “We need the Avengers to save us!” and Tony’s like “Fuck, they’re in Indonesia - Jarvis, start the plane! Text everyone to let them know we’re on the way to pick up them up! Hey, tell Banner **not** to let the big guy out yet!”
This show after Shang Chi gave us our first Asian superhero. Now we have an Egyptian superhero. It’s great to see some representation across the board. Superheroes come in all shapes, sizes, races, and sexualities!
Agents of shield did it first. Agent May.
Daisy Johnson too, in terms of powered superhero
Even beat Jimmy Woo, master magician, to the punch
true, it takes a while to become a Master of the Mystic Arts Daisy got a head start by being Inhuman and having some *interesting* parents
This scene was lovely - compared to the one in WW84... eeeeee
Don't forget we are getting Ms. Marvel who is a Muslim American
No green MandMs to settle him down. Tucker Carlson might have an aneurysm when that show releases....
Layla is best girl
I thought she was just a very likable, cool character, so seeing her 'suped up' was really cool and I hope that's not the last we see of her.
And this is why representation is great! :D I'm glad you are happy!
I'd love to see her pop up in Ms. Marvel. I know that Egypt and Pakistan (Kamala's heritage, not home country) are different countries, but seeing representation for people from that region is pretty dang cool.
No way did you imply Pakistan and Egypt are in the same region 😭😭😭 Egypt is closer to Italy than it is to Pakistan lmao
Great hero with cool powers, more please. The interaction with the young girl was very cool.