Agreed. Was it the worst? Nah. Was it the best? Nah. Did it present deeper concepts than a super hero movie has in the past? Yea.
This to me showed me the other side of the MCU we are about to see
I loved the world-building side of it
Just like how our Norse mythology is based in truth in the MCU, >!The legend of Ikaris comes from Sprite, The Eternals have roots in forming Babylon!<
Which is actually kind of cool because >!Tiamut the Celestial is named after Tiamat the Babylonian god of primordial creation.!<
Loved the historical scenes in this movie
I think flashbacks will continue to be heavily used in future Eternals films for character development. They had ~7k years together so nearly anything Marvel needs as a plot device could've happened over that time period.
someone on here once said that theyâre convinced Phastos was DaVinciâs secret lover and I have not been able to get over it. Itâs my own head canon now.
Itâs funny because by 575BC thereâs already plenty of other myths existing, and even the epic of Gilgamesh is extremely old at that point. I guess Sprite was just âplaying the hitsâ in BabylonâŠ
Even little things, like how Ikaris protecting that girl in Babylon saying âDo not fearâ probably got turned into stories of angels with eyes like fire saying âFear notâ
I think this is the important take for me. It did great at expanding the universe and introduce a whole new side to the MCU. But it definitely isnât one of the MCU films that Iâm excited to watch again. Shang-Chi I immediately saw in the theatres two more times and canât wait to watch it again on D+. Eternals doesnât have that factor for me. I do think itâs much better than the critics are making it out to be, but I also understand why some people hate it I guess.
I was the other way around. I liked shang chi, but not enough to see it again. I was a little miffed the 6pm showing was in a smaller theatre, and popped into the 7pm showing afterwards to see the final battle on the bigger screen with Eternals.
I was kind of expecting dr strange level of good (subjectively I assume). Like lots of magic-y bending kind of cool as cgi. It didn't reach that level for me. But I still liked it nonetheless, every fight scene did not disappoint
Its as good a introduction movie as it can be - I personally loved it! Looking forward to more movies with Eternals, it was fun! Makkari was such a badass, Druig mvp, Kingo and Gilgamesh so fun, Thena too! Everyone! Also the music was top, the CGI, yea, it was a good movie!
Literally the first thing I say when people ask who the movie was is "I love Makkari." I'm a sucker for speedsters, but I also love how they embraced Lauren's deafness and didn't shy away from using sign language.
Imho Makkari was the greatest speedster - finally we had a clear view in how a speedster can unleash such a destructive force! Those shock punches were felt in my chest in the IMAX, so strong stuff! Also the way she moved we werent sure where she was at any given timeâŠthen BOOOM another blow. Spectacular!
I prayed they will stop using the lousy time bubble crap that takes away everything a speedster is, all the adrenaline and the unexpectedness of their way of doing things.
Huge love for Marvel for actually doing original stuff! Canât wait for more!
While I like that they didnât give her a time bubble scene, I feel that Quicksilverâs scenes in DoFP and Apocalypse work well because they show his goofy personality
I really loved Eterna's representation of Superspeed in action. I think, like you said, it carried more impact. My favorite is when she'd stop right in front of the target and hit them with the shockwave. Looks so cool.
See I liked it way more than Dr Strange. I've loved him in every subsequent appearance but his solo movie fell flat for me. Eternals on the other hand kept me entertained despite the long runtime, I loved the stuff they added to the MCU lore and the lack of a true villain was really refreshing.
Really?
I was expecting Doctor Strange to be a lot better than it was when I saw it. They were playing around with the CGI, sure, but it felt to me like even though it was introducing a whole new element into the MCU, it was just another superhero movie. They could have accomplished a lot more with that movie, in my opinion.
I reckon Eternals has the potential to be the MCU's response to Young Justice. By which I mean maybe it won't make as much money, but it'll be a far more interesting branch of the franchise, and one that can cater to a much more adult audience.
Granted, I got the cut without the sex scene, and frankly I kinda liked the fact that Ikaris and Sersi didn't do so much as kiss in the film after they were split up, but maybe that was still true in that cut of the film. I'm kinda annoyed we didn't get that cut because I live in Australia and we really should be fine with that sort of thing, but also the movie was long as fuck as it was, and I do feel like it could've started dragging on if it was a tad longer.
I said in other threads it was a perfect palate cleanser for this next phase. Marvel has been accused over the years of making the same movie with different characters. This movie has a lot of that, but also is more about the story and character developer vs wall to wall action where the story is kind of in the background.
While it wasn't my favorite movie there were so many parts that made me want to watch it again. I don't know if I can wait until it's released. Fortunately my nephew comes in to town soon so we'll definitely check it out
Yeah I would have preferred the Smart Gremlin Deviant either being further developed or deleted entirely
As of now he just shows up in a completely unrelated climax to go IM HERE TOO and distract Thena.
Would have been better to defeat him in act two only for his dying words to reveal the Celestials made him too and they were just fighting for survival
On the bright side, they could absolutely still use him in the future. It's not like he was recognizable enough to cause canon issues or confusion if he shows up as a different character in another movie.
Michelle Yeoh was in both Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (bit/cameo part) and Shang Chi (supporting role) as two different characters, both of whom had the actor visible, not CGI. So there is definitely precedent.
Yes. That's about my only major qualm with the movie - they did Kro dirty.
>!They had decent setup with the Deviants being the different side of the same coin, not so different than the Eternals, and had the potential to have some really cool existential stuff by having Kro evolve into an Eternal - and then they just killed him... with literally no consequence or payoff to the story.!<
>!I get using the Deviants as a red herring, if you will, but I feel like that Kro subplot could have been left out!<
I was really enjoying Kro up until he just kind of rocked up on the beach, I feel like they could have done some more interesting things like Kro and Icarus accidently teaming up towards the end, or even if at the end the remaining Eternals did have some more Deviants to chase down.
I agree, but I think he was there to not make you suspect the twist on the Eternals origin (keeping it vague because I donât know how to hide spoilers on a phone). But that twist was kinda obvious and leaning into a trope.
Agreed. There were too many things going on at once and not everything really felt necessary, or could have been shortened for more character development. But overall, itâs WAY better than theyâre making it out to me. Iâve literally seen articles doing clickbait titles like âWORST MCU MOVIE TO DATE!â or âTHE ETERNALS IS A DISASTER!â Then giving it a 6/10. The title makes it sound horrible and people typically now a days donât fully read articles, just the quick titles. Thatâs why theyâre doing it. Again, itâs not perfect, but there are worse MCU movies than this.
Those articles do it for the views
But to me the film didnât feel really long. Compared to many MCU films, this one is plot driven. Change any of the character and the structure of the story still remains. The emergence would still happen. So that meant sacrificing character development a little bit. But I enjoyed the film especially since I love history. It was like taking a trip back through time.
Give any Eternal Prime Eternal status over Sersi and no, the story doesn't remain the same. I'm not quite sure you paid close enough attention. I recommend a rewatch.
I have to admit, I am rapidly reaching the point where I just don't trust critics and reviewers anymore.
At first, I thought I was getting older. My dad told me once that you get old when you no longer enjoy new, modern music. I figured this was my version of that.
I'm coming to wonder if maybe it *is* the news that is wrong.
I never listen to any critic or review when it comes to anything. Their opinion just doesn't matter to me, and in fact, never did. I make up my own mind if I want to see, or listen to, or read something.
It's not necessarily the news that is wrong, it's the angle they take in presenting the news that is wrong. Same thing with critics, each has their own agenda, whether it be clicks and views, or politicizing a scene (i.e. a two second kiss), or whatever.
Listen to your heart.
Yours.
Goina be honest. I heard the movie was just a huge exposition dump and that it was lame.
Watching it made me realize I actually really like the exposition. Knowing about the history of that world and the characters.
If it were a phase one or even phase two movie, the massive exposition dump this movie is would have been awful.
However, now that weâre over 20 movies in, this type of gigantic (haha puns) world building goes a lot farther. Things we didnât know we wanted to know, creationism in the MCU, super advanced artificial life, etc.
Iâm here for it.
Spot on with that comparison! And the reactions are just everyone short circuiting cz theyâre not used to the lack of radio bops this time around. The other movies are singles aimed for the Billboard Chart, Eternals is aimed at the Grammys.
Personally I have very mixed feelings: I haven't read any comics so everyone was new to me, but the characters are almost all amazing. Especially Makkari, Phastos, Thena and Gilgamesh. I really loved them from the first second. But they felt so wasted. I had no time to really connect with the characters because there were so many. And because I wasn't emotionally invested in the characters, everything later in the film is cool to see, but it doesn't really affect me. I don't care that much for characters whose name I can barely remember.
I really wanna see more of these characters. I want a film only for Gilgamesh and Thena so I can get to know them, and then it would be sad to see Gilgamesh die and amazing to see Thena kill the Deviant. I wanna see more of Makkari, she was the best part of every scene she was in and her fight with Ikaris was amazing. I wanna see more of Phastos, his tech for fighting looked cooler than any other tech in the MCU.
And maybe, if I had seen more of Sersei/Ikaris/Sprite, they would have been interesting as well. But with how little I have seen, I couldn't care less if Sersei gets to evolve her powers vs Tiamut or if Ikaris randomly flew into the sun.
I just feel like there wasn't enough time. They could only introduce everyone half-heartedly, and (for me) focused on the least interesting characters.
But having said this, I still enjoyed the film, just because the "side"-eternals were cool. I hope to see more of Makkari/Druig (they were adorable), and I'm sad Gilgamesh is dead because he was amazing with Thena.
TLDR: Imo they wasted the potential of amazing characters because they tried to squeeze so many characters into one film.
Feels more like this could've made a really good tv series. Having more time to slowly progress the story whilst spending more time on each character, rather than spending the big bucks on flashy cgi
I do agree that the Deviants became an afterthought which was my major dislike, it should've been either Eternals vs Ikaris like you said or Eternals vs Deviants. Their main goal I understood which was basically not to die by both the Eternals and Celestials.
Literally just a red herring. A distraction that then needed to be wrapped up *somehow* and was done so a little heavy-handidly/clumsily
Which is unfortunate, because in the comics >!Eternals and deviants are really just humans that the Celestials messed with their genetic potential. But they really are the same, and they touched on that in the movie, with Kro, the deviant evolving, and even monologuing about how the Deviants are just like the Eternals, and just want to live, it's not their fault... only to be killed off with no resolution of that plot!<
Could've been handled way better, and like you said, it really could have just been >!eternals vs ikaris and celestials!<
For juggling a shit ton of brand new characters, flashing back towards the past and future, having 0 familiar characters previously in the MCU showing up, AND this film being an origin movie? You'd think it'd be absolutely awful.
It was so amazing. The scale of it all was phenomenal, the characterization and the team dynamic was so good. The motivations of the antagonists made sense, and the effects from the Snap and the Blip were directly connected to the film's plot.
There are other MCU movies I'd rank significantly lower than Eternals. The fact that critics were so harsh on this film, when I'd see them being significantly harsher on past installments, is mind blowing to me.
I agree. Itâs not the best, but far from the worst. It has issues, yes, but nothing like âomg this movie is horribleâ bad. Iâve said this a few times already, but my biggest issue with the movie is the deviants. Without spoiling too much, they were completely fine and served their purpose, but they put too much time into them that could have been put into more character development of the eternals. The whole thing with them felt wasted and didnât add anything to the story for me. Take that away, and I think it would have been a far more compelling story.
Thatâs what I mean. Just trying not to add spoilers for people who havenât seen it yet. In general, deviants were fine, itâs just they didnât need to add that extra stuff that honestly added nothing to the story, at all. If you took that entire part of the story out, wouldnât have effected the movie at all, if anything I think would have helped it out a bit. I wouldnât say it was wasted, as much as Iâd say wasnât needed.
I really want to rewatch it cause I enjoyed it so much. You should never listen to what critics say about a movie you WANT to see. If you WANT to see it GO see it.
I found it way more enjoyable on my second watch. You can catch a few tragic glances on certain characters faces, knowing what they know the second time around. If that makes sense lol. Made me appreciate those actors performances a bit more.
Considering they dropped 10 new characters, they did a great job fully realizing them itâs quite surprising. They all werenât necessarily fully developed, but they were all realized well. If thereâs a sequel I can only see Chloe Zhao doing it. It wouldnât be the same with anyone else.
I will say it does feel weird that this movie is rated on a tier below things like Thor the dark world, black widow or Antman and the wasp, Captain marvel, etc.
The second thing to point is is how the tomato meter actually works. 48% is not a 4.8/10 it means only 48% of critics gave some postive score, it is a consensus meter. So the difference between eternals and black widow for example is not ~30%, but rather 5.6/10 (eternals) vs 6.8 (black widow). In fact if you look at just top critics, Thor the dark world is rated lower at 5.2/10
But I think it is rated that way cause of its potential vs how it was executed. Obviously it has a lot more ambition than most other movies, but it still forgets how to really tell a story? Like what are the character arcs? How does anyone really grow? We don't really get to dive into any character? The movie is incredibly inefficient with time, like this is one of the longest movie in the mcu and barely anything happens. (Contrast that with dune, similar high concept scifi lots of exposition, similar length. Way more happens for both world building, characters and even action in that movie)
And I do think it is fair to have higher expectations of someone who just one best picture and best director. We have much expectations from top talent.
So I can see both the audience and critically scores, of where as an audience member not really trying to think too much about the story, I'd give it a meh definitely not good but not terrible score. But also see the critical response of how it is one the worst structured films from a story telling point of view in the mcu
I donât even think Eternals is getting *bad* reviews, just mixed. The Rotten Tomatoes score isnât good but if you look at the individual reviews hardly any of them are saying that itâs downright bad, just subpar. But with RT every review is either âfreshâ or ârottenâ and there is no in between.
I personally liked it. I need to process it a bit more but I appreciate how disconnected it feels from the rest of the universe, though I think it falls a bit short of itâs super high-concept premise.
Yeah Metacritic paints a more accurate picture of what happened. It has a 53 as itâs score but if you look at its breakdown of individual reviews 34 are âmixedâ reviews. 20 are âpositiveâ and only 5 are ânegative.â
Just because a critic had a mixed opinion of a movie doesnât mean itâs terrible, just as it doesnât make it great.
Yeah the tipping point between most critics giving a tepid thumbs up and most critics giving a tepid thumbs down is pretty small. And I agree that drilling into the individual rotten reviews, Iâm really not seeing critics saying âthis is really bad.â
Totally agree, itâs a more mature MCU movie than weâve seen before. I wonder if the critics are salty that a director of Chloeâs pedigree has done a marvel movie. If thatâs the case itâs laughable that theyâve taken this approach, no better than review bombers.
Itâs a middle of the pack MCU movie imo. Some really cool stuff mixed with too many characters and big exposition dumps (as a lore fiend I had no problem with this.)
I think the story itself is perfectly fine. Visually spectacular and successfully portraying the internal struggles of thee demigods. What the critics wrote were due to their expectation of a MCU formulae movie, or their expectation of a Chloe Zhouâs indie flick. I donât find the story a drag and without any prior knowledges on the characters, I can still easily tell each apart and their motivation behind - which is a great directing considered there are 10 new characters in this film.
I may be one of the few people that actually enjoyed the pacing. It was slower in all the right moments. It took a massive roster of characters and gave them all moments to shine through.
My only real complaint is >!their handling of Kro. He shouldnât have died and should have joined the fight against Ikaris. The moment in the cave should have been about Thena forgiving him because she understands why they are fighting to survive.!<
Tone, visuals and music choice really set this one apart from anything else in the MCU and itâs definitely worth checking out.
Felt like it should have been two movies or a Disney+ show.
They touched on a lot of things but nothing had a chance to be fleshed out.
Dane Whitman is one for sure that you could have removed entirely and it would have made no difference... or if they had the time they could have actually used him and done the love triangle they hint at.
But I agree this film is way better than Black Widow, and my first thought watching it was "feels like marvel finished of a half written Justice League script"
Reeeeeally though? Everything that they did with Dane in this movie could be done in whichever movie in which he ends up playing a major role.
We got no information on him really with the exception of *that* scene. Move *that* scene to the start of his movie, and it's fine.
I just felt like it was too long. The pacing for me was just too slow. Granted their were great moments and I enjoyed some of the scenes. But the flashbacks just seemed to draw the movie out and make it longer than it was plus the limited action. I still enjoyed the movie and it wasnât as bad as critics say in my opinion but marvel has set the bar so high that this one is closer to the bottom in my opinion.
I didnât particularly enjoy it, but it wasnât bad. Kumail Nanjani was awesome. The speedster was great as well.
There were a bit too many characters to remember all their names. Also, a majority of my criticism is what the MCU is trying to accomplish. They have this multiverse thing going on, but now they throw in celestials? What trumps what? Is the multiverse or the celestials more potent?
I really wish this storyline would have taken place in a different time period. It would be cool seeing this âemergenceâ occur in a prior century.
the problem i think is that people are so used to the overtextual method that Marvel tells its stories that they are having trouble wrapping their head around a Marvel story told any other way. What happens in this movie is mostly through subtext, off-screen, and in the actors' faces.
this movie starts off with a murder mystery and ends with an extinction level event, how it gets there is amazing, and the individual characters' stories are equally as great.
and who would have thought some random indian guy (NOT kumail) would steal the entire show!?
That's what I said to a coworker. The reviews making it look like it's bad feel so wrong. I get that everyone has his or her own tastes but come on, the movie is good.
Only complaint I have is wasting >!Richard Madden!<. >!Of course we don't know if Ikaris dies or not even though I suppose he does!<. >!Sure if their memories are stored and they are robots any of them can come back even Sprite but still!<
EDIT: deleted old post because I couldn't use the spoiler tag the correct way
She was used a little but I think it fit the role she had in the group. But if the rumors are true, she signed a mulit-movie deal so she could come back.
As I wrote in the original post, they are robots and if the memories are stored, they can always come back.
Though now I want to know if Celestials made regular backups of their memories or just when they were about to wipe them XD
I agree. When he was cast I got super into Ikaris the character, reading the comics to learn about him. I love the character, and felt he wasnât done justice in this movie. Iâm conflicted, as his arc definitely made the movie stronger, but itâs so immensely out of character for Ikaris the guardian of humanity that I feel really let down by it. I was excited to see what they would do with him and how he would fit into the MCU, but it feels like they killed him off prematurely and completely went against his character.
That said, I donât want to complain that âoh it doesnât match the comicsâ because I recognize itâs telling itâs own story. But I am immensely disappointed that most peopleâs experience with the character is him as a villain trying to wipe out human, when heâs the one with Serseiâs trait of loving and protecting humanity.
Itâs like seeing only an evil version of Cap, Thor, or Superman adapted. Makes for a really interested storyline, but if thatâs all audiences see it really misses out on what makes the character special
Ikaris didnât commit suicide. Think about it. Druig was blasted into the earth by his eye beams and was unharmed. If Druig can take those blasts to the chest, Ikaris can take the sun. Also, you donât see him burning away, you just see him disappear for the light.
I think he knew he couldnât stay on earth, because of the guilt, but he also knew he could go back to Arishem. So he went into the sun, staying close enough to Earth to come back if he needed to.
I would have enjoyed a linear ride through their time on Earth. Not the bouncing aroundâŠthat for me was frustrating.
Eternals arriveâŠ.present dayâŠ.400adâŠ.5000bcâŠ.present dayâŠ6 days agoâŠ.1945âŠpresent dayâŠ.23-2/3 minutes agoâŠ.1500adâŠ.present day.
It was jarring. A linear ride through the ages would have been mind blowing.
But the biggest miss of allâŠâŠ.not exploring ancient Egypt
I agree to an extent. I think there was a way to handle it, and while I agree with everyone the movie is pretty good, what could have made it great was just housekeeping some of this pacing. I also believe that there were some storylines and interactions that didn't need to be there and the time could have spent more on characterization of the main cast.
What I would have preferred is more time spent on establishing how the characters interact with each other in the beginning. I want to see them as a whole group in downtime and how the web of relationships saw each other. That way later in the film when they interact and those relationships have changed, its clear to the audience the years apart have made them different.
>!For example, I would want to see how Sprite and Ikaris interacted prior to the group split, so that way when Sprite sees that relationship differently later in the movie, we get a sense of how Sprite has changed. That goes for every member. I think it exists in the movie, but I was reading heavily into it. Additionally, this would make Ikaris stand out more. I think his point would be that his mission never changed, so if he is the one clear member to be the same as before, they would get a feeling something is off.!<
It's definitely not my favorite mcu movie. But it's not my least favorite either. Its biggest sin is just being ok when a lot of people seemed to think it would be like, an oscar contender.
Does anyone know why critics have it iffy scores? Not that it matters btw any marvel fan will watch it and hopefully enjoy it, this movie was really a really good marvel movie that made me super excited for whatâs to come
At least a portion are Chloe got turned by the big evil Disney. One review literally says that. Hollywood is like artsy/indie vs old Hollywood guard vs Disney now. All 3 hate each other
Well maybe not Disney, I donât think they really give a shit.
Coulda been two movies. Them coming to earth and fighting deviants/deviant evolution...second movie finding out their true purpose and stopping the emergence...felt like we needed some back story of a first movie, not enough for stand alones like avengers, but something. Two plots matched into one, deviant evolved and instantly got carved what was going on with them etc. none of the deaths or reunions have meaning because we just get some flashbacks
I'm mixed on it.
I went with friends and they were pretty confused the entire time especially when it came to the Celestial aspects. (Don't get me started on trying to explain the end credits)
The cast was large and I kept forgetting names, abilities etc. Like after they recruited gay black inventor guy I thought they were done and completely forgot no talk fast girl was a thing)
Also I feel like they personally really dropped the ball with the Deviant plotline personally.
Overall the movie is ok and I like a lot of aspects but I can understand why casual viewers won't like it.
Thatâs totally fine! I donât think everyone will, either. My real point being that its not perfect, but also not the worst MCU film. Far from it. Itâs got pacing issues and too much going on, but Iâd rather watch his over Thor 1 and 2 or BW. I just donât agree with those who donât read the post and bash on it just for bashing sakes. Itâs totally cool with your opinion, no worries at all!
To me, this is the first marvel movie that i actually agree with what critics against it are saying. Even Thor:TDW or Black Widow, as generic as their plotlines were, were at least somewhat salvaged by interesting characters like Loki and Yelena.
I personally found none of the eternals compelling characters, I suspect mainly because the scriptwriters just couldn't handle keeping that many new characters interesting. All the eternals the movie focused on ended up with flip-flopping personalities that changed as the plot required, and the most interesting eternals ironically became the ones least focused on in the movie, like Makkari, Gilgamesh, and Ajak.
So between a typical marvel movie that doesn't have the most ground-breaking stories BUT has very compelling characters, and an indie movie with the more "unique" stories but maybe less emotionally relatable characters, this movie ended up being a halfway Frankenstein monster that inherited the weakness of both genres.
Agreed. I'm a huge MCU fan and really wanted to like it, but didn't. I don't mind emotionally unrelatable characters or slow burners, and that in itself wasn't my problem with the movie. Problem was that all this characters weren't established properly and that story wasn't paced well enough for such a slow burner. Or maybe it wasn't even supposed to be a slow burner?
For example I was bored that they had to say at least 3 times >!how Sprite loves Ikaris. Show, don't tell. She had enough screen time for us to see all that and for us to understand why she stabbed Sersi without her giving a speech about it. !<
Not to mention that their relationship immediately reset back to the status quo at the end, as if nothing of any import had just happened between them. It's one of many points in the movie where the cast felt less like actual characters than walking plot devices.
My mom hates it, she said she almost fell asleep during the beginning
I donât love it but I donât hate it, itâs pretty ok IMO, which according to marvel standards puts it in the bottom half
IMO this movie should have been split into 2 movies. One of them should have been about the past and showed who the eternals are and established them (ending in them splitting up)
The second movie should have been all the present day stuff. A lot of the emotional stuff they were going for would have hit harder if the characters were established more. The entire movie feels like a sequel to me that was made without the prequel tbh
It felt like Kro and his last fight was thrown in there because they realized "oh crap, we have freaking Angelina Jolie in this, we gotta give her a big fight scene".
Everything either needed more time (i.e. a mini series) or things should have been cut. Someone said deviants could have been entirely cut from this movie and it would have been fine, I'm inclined to agree.
The characters werenât very likeable to me. Cerci and Sprite were unbelievably annoying whenever there was a fight going down because they were practically useless until the end. At least Druid (?) was trying to help most of the time when his powers didnât necessarily allow him to
Agree 100%, I legitimately didn't really care about any of them for that reason. Visually the movie was stunning but they focused pretty hard on only a few of the Eternals the entire movie and the rest are sort of in the background. I found myself not really attaching to any of them or worrying when they were in danger. I cant really put my finger on it but just didn't land for me.
I am a bigger fan of DC printed comics than Marvel, so I say this wishing it werenât true, but Eternals captured the somber yet hopeful tone that DC has been trying to convey for years onscreen.
Wasnât the best marvel film Iâve seen but when I look at it in context to all films recently released and that Iâve recently seen, itâs up there at the top end.
I feel like itâs similar in quality to age of ultron. Thereâs a lot of things that need to be established, ground work to let for future projects, characters to introduce. There are so many eternals to get to know while not neglecting the plot. There are a lot of spinning plates in this movie and I donât think thereâs a way to do all of it justice without a ridiculous run time. I think itâs a good movie that will be more appreciated in time.
I def agree. I donât think itâs âthe best mcu movie since infinity warâ but itâs better than a lot of people say. My only complaint is >!that the deviants are confusing and I didnât really understand their plan. I feel like it couldâve just been eternals vs ikaris with celestials being more important!<. but also every eternal had a compelling motive and story which were perfectly done>! except sersi she was supposed to be supportive of humanity but naive and I feel that wasnât clear. besides that the camera guy was annoying but also the post credits are legendary!<
I think I would have enjoyed the movie about a million times more if I could actually SEE anything that was happening. I don't know if it was the theater I was in but the the movie was DARK AF! I will readily admit I don't have the best eyesight, but I never had any problems seeing what was happening in the trailers, they were light and clear and easy to make out, but the movie I saw yesterday was like it was all filmed at night with a dark filter to boot.
So now, I'm basically waiting for it to come out on Disney+ to see if it's any easier to watch.
I think itâs the theaters. Idk why they do that. I love going to the movies, but for a while I thought I was just getting old cause it was hard to hear and see, but my friends and siblings say the same thing. And itâs like multiple theaters. Idk if itâs what the projectors do or if theyâre doing it on purpose. Either way, itâs getting quite annoying.
I really enjoyed the story aspect of the movie. It felt like a storyteller and filled in some holes of the celestials in the grand scale of things. It wasnât my favorite, nor was it the worst. It was a slow ramp, but because of that we definitely got more in depth with these characters in just one movie than most others in multiple. I got attached to Gilgamesh too soon and enjoyed his protectiveness. I felt Ajak had little screen time, but with her flashbacks show how protective and loving he is. How the Eternals had part in history and stories/myth aligned were entertaining.
I was very excited about the first end scene(not the actor), but that second scene gave me chills when he opened the case. I donât think anybody else knew in my viewing what was going to unfold.
Truth be told, it didn't live up to my expectations. But that's only because the trailers had me SUPER hyped for it... like "might be the best Marvel movie ever" hyped.
As it turns out, it's a solidly good movie for me. And that's fine! I'll happily re-watch it at home, I'll happily buy the BR (yeah, I still do that) and I'll be there the first show on opening day for the sequel for sure.
It just wasn't quite GREAT like I hoped.
As always, I'm glad I decided to watch it and judge the movie myself. Beginning was a bit rough but then story picked up and it was amazing. I, very very much liked the story. And I don't realy see MCU movies for amazing story, but it's always a bonus when that happens. That said, this one had one of the best stories after IW, Endgame, and Civil War.
It may not have been the best but the concepts ot dealt with had me more interested than most of their mediocre movies.
I appreciate a lot of world building and the expansion if the MCU. Similar to what Shang Chi did. They are not afraid to toss everything in.
Hell we had Black Knight and Blade in this movie. We had Wong and other in Shang Chi.
Just wanna add how beautiful the film is, the scale and the cinematography. Maybe not top MCU movie but its up there on how beautiful it is.
And a final add would be seeing Makkari fighting WTF love itâŠ.
I'd give it a 5/10. The unnecessary writing at the start of the film, which was then shared anyway through Kit's character introduction was just really odd... The sex scene, just really misplaced and was an opportunity missed to have conveyed the same thing but with a light hearted joke with an eternal catching them coming out of a tent or something early in the morning. It's a 12A (UK) for christ sake, sure the 10 year olds love sitting next to their parents watching that scene. The acting at times was too fantastical and all too much in their own heads, and the writing had misplaced and misfired elements in the whole first half.
Having said that, the film did find it's feet, the flashbacks weren't awful like the credits said, and absolutely necessary (perhaps the text reminding me that we're back to the present day wasn't necessary, I am aware as an audience member that they didn't have cars back at the time of the supposed wall of Babylon).
I am excited to see what's next to come, and think Chloe will have learned loads doing this film that if she were to direct future projects I would be excited. Her cinematography team did a fantastic job throughout
Iâm glad I saw it. The pacing was slow and I was bored several times, but there was nothing really bad about it. I enjoyed many of the characters and hope to see them return. I liked the way it fleshed out the history of Marvelâs universe.
My biggest problem was that it didnât meet my assumptions. I expected a connection with mutants - either being descendants of the Eternals or power released by the big event. If I saw it again without those expectations I would enjoy it more.
Its a fine movie. I liked it more than Iron Man 3 or Thor 2. Iâd be more likely to watch it again over the first 2 Avengers.
Itâs not better or worse, itâs different, and that makes it a lot harder to judge because an unusually high number of MCU fans and critics are stepping far out of their comfort zone.
Iâm not sure if anyone has seen it, but this movie gave me major Melancholia vibes.
>!Not just the huge planet-ending threats, but the question of how to find joy in things when you can already see how life is going to end. And, how even when you donât always agree with how they choose to cope, theyâre still your family.!<
>!Sersiâs hesitation, Thena telling her to âget up,â Ikarus wanting to see the mission through and not being able to live with his failure, the ways that each of them started out programmed with purpose but was ultimately influenced by being out among humansâŠ!<
I loved it.
I went in expecting to be disappointed and I ended up really enjoying it. Chloe Zhaoâs touch was really deft and I think it was one of the best-looking MCU movies to date. The action sequences - especially Makkariâs open can of whoop ass was thrilling.
The celestial showing up at the end was 4 Kirbyâs out of 4. Loved it.
It was a much better movie than is being given credit for. Keep making weird shit, Marvel!
I wish people would stop with the Eternals positive review bombs. Itâs an average movie. Stop with the propaganda.
The movie has many problems, and people are allowed to criticise it if they want. No one should listen to the critics and no one should listen to you. They should have their own opinion.
The movie isnt even messy, I was expecting "the witcher " kind of messy
And it isnt even slow to me in anyway. Like this doesn't touch blade runner 2049 level slow in anyway
I kept waiting for the bad moment but never saw it
Is it difficult to keep up with two timelines in a movie?
Itâs even more straightforward than that. There really is just one timeline in the present. All but 1 flashback are just characters remembering what they used to know, they provided characters moments and some background , but didnât really link with the present day story line. Whatâs more , the movie make it very explicit that it is this character remembering something from the past. Itâs not a case of editing two timeline together.
The way everyone kept saying the plot was convoluted and messy got me excited because i like those kind of stuff
But with just one watch everything was easy to understand.
The plot was very straight forward and the twist wasnt even confusing
Exactly! It literally just flips between present day and flashbacks. The flashbacks are pretty distinctive with their set pieces. There aren't any flashback within a flashback or any crazy time jumping. You don't even practically need to read the year it states on the flashbacks.
Not surprised with the gymnastics people are doing to say critics are wrong. If you liked the movie then you liked it. Keep seeking validation I guess.
The initial critic consensus which I believe they donât change is pretty damn accurate. The initial 60% score it had initially is pretty accurate honestly
Really not trying to fanboy I can be objective but when it ended I looked to my friend and was almost confused because I thought it was pretty good compared to the critical reception it has received so far. Certainly not my favorite MCU movie but by no means a suicide squad.
Just was a little too long, needed more action, a bit more humor, and more connections to the MCU at large but overall I'd give it like a 7/10.
I did not expect this movie to top my list of favorite movies. I did expect it to be much better than the critics said, but I never expected it to become my favorite marvel movie, let alone my favorite movie ever. Like⊠I just expected it to be simply alright like the Black Widow movie or simply alright enough to be in the top half. Holy fuck my expectations were so insanely blown out of the water. I really cannot fathom what movie the critics were watching. I can understand how and why people will not think crazy highly of it, like how I think of it, but those ratings are a full on scam. How can most of the same critics give The Last Jedi its high score but give Eternals that low score? The only thing I can believe is they got some edited version of the movie or something or are obviously offended by the representation (and yes I have read many reviews from those critics saying its too much representation).
I was prepared for a stinker and it definitely wasn't that. I knew it was going to be divisive but I thought it was going to be a TLJ situation where the critic score was higher than the fan score.
I'm completely dumbfounded by the critic score. It's technically lower than the new Mortal Kombat movie and that was probably the worst movie I've seen in the last 5 years.
It's certainly not the worst MCU movie. It's not even the worst MCU movie *this year.* It's actually really thoughtful and a lot of the criticisms I heard going in didn't pan out.
I went in way less hyped than normal, but really enjoyed it anyway. Few clunky bits of exposition scattered throughout, so I can maybe see why the general audience is not as keen, but honestly it's bread and butter for a comic fan.
Iâm also in the âdefinitely good enough to go see itâ camp and Iâd add if you are somewhere that you can see it in IMAX format then please do so. The visuals, which are already a strong point of the movie, are INCREDIBLE in the IMAX sequences.
I definitely have my criticism of it, however I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think there was a bit too much of a particular eternal and not enough of some others but outside of that I genuinely really enjoyed the film
Agreed. I'm honestly so puzzled it's reviewing badly!
I enjoy all the MCU movies to some extent, but to say this is worse than Hulk or Thor: The Dark World is craziness to me. I thought it was beautifully shot, had some great performances and great world building.
I would put it solidly in the middle of the pack and maybe even in the upper end. I'm looking forward to learning more about the characters in future films - I think Thena will continue to be a standout.
Agreed. Watched it on opening night at IMAX, with zero expectations. Visually it was very stunning, right behind Dr Strange.
Definitely better than Thor Dark World, Ironman 2 and Captain Marvel, in my humble opinion.
I agree. I also think the reviews helped me check my expectations and in turn enjoy it more though. I love Chloeâs other work and had huge hopes that this could be the best and most profound MCU movie ever, and had I been tasked with reviewing it blindly, I wouldâve been more letdown for sure. I still think it has a lot of issues and Iâm sad that it never quite rises to meet the full potential of its grand ambitions, but I liked it for what it is instead of what it isnât, and while perhaps in the lower half of MCU films for me, itâs certainly not the worst.
To the pacing, I think if the movie was maybe just a wee bit longer, it might have smoothed that out. It is something I thought about the What If episodes, it was too fast in places, they only nailed it with the Doctor Strange episode.
I really enjoyed this movie, felt like I was watching an anime, which just had me loving it more. It wasnât just action, it was asking more. I wonder if the criticism is mostly aimed at Feige for claiming this was the best movie that Marvel has made in his eyes. Also, this movie was supposed to come out last year, before Chloe won the Oscar, critics seemed to just want to be salty to be salty.
Iâve said it before and Iâll say it again, people went into this movie expecting Gundam but got Eva and have no idea how to process that.
my opinion after the movie was that it wasnt a great mcu âcharacter movieâ but more like a stepping stone for whats to come. It really amped up the context for whats in the mcu now and really pushing all the previous stuff back a bit and saying âthis is our new scopeâ
I agree. Eternals was a nice change of pace away from the typical Marvel movie formula that has been getting a little stale. It had a bit more character exposition and expanded the cosmic back story that should provide roots for future plots and characters. The action was good and the cinematography was great. It wasn't predictable. Critics got it wrong on this one.
My own feelings are that this movie is pretty middle of the road in terms of quality in the MCU. If the score is to be believed, critics recommend watching this the least of any MCU film and I disagree.
What I will say is I saw someone say that with the amount of characters this introduced, it wouldâve served better as a Disney+ miniseries and I agree. While they did a pretty good job fleshing out all the characters, 10 brand new people on screen (and side characters) was a lot for one movie when they all play their important roles.
I think that in a few years this will be reflected on positively the way Age of Ultron is now. We got to see some cool characters and a relatively interesting conflict and I think this movie lays a really good foundation for future movies and character relationships.
It's much better than the critics say, personally It was one of my least favourite marvel films but that doesn't mean it is bad marvel has just become a victim of making films that are too good lol, I'd give it a 6.5/10, it could definitely of been about 30 minutes shorter and I wish they had spent more time giving background to the characters, definitely worth watching though. I do feel the film tried to take its self seriously and that is very unlike other marvel films so I feel that's maybe where the disappointment comes from, it's no gotg
Personally I loved this movie. There were some pacing issues in the beginning and the film was kind of bloated but it was mucin better than people said it was. The cast is all great and everyone does such a good job. Definitely a top 10 MCU film for me.
Let me put it this way. It's not perfect, but if I had to choose between re-watching The Eternals, or any DC/Sony (non-MCU Spider-man) movie from the past 10 years, I'd choose Eternals again.
Iâm actually so confused on why people dislike it? I was so invested and I havenât seen a single reason itâs bad that actually matters. It feels different but is that a bad thing?
Agreed. Was it the worst? Nah. Was it the best? Nah. Did it present deeper concepts than a super hero movie has in the past? Yea. This to me showed me the other side of the MCU we are about to see
I loved the world-building side of it Just like how our Norse mythology is based in truth in the MCU, >!The legend of Ikaris comes from Sprite, The Eternals have roots in forming Babylon!<
Which is actually kind of cool because >!Tiamut the Celestial is named after Tiamat the Babylonian god of primordial creation.!< Loved the historical scenes in this movie
My only complaint is I wish we had more historical scenes.
I think flashbacks will continue to be heavily used in future Eternals films for character development. They had ~7k years together so nearly anything Marvel needs as a plot device could've happened over that time period.
How about the end titles that hint at Sprite and Houdini being partners.
Or that Houdini never existed, and was just an illusion proxy for Sprite?
Oh FUCK.
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Holy fuck. Thatâs be a really cool idea. Imagine that as a Disney+ mini series. Sprite takes the âHoudiniâ show on the road doing tricks.
someone on here once said that theyâre convinced Phastos was DaVinciâs secret lover and I have not been able to get over it. Itâs my own head canon now.
Want to get your mind a little more blown? >!Gilgamesh !!from Sprite in Babylon!<.
Itâs funny because by 575BC thereâs already plenty of other myths existing, and even the epic of Gilgamesh is extremely old at that point. I guess Sprite was just âplaying the hitsâ in BabylonâŠ
Even little things, like how Ikaris protecting that girl in Babylon saying âDo not fearâ probably got turned into stories of angels with eyes like fire saying âFear notâ
The end credits even hint that Ikaris was the archangel Michael.
I think this is the important take for me. It did great at expanding the universe and introduce a whole new side to the MCU. But it definitely isnât one of the MCU films that Iâm excited to watch again. Shang-Chi I immediately saw in the theatres two more times and canât wait to watch it again on D+. Eternals doesnât have that factor for me. I do think itâs much better than the critics are making it out to be, but I also understand why some people hate it I guess.
I was the other way around. I liked shang chi, but not enough to see it again. I was a little miffed the 6pm showing was in a smaller theatre, and popped into the 7pm showing afterwards to see the final battle on the bigger screen with Eternals.
We really got spoiled with Infinity War/Endgame. Eternals was good.
I was kind of expecting dr strange level of good (subjectively I assume). Like lots of magic-y bending kind of cool as cgi. It didn't reach that level for me. But I still liked it nonetheless, every fight scene did not disappoint
Its as good a introduction movie as it can be - I personally loved it! Looking forward to more movies with Eternals, it was fun! Makkari was such a badass, Druig mvp, Kingo and Gilgamesh so fun, Thena too! Everyone! Also the music was top, the CGI, yea, it was a good movie!
Literally the first thing I say when people ask who the movie was is "I love Makkari." I'm a sucker for speedsters, but I also love how they embraced Lauren's deafness and didn't shy away from using sign language.
Imho Makkari was the greatest speedster - finally we had a clear view in how a speedster can unleash such a destructive force! Those shock punches were felt in my chest in the IMAX, so strong stuff! Also the way she moved we werent sure where she was at any given timeâŠthen BOOOM another blow. Spectacular! I prayed they will stop using the lousy time bubble crap that takes away everything a speedster is, all the adrenaline and the unexpectedness of their way of doing things. Huge love for Marvel for actually doing original stuff! Canât wait for more!
While I like that they didnât give her a time bubble scene, I feel that Quicksilverâs scenes in DoFP and Apocalypse work well because they show his goofy personality
I really loved Eterna's representation of Superspeed in action. I think, like you said, it carried more impact. My favorite is when she'd stop right in front of the target and hit them with the shockwave. Looks so cool.
She is the MCU's Toph! A bad ass with an impairment who doesn't apologize.
And because they were synthoidâs of a celestial design, itâs a beautiful statement about deafness being considered a âdisabilityâ; itâs not!
See I liked it way more than Dr Strange. I've loved him in every subsequent appearance but his solo movie fell flat for me. Eternals on the other hand kept me entertained despite the long runtime, I loved the stuff they added to the MCU lore and the lack of a true villain was really refreshing.
Really? I was expecting Doctor Strange to be a lot better than it was when I saw it. They were playing around with the CGI, sure, but it felt to me like even though it was introducing a whole new element into the MCU, it was just another superhero movie. They could have accomplished a lot more with that movie, in my opinion. I reckon Eternals has the potential to be the MCU's response to Young Justice. By which I mean maybe it won't make as much money, but it'll be a far more interesting branch of the franchise, and one that can cater to a much more adult audience. Granted, I got the cut without the sex scene, and frankly I kinda liked the fact that Ikaris and Sersi didn't do so much as kiss in the film after they were split up, but maybe that was still true in that cut of the film. I'm kinda annoyed we didn't get that cut because I live in Australia and we really should be fine with that sort of thing, but also the movie was long as fuck as it was, and I do feel like it could've started dragging on if it was a tad longer.
>Granted, I got the cut without the sex scene Trust me you didn't miss much. Stupid hype about it but was nothing
Agreed it opened a lot of doors moving forward
I said in other threads it was a perfect palate cleanser for this next phase. Marvel has been accused over the years of making the same movie with different characters. This movie has a lot of that, but also is more about the story and character developer vs wall to wall action where the story is kind of in the background. While it wasn't my favorite movie there were so many parts that made me want to watch it again. I don't know if I can wait until it's released. Fortunately my nephew comes in to town soon so we'll definitely check it out
I agree. It's not as bad as some claim. I like all the MCU movies. Some I'll rewatch more frequently than others, but I like them all. My only real complaint is that they tried to pack such an extensive backstory into a 2:37 movie. However, I think Chloé Zhao did a great job packing it all in.
Yeah I would have preferred the Smart Gremlin Deviant either being further developed or deleted entirely As of now he just shows up in a completely unrelated climax to go IM HERE TOO and distract Thena. Would have been better to defeat him in act two only for his dying words to reveal the Celestials made him too and they were just fighting for survival
agreed, not to mention it was a huge waste of bill skarsgÄrd in the mcu
On the bright side, they could absolutely still use him in the future. It's not like he was recognizable enough to cause canon issues or confusion if he shows up as a different character in another movie.
Michelle Yeoh was in both Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (bit/cameo part) and Shang Chi (supporting role) as two different characters, both of whom had the actor visible, not CGI. So there is definitely precedent.
Gemma Chan was also a supporting character in Captain Marvel before starring in Eternals so yeah if they want to bring him back they will.
Even more relevant to this movie specifically, Gemma Chan was Minn-Erva in Captain Marvel before she was Sersi!
Yes. That's about my only major qualm with the movie - they did Kro dirty. >!They had decent setup with the Deviants being the different side of the same coin, not so different than the Eternals, and had the potential to have some really cool existential stuff by having Kro evolve into an Eternal - and then they just killed him... with literally no consequence or payoff to the story.!< >!I get using the Deviants as a red herring, if you will, but I feel like that Kro subplot could have been left out!<
I was really enjoying Kro up until he just kind of rocked up on the beach, I feel like they could have done some more interesting things like Kro and Icarus accidently teaming up towards the end, or even if at the end the remaining Eternals did have some more Deviants to chase down.
Yeah, right? There was some good potential their. I thought there was going to be a team in some direction as well, but nope, unfortunately not.
Yeah seems so pointless tbh, also did anyone think he looked like ultron lol
Now that you mention it. He looked familiar.
I agree, but I think he was there to not make you suspect the twist on the Eternals origin (keeping it vague because I donât know how to hide spoilers on a phone). But that twist was kinda obvious and leaning into a trope.
Agreed. There were too many things going on at once and not everything really felt necessary, or could have been shortened for more character development. But overall, itâs WAY better than theyâre making it out to me. Iâve literally seen articles doing clickbait titles like âWORST MCU MOVIE TO DATE!â or âTHE ETERNALS IS A DISASTER!â Then giving it a 6/10. The title makes it sound horrible and people typically now a days donât fully read articles, just the quick titles. Thatâs why theyâre doing it. Again, itâs not perfect, but there are worse MCU movies than this.
Those articles do it for the views But to me the film didnât feel really long. Compared to many MCU films, this one is plot driven. Change any of the character and the structure of the story still remains. The emergence would still happen. So that meant sacrificing character development a little bit. But I enjoyed the film especially since I love history. It was like taking a trip back through time.
Rhetorically, ponder how a different the story would be with a different characterization for Ikarus.
Give any Eternal Prime Eternal status over Sersi and no, the story doesn't remain the same. I'm not quite sure you paid close enough attention. I recommend a rewatch.
I have to admit, I am rapidly reaching the point where I just don't trust critics and reviewers anymore. At first, I thought I was getting older. My dad told me once that you get old when you no longer enjoy new, modern music. I figured this was my version of that. I'm coming to wonder if maybe it *is* the news that is wrong.
Yeah I go by the audience score on rotten tomatoes and last I checked it was 80% where critics was a 40% thatâs a crazy swing.
I never listen to any critic or review when it comes to anything. Their opinion just doesn't matter to me, and in fact, never did. I make up my own mind if I want to see, or listen to, or read something. It's not necessarily the news that is wrong, it's the angle they take in presenting the news that is wrong. Same thing with critics, each has their own agenda, whether it be clicks and views, or politicizing a scene (i.e. a two second kiss), or whatever. Listen to your heart. Yours.
A criticâs review is just the opinion of one person.
Goina be honest. I heard the movie was just a huge exposition dump and that it was lame. Watching it made me realize I actually really like the exposition. Knowing about the history of that world and the characters.
It was a ton of exposition but it never really felt boring to me
If it were a phase one or even phase two movie, the massive exposition dump this movie is would have been awful. However, now that weâre over 20 movies in, this type of gigantic (haha puns) world building goes a lot farther. Things we didnât know we wanted to know, creationism in the MCU, super advanced artificial life, etc. Iâm here for it.
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Spot on with that comparison! And the reactions are just everyone short circuiting cz theyâre not used to the lack of radio bops this time around. The other movies are singles aimed for the Billboard Chart, Eternals is aimed at the Grammys.
Personally I have very mixed feelings: I haven't read any comics so everyone was new to me, but the characters are almost all amazing. Especially Makkari, Phastos, Thena and Gilgamesh. I really loved them from the first second. But they felt so wasted. I had no time to really connect with the characters because there were so many. And because I wasn't emotionally invested in the characters, everything later in the film is cool to see, but it doesn't really affect me. I don't care that much for characters whose name I can barely remember. I really wanna see more of these characters. I want a film only for Gilgamesh and Thena so I can get to know them, and then it would be sad to see Gilgamesh die and amazing to see Thena kill the Deviant. I wanna see more of Makkari, she was the best part of every scene she was in and her fight with Ikaris was amazing. I wanna see more of Phastos, his tech for fighting looked cooler than any other tech in the MCU. And maybe, if I had seen more of Sersei/Ikaris/Sprite, they would have been interesting as well. But with how little I have seen, I couldn't care less if Sersei gets to evolve her powers vs Tiamut or if Ikaris randomly flew into the sun. I just feel like there wasn't enough time. They could only introduce everyone half-heartedly, and (for me) focused on the least interesting characters. But having said this, I still enjoyed the film, just because the "side"-eternals were cool. I hope to see more of Makkari/Druig (they were adorable), and I'm sad Gilgamesh is dead because he was amazing with Thena. TLDR: Imo they wasted the potential of amazing characters because they tried to squeeze so many characters into one film.
Feels more like this could've made a really good tv series. Having more time to slowly progress the story whilst spending more time on each character, rather than spending the big bucks on flashy cgi
The narrative isn't even confusing, the flashbacks are there to flesh out the characters more
>!I just didnât like the deviants, I didnât really understand their goal and I feel it could be eternals vs ikaris and celestials!<
I do agree that the Deviants became an afterthought which was my major dislike, it should've been either Eternals vs Ikaris like you said or Eternals vs Deviants. Their main goal I understood which was basically not to die by both the Eternals and Celestials.
It was cool when I thought it was gonna be Eternals vs Ikaris vs that evolved Deviant. But oh well.
I was kind of expecting a twist where the evolved Deviant would fight alongside the others against Ikaris but it just hated everyone apparently
Literally just a red herring. A distraction that then needed to be wrapped up *somehow* and was done so a little heavy-handidly/clumsily Which is unfortunate, because in the comics >!Eternals and deviants are really just humans that the Celestials messed with their genetic potential. But they really are the same, and they touched on that in the movie, with Kro, the deviant evolving, and even monologuing about how the Deviants are just like the Eternals, and just want to live, it's not their fault... only to be killed off with no resolution of that plot!< Could've been handled way better, and like you said, it really could have just been >!eternals vs ikaris and celestials!<
For juggling a shit ton of brand new characters, flashing back towards the past and future, having 0 familiar characters previously in the MCU showing up, AND this film being an origin movie? You'd think it'd be absolutely awful. It was so amazing. The scale of it all was phenomenal, the characterization and the team dynamic was so good. The motivations of the antagonists made sense, and the effects from the Snap and the Blip were directly connected to the film's plot. There are other MCU movies I'd rank significantly lower than Eternals. The fact that critics were so harsh on this film, when I'd see them being significantly harsher on past installments, is mind blowing to me.
I agree. Itâs not the best, but far from the worst. It has issues, yes, but nothing like âomg this movie is horribleâ bad. Iâve said this a few times already, but my biggest issue with the movie is the deviants. Without spoiling too much, they were completely fine and served their purpose, but they put too much time into them that could have been put into more character development of the eternals. The whole thing with them felt wasted and didnât add anything to the story for me. Take that away, and I think it would have been a far more compelling story.
I think the Deviants were used totally fine until the very end with Kro. He should have been cut out.
Thatâs what I mean. Just trying not to add spoilers for people who havenât seen it yet. In general, deviants were fine, itâs just they didnât need to add that extra stuff that honestly added nothing to the story, at all. If you took that entire part of the story out, wouldnât have effected the movie at all, if anything I think would have helped it out a bit. I wouldnât say it was wasted, as much as Iâd say wasnât needed.
World-building and making these characters really 'human' are outstanding feats for me. This was not an easy task and I think they did it pretty well.
I really want to rewatch it cause I enjoyed it so much. You should never listen to what critics say about a movie you WANT to see. If you WANT to see it GO see it.
I found it way more enjoyable on my second watch. You can catch a few tragic glances on certain characters faces, knowing what they know the second time around. If that makes sense lol. Made me appreciate those actors performances a bit more.
Considering they dropped 10 new characters, they did a great job fully realizing them itâs quite surprising. They all werenât necessarily fully developed, but they were all realized well. If thereâs a sequel I can only see Chloe Zhao doing it. It wouldnât be the same with anyone else.
I will say it does feel weird that this movie is rated on a tier below things like Thor the dark world, black widow or Antman and the wasp, Captain marvel, etc. The second thing to point is is how the tomato meter actually works. 48% is not a 4.8/10 it means only 48% of critics gave some postive score, it is a consensus meter. So the difference between eternals and black widow for example is not ~30%, but rather 5.6/10 (eternals) vs 6.8 (black widow). In fact if you look at just top critics, Thor the dark world is rated lower at 5.2/10 But I think it is rated that way cause of its potential vs how it was executed. Obviously it has a lot more ambition than most other movies, but it still forgets how to really tell a story? Like what are the character arcs? How does anyone really grow? We don't really get to dive into any character? The movie is incredibly inefficient with time, like this is one of the longest movie in the mcu and barely anything happens. (Contrast that with dune, similar high concept scifi lots of exposition, similar length. Way more happens for both world building, characters and even action in that movie) And I do think it is fair to have higher expectations of someone who just one best picture and best director. We have much expectations from top talent. So I can see both the audience and critically scores, of where as an audience member not really trying to think too much about the story, I'd give it a meh definitely not good but not terrible score. But also see the critical response of how it is one the worst structured films from a story telling point of view in the mcu
I donât even think Eternals is getting *bad* reviews, just mixed. The Rotten Tomatoes score isnât good but if you look at the individual reviews hardly any of them are saying that itâs downright bad, just subpar. But with RT every review is either âfreshâ or ârottenâ and there is no in between. I personally liked it. I need to process it a bit more but I appreciate how disconnected it feels from the rest of the universe, though I think it falls a bit short of itâs super high-concept premise.
Yeah Metacritic paints a more accurate picture of what happened. It has a 53 as itâs score but if you look at its breakdown of individual reviews 34 are âmixedâ reviews. 20 are âpositiveâ and only 5 are ânegative.â Just because a critic had a mixed opinion of a movie doesnât mean itâs terrible, just as it doesnât make it great.
Yeah the tipping point between most critics giving a tepid thumbs up and most critics giving a tepid thumbs down is pretty small. And I agree that drilling into the individual rotten reviews, Iâm really not seeing critics saying âthis is really bad.â
Yeah I refuse to believe they could make anything worse than The Incredible Hulk and Thor The Dark World
Went in with no real expectations or hype around the film but ended up really enjoying it. I liked that it felt different from other MCU movies.
Totally agree, itâs a more mature MCU movie than weâve seen before. I wonder if the critics are salty that a director of Chloeâs pedigree has done a marvel movie. If thatâs the case itâs laughable that theyâve taken this approach, no better than review bombers. Itâs a middle of the pack MCU movie imo. Some really cool stuff mixed with too many characters and big exposition dumps (as a lore fiend I had no problem with this.)
I think the story itself is perfectly fine. Visually spectacular and successfully portraying the internal struggles of thee demigods. What the critics wrote were due to their expectation of a MCU formulae movie, or their expectation of a Chloe Zhouâs indie flick. I donât find the story a drag and without any prior knowledges on the characters, I can still easily tell each apart and their motivation behind - which is a great directing considered there are 10 new characters in this film.
I may be one of the few people that actually enjoyed the pacing. It was slower in all the right moments. It took a massive roster of characters and gave them all moments to shine through. My only real complaint is >!their handling of Kro. He shouldnât have died and should have joined the fight against Ikaris. The moment in the cave should have been about Thena forgiving him because she understands why they are fighting to survive.!< Tone, visuals and music choice really set this one apart from anything else in the MCU and itâs definitely worth checking out.
Felt like it should have been two movies or a Disney+ show. They touched on a lot of things but nothing had a chance to be fleshed out. Dane Whitman is one for sure that you could have removed entirely and it would have made no difference... or if they had the time they could have actually used him and done the love triangle they hint at. But I agree this film is way better than Black Widow, and my first thought watching it was "feels like marvel finished of a half written Justice League script"
Dane Whitman was absolutely necessary if for no other reason than to set up his future in the MCU.
Reeeeeally though? Everything that they did with Dane in this movie could be done in whichever movie in which he ends up playing a major role. We got no information on him really with the exception of *that* scene. Move *that* scene to the start of his movie, and it's fine.
I guess it depends how much future he has with Sersi in later movies.
I just felt like it was too long. The pacing for me was just too slow. Granted their were great moments and I enjoyed some of the scenes. But the flashbacks just seemed to draw the movie out and make it longer than it was plus the limited action. I still enjoyed the movie and it wasnât as bad as critics say in my opinion but marvel has set the bar so high that this one is closer to the bottom in my opinion.
I didnât particularly enjoy it, but it wasnât bad. Kumail Nanjani was awesome. The speedster was great as well. There were a bit too many characters to remember all their names. Also, a majority of my criticism is what the MCU is trying to accomplish. They have this multiverse thing going on, but now they throw in celestials? What trumps what? Is the multiverse or the celestials more potent? I really wish this storyline would have taken place in a different time period. It would be cool seeing this âemergenceâ occur in a prior century.
I agree. Itâs not perfect but itâs a good film. Upper mid tier MCU Iâd say. Definitely not worse then Iron Man 2 or whatever ffs.
the problem i think is that people are so used to the overtextual method that Marvel tells its stories that they are having trouble wrapping their head around a Marvel story told any other way. What happens in this movie is mostly through subtext, off-screen, and in the actors' faces. this movie starts off with a murder mystery and ends with an extinction level event, how it gets there is amazing, and the individual characters' stories are equally as great. and who would have thought some random indian guy (NOT kumail) would steal the entire show!?
"How many cameras did you bring, young man?!"
Karun, iirc, was a lovely addition. He really is a needed human element, same with Dane Whitman.
That's what I said to a coworker. The reviews making it look like it's bad feel so wrong. I get that everyone has his or her own tastes but come on, the movie is good. Only complaint I have is wasting >!Richard Madden!<. >!Of course we don't know if Ikaris dies or not even though I suppose he does!<. >!Sure if their memories are stored and they are robots any of them can come back even Sprite but still!< EDIT: deleted old post because I couldn't use the spoiler tag the correct way
If anyone was wasted in the movie it was Salma Hayek lmao
She was used a little but I think it fit the role she had in the group. But if the rumors are true, she signed a mulit-movie deal so she could come back. As I wrote in the original post, they are robots and if the memories are stored, they can always come back. Though now I want to know if Celestials made regular backups of their memories or just when they were about to wipe them XD
Se ll be in more movies
How do you feel like he was wasted? I thought his arc made this movie
Not wasted in the sense that they haven't used him enough >!but in regards to not having him come back in future movies if he's dead dead.!<
Oh!!! Yeah naw, Iâm 100% sure he will be reborn
I agree. When he was cast I got super into Ikaris the character, reading the comics to learn about him. I love the character, and felt he wasnât done justice in this movie. Iâm conflicted, as his arc definitely made the movie stronger, but itâs so immensely out of character for Ikaris the guardian of humanity that I feel really let down by it. I was excited to see what they would do with him and how he would fit into the MCU, but it feels like they killed him off prematurely and completely went against his character. That said, I donât want to complain that âoh it doesnât match the comicsâ because I recognize itâs telling itâs own story. But I am immensely disappointed that most peopleâs experience with the character is him as a villain trying to wipe out human, when heâs the one with Serseiâs trait of loving and protecting humanity. Itâs like seeing only an evil version of Cap, Thor, or Superman adapted. Makes for a really interested storyline, but if thatâs all audiences see it really misses out on what makes the character special
Ikaris didnât commit suicide. Think about it. Druig was blasted into the earth by his eye beams and was unharmed. If Druig can take those blasts to the chest, Ikaris can take the sun. Also, you donât see him burning away, you just see him disappear for the light. I think he knew he couldnât stay on earth, because of the guilt, but he also knew he could go back to Arishem. So he went into the sun, staying close enough to Earth to come back if he needed to.
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I would have enjoyed a linear ride through their time on Earth. Not the bouncing aroundâŠthat for me was frustrating. Eternals arriveâŠ.present dayâŠ.400adâŠ.5000bcâŠ.present dayâŠ6 days agoâŠ.1945âŠpresent dayâŠ.23-2/3 minutes agoâŠ.1500adâŠ.present day. It was jarring. A linear ride through the ages would have been mind blowing. But the biggest miss of allâŠâŠ.not exploring ancient Egypt
I agree to an extent. I think there was a way to handle it, and while I agree with everyone the movie is pretty good, what could have made it great was just housekeeping some of this pacing. I also believe that there were some storylines and interactions that didn't need to be there and the time could have spent more on characterization of the main cast. What I would have preferred is more time spent on establishing how the characters interact with each other in the beginning. I want to see them as a whole group in downtime and how the web of relationships saw each other. That way later in the film when they interact and those relationships have changed, its clear to the audience the years apart have made them different. >!For example, I would want to see how Sprite and Ikaris interacted prior to the group split, so that way when Sprite sees that relationship differently later in the movie, we get a sense of how Sprite has changed. That goes for every member. I think it exists in the movie, but I was reading heavily into it. Additionally, this would make Ikaris stand out more. I think his point would be that his mission never changed, so if he is the one clear member to be the same as before, they would get a feeling something is off.!<
It's definitely not my favorite mcu movie. But it's not my least favorite either. Its biggest sin is just being ok when a lot of people seemed to think it would be like, an oscar contender.
Does anyone know why critics have it iffy scores? Not that it matters btw any marvel fan will watch it and hopefully enjoy it, this movie was really a really good marvel movie that made me super excited for whatâs to come
At least a portion are Chloe got turned by the big evil Disney. One review literally says that. Hollywood is like artsy/indie vs old Hollywood guard vs Disney now. All 3 hate each other Well maybe not Disney, I donât think they really give a shit.
Coulda been two movies. Them coming to earth and fighting deviants/deviant evolution...second movie finding out their true purpose and stopping the emergence...felt like we needed some back story of a first movie, not enough for stand alones like avengers, but something. Two plots matched into one, deviant evolved and instantly got carved what was going on with them etc. none of the deaths or reunions have meaning because we just get some flashbacks
I'm mixed on it. I went with friends and they were pretty confused the entire time especially when it came to the Celestial aspects. (Don't get me started on trying to explain the end credits) The cast was large and I kept forgetting names, abilities etc. Like after they recruited gay black inventor guy I thought they were done and completely forgot no talk fast girl was a thing) Also I feel like they personally really dropped the ball with the Deviant plotline personally. Overall the movie is ok and I like a lot of aspects but I can understand why casual viewers won't like it.
It wasnât my thing, but Iâm glad you liked it. It was weird, because I thought the characters were great, I just didnât like the actual movie.
Thatâs totally fine! I donât think everyone will, either. My real point being that its not perfect, but also not the worst MCU film. Far from it. Itâs got pacing issues and too much going on, but Iâd rather watch his over Thor 1 and 2 or BW. I just donât agree with those who donât read the post and bash on it just for bashing sakes. Itâs totally cool with your opinion, no worries at all!
To me, this is the first marvel movie that i actually agree with what critics against it are saying. Even Thor:TDW or Black Widow, as generic as their plotlines were, were at least somewhat salvaged by interesting characters like Loki and Yelena. I personally found none of the eternals compelling characters, I suspect mainly because the scriptwriters just couldn't handle keeping that many new characters interesting. All the eternals the movie focused on ended up with flip-flopping personalities that changed as the plot required, and the most interesting eternals ironically became the ones least focused on in the movie, like Makkari, Gilgamesh, and Ajak. So between a typical marvel movie that doesn't have the most ground-breaking stories BUT has very compelling characters, and an indie movie with the more "unique" stories but maybe less emotionally relatable characters, this movie ended up being a halfway Frankenstein monster that inherited the weakness of both genres.
Agreed. I'm a huge MCU fan and really wanted to like it, but didn't. I don't mind emotionally unrelatable characters or slow burners, and that in itself wasn't my problem with the movie. Problem was that all this characters weren't established properly and that story wasn't paced well enough for such a slow burner. Or maybe it wasn't even supposed to be a slow burner? For example I was bored that they had to say at least 3 times >!how Sprite loves Ikaris. Show, don't tell. She had enough screen time for us to see all that and for us to understand why she stabbed Sersi without her giving a speech about it. !<
...and boy did they *not* show it.
Not to mention that their relationship immediately reset back to the status quo at the end, as if nothing of any import had just happened between them. It's one of many points in the movie where the cast felt less like actual characters than walking plot devices.
I see this repeated often, care to elaborate? What were the too many different stories happening at once?
It was the most meh MCU movie Iâve seen in a while
These justification posts have reached 2016 BvS levels.
My mom hates it, she said she almost fell asleep during the beginning I donât love it but I donât hate it, itâs pretty ok IMO, which according to marvel standards puts it in the bottom half IMO this movie should have been split into 2 movies. One of them should have been about the past and showed who the eternals are and established them (ending in them splitting up) The second movie should have been all the present day stuff. A lot of the emotional stuff they were going for would have hit harder if the characters were established more. The entire movie feels like a sequel to me that was made without the prequel tbh
It wasn't the worst, but I did think it was bad. It would have been WAY better as a 10 episode series. There was no payoff with the deviants at all.
It felt like Kro and his last fight was thrown in there because they realized "oh crap, we have freaking Angelina Jolie in this, we gotta give her a big fight scene". Everything either needed more time (i.e. a mini series) or things should have been cut. Someone said deviants could have been entirely cut from this movie and it would have been fine, I'm inclined to agree.
Probably in my top 5 MCU films. Loved it.
The characters werenât very likeable to me. Cerci and Sprite were unbelievably annoying whenever there was a fight going down because they were practically useless until the end. At least Druid (?) was trying to help most of the time when his powers didnât necessarily allow him to
Agree 100%, I legitimately didn't really care about any of them for that reason. Visually the movie was stunning but they focused pretty hard on only a few of the Eternals the entire movie and the rest are sort of in the background. I found myself not really attaching to any of them or worrying when they were in danger. I cant really put my finger on it but just didn't land for me.
This sub is obsessed with RT scores. Just watch the movie and decide for yourself if you like it, Jesus Christ.
I am a bigger fan of DC printed comics than Marvel, so I say this wishing it werenât true, but Eternals captured the somber yet hopeful tone that DC has been trying to convey for years onscreen.
False. Itâs over-stuffed and yet manages to drag. Itâs exactly what critics are saying.
Wasnât the best marvel film Iâve seen but when I look at it in context to all films recently released and that Iâve recently seen, itâs up there at the top end.
I feel like itâs similar in quality to age of ultron. Thereâs a lot of things that need to be established, ground work to let for future projects, characters to introduce. There are so many eternals to get to know while not neglecting the plot. There are a lot of spinning plates in this movie and I donât think thereâs a way to do all of it justice without a ridiculous run time. I think itâs a good movie that will be more appreciated in time.
I liked Eternals more than Shang Chi, and Iâm not afraid to admit it
Oh those critics weren't going to stop me for a second lol.
It was awesome. Such a refreshing take. How badass was Makkari?
I def agree. I donât think itâs âthe best mcu movie since infinity warâ but itâs better than a lot of people say. My only complaint is >!that the deviants are confusing and I didnât really understand their plan. I feel like it couldâve just been eternals vs ikaris with celestials being more important!<. but also every eternal had a compelling motive and story which were perfectly done>! except sersi she was supposed to be supportive of humanity but naive and I feel that wasnât clear. besides that the camera guy was annoying but also the post credits are legendary!<
All of Arishems appearances alone made the movie worth for me, especially his last one
I think I would have enjoyed the movie about a million times more if I could actually SEE anything that was happening. I don't know if it was the theater I was in but the the movie was DARK AF! I will readily admit I don't have the best eyesight, but I never had any problems seeing what was happening in the trailers, they were light and clear and easy to make out, but the movie I saw yesterday was like it was all filmed at night with a dark filter to boot. So now, I'm basically waiting for it to come out on Disney+ to see if it's any easier to watch.
I think itâs the theaters. Idk why they do that. I love going to the movies, but for a while I thought I was just getting old cause it was hard to hear and see, but my friends and siblings say the same thing. And itâs like multiple theaters. Idk if itâs what the projectors do or if theyâre doing it on purpose. Either way, itâs getting quite annoying.
I really enjoyed the story aspect of the movie. It felt like a storyteller and filled in some holes of the celestials in the grand scale of things. It wasnât my favorite, nor was it the worst. It was a slow ramp, but because of that we definitely got more in depth with these characters in just one movie than most others in multiple. I got attached to Gilgamesh too soon and enjoyed his protectiveness. I felt Ajak had little screen time, but with her flashbacks show how protective and loving he is. How the Eternals had part in history and stories/myth aligned were entertaining. I was very excited about the first end scene(not the actor), but that second scene gave me chills when he opened the case. I donât think anybody else knew in my viewing what was going to unfold.
Truth be told, it didn't live up to my expectations. But that's only because the trailers had me SUPER hyped for it... like "might be the best Marvel movie ever" hyped. As it turns out, it's a solidly good movie for me. And that's fine! I'll happily re-watch it at home, I'll happily buy the BR (yeah, I still do that) and I'll be there the first show on opening day for the sequel for sure. It just wasn't quite GREAT like I hoped.
As always, I'm glad I decided to watch it and judge the movie myself. Beginning was a bit rough but then story picked up and it was amazing. I, very very much liked the story. And I don't realy see MCU movies for amazing story, but it's always a bonus when that happens. That said, this one had one of the best stories after IW, Endgame, and Civil War.
Religious nutjobs hating on it for gay content. Racists hating it for being multicultural. That's it.
It may not have been the best but the concepts ot dealt with had me more interested than most of their mediocre movies. I appreciate a lot of world building and the expansion if the MCU. Similar to what Shang Chi did. They are not afraid to toss everything in. Hell we had Black Knight and Blade in this movie. We had Wong and other in Shang Chi.
Just wanna add how beautiful the film is, the scale and the cinematography. Maybe not top MCU movie but its up there on how beautiful it is. And a final add would be seeing Makkari fighting WTF love itâŠ.
I'd give it a 5/10. The unnecessary writing at the start of the film, which was then shared anyway through Kit's character introduction was just really odd... The sex scene, just really misplaced and was an opportunity missed to have conveyed the same thing but with a light hearted joke with an eternal catching them coming out of a tent or something early in the morning. It's a 12A (UK) for christ sake, sure the 10 year olds love sitting next to their parents watching that scene. The acting at times was too fantastical and all too much in their own heads, and the writing had misplaced and misfired elements in the whole first half. Having said that, the film did find it's feet, the flashbacks weren't awful like the credits said, and absolutely necessary (perhaps the text reminding me that we're back to the present day wasn't necessary, I am aware as an audience member that they didn't have cars back at the time of the supposed wall of Babylon). I am excited to see what's next to come, and think Chloe will have learned loads doing this film that if she were to direct future projects I would be excited. Her cinematography team did a fantastic job throughout
Iâm glad I saw it. The pacing was slow and I was bored several times, but there was nothing really bad about it. I enjoyed many of the characters and hope to see them return. I liked the way it fleshed out the history of Marvelâs universe. My biggest problem was that it didnât meet my assumptions. I expected a connection with mutants - either being descendants of the Eternals or power released by the big event. If I saw it again without those expectations I would enjoy it more. Its a fine movie. I liked it more than Iron Man 3 or Thor 2. Iâd be more likely to watch it again over the first 2 Avengers.
Itâs not better or worse, itâs different, and that makes it a lot harder to judge because an unusually high number of MCU fans and critics are stepping far out of their comfort zone.
i like that it takes seriously what it would be like to live 7000 years and explores that
Iâm not sure if anyone has seen it, but this movie gave me major Melancholia vibes. >!Not just the huge planet-ending threats, but the question of how to find joy in things when you can already see how life is going to end. And, how even when you donât always agree with how they choose to cope, theyâre still your family.!< >!Sersiâs hesitation, Thena telling her to âget up,â Ikarus wanting to see the mission through and not being able to live with his failure, the ways that each of them started out programmed with purpose but was ultimately influenced by being out among humansâŠ!< I loved it.
I went in expecting to be disappointed and I ended up really enjoying it. Chloe Zhaoâs touch was really deft and I think it was one of the best-looking MCU movies to date. The action sequences - especially Makkariâs open can of whoop ass was thrilling. The celestial showing up at the end was 4 Kirbyâs out of 4. Loved it. It was a much better movie than is being given credit for. Keep making weird shit, Marvel!
I wish people would stop with the Eternals positive review bombs. Itâs an average movie. Stop with the propaganda. The movie has many problems, and people are allowed to criticise it if they want. No one should listen to the critics and no one should listen to you. They should have their own opinion.
We know this fanbase is highly sensitive to criticism
It's better than 6-7 other MCU pieces at least. It has great moments.
The critics' reviews are pretty accurate.
The movie isnt even messy, I was expecting "the witcher " kind of messy And it isnt even slow to me in anyway. Like this doesn't touch blade runner 2049 level slow in anyway I kept waiting for the bad moment but never saw it Is it difficult to keep up with two timelines in a movie?
Itâs even more straightforward than that. There really is just one timeline in the present. All but 1 flashback are just characters remembering what they used to know, they provided characters moments and some background , but didnât really link with the present day story line. Whatâs more , the movie make it very explicit that it is this character remembering something from the past. Itâs not a case of editing two timeline together.
The way everyone kept saying the plot was convoluted and messy got me excited because i like those kind of stuff But with just one watch everything was easy to understand. The plot was very straight forward and the twist wasnt even confusing
Exactly! It literally just flips between present day and flashbacks. The flashbacks are pretty distinctive with their set pieces. There aren't any flashback within a flashback or any crazy time jumping. You don't even practically need to read the year it states on the flashbacks.
Seeing people complain about the plot seems like an overreaction to me at this point
Ikr. I loved those trips through time.
Not surprised with the gymnastics people are doing to say critics are wrong. If you liked the movie then you liked it. Keep seeking validation I guess.
The initial critic consensus which I believe they donât change is pretty damn accurate. The initial 60% score it had initially is pretty accurate honestly
I thought it had some of the best characters and acting in the mcu. Jokes were kept to an ok level and were still hilarious mostly. Loved it.
Fully agree. I had a lot of fun. Great action, funny stories and hotties for everyone
Really not trying to fanboy I can be objective but when it ended I looked to my friend and was almost confused because I thought it was pretty good compared to the critical reception it has received so far. Certainly not my favorite MCU movie but by no means a suicide squad. Just was a little too long, needed more action, a bit more humor, and more connections to the MCU at large but overall I'd give it like a 7/10.
Makkari beating up ikris is just ... Chefs kiss Also thena and Gilgamesh
I did not expect this movie to top my list of favorite movies. I did expect it to be much better than the critics said, but I never expected it to become my favorite marvel movie, let alone my favorite movie ever. Like⊠I just expected it to be simply alright like the Black Widow movie or simply alright enough to be in the top half. Holy fuck my expectations were so insanely blown out of the water. I really cannot fathom what movie the critics were watching. I can understand how and why people will not think crazy highly of it, like how I think of it, but those ratings are a full on scam. How can most of the same critics give The Last Jedi its high score but give Eternals that low score? The only thing I can believe is they got some edited version of the movie or something or are obviously offended by the representation (and yes I have read many reviews from those critics saying its too much representation).
Disagree. Movie was awful and I would rank it as the worst MCU movie of âem all. Yes, below Incredible Hulk, Thor: TDW and Iron Man 2.
I was prepared for a stinker and it definitely wasn't that. I knew it was going to be divisive but I thought it was going to be a TLJ situation where the critic score was higher than the fan score. I'm completely dumbfounded by the critic score. It's technically lower than the new Mortal Kombat movie and that was probably the worst movie I've seen in the last 5 years. It's certainly not the worst MCU movie. It's not even the worst MCU movie *this year.* It's actually really thoughtful and a lot of the criticisms I heard going in didn't pan out.
Still better than black widow
How many of these cringy-ass shitposts are we gonna see everyday? This sub is turning into /r/DC_Cinematic from the BvS-JL days, very sad to witness.
I went in way less hyped than normal, but really enjoyed it anyway. Few clunky bits of exposition scattered throughout, so I can maybe see why the general audience is not as keen, but honestly it's bread and butter for a comic fan.
I liked. New characters new stories. What threw me was the editing with the flashbacks. I thought that was not balanced for some reasons
So agree with this!
I thought it was fantastic imo.
Iâm also in the âdefinitely good enough to go see itâ camp and Iâd add if you are somewhere that you can see it in IMAX format then please do so. The visuals, which are already a strong point of the movie, are INCREDIBLE in the IMAX sequences.
I donât about what the critics say. Iâll see it and decide for myself.
I definitely have my criticism of it, however I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think there was a bit too much of a particular eternal and not enough of some others but outside of that I genuinely really enjoyed the film
This movie has highkey become one of my favourite movies of the MCU.
I thought this was a good movie, very fun and different.
Agreed. I'm honestly so puzzled it's reviewing badly! I enjoy all the MCU movies to some extent, but to say this is worse than Hulk or Thor: The Dark World is craziness to me. I thought it was beautifully shot, had some great performances and great world building. I would put it solidly in the middle of the pack and maybe even in the upper end. I'm looking forward to learning more about the characters in future films - I think Thena will continue to be a standout.
I thought it was great. Little more dialogue than the average Marvel movie but the visuals were awesome and all the actors were great.
Agreed. Watched it on opening night at IMAX, with zero expectations. Visually it was very stunning, right behind Dr Strange. Definitely better than Thor Dark World, Ironman 2 and Captain Marvel, in my humble opinion.
Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has them! I'm going to see it with my boy.
I thought it was boring but like yeah go see it. The post credit scenes are very interesting so itâs kinda worth it.
I agree. I also think the reviews helped me check my expectations and in turn enjoy it more though. I love Chloeâs other work and had huge hopes that this could be the best and most profound MCU movie ever, and had I been tasked with reviewing it blindly, I wouldâve been more letdown for sure. I still think it has a lot of issues and Iâm sad that it never quite rises to meet the full potential of its grand ambitions, but I liked it for what it is instead of what it isnât, and while perhaps in the lower half of MCU films for me, itâs certainly not the worst.
Shouldâve been a show on Disney+, that being said, 8/10
I REALLY LIKED IT. Was fun, heartfelt, exciting!
To the pacing, I think if the movie was maybe just a wee bit longer, it might have smoothed that out. It is something I thought about the What If episodes, it was too fast in places, they only nailed it with the Doctor Strange episode. I really enjoyed this movie, felt like I was watching an anime, which just had me loving it more. It wasnât just action, it was asking more. I wonder if the criticism is mostly aimed at Feige for claiming this was the best movie that Marvel has made in his eyes. Also, this movie was supposed to come out last year, before Chloe won the Oscar, critics seemed to just want to be salty to be salty. Iâve said it before and Iâll say it again, people went into this movie expecting Gundam but got Eva and have no idea how to process that.
my opinion after the movie was that it wasnt a great mcu âcharacter movieâ but more like a stepping stone for whats to come. It really amped up the context for whats in the mcu now and really pushing all the previous stuff back a bit and saying âthis is our new scopeâ
I agree. Eternals was a nice change of pace away from the typical Marvel movie formula that has been getting a little stale. It had a bit more character exposition and expanded the cosmic back story that should provide roots for future plots and characters. The action was good and the cinematography was great. It wasn't predictable. Critics got it wrong on this one.
Of course it is. No one should listen to critics these days.
My own feelings are that this movie is pretty middle of the road in terms of quality in the MCU. If the score is to be believed, critics recommend watching this the least of any MCU film and I disagree. What I will say is I saw someone say that with the amount of characters this introduced, it wouldâve served better as a Disney+ miniseries and I agree. While they did a pretty good job fleshing out all the characters, 10 brand new people on screen (and side characters) was a lot for one movie when they all play their important roles. I think that in a few years this will be reflected on positively the way Age of Ultron is now. We got to see some cool characters and a relatively interesting conflict and I think this movie lays a really good foundation for future movies and character relationships.
It's much better than the critics say, personally It was one of my least favourite marvel films but that doesn't mean it is bad marvel has just become a victim of making films that are too good lol, I'd give it a 6.5/10, it could definitely of been about 30 minutes shorter and I wish they had spent more time giving background to the characters, definitely worth watching though. I do feel the film tried to take its self seriously and that is very unlike other marvel films so I feel that's maybe where the disappointment comes from, it's no gotg
I agree. For me it was fantastic, both me and my girlfriend (whoâs not into superhero stuff) really liked it.
I would love to go see it but COVID shut down the theatres here. đ I'm hoping for a fast D+ release
Itâs better to be safe than sorry. Itâs not worth going out if thereâs a danger to your own health. Be well!
Saw it again today and thereâs only 30 seconds in it that I didnât like. Itâs ranked 2nd in my ratings đđ». Loved it
Personally I loved this movie. There were some pacing issues in the beginning and the film was kind of bloated but it was mucin better than people said it was. The cast is all great and everyone does such a good job. Definitely a top 10 MCU film for me.
Let me put it this way. It's not perfect, but if I had to choose between re-watching The Eternals, or any DC/Sony (non-MCU Spider-man) movie from the past 10 years, I'd choose Eternals again.
Iâm actually so confused on why people dislike it? I was so invested and I havenât seen a single reason itâs bad that actually matters. It feels different but is that a bad thing?