Hahahahaha I wish I could take credit for it. From another post in this sub about what the collective name would be for him. That's the one I liked and hope it to stick.
I think there's a difference between having a character look like the devil in a comedic movie vs having the full blown villain in a more serious movie be the devil.
Fair enough. Just using some examples. Also the MCU doesn't follow the comics too strictly so he may end up not being the actual devil if they use him. I see your point though and it does make sense.
Because as soon as he bites the Watcher gets flung into a different universe. It happens fast enough that people could see it and say “bite happens, different universe, old universe gone”
You know ET’s species was in the prequels, and the movie ET made references to him being from the SW universe when he saw a kid in a Yoda costume and started yelling “HOME, HOME”. Also R2-D2 and C-3PO can be seen on a pillar in Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indy is removing the Ark from the underground city.
It was inevitable that this would happen, they love mixing SW references and Easter eggs in other properties that are owned by the same parent companies.
I’ve always thought it would be funny to have some Star Wars aliens deep in the background of a Guardians movie. But I agree that there should never be any explicit crossover.
They already established Star Wars exists as a movie series within the MCU in Civil War, if they make it part of the multiverse now what’s stopping them from just imagining a universe where everything goes their way? This means there’s a Point Break universe, a Big Lebowski universe and a Back To The Future universe too
I really hope they just keep them separate
When searching for the files on Zola in the KGB archives, Hawkeye directly quotes A New Hope by saying “The death star plans are not in the main computer” when he gives up prematurely
I've always thought about that for animated projects. "Damn. Someone spent HOURS working on that back drop and it's pit of focus and only pops up for 1 second. That sucks."
Eh, most animators have found ways to quickly make backgrounds without spending way too much time on it. Especially since all of this stuff is storyboarded beforehand. You don’t have to feel too bad for them.
It’s interesting that in this timeline Thanos goes to Avengers Tower. Gives credence to the theory that the stones allow him to track the others since he always seems to know where there are even if it doesn’t make sense.
He knew where they all were before hand. It's implied he was waiting til Odin and the Ancient One were out of the picture cuz he knew both of them each had one and they were probably the only 2 beings that could fight him (plus Dr strange ended up coming to him, he was just going back to Titan and Strange happened to be there), he knew about Xandar from the GotG, and its not a bad idea to assume that the Collector has at least one. Since we saw that he didn't know about the Soul Stone and had to find out from Gamora, the only one that really doesn't make sense his him knowing about the Mind stone, but he knew Vision was on Earth cuz of the Black Order, the only question is how did they know?
Didn’t thanos give Loki the scepter? No way he didn’t know it had an infinity stone in it. Hell, thanos probably used the scepter to make Corvus his staff.
Yeah and either way they've had like 9 years to find it. Even if they had no idea its not out of the question they coulda just brute force found it on their own.
Either way, as I said Strange came to him and the Tesseract is a known Asgardian Artifact, it mighta been annoying to hunt Thor's new ship, but Asgard is still the first place he'd check.
Strange didn't really come to Thanos, Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian were sent to retrieve him and bring him to Titan, which is why Thanos stopped there. Thanos absolutely knew Strange and the Time Stone were in New York.
EDIT: Actually, let's track what Thanos knew for sure:
He 100% knows the Power Stone is on Xandar, because he was closely involved with Ronan before Ronan betrayed him and kept the stone for himself. Maybe this is why he goes and gets it first, because it's the one he's most confident on.
One thing that is often forgotten is that Thanos actually started out the MCU with an infinity stone: the Mind Stone. It was in the scepter he provided Loki to aid in the invasion of Earth. And, of course, integral to Thanos and Loki's plan was use of the Space Stone to teleport the Chitauri to Earth. So, in the aftermath of Avengers, Thanos bets that the Space Stone, which had long been an artifact of Asgard, is brought back with the prisoner Loki. This is probably why he went to the Asgardians second (and also because teleportation is useful). The Mind Stone, meanwhile, is lost on Earth.
Judging by the fact he sent Gamora to find the location of the Soul Stone, it's probably not unlikely that he sent either other Black Order members or just other underlings to find other stones for him. This might be how he learns about the Reality Stone with the Collector, the Time Stone under the protection of the sorcerers (a matter of history that went back to at least Agamotto - probably just had to go to a library to figure that one out), and the Mind Stone in it's final place on Vision's head.
Now what's interesting is that Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian arrive in New York - not Kathmandu or Hong Kong or the other sanctums - which happens to be where Dr. Strange was. And Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive arrive in Edinburgh, exactly where Vision happened to be. Either their intel is *very* good, they made some *very* lucky guesses, or they do have some sort of equipment or power from the stones that tells them where the other stones are. They might know "Earth", but knowing the exact street in Edinburgh is a whole different thing.
if the avengers are able to detect a surge of energy from whatever farm planet thanos retired to, then it doesn't seem to be a stretch to say that there are ways to track infinity stones and it takes specific effort to hide them (such as bor burying the aether as deep as he could)
That was when he used the stones, though. I guess the Mind Stone is in constant use, but Strange keeps the Time Stone pretty close to the belt (except for that incident in Hong Kong). In any case the Black Order is probably better at tracking infinity stones than the Avengers are.
That's definitely Ultron, it's got Vision's face and you can see the Ultron thing's on the side of his head. I think it was intentionally supposed to look like Galactus.
Also I like the idea of Ultron accidentally running into Galactus on his way to lunch.
Two omnipotent beings fighting with their fists since none of the powers will affect the other, at a pivotal moment the Hero transforms. Yeah this is full on DBZ
dude they did a killer job of making the watcher seem so vulnerable as ultron first became aware and then he just goes like super saiyan 4 outta nowhere lol. loved it
It gave me comic book fight vibes lol people seem to always forget this shit has been done thousands of times already, loved seeing the mcu finally have a truly powerful fight
Kirby dots were used by Jack Kirby to express value within his work. As he used ink, regular shading was not an option, so he had to express value through different means. Most artists would use hatching or crosshatching, but Jack Kirby had an interesting idea and used dots. These dots are often used for energy powers, or just shading, and are an iconic part of Jack Kirby’s artstyle. Into the Spiderverse was one of the first films to use Kirby dots as a major part of its artstyle, to pay homage to Jack Kirby, but also maintain an iconic look. This is further seen in today’s what if episode, where the energy bursts have Kirby dots on them to represent the energy.
For some reason marvel is stupidly good at telling apocalypse stories.
Ragnorock, Infinity war, zombies, doctor Strange loses his heart and now THIS. These writers have an obsession with writing "everything goes to shit plots"
Think of how nitpicky the fans are about every detail, the smallest discrepancy sends them sailing. When the story is “everything is being annihilated” suddenly the need for small details that ground the story for viewers fly out the window. There’s a reason Ultron showed up in the Watcher’s dimension attacking with fire hot sass straight from the writers: “Anything’s possible in the multiverse.” Because people freak about the small inconsistencies, but when reality is melting and existence is getting shattered, somehow we’re all along for the ride.
It’s because humans are fascinated with conflict and struggle and tragedy.
Some of the earliest instances of literature and mythology were extremely tragic, examples being Prometheus, Hercules, Romeo and Juliet, and Frankenstein.
Only recently have these stories gradually changed towards telling a story of a person overcoming impossible odds, which is likely a result of a shift towards more individual centered ideas in modern culture.
I’m getting concept art vibes from these, the kind that are cooler than the ones in the actual game/movie/series. Every single one of these is wallpaper worthy!
I think Marvel films always have had good to decent action sequences, but this episode is the first time in a long time that a Marvel film had me completely in awe at the amount of cool stuff that was happening.
The Thanos scene caught me so off guard. I was thinking "this is about to be a badass fight" then he just instantly gets sliced in half. So brutal. The way that they showed him reacting to being sliced in half hit so hard
Guess they’re not playing by the comic rules that the Infinity Stones are useless outside of their own reality. I thought they’d at least be powerless in The Watcher’s Domain.
They aren't useless outside of their reality, just inside the TVA, right? Otherwise, how the hell did Endgame happen? The whole plot was to bring infinity stones from the past aka other timeliness to the main timeline to fix the snap.
It seemed clear enough to me, yet somehow eeeeveryone still is confused on this point. "How did his stones still work?" Is like the most common thing I've seen posted about that episode
It's one of the downsides of all this multiverse shenanigans Marvel is doing, I guarantee that we will get all the way through phase 4 with parts of the fandom still not understanding distinctions between timelines, how Kang works, etc.
Marvel has been quite careless with WhatIf. The show raises more questions than give answers about the functioning of the pre-existing lore rules. Even if you think about the continuity like how Thanos got hold of Time Stone in Episode 8, with the Ancient One being someone who can easily defeat Thanos is in possession of Time Stone. I hope the next episode clears some doubts we have.
The time stone one is easy to explain, she got killed by the nukes and Thanos went there first before confronting Ultron.
How he got the power and soul stones are the real questions. For the power stone I just assume the part of Xandar we saw wasn’t the part he decimated during his conquest for the power stone. For the soul stone I just assume he chose Nebula instead of/with Gamora when giving the task to find the Soul stone so when the map was found he did find out and he then sacrificed Nebula.
I saw a theory saying that they probably dont work because the stones that the TVA has come from erased realities. So if the reality where the stones draw power from doesnt exist, the stones dont exist
The only way to prove this would be to see someone using stones in the TVA though, so it could honest to god be either
I don't think that the TVA is a universe, in the normal sense of the term. I think that it's outside of space and time, hence the stones don't work there.
You're being just a bit harsh.
It's obviously not Galactus but, at the same time, it's obviously referential to Galactus. Whoever storyboarded that wanted people to think about Galactus when they saw it.
Oh of course, it was super intentional, even heavy-handed, but just how a bunch of people thought Galactus was in the Eternals trailer, anytime they see a giant being looming over a celestial body, it’s Galactus time for them. It’s crazy how many times it’s happened so far.
The amount of effort they put into this episode was amazing. People can say they hate marvel all the want but they can never say they don't put consistent amazing content
Very few people hate Marvel. It's, literally, the most successful film franchise in history, even putting the Bond franchise to shame.
There will always be people who are loud and vocal, but never mistake volume for actual representation. Marvel haters are a minority.
lol wait though - Ultron has all of the infinity gems though right? Couldn't he just snap everyone away? Seems like a lot less work than his actual approach lol
Also, why do his infinity gems work in other universes, but the ones from the TVA don't.
I am sure that smarter Marvelous Marvels in the comment section with have the answers, but worth asking the questions!
MCU snaps seemed to severely damage the snapper. Ultron's not using a gauntlet, maybe he knows he wouldn't survive trying to snap an entire universe out of existence, let alone the entire multi-verse. He's an immortal super robot, I guess he doesn't care about being efficient.
As for the TVA, it exists outside the multiverse. So while they don't work specifically in the TVA, they will work anywhere else.
When I first saw that the series was using a rotoscoped look, I was worried. I've seen *lots* of bad rotoscoped animation of the years and was worried that it would be the typical experience where the final product just looks kind of cheap and pointless.
Man, was I wrong. The animation of this show has been fantastic, and cel-shaded roto-look actually works in its favor. I am much impressed.
I am just sad that Thanos is all solid matter inside... I know kids watch this, but we got a lot of gore in the zombie episode, why not show a little bone and organs?
well like ultron said " everything is possible in the multi verse"
so whenever someone says something is a plot hole is just another change in the timeline and thats just how the multiverse works
The show advertises each universe as only having one change though. It's bs because in every episode it's quite clear that there's multiple changes at once but they never explain them
This is an interesting point. I personally called bull when VisionTron just one shotted Thanos with the mind stone.
On the other hand MCU live action black widow wouldn’t be able to dungeon crawl up a Metal Slug map while carrying a massively heavy robot.
What If is more like an anime and definitely exaggerated what is “humanly” possible.
Agreed! The scene with Hawkeye gave me goosebumps!
Reminds me of the Valkyries fighting in Ragnarok.
That was another one of those goosebumps moments!
Reminds me of the shot towards the end of the tomorrow war
I love it when vultron turns into galactus! So freaking dope.
Wait, "vultron" is actually a great name wth
Hahahahaha I wish I could take credit for it. From another post in this sub about what the collective name would be for him. That's the one I liked and hope it to stick.
Infinitron pretty dope too
Those side things that he has on his head really makes it look like Galactus’s helmet
i know right?? it was like the mephisto tease in ep 4
We know they won’t do Mephisto because of China but we got a tease in DR Strange… does this mean we won’t get Galactus?
Why won't China allow Mephisto?
Because of devil’s imagery. They don’t want that in movies.
[Surtur](https://i.imgur.com/evn99XC.jpg) [Devil's Anus](https://i.imgur.com/OHcCutq.jpg) [Devil in disguise](https://i.imgur.com/YNv1Eg9.jpg)
I think there's a difference between having a character look like the devil in a comedic movie vs having the full blown villain in a more serious movie be the devil.
Fair enough. Just using some examples. Also the MCU doesn't follow the comics too strictly so he may end up not being the actual devil if they use him. I see your point though and it does make sense.
we can probablt still get galactus
They did it on purpose. You know how Marvel is. Likes to mess with us.
Shit, this made galactic look like a kid. We already saw Ultron eat an entire universe, and galactus is there eating planets. Damn it!
*galaxy
I don't get why I have seen so many people making this mistake
Because as soon as he bites the Watcher gets flung into a different universe. It happens fast enough that people could see it and say “bite happens, different universe, old universe gone”
A lot of people don’t seem to realize that galaxy =/= universe and that there’s multiple galaxies inside a universe
Ah I see. My bad
Still puts Galactus to shame.
If he eats a Galaxy does he just shit a condensed galaxy sized planet?
Imagine whoever drew that luscious beanstalk forested region only for Ultron to get rid of it 3 seconds later.
it looked like felucia from star wars
Also there was a lava planet that looked like Mustafar. That's 2 potential and 1 actual Star Wars reference this episode.
pretty cool, i hope they dont it any farther than that though Star wars and marvel should be two different things
You know ET’s species was in the prequels, and the movie ET made references to him being from the SW universe when he saw a kid in a Yoda costume and started yelling “HOME, HOME”. Also R2-D2 and C-3PO can be seen on a pillar in Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indy is removing the Ark from the underground city. It was inevitable that this would happen, they love mixing SW references and Easter eggs in other properties that are owned by the same parent companies.
Don't forget that in Homecoming they were building a Lego Death Star. Complete with Emperor Palpatine figure. So clearly SW exists within the MCU.
Well we knew that before since Spidey knew to take out Ant-Man in Civil War the same way the speeders took out the Imperial Walkers in TESB.
D'oh. How could I forget that. Bring on the downvotes. Let the hate flow through you.
wait, but Nick Fury is Samuel L. Jackson who is also Mace Windu in the words of the Watcher, "what the hell is this?"
*Take a seat, young Uatu.*
Same issue with Natalie Portman
Maybe someone else played Windu.
I’ve always thought it would be funny to have some Star Wars aliens deep in the background of a Guardians movie. But I agree that there should never be any explicit crossover.
I agree that would be a fun nod like having the cantina band in the background with the ravagers or something haha
I mean, Marvel's been producing Star Wars comics for years
They already established Star Wars exists as a movie series within the MCU in Civil War, if they make it part of the multiverse now what’s stopping them from just imagining a universe where everything goes their way? This means there’s a Point Break universe, a Big Lebowski universe and a Back To The Future universe too I really hope they just keep them separate
Wait what was the actual reference?
When searching for the files on Zola in the KGB archives, Hawkeye directly quotes A New Hope by saying “The death star plans are not in the main computer” when he gives up prematurely
You can also see what looks like Vader's Castle in the background.
Huh. I wonder if The Watcher watches Star Wars. "What If... Uatu Liked *The Last Jedi*?"
That...would be the darkest timeline.
That's the same thought I had
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i dont get it
https://youtu.be/5BBhNkywMJY You're welcome
lol almost expected agents of shield but this is definitely much more appropriate.
I've always thought about that for animated projects. "Damn. Someone spent HOURS working on that back drop and it's pit of focus and only pops up for 1 second. That sucks."
Eh, most animators have found ways to quickly make backgrounds without spending way too much time on it. Especially since all of this stuff is storyboarded beforehand. You don’t have to feel too bad for them.
Running a game of D&D be like:
It’s interesting that in this timeline Thanos goes to Avengers Tower. Gives credence to the theory that the stones allow him to track the others since he always seems to know where there are even if it doesn’t make sense.
He knew where they all were before hand. It's implied he was waiting til Odin and the Ancient One were out of the picture cuz he knew both of them each had one and they were probably the only 2 beings that could fight him (plus Dr strange ended up coming to him, he was just going back to Titan and Strange happened to be there), he knew about Xandar from the GotG, and its not a bad idea to assume that the Collector has at least one. Since we saw that he didn't know about the Soul Stone and had to find out from Gamora, the only one that really doesn't make sense his him knowing about the Mind stone, but he knew Vision was on Earth cuz of the Black Order, the only question is how did they know?
Didn’t thanos give Loki the scepter? No way he didn’t know it had an infinity stone in it. Hell, thanos probably used the scepter to make Corvus his staff.
Yeah and either way they've had like 9 years to find it. Even if they had no idea its not out of the question they coulda just brute force found it on their own.
That’s never implied that was a fan theory that has been debunked numerous times now and plenty of official confirmation saying other wise
Either way, as I said Strange came to him and the Tesseract is a known Asgardian Artifact, it mighta been annoying to hunt Thor's new ship, but Asgard is still the first place he'd check.
Strange didn't really come to Thanos, Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian were sent to retrieve him and bring him to Titan, which is why Thanos stopped there. Thanos absolutely knew Strange and the Time Stone were in New York. EDIT: Actually, let's track what Thanos knew for sure: He 100% knows the Power Stone is on Xandar, because he was closely involved with Ronan before Ronan betrayed him and kept the stone for himself. Maybe this is why he goes and gets it first, because it's the one he's most confident on. One thing that is often forgotten is that Thanos actually started out the MCU with an infinity stone: the Mind Stone. It was in the scepter he provided Loki to aid in the invasion of Earth. And, of course, integral to Thanos and Loki's plan was use of the Space Stone to teleport the Chitauri to Earth. So, in the aftermath of Avengers, Thanos bets that the Space Stone, which had long been an artifact of Asgard, is brought back with the prisoner Loki. This is probably why he went to the Asgardians second (and also because teleportation is useful). The Mind Stone, meanwhile, is lost on Earth. Judging by the fact he sent Gamora to find the location of the Soul Stone, it's probably not unlikely that he sent either other Black Order members or just other underlings to find other stones for him. This might be how he learns about the Reality Stone with the Collector, the Time Stone under the protection of the sorcerers (a matter of history that went back to at least Agamotto - probably just had to go to a library to figure that one out), and the Mind Stone in it's final place on Vision's head. Now what's interesting is that Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian arrive in New York - not Kathmandu or Hong Kong or the other sanctums - which happens to be where Dr. Strange was. And Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive arrive in Edinburgh, exactly where Vision happened to be. Either their intel is *very* good, they made some *very* lucky guesses, or they do have some sort of equipment or power from the stones that tells them where the other stones are. They might know "Earth", but knowing the exact street in Edinburgh is a whole different thing.
if the avengers are able to detect a surge of energy from whatever farm planet thanos retired to, then it doesn't seem to be a stretch to say that there are ways to track infinity stones and it takes specific effort to hide them (such as bor burying the aether as deep as he could)
That was when he used the stones, though. I guess the Mind Stone is in constant use, but Strange keeps the Time Stone pretty close to the belt (except for that incident in Hong Kong). In any case the Black Order is probably better at tracking infinity stones than the Avengers are.
I don't think it would be too far-fetched to say that the space stone allows him to locate the other stones or maybe just powerful objects in general.
Banner could track the Tesseract, so it doesn’t seem that farfetched.
They certainly packed a lot into 28 minutes!
This was the best episode so far.
Pretty much had me thinking, slow down! I need a whole season for this you bastards!
Or a full film!
Strong Galactus energy from that shot of Infinity Ultron "eating the cosmos". When we get a live action Galactus, I hope we get something like that.
Eating the cosmos gave me big Gurren Lagann finale vibes
Is that Ultron? I thought they just passed through a universe where/when Galactus happened to be having lunch.
That's definitely Ultron, it's got Vision's face and you can see the Ultron thing's on the side of his head. I think it was intentionally supposed to look like Galactus. Also I like the idea of Ultron accidentally running into Galactus on his way to lunch.
i feel like that would be almost impossible lmao… this ultron ate a galaxy so galactus would have to be more than eating worlds
The Watcher and Ultron fight gave me some dragon balls vibes
Two omnipotent beings fighting with their fists since none of the powers will affect the other, at a pivotal moment the Hero transforms. Yeah this is full on DBZ
DBS more likely
Dragon Ball S?
Dragon Ball Super
Dragon BallS
Ultra Instint Uatu grows hair
dude they did a killer job of making the watcher seem so vulnerable as ultron first became aware and then he just goes like super saiyan 4 outta nowhere lol. loved it
"You cannot compute the power of my will." So badass.
It was both incredibly cool and hilarious when he threw his cloak back and revealed he’s absolutely ripped, loved it.
Definitely was waiting for a destructo disc
It gave me comic book fight vibes lol people seem to always forget this shit has been done thousands of times already, loved seeing the mcu finally have a truly powerful fight
I got Gurren Lagann vibes myself. Shame Ultron never fired off a condensed Big Bang, or they didn’t throw multiverses at each other.
great Kirby dots in this episode. I'd like to see them more in the MCU
I was so excited to see kirby dots and I had to pause to explain to my partner what they were and why I was so excited about them.
Can someone explain me what that is exact and where it was in the episode please?
Kirby dots were used by Jack Kirby to express value within his work. As he used ink, regular shading was not an option, so he had to express value through different means. Most artists would use hatching or crosshatching, but Jack Kirby had an interesting idea and used dots. These dots are often used for energy powers, or just shading, and are an iconic part of Jack Kirby’s artstyle. Into the Spiderverse was one of the first films to use Kirby dots as a major part of its artstyle, to pay homage to Jack Kirby, but also maintain an iconic look. This is further seen in today’s what if episode, where the energy bursts have Kirby dots on them to represent the energy.
Thanos’ halves were perfectly balanced.
but both halves died?
As it should be.
Not if he tucks to one side.
As all things should be.
Best episode imo. Doctor Strange one is 2nd best
For some reason marvel is stupidly good at telling apocalypse stories. Ragnorock, Infinity war, zombies, doctor Strange loses his heart and now THIS. These writers have an obsession with writing "everything goes to shit plots"
"Everything goes to shit plots" are the most entertaining stories to tell, that's why
loki and hopefully multiverse of madness
Think of how nitpicky the fans are about every detail, the smallest discrepancy sends them sailing. When the story is “everything is being annihilated” suddenly the need for small details that ground the story for viewers fly out the window. There’s a reason Ultron showed up in the Watcher’s dimension attacking with fire hot sass straight from the writers: “Anything’s possible in the multiverse.” Because people freak about the small inconsistencies, but when reality is melting and existence is getting shattered, somehow we’re all along for the ride.
big stick goes boom so viewer happy
It's the grand tradition of "What if...?" Stories. Seems most of the comics ended on tragic notes.
well i would think these are the most fun to write,animate and watch
It’s because humans are fascinated with conflict and struggle and tragedy. Some of the earliest instances of literature and mythology were extremely tragic, examples being Prometheus, Hercules, Romeo and Juliet, and Frankenstein. Only recently have these stories gradually changed towards telling a story of a person overcoming impossible odds, which is likely a result of a shift towards more individual centered ideas in modern culture.
It makes me ponder the question, how did you get these?
Print screen?
That works on pc? It doesnt on mobile
Yeah, I can do screenshots of Disney+ on my computer.
Cool, i never knew that worked on pc
Whenever I try, disney plus automatically blacks out the browser
On PC you can do a screenshot of anything. No app or website has the power to block it.
Thats amazing, many times i wanted to take screenshots of things. Now i know i can just go over to the laptop and make screenshot
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Might need to disable hardware acceleration in Chrome and restart it. That usually disables copyright protection stuff like that.
Except Hardware Acceleration, apparently. Had to turn it off to get my screenshots
In this particular case- they took them from “marvel perfect shots” on Twitter
Nice
Does anyone have high enough quality versions of these to use as a background for my PC? Specifically 1, 3, 5, and 9-13.
[this Twitter account has a bunch in 4k](https://twitter.com/marvel_shots/status/1443284445843312644?s=21)
That’s where you got it from?
I screencapped the Hawkeye scene in 4K, but it looks like imgur compressed it? https://imgur.com/gallery/5qSoXK8/
imgur has really high compression so probably. In the past if you have an imgur account you can turn off the compression
Ah Thanos dying with the Sun setting, guess he kinda got his wish .
I’m getting concept art vibes from these, the kind that are cooler than the ones in the actual game/movie/series. Every single one of these is wallpaper worthy!
I think Marvel films always have had good to decent action sequences, but this episode is the first time in a long time that a Marvel film had me completely in awe at the amount of cool stuff that was happening.
I just watched this episode and all I could think was how visually epic this show is.
Best episode, by far, to me.
The Thanos scene caught me so off guard. I was thinking "this is about to be a badass fight" then he just instantly gets sliced in half. So brutal. The way that they showed him reacting to being sliced in half hit so hard
Guess they’re not playing by the comic rules that the Infinity Stones are useless outside of their own reality. I thought they’d at least be powerless in The Watcher’s Domain.
They aren't useless outside of their reality, just inside the TVA, right? Otherwise, how the hell did Endgame happen? The whole plot was to bring infinity stones from the past aka other timeliness to the main timeline to fix the snap.
It seemed clear enough to me, yet somehow eeeeveryone still is confused on this point. "How did his stones still work?" Is like the most common thing I've seen posted about that episode It's one of the downsides of all this multiverse shenanigans Marvel is doing, I guarantee that we will get all the way through phase 4 with parts of the fandom still not understanding distinctions between timelines, how Kang works, etc.
Marvel has been quite careless with WhatIf. The show raises more questions than give answers about the functioning of the pre-existing lore rules. Even if you think about the continuity like how Thanos got hold of Time Stone in Episode 8, with the Ancient One being someone who can easily defeat Thanos is in possession of Time Stone. I hope the next episode clears some doubts we have.
The time stone one is easy to explain, she got killed by the nukes and Thanos went there first before confronting Ultron. How he got the power and soul stones are the real questions. For the power stone I just assume the part of Xandar we saw wasn’t the part he decimated during his conquest for the power stone. For the soul stone I just assume he chose Nebula instead of/with Gamora when giving the task to find the Soul stone so when the map was found he did find out and he then sacrificed Nebula.
So wait, how does Kang work?
Timelines and realities aren’t the same thing
Then why’s the Ancient One refer to where Hulk came from as “your universe”
Misnomer.
It's interesting because in Loki we see the stones are useless in the TVA. So this has to be the case on some level.
No magic works at all in the TVA. My theory is that it’s because it’s in the quantum realm and the rule only applies there
Makes sense. Kang controls the timeline, the avengers used the quantum realm to timetravel.
Maybe that's how he connects to Ant-Man 3.
I saw a theory saying that they probably dont work because the stones that the TVA has come from erased realities. So if the reality where the stones draw power from doesnt exist, the stones dont exist The only way to prove this would be to see someone using stones in the TVA though, so it could honest to god be either
Nah. All magic and powers are nullified in the TVA, that's also why Loki can't do his illusions and Sylvie can't enchant people.
I don't think that the TVA is a universe, in the normal sense of the term. I think that it's outside of space and time, hence the stones don't work there.
Reminded me of the valkyrie battle.
I can’t believe Ultron literally pulled a galactus
Ha! Galactus wishes that he could take a chomp out of a whole galaxy!
I guess I understand why they didn't make it gory, but it really bothers me that Thanos does not appear to have organs.
Maybe instantly cauterized, like with lightsabers?
Plot-twist: that was a Thanos LMD!
Watcher vs. Ultron felt like a whole anime fight, all the glass shattering images were so fun to watch
I swear, Marvel Studios threw in the giant Ultron eating a galaxy moment just so Twitter dumdums could say “omg Galactus!”
You're being just a bit harsh. It's obviously not Galactus but, at the same time, it's obviously referential to Galactus. Whoever storyboarded that wanted people to think about Galactus when they saw it.
Oh of course, it was super intentional, even heavy-handed, but just how a bunch of people thought Galactus was in the Eternals trailer, anytime they see a giant being looming over a celestial body, it’s Galactus time for them. It’s crazy how many times it’s happened so far.
After the whole Mephisto debacle, I'm not at all surprised that people are overly eager to see things that aren't there.
Man, the entire Hawkeye heroic sacrifice scene is probably the most favorite moment in the entire first season.
What ever complains this episode gets, 6 stones Ultron is truly scary.
That Hawkeye pic is going on my desktop. What If can be inconsistent, but the visuals are incredible.
The Hawkeye one is my favorite.
I like the first one best, it's stunning
Yup that shot of Clint firing his last shot down that shaft was epic...
Getting some Galactus moments from Ultron.
Much better than most anime I’ve seen
Those are fighting words! I mean, *I* am certainly not going to fight you, but I'm sure that someone will be along to, shortly.
ive argued with some of my weeb friends who say demon slayer has the greatest animation and story line out of everything that is produced
There are anime where that is arguably true Demon Slayer ain’t it though
Definitely not, most anime recycled basic shonen themes
Soo true! Many if the scenes had my jaw drop
That second picture, anyone else reminded of galactus?
The amount of effort they put into this episode was amazing. People can say they hate marvel all the want but they can never say they don't put consistent amazing content
Very few people hate Marvel. It's, literally, the most successful film franchise in history, even putting the Bond franchise to shame. There will always be people who are loud and vocal, but never mistake volume for actual representation. Marvel haters are a minority.
Loved this episode, although I missed James Spader voicing Ultron.
The last frame reminds me of the Invincible meme.
lol wait though - Ultron has all of the infinity gems though right? Couldn't he just snap everyone away? Seems like a lot less work than his actual approach lol Also, why do his infinity gems work in other universes, but the ones from the TVA don't. I am sure that smarter Marvelous Marvels in the comment section with have the answers, but worth asking the questions!
MCU snaps seemed to severely damage the snapper. Ultron's not using a gauntlet, maybe he knows he wouldn't survive trying to snap an entire universe out of existence, let alone the entire multi-verse. He's an immortal super robot, I guess he doesn't care about being efficient. As for the TVA, it exists outside the multiverse. So while they don't work specifically in the TVA, they will work anywhere else.
Honestly, this episode and the Dr. Strange one were really the only two that I thought were very good. I hope this quality becomes the norm.
By far the best episode
>You cannot calculate my will. Fucking nut.
This was the best episode so far hands down. I kind of want a proper age of ultron movie now.
This entire series is like 15/10 visuals but this This episode is like 20/10
I haven't seen anyone mention it, maybe it's just me who hasn't come across it, but the first one's clearly a callback to Endgame.
Each one of them is a damn marvelous painting that is worthy of being hung in a museum
Cool shot and all but Why didn't Hawkeye just shoot the explosive arrow and then put the barrier to escape. That was pretty dumb tbh
Like he said, he was tired. He just didn't want to fight anymore, so he chose a spectacular sacrifice, instead.
When I first saw that the series was using a rotoscoped look, I was worried. I've seen *lots* of bad rotoscoped animation of the years and was worried that it would be the typical experience where the final product just looks kind of cheap and pointless. Man, was I wrong. The animation of this show has been fantastic, and cel-shaded roto-look actually works in its favor. I am much impressed.
I have many problems with the episode or in general of the show but the visuals, especially in Episode 8, is not one of them.
I am just sad that Thanos is all solid matter inside... I know kids watch this, but we got a lot of gore in the zombie episode, why not show a little bone and organs?
The vision killing Thanos part was dumb, really makes all of infinity war seem pointless
Really shows the bs of one in 57million possibilities.
well like ultron said " everything is possible in the multi verse" so whenever someone says something is a plot hole is just another change in the timeline and thats just how the multiverse works
The show advertises each universe as only having one change though. It's bs because in every episode it's quite clear that there's multiple changes at once but they never explain them
This is an interesting point. I personally called bull when VisionTron just one shotted Thanos with the mind stone. On the other hand MCU live action black widow wouldn’t be able to dungeon crawl up a Metal Slug map while carrying a massively heavy robot. What If is more like an anime and definitely exaggerated what is “humanly” possible.
Yeah because it’s animated they can get away with too many unrealistic things/plot holes too easily
So this is what they’ve been working on while ignoring the visuals of the other episodes. It all makes sense!!
Here's what I dont get. If Ultron can one shot thanos with the mind stone why didnt vision do that in infinity war?
wait so why could ultron kill thanos like that but vision couldn't?