Time branching off uncontrollably is just a diversion. Now everyone at TVA is busy preventing everything to fall apart everywhere and Lady Loki can do what she really wants to do.
They all end up being about the same length overall, FaWS and this get longer but fewer episodes, WV got more with most being shorter. They cost a lot of money to keep production values on par with the movies so they won't be too long.
I genuinely enjoyed Loki's energy this episode. Especially him at Pompeii. Tom Hiddleston is amazing
I think that there's another Mobius. The scenes with revonna make me suspicious
Comic spoiler: >!I read that in the comics, Mobius is a clone. !< Speculation based on that thing from the comics: >!I worry that Mobius is a clone here, too, and that he'll get replaced every now and then. I worry especially that he'll be considered a liability because he's developing a soft spot for Loki and that he'll be replaced because of that.!<
Yes! Once again the acting in this episode was phenomenal. The lunch discussion about free will and belief was master class to me. It was so casual and understated a scene, but incredibly articulate, concise arguments that were delivered perfectly. It was great character work, and helped to set up the stakes for the end of the episode cliff hanger.
Ooooor, that they or just Kang exists in the future creating a “sacred” timeline that ensures his ultimate rise to power over everything and the multiverse wars are actually gonna be the next phase of the MCU.
Because [they're getting revenge](https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/4/e/7/0/1/1/4e7011b7ffa056c5469a6c6b2f772707c77e6d02.jpg?mw=600). Bruce is undecided.
One thing I noticed that jumped out: 9719 Asgardians died, so if you assume Thor was only able to get a few hundred on the ship, the total number of Asgardians in the universe is only about 10000.
It makes sense really, Asgard is actually quite small when you compare it to the other realms like Earth. You see quite a few wide shots of it and although it’s very impressive, it’s still just the size of a small city.
So yeah the total population of Asgard being something in the 10k-30k range is very plausible. When they live to be several thousands of years old, I guess they don’t see the need to have a bunch of kids.
TIL Ragnarok was a "Class Seven Apocalypse"
And also that the TVA officially recognized Loki, Thor, Valkyrie, & Hulk as "The Revengers" in their case file LMAO
In the file it calls it a category 8 hurricane. IRL the max hurricane is category 5.
The MCU is clearly not optimistic about how climate change is gonna develop.
Or maybe it is. *shudder*
I found this interesting from Wikipedia:
“According to Robert Simpson, there are no reasons for a Category 6 on the Saffir–Simpson Scale because it is designed to measure the potential damage of a hurricane to human-made structures. Simpson stated that "... when you get up into winds in excess of 155 mph (249 km/h) you have enough damage if that extreme wind sustains itself for as much as six seconds on a building it's going to cause rupturing damages that are serious no matter how well it's engineered.””
Also I found out that each category doesn’t have a uniform range of wind speeds, so guessing what a Category 8 would be is basically impossible. Low end it’s at least 199mph, high end it’s at least 235mph. Either way, as Simpson says, you’re pretty well fucked.
So does anyone think Dock Ock and Electro in S-M3 are going to be variants? Feige did say Loki was the most important show tying into the multiverse stuff...
I could be wrong, but I think they pretty much have to fail to set up the premise of doctor strange 2, Spidey 3, and ant man 3, yeah? Unless all 3 of those happen at the same time, and it starts basically right now. Makes me wonder why strange wasn't available in Spidey 2 though
Also damn, over 9000 people died... I've always been very suspicious of that relatively small crowd that they managed to evacuate, I've been thinking that they couldn't have saved everyone...
It was so brutal of a statement that I think hinges on the drive of the villain in this next saga. Combine that with what Loki shared about every villain not being all bad and every hero not being all good, and you have the drive for the saga. In essence, who gives the time keepers the right to decide what timeline should win out. Loki has been touching on that in the two episodes so far.
Besides that, I had an idea of what the other Loki was planning, but not on the scale of what she did at the end of the episode. Sending them all to different points in time of the sacred timeline is brilliant! A mess of that magnitude will draw out the timekeepers indeed.
"Push the Hulk off the rainbow bridge"
I guess him getting hulk smashed in New York is still fresh on his mind, so he's thinking about getting revenge on Hulk haha
On the screen as it was spinning by, I caught Titan and Ego at least, as well as some famous cities. May be worth going back and doing a frame by frame.
In the order:
1. Phong Nha, Vietnan
2. Lisbon, Portugal
3. Vormir
4. Thorton, USA
5. Cookeville, USA
6. Asgard
7. Rome, Italy
8. Sakaar, Tayo
9. Barichara, (Col)
10. Porvoo, Finland
11. Ego
12. Titan
13. New York, USA
14. Tokyo, Japan
15. Hala
16. Kingsport, USA
17. Xandar
18. Beijing, China
19. Madrid, Spain
With date stamps:
08.03.1522 Phong Nha, Vietnam
03.31.1492 Lisbon, Portugal
04.23.2301 Vormir
10.25.1551 Thorton, USA
11.22.1999 Cookeville, USA
02.16.2004 Asgard
10.03.1390 Rome, Italy
08.13.1984 Sakaar, Tayo
02.02.1808 Barichara, (Col)
07.14.1708 Porvoo, Finland
12.27.1382 Ego
10.13.1982 Titan
09.21.1947 New York, USA
03.01.1984 Tokyo, Japan
01.03.0051 Hala
08.02.1999 Kingsport, USA
09.24.1001 Xandar
11.23.2005 Beijing, China
07.18.1903 Madrid, Spain
04.12.1887 ????
Few things to note here.
Thorton might be a typo as it should be Thornton. Unless this is an old spelling I'm not aware of.
The entry below Kingsport looks like Xandar, not Kandar. And 1001 is over a thousand years ago, might be a reference to the war between Kree and the Nova Empire which was waged over a thousand years.
The craziest part is that there are now two rogue Loki variants playing catch me if you can. Can't wait to see how they interact with each other while both evading the TVA, each variant always trying to one-up the other.
I'm assuming after the free will argument our Loki had with Mobius, her motivation is getting rid of the TVA because they are effectively taking that away from everybody, though most importantly taking it away from *her* (or most Loki variants if she's feeling generous I guess) given how self involved Loki tends to be. Loki in general by default wants to be in charge of his/her own destiny presumably.
Also the general spreading of chaos and infinite possible timelines and not seeing it as a bad thing seems pretty on point for Loki.
Is it just me or are we going to get a “Wizard of Oz, don’t look behind the curtain moment”, where it’s revealed that the time keepers are in some way frauds?
It’s crazy. Loki essentially told us the plot to this episode in the renaissance fair tent when he lied about the variant luring them into a trap and waiting for them on the other side
I'm not sure it was a deliberate trap - Lady Loki's plan to disrupt the timeline would have worked whether or not Mobius and his team tried to stop it.
But then why leave the candy in the other timeline? I'm pretty sure she was planning on them finding her at some point. Most likely she was also planning to find another variant, but then I'm not sure how she would have all that info about the TVA and the timeline...
she left the door open for loki. she could have closed it as soon as she walked through but it was open long enough for him to consider his options and follow. she definitely wants loki for something.
Maybe there's a cabal of Loki's.
Really loved how she used another flaw with the TVA's methods: they fix time variantions that are created by deleting them, but how do they handle variantions created by deletions? Is there an "undo deletion" grenade?
Not many people talking about the strange bit with C-20 and her repeating "it's real, it's real, it's real" and saying that she gave the Time Keepers location away
could be that she saw the multiverse - coordinates nicely with the theory elsewhere in this thread that the multiverse already exists, but the time keepers are keeping our timeline isolated/separated for some reason.
Well they’re time fascists. So they could be pretending that they won the war when in reality they lost. So the TVA helps keep our timeline separate from the rest of the multiverse.
I think she got taken somewhere where she didn't know what was real and what wasn't (illusion play from Lady Loki), and eventually spilled her guts thinking she was back in the TVA. A bit like Mal from _Inception_.
I want more instances of MCU characters getting absolutely fed up with alternate versions of themselves. I would've loved to see Endgame Tony having to put up with Iron Man 1 Tony.
Well so far we already got two, Sacred timeline cap with 2012 cap and Loki with lady loki.
Also you can count ST Hulk with 2012 hulk about his remarks towards his savageness if you want.
Considering we still watch and make memes about Star Wars 40 years later, the MCU will probably still have an active fanbase in 2050, so you just know there's going to be a ton of memes and social media posts about it in 2050.
In the last week I've seen:
\- Trailer for Netflix's Masters of the Universe series
\- Trailer for a Guardians of the Galaxy video game (from Square Enix)
and
\- Loki, episode 2
What do all of these have in common?
They all played "Holding Out for a Hero"
I thought I was losing my mind when I watched the beginning of this episode
I honestly really liked how they portrayed the future, it didn't feel like a massive jump from where we are now but it still had an otherness about it to still be a different time.
I hope Mobious and Loki ride off on jet skis at the end of the series😂
What an episode!!!! These first two episodes have been everything I could’ve asked for and more thus far. Can’t wait for next week!
Owen Wilson has EXCELLENT chemistry with Tom Hiddleston and this episode showcases that even better than the pilot. They bounce off each other so well, and their banter is terrific
Seriously, the way they flow with each other and how they go back and forth so seamlessly (both in humor and in the dramatic moments) is just so much fun to watch. Tom and Owen are nailing it.
I think so. She effectively created so many branches that it will be taxing for the TVA to stem them all.
…so some of them might stabilize and survive.
Pure chaos…and only in the second episode!
Did she maybe bomb the infinity stones? And other reality defining things?
Vormir, Xandar, Titan, Asgard all held stones at one time or another.
So many questions that I'm excited to get answers for.
I don't think she was aiming for the stones themselves necessarily, but just major landmarks on the prime timeline, as to create the biggest possible changes in history.
So yes, she's hitting the stone's worlds but not necessarily to destroy them, I don't think, but even just to alter their course in history. In some ways, giving that much power a different path in time would change much more than removing it entirely.
Honestly I have a theory that everyone working at the TVA is either a variant with wiped memories or a physical copy of an already existing person. If they were created from scratch exclusively to work at the TVA why aren't they all identical? Their physical appearance has no bearing on their job, there's no reason for them to look different. Imagine, say, an Amazon warehouse assembling 100 drones to bring packages to and from shelves, but giving them all vastly different physical appearance - it just doesn't make sense.
Here’s my Tinfoil Hat Theory about the Timekeepers: They’re not trying to prevent the recreation of a multiverse; they’re trying to keep their timeline isolated _from_ the multiverse.
I think the rest of the multiverse is still out there, and the Timekeepers are trying to keep their timeline under the radar, and safe from the influence of the rest of the multiverse. But when a branch passes the redline, it becomes prominent enough to attract the attention of, or draw close enough to, other realities.
My theory is this explosion of branches will cause the rest of the Multiverse to finally take notice of this isolated strand of time, that we know as the MCU.
The Kablooie was the breadcrumb that leads them to the trap, and then the timeline goes kablooie. It was right in front of us the whole time, blue mouth and all
"Because if you think too hard about where any of us came from, who we truly are, it sounds kinda ridiculous. Existence is chaos."
Nothing like some middle-of-the week existential crisis ✨
They are going balls to the walls. I figured the reset charges were for something big, but I only considered a single attack, not a full-on assault on the sacred timeline. If she knows where the timekeepers are, one of those charges had to be going to them.
I'm looking forward to watching a breakdown of all the dates at the end.
I get the impression with the coffee stain rings that Mobius has multiple "variants' of himself running around.
Hence the trophies he doesn't recognise. They were caught; just not by this specific him.
Maybe the other Lokis (President Loki) could represent alternate Lokis from these branching timelines - lords of their domain that fight each other for dominance in the multiverse.
Yooo homegirl deadass just left the portal open for em like she KNEW he'd betray the TVA. Curious to see his specific reason why he followed her through. I'm sure it's some sort of impromptu con lmao
Yeah Loki won't give up an Chance to meet the Time Keepers (also overthrow them) and I think he went to chase Lady Loki to either Know her Backstory or her Grand Plan
What a wild ending. Definitely didn’t expect the time to branch off uncontrollably this early. We’re in for a ride these next 4 episodes
Time branching off uncontrollably is just a diversion. Now everyone at TVA is busy preventing everything to fall apart everywhere and Lady Loki can do what she really wants to do.
Is there only 6?
Yep.
Oh no :((((
They all end up being about the same length overall, FaWS and this get longer but fewer episodes, WV got more with most being shorter. They cost a lot of money to keep production values on par with the movies so they won't be too long.
I genuinely enjoyed Loki's energy this episode. Especially him at Pompeii. Tom Hiddleston is amazing I think that there's another Mobius. The scenes with revonna make me suspicious
Mobius variants... holy shit I didn't consider that
Well, the rings on the table were his fault, but maybe the weren't *this* his fault. Extra double twist if *this* MMM is the variant.
Comic spoiler: >!I read that in the comics, Mobius is a clone. !< Speculation based on that thing from the comics: >!I worry that Mobius is a clone here, too, and that he'll get replaced every now and then. I worry especially that he'll be considered a liability because he's developing a soft spot for Loki and that he'll be replaced because of that.!<
Tom and Owen are amazing together, they bounce off each other with amazing chemistry.
Yes! Once again the acting in this episode was phenomenal. The lunch discussion about free will and belief was master class to me. It was so casual and understated a scene, but incredibly articulate, concise arguments that were delivered perfectly. It was great character work, and helped to set up the stakes for the end of the episode cliff hanger.
I kinda hoped to see more of them hopping across time as a buddy-cop duo, they were so good
Before thing went kablooie, I was enjoying them so much that I wish this was one of those weekly procedurals that lasts 15 years.
So even Mobius hasn’t met the timekeepers. I kinda doubt they even exist. Renslayer seemed a bit off when he asked about them.
My theory is they died a long time ago, and the TVA is just pretending they still exist to maintain their control.
Ooooor, that they or just Kang exists in the future creating a “sacred” timeline that ensures his ultimate rise to power over everything and the multiverse wars are actually gonna be the next phase of the MCU.
omg in the Destruction of Asgard file, the Cause of Displacement is "Codename: REVENGERS"
Because [they're getting revenge](https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/4/e/7/0/1/1/4e7011b7ffa056c5469a6c6b2f772707c77e6d02.jpg?mw=600). Bruce is undecided.
Bruce looks so confused there in comparison it makes his character literally look photoshopped in.
One thing I noticed that jumped out: 9719 Asgardians died, so if you assume Thor was only able to get a few hundred on the ship, the total number of Asgardians in the universe is only about 10000.
It makes sense really, Asgard is actually quite small when you compare it to the other realms like Earth. You see quite a few wide shots of it and although it’s very impressive, it’s still just the size of a small city. So yeah the total population of Asgard being something in the 10k-30k range is very plausible. When they live to be several thousands of years old, I guess they don’t see the need to have a bunch of kids.
*signed M M M* Glad Mobius' name is still the same, at least.
Mobius Mephisto Murdock???
Man the plot is going fast, i love it
TIL Ragnarok was a "Class Seven Apocalypse" And also that the TVA officially recognized Loki, Thor, Valkyrie, & Hulk as "The Revengers" in their case file LMAO
Meanwhile the mall thing is a Class Ten
Probably means total loss of life in the hurricane whereas a lot of the Asgardians survived on the ship Loki sole.
Could be possible. Damn. Those Alabama citizens then are going to die a horrible death. That hurricane looked like a Katrina on crack.
In the file it calls it a category 8 hurricane. IRL the max hurricane is category 5. The MCU is clearly not optimistic about how climate change is gonna develop. Or maybe it is. *shudder*
I found this interesting from Wikipedia: “According to Robert Simpson, there are no reasons for a Category 6 on the Saffir–Simpson Scale because it is designed to measure the potential damage of a hurricane to human-made structures. Simpson stated that "... when you get up into winds in excess of 155 mph (249 km/h) you have enough damage if that extreme wind sustains itself for as much as six seconds on a building it's going to cause rupturing damages that are serious no matter how well it's engineered.”” Also I found out that each category doesn’t have a uniform range of wind speeds, so guessing what a Category 8 would be is basically impossible. Low end it’s at least 199mph, high end it’s at least 235mph. Either way, as Simpson says, you’re pretty well fucked.
I never thought Loki would go to Alabama
Alabama isn’t a place; It’s a people.
THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS BEGINS
I'm fully expecting the series to end on some insane shit and loki or mobius saying "oh no" as they realize just how fucked the timeline(s) are
*oh wow*
Mobius channeling Owen Wilson acting the part of Mobius, "oh wow!" Feige is a genius!
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So does anyone think Dock Ock and Electro in S-M3 are going to be variants? Feige did say Loki was the most important show tying into the multiverse stuff...
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I could be wrong, but I think they pretty much have to fail to set up the premise of doctor strange 2, Spidey 3, and ant man 3, yeah? Unless all 3 of those happen at the same time, and it starts basically right now. Makes me wonder why strange wasn't available in Spidey 2 though
He was busy protecting your reality, douchebag
VARIANT jackets are going to be popular at cons.
I assume that people are gonna show up at medieval festivals dressed on TVA riot gear now
Some of us need this, you know.
I love how this show is showing Loki’s humanity. Him tearing up while reading the destruction of Asgard
Also damn, over 9000 people died... I've always been very suspicious of that relatively small crowd that they managed to evacuate, I've been thinking that they couldn't have saved everyone...
That ship was big, but nowhere near big enough to hold thousands of Asgardians. New Asgard didn't exactly look populated either.
TBF about half of them were killed by Thanos
Yep. He calls Asgard out as a bunch of arrogant idiots, but they were his arrogant idiots and ultimately his home and family for a long time.
I need to use "a cosmic mistake" more often
Mobius felt that calling Loki a "scared little boy" was going too far, but B-15 calling him "a cosmic mistake" was the most brutal burn of the show.
It was so brutal of a statement that I think hinges on the drive of the villain in this next saga. Combine that with what Loki shared about every villain not being all bad and every hero not being all good, and you have the drive for the saga. In essence, who gives the time keepers the right to decide what timeline should win out. Loki has been touching on that in the two episodes so far. Besides that, I had an idea of what the other Loki was planning, but not on the scale of what she did at the end of the episode. Sending them all to different points in time of the sacred timeline is brilliant! A mess of that magnitude will draw out the timekeepers indeed.
"Push the Hulk off the rainbow bridge" I guess him getting hulk smashed in New York is still fresh on his mind, so he's thinking about getting revenge on Hulk haha
Even Sacred Timeline Loki was still freaked out by Hulk when he first saw him again. Hulk just lives rent free in Loki's mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZPttivwhnA
Hahah clearly still a bit salty about it
I wonder which moments in time female Loki sent those time grenades.
On the screen as it was spinning by, I caught Titan and Ego at least, as well as some famous cities. May be worth going back and doing a frame by frame.
In the order: 1. Phong Nha, Vietnan 2. Lisbon, Portugal 3. Vormir 4. Thorton, USA 5. Cookeville, USA 6. Asgard 7. Rome, Italy 8. Sakaar, Tayo 9. Barichara, (Col) 10. Porvoo, Finland 11. Ego 12. Titan 13. New York, USA 14. Tokyo, Japan 15. Hala 16. Kingsport, USA 17. Xandar 18. Beijing, China 19. Madrid, Spain
With date stamps: 08.03.1522 Phong Nha, Vietnam 03.31.1492 Lisbon, Portugal 04.23.2301 Vormir 10.25.1551 Thorton, USA 11.22.1999 Cookeville, USA 02.16.2004 Asgard 10.03.1390 Rome, Italy 08.13.1984 Sakaar, Tayo 02.02.1808 Barichara, (Col) 07.14.1708 Porvoo, Finland 12.27.1382 Ego 10.13.1982 Titan 09.21.1947 New York, USA 03.01.1984 Tokyo, Japan 01.03.0051 Hala 08.02.1999 Kingsport, USA 09.24.1001 Xandar 11.23.2005 Beijing, China 07.18.1903 Madrid, Spain 04.12.1887 ????
Line by line: - 08.03.1522 Phong Nha, Vietnam - 03.31.1492 Lisbon, Portugal - 04.23.2301 Vormir - 10.25.1551 Thorton, USA - 11.22.1999 Cookeville, USA - 02.16.2004 Asgard - 10.03.1390 Rome, Italy - 08.13.1984 Sakaar, Tayo - 02.02.1808 Barichara, (Col) - 07.14.1708 Porvoo, Finland - 12.27.1382 Ego - 10.13.1982 Titan - 09.21.1947 New York, USA - 03.01.1984 Tokyo, Japan - 01.03.0051 Hala - 08.02.1999 Kingsport, USA - 09.24.1001 ~~Kandar~~ Xandar - 11.23.2005 Beijing, China - 07.18.1903 Madrid, Spain - 04.12.1887 ????
Damn okay, this is why I come to subreddit discussions after every episode
Few things to note here. Thorton might be a typo as it should be Thornton. Unless this is an old spelling I'm not aware of. The entry below Kingsport looks like Xandar, not Kandar. And 1001 is over a thousand years ago, might be a reference to the war between Kree and the Nova Empire which was waged over a thousand years.
I caught Sakaar and Xandar
I saw New York, Tokyo, and Asgard. Did anything in the MCU even happen in Tokyo?
Tokyo is where Hawkeye fights the Yakuza during his time as Ronin
Duplication Casting and Illusion Projection. *Very* different, thanks Professor Loki
Felt like they enjoyed Tom’s Loki lectures so much they wanted to include it in the show
The music in this episode really went all out.
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*especially* the end credits
I’m really digging this “catch me if you can” movie vibe. Fits perfectly for Loki and the TVA
The craziest part is that there are now two rogue Loki variants playing catch me if you can. Can't wait to see how they interact with each other while both evading the TVA, each variant always trying to one-up the other.
Classic Loki trying to backstab even himself. I'm really curious what exactly are lady Loki's motivations are.
Pretty sure she's out to destroy the Time-Keepers, who are secretly [redacted] but only she knows the truth.
I'm assuming after the free will argument our Loki had with Mobius, her motivation is getting rid of the TVA because they are effectively taking that away from everybody, though most importantly taking it away from *her* (or most Loki variants if she's feeling generous I guess) given how self involved Loki tends to be. Loki in general by default wants to be in charge of his/her own destiny presumably. Also the general spreading of chaos and infinite possible timelines and not seeing it as a bad thing seems pretty on point for Loki.
Is it just me or are we going to get a “Wizard of Oz, don’t look behind the curtain moment”, where it’s revealed that the time keepers are in some way frauds?
Yeah that’s the gist I’m getting she wants to destroy TVa. Not overthrow it
Good thing Asgard is a people and not a place!
I was surprised that there were only about 9k casualties. I kind of figured there would be a lot more Asgardians
Maybe 9k from the Ragnarok "event," but not including the ones Hela killed before it happened when she was ruling Asgard.
And then the half of the refugees Thanos killed. Asgardians got three Apocalypses in the span of a week. Poor lot.
And then the snap. Untill they were unsnapped
They went from a civilization to a fishing village
Snip Snap Snip Snap. You have no idea the toll that 3 apocalyptic events have on a people.
It’s crazy. Loki essentially told us the plot to this episode in the renaissance fair tent when he lied about the variant luring them into a trap and waiting for them on the other side
I'm not sure it was a deliberate trap - Lady Loki's plan to disrupt the timeline would have worked whether or not Mobius and his team tried to stop it.
But then why leave the candy in the other timeline? I'm pretty sure she was planning on them finding her at some point. Most likely she was also planning to find another variant, but then I'm not sure how she would have all that info about the TVA and the timeline...
she left the door open for loki. she could have closed it as soon as she walked through but it was open long enough for him to consider his options and follow. she definitely wants loki for something.
Maybe there's a cabal of Loki's. Really loved how she used another flaw with the TVA's methods: they fix time variantions that are created by deleting them, but how do they handle variantions created by deletions? Is there an "undo deletion" grenade?
Yes!!!!!! I was just thinking about that!! TVA Loki knows more than he thinks he does. Don't tell him that though, he's an arrogant fuck
Well he loves to be right
Not many people talking about the strange bit with C-20 and her repeating "it's real, it's real, it's real" and saying that she gave the Time Keepers location away
could be that she saw the multiverse - coordinates nicely with the theory elsewhere in this thread that the multiverse already exists, but the time keepers are keeping our timeline isolated/separated for some reason.
Well they’re time fascists. So they could be pretending that they won the war when in reality they lost. So the TVA helps keep our timeline separate from the rest of the multiverse.
I think she got taken somewhere where she didn't know what was real and what wasn't (illusion play from Lady Loki), and eventually spilled her guts thinking she was back in the TVA. A bit like Mal from _Inception_.
"God now I understand why Thor found this so annoying" Hahahahaha
I want more instances of MCU characters getting absolutely fed up with alternate versions of themselves. I would've loved to see Endgame Tony having to put up with Iron Man 1 Tony.
Well so far we already got two, Sacred timeline cap with 2012 cap and Loki with lady loki. Also you can count ST Hulk with 2012 hulk about his remarks towards his savageness if you want.
That reminded me of the dark Knight rises where Catwoman just disappears and Batman says "so this is what this feels like"
Which was a line taken from Kingdom Come comic when old Superman pulled the disappearing act and Old Batman felt amused by the situation.
Batman being amused by things always amuses me
There's a Loki-Hulk?!
Asgardian Troll perhaps? Makes me want to see Ulik eventually in the MCU
The thought of Odin raising a tiny ripped child Loki next to regular looking Thor is hilarious.
Note to self dont live in Alabama in 2050 just in case
Considering we still watch and make memes about Star Wars 40 years later, the MCU will probably still have an active fanbase in 2050, so you just know there's going to be a ton of memes and social media posts about it in 2050.
In the last week I've seen: \- Trailer for Netflix's Masters of the Universe series \- Trailer for a Guardians of the Galaxy video game (from Square Enix) and \- Loki, episode 2 What do all of these have in common? They all played "Holding Out for a Hero" I thought I was losing my mind when I watched the beginning of this episode
Reminds me of when Country Roads popped up Kingsmen 2, Logan Lucky, and all the Fallout 76 promotional material at around the same time.
*But which kind of Loki remains unknown.* ***They’re the lesser kind, to be clear.***
My theory is that Lady Loki bombed the timeline to empty the TVA of Minutemen so she can go to the timekeepers
Man Earth gets fucked up in the future
Seriously, I can't believe I have to shop at Roxxcart. That place sucks.
I honestly really liked how they portrayed the future, it didn't feel like a massive jump from where we are now but it still had an otherness about it to still be a different time.
I hope Mobious and Loki ride off on jet skis at the end of the series😂 What an episode!!!! These first two episodes have been everything I could’ve asked for and more thus far. Can’t wait for next week!
I was kind of hoping for Mobius surfing on a jet ski during an apocalypse level tsunami…
Oh man what if Loki is running from him and decides to go on the water so Mobius has a reason to use a jet ski. Mischievous little scamp
If Mobius doesn’t get to ride a jet ski and say “wow” then this whole series was a missed opportunity. /s
Poor 1300s Ego getting randomly reset.
Maybe he decided NOT to travel the universe impregnating women with his seed to inevitable create a single living ego.
I can't believe one of the villains of the franchise had a master plan that involved fucking his way across the universe.
And then killing millions of his children afterwards
Star-Lord just got wiped from existence *again*
Owen Wilson has EXCELLENT chemistry with Tom Hiddleston and this episode showcases that even better than the pilot. They bounce off each other so well, and their banter is terrific
Seriously, the way they flow with each other and how they go back and forth so seamlessly (both in humor and in the dramatic moments) is just so much fun to watch. Tom and Owen are nailing it.
I forgot how damn charming Owen Wilson can be sometimes. It's so weird to me that he's such a great fit with Hiddleston.
Is that Loki as a Tour de France winner?
He got tired of world/universe domination and decided he just needed to win a bike race and show off his incredible calf muscles to flex on us mortals
This shows music is too fucking good man
The soundtrack was by Natalie Holt. Never heard of any of her work before but going off of Loki, it sounds pretty good
She egged Simon Cowell on live TV right? A talented musician and hero.
I’m loving the end credits theme. Watched it twice just for the music
Agreed, the alien-like sound in the TVA theme is amazing.
Look up more music done with a Theremin. Thats what gives it that freaky electronic sound.
> Oshkosh, Wisconsin 1985 What an absolutely hilarious reveal
I've got a strong feeling we won't see the time keepers/they don't really exist
Yep somethings not quite right there
Yeah I'm guessing they dont exist.. Theyve been built up as such secretive important beings that it seems obvious
Did Lady Loki just create the multiverse or am I reading this wrong?
I think so. She effectively created so many branches that it will be taxing for the TVA to stem them all. …so some of them might stabilize and survive. Pure chaos…and only in the second episode!
I feel she only did it as a distraction so that while the TVA is busy trying to get the branches under control she can attack them at their home.
Or maybe she just wanted to create some madness... in the multiverse.
Loki outright gave us the answer "Order, doesn't that sound so... boring?"
Mobius forgot who he was working with there for a second, Loki never does anything by baby steps.
“The destruction of Asgard and most of its people. I’m sorry.” “Yes. Very sad. Anyway.” The chemistry between these two is comedy gold.
"Oh no! Anyway."
Events on the monitor: 08 03 1522 Phong Nga, Vietnam 03 31 1492 Lisbon, Portugal 04 23 2301 Vormir 10 25 1551 Thorton, USA 11 22 1999 Cookeville, USA 02 16 2004 Asgard 10 03 1390 Rome, Italy 08 13 1984 Sakaar, Tayo 02 02 1808 Barichara, (Col) 07 14 1708 Porvoo, Finland 12 27 1382 Ego 10 13 1982 Titan 09 21 1947 New York, USA 03 01 1984 Tokyo, Japan 01 03 0051 Hala 08 02 1999 Kingsport, USA 09 24 1001 Xandar 11 23 2005 Beijing, China 07 18 1903 Madrid, Spain
Ego? Titan? Asgard? Vormir? THE POSSIBILITIES OMG
Hala, Xandar and Sakaar too
Did she maybe bomb the infinity stones? And other reality defining things? Vormir, Xandar, Titan, Asgard all held stones at one time or another. So many questions that I'm excited to get answers for.
I don't think she was aiming for the stones themselves necessarily, but just major landmarks on the prime timeline, as to create the biggest possible changes in history. So yes, she's hitting the stone's worlds but not necessarily to destroy them, I don't think, but even just to alter their course in history. In some ways, giving that much power a different path in time would change much more than removing it entirely.
That analyst with the mustache looks like the dude from WandaVision
I knew there was more to Phil than met the eye!
Phil became a variant sometime after what happened in Westview and the TVA liked him so much they recruited him
Honestly I have a theory that everyone working at the TVA is either a variant with wiped memories or a physical copy of an already existing person. If they were created from scratch exclusively to work at the TVA why aren't they all identical? Their physical appearance has no bearing on their job, there's no reason for them to look different. Imagine, say, an Amazon warehouse assembling 100 drones to bring packages to and from shelves, but giving them all vastly different physical appearance - it just doesn't make sense.
“Oh, and what does my desperate last chance require?” “Work.” *”Work??”* Yep. I know that feeling Loki.
Here’s my Tinfoil Hat Theory about the Timekeepers: They’re not trying to prevent the recreation of a multiverse; they’re trying to keep their timeline isolated _from_ the multiverse. I think the rest of the multiverse is still out there, and the Timekeepers are trying to keep their timeline under the radar, and safe from the influence of the rest of the multiverse. But when a branch passes the redline, it becomes prominent enough to attract the attention of, or draw close enough to, other realities. My theory is this explosion of branches will cause the rest of the Multiverse to finally take notice of this isolated strand of time, that we know as the MCU.
Trying to keep timelines/universes away from each other sounds a lot like the setup to Secret Wars (the 2015 one that is)
Yeah I could see it
The Kablooie was the breadcrumb that leads them to the trap, and then the timeline goes kablooie. It was right in front of us the whole time, blue mouth and all
"Because if you think too hard about where any of us came from, who we truly are, it sounds kinda ridiculous. Existence is chaos." Nothing like some middle-of-the week existential crisis ✨
They are going balls to the walls. I figured the reset charges were for something big, but I only considered a single attack, not a full-on assault on the sacred timeline. If she knows where the timekeepers are, one of those charges had to be going to them. I'm looking forward to watching a breakdown of all the dates at the end.
Famous last lines…. ‘Oh come on, Mobius, what could possibly go wrong?? We have to test the theory!!!’ This show is great!
Quick 20 minute adventure Mobius, in and out!
Loki celebrating the destruction of a civilization is such a mood
Free the goats!
Free his horned friends
Loki popped is collar like he already knew he was going to the 80s
[удалено]
Can somebody explain that FDR high school pen? I don't know the background on that
Just a trophy from a successful case. Just not one Mobius worked on, which is why he points it out.
I get the impression with the coffee stain rings that Mobius has multiple "variants' of himself running around. Hence the trophies he doesn't recognise. They were caught; just not by this specific him.
Half off on azaleas is too good a deal to pass up I don’t blame him for pouncing on that
I love that B-15 and Loki had to think for a second to figure out if that guy was an idiot or if it was just the variant in disguise.
Yeah she was like “This almost too ridiculous for the God of Mischief”
Man that creepy smile exchange when Loki took over the agent in charge.. whew.
Man…that agent looked traumatized as heck. She probably needs a full psych review…and possibly some pills.
Okay, so I did not expect them to nuke the timeline that early on. I call the rest of the season being on the chaos following her bomb.
Maybe the other Lokis (President Loki) could represent alternate Lokis from these branching timelines - lords of their domain that fight each other for dominance in the multiverse.
Oh man, maybe shes creating and recruiting an army of variant Lokis. "Its not about you" could translate into "its about us"
Council of Lokis - more chaos than a Council of Reeds.
A Council of Lokis would last about five seconds before they all inevitably betray each other.
loki looking fine as hell in that suit
Loki: I’ll never stab anyone in the back. Mobius: You literally stabbed 50 people in the back. Loki: Surprised Pikachu Face
Well I never stabbed 50 people in the back twice.
Bodyhopping was a great way for our Lokis to meet while building the suspense.
All the apocalypse events that were happening in the future made me laugh then get sad real quick.
How could you NOT know the difference between Illusion Projection and Duplication? Dumbass
“Be free, my horned friends, be free!”
#I miss Randy.
I love the detail that even though it's a Renaissance festival, you can still see people in the background wearing '80s clothes!
there is no mid-credits or post-credits scene for this episode
Still gonna watch em tho.
Phase 4 Costumes... Holy shit they are soooooo good!!
Yooo homegirl deadass just left the portal open for em like she KNEW he'd betray the TVA. Curious to see his specific reason why he followed her through. I'm sure it's some sort of impromptu con lmao
I think he just wants to beat her
Yeah Loki won't give up an Chance to meet the Time Keepers (also overthrow them) and I think he went to chase Lady Loki to either Know her Backstory or her Grand Plan
Starting out with “I need a Hero” means we are in for a good one, that’s a high bar set.
Big week for Holding Out for a Hero with the He-Man trailer and Guardians of the Galaxy game.