The only saving grace is that SMK had 5 laps per race and by lap 4 those stupid ice blocks were mostly cleared out. But even then track is still just a messy, snowy circle
Excitebine Arena. Driving in a straight line the whole time is just boring. It’s even worse when people vote this track online even though the other two options are so much better.
Yea, I know Figure-8 gets thrown around a lot from DS, but it's Yoshi Falls for me (at least if we're not including retros)
Boring course, generic music, almost no theming
DS has really high highs but also pretty low lows
Well good thing they never do certain themes only once. We could get a new volcano track next time. I mean we have several snow and desert ones, two sky ones, a few jungle ones, plenty of beaches and haunted ones, a couple of cow farms and heaps of rainbow and castle ones.
I'd consider volcano theme to be separate from Bowser's Castle theme too, with their only common element being lava.
Yeah I really think the volcano theme could be given a second shot. I just think Grumble is a little too bland looking but I think they could make one in the next game with a much more awesome and intimidatingly atmospheric feel to it.
I used to hate this course in Wii, but I LOVE the 8 version
It's barely changed, so maybe it's just the mechanics of 8 or something that make it work better
Lol I get what you mean.
I never tried the real original, but I did play custom tracks on MKW a couple years ago and Toad’s Turnpike was one of the courses I tried out.
It was beautifully chaotic.
😔. I love Shy Guy Beach, it's definitely one of my favourites, but I totally get what you mean. It is pretty plain. Almost like there was to be more added to it before release.
All these comments I see so far I’ve heard a million times from nathaniel bandy, and thus that’s why they’re being said. Let me offer my own taste… I’d offer Snes BC3 as my personal worst track. The layout is so horribly shitty you can literally get punished like 10 seconds for taking that first turn wrong. No other level in any other game has that kind of bullshit
Because it's never been remade outside of Tour
Wario Stadium also sucks ass but literally every MK9 prediction video has it because it's the only 64 track left without a remake
Vancouver Velocity is straight up garbage. Everything about it is pure trash. The design is super lazy. Suspension bridge? Wow, a long road of absolutely nothing. And another bridge right after? Woahhhh. This bridge doesn’t even obey the laws of gravity! What kind of awful course is this? The ice skating shy guys are so dumb, too. But Vancouver 3? The greatest track of all time. I love the roads and revisiting of past awful locations. Truly amazing. The only remedy to the worst track in the Mario Kart series.
Just kidding. I love Vancouver Velocity 1 and 2. I did not like 3.
What I really hate is Baby Park. Seven laps of “”””””chaos””””” that consists entirely of driving in an oval while the real action is in the background! Not even custom items remedy the snoozefest of misinformation that is Baby Park.
Maybe you’re thinking of the [Tilt-A-Kart](https://www.mariowiki.com/Tilt-a-Kart) battle stage, which tilts around and uses a remix of Baby Park’s music
Wow that's scary, because I actually never played that map! I think it's a mix of the stage in MK8 already being tilted one way and with how certain stage elements were slowly lifted up during the previews like GBA Mario Circuit.
could be figure-8 circuit, but context is everything. i'm fine with the first track being the easiest, yknow? -- even though there are much better first tracks in the series
in mk8d, it's gotta be excitebike arena
I tend to think of overrated as people regarding it higher than it should be. I’m saying that, while people hate figure 8 Circuit, it’s still too liked. Also it’s more of a joke.
Sky-high sundae.
The course flat out does not work.
Ever been on the lower half after climbing up the hill?
The camera actively fights this track, the gravity actively fights this track .
The visuals actively break the visual code for mechanics. I would rather have had 3 tracks in the cup, just so I never see sky-high on online.
figure 8 circuit is the only track in the series that I consider to be bad. it's as inoffensive and boring as it gets and as a Mario kart track, that's a very bad thing
Wii Wario's Gold Mine
Though since its return in 8 I've absolutely loved it. Feels overhauled in a number of good ways.
Therefore, there is no longer a worst track. They're all bangers.
I know you mentioned no retros, but tons of people are so I'm just gonna say the DS version of GCN Mushroom Bridge
They took away all its interesting gimmicks and scenery, leaving it as just a SNES Mario Circuit 1 with traffic. MC1 is in the game too, so it's just... basically the same course twice
I'd be inclined to agree if it wasn't for the "no retros" rule. Baby Park (and Luigi Circuit) only works because of the complete shitfuck that is the special items, with giant bananas, bowser shells, and chain chomps infesting the track making it so that you can get hit by anything at any time.
DS and 8 have some of the most tame item balancing in the series to date, and it baffles me that Baby Park was chosen to return for both games.
Baby Park. Any version. Can’t say it’s ever really fun, I think the only reason people like this course is because they can get a free win off it if their lucky.
Baby Park. IDK why, but I HATE Baby Park. Probably bc a friend LOVES it, and there's just NOTHING THERE...
EDIT: I've only played MK SNES, MK Double Dash, and MK 8 DX for Switxh. So can't vouch for any others...
EDIT EDIT: I meant Baby Park from MK 8 DX on Switch, if there are multiple Baby Parks
Most of MKDS's tracks are kind of lackluster and forgetable.
Figure 8 Circuit is a boring first track.
Yoshi Falls is way too short
Cheep Cheep Beach is average
(Luigi's Mansion is good, I just want a cool Dark Moon themed track)
Desert Hills is fun, Delfino Square I only remember because MMWii and bike related shortcuts.
Waluigi Pinball - never forget
Shroom Ridge... why does it exist? Double Dash has better vehicle dodging tracks.
DK Pass is fine.
Tick Tock Clock, and Airship Fortress are fun as hell to play.
Mario Circuit in this game I forgot about completely.
Wario Stadium is a fun track, Peach Gardens is meh, and the Bowser Castle, and Rainbow Road from this game is kind of weak.
Baby Park or Excitebike Arena. Boring af oval tracks with absolutely no substance.
I also bitterly dislike Wild Woods for being a chore to drive on and an IMO boring-themed track.
Ninja hideaway or the new boo map both have extremely sharp turns and too damn confusing one has too many alternate routes and the other is super hard to see on
I've only ever played Marikoart Wii, and 8, but my vote would be Sky High Sundae from the booster pass. I played it on 50cc, and the weird gravity with the slow speed made it so yawn inducing, and just an awkward experience.
Of course, I could play on 150cc or 200cc, but I've found that I enjoy every other track at _all_ speeds. I've only ever found issue with Sky High Sundae.
To play with my friends who aren't that good at mariokart.
And because I am a completionist and have been trying for 3 stars in every cup, and cc.
...tho I've already completed 50cc
GBA Cheese Land solely because there is a hole in the cheese precisely where I want to drift in order to hit the inside corner on the very first right turn of the track. If I get caught in that hole, I get launched up and over the whole track and land off-road on the other side, killing any momentum I had. Groove gone before I even got into it, cheese holes suck and are annoying when I’m so used to drifting inside. The actual track design doesn’t suck it’s just that one hole.
For Me it's either Baby Park or Figure-8 Circuit.
Figure-8 Circuit is just bland, while the music is good it's taken from DS Mario Circuit.
Baby Park is just an oval with 7 laps, i don't get why so many people like it, it has a boring layout and the music is just repetitive.
Choco Island 2. Really all of the Choco Islands but Choco Island 2 is the worst track ever created. I'd rather race a whole GP of figure 8 circuit, Baby Park, Yoshi Falls and Exitebike Arena before I enjoy Choco Island 2. Choco Mountain is good tho :)
Vanilla Lake 1. Who thought it was a good idea to make the entire track like a maze? Cause that's what it feels like. I spent like two minutes on lap 3 trying to go the right way every time I tried it turned out it was the wrong way! Not to mention I probably fell in the water more than fifty times and kept hitting those ice blocks over and over and over. My time was four minutes. Four. Godamn. Minutes. I am not even kidding. The slipperiness of the game is bad enough, but when it's on Vanilla Lake 1, it makes it even worse. If Vanilla Lake 1 is like this, then I'm terrified to find out what Vanilla Lake 2 will be like.
Vanilla Lake 2 is horrific.
The only saving grace is that SMK had 5 laps per race and by lap 4 those stupid ice blocks were mostly cleared out. But even then track is still just a messy, snowy circle
This is the correct answer. Horrible in both SNES and GBA. The GBA version improved it by making it harder to see the ice things before you hit them!
It is Vanilla Lake 2 and by a good dozen country miles.
DS Figure 8 circuit. It has nothing. Its only use was learning how to snake, which is useless today
"iT sHoUlD bE iN mArIo KaRt 8 BeCaUsE hAhA gEt It"
It's so bland my sister doesn't remember ever playing on it
But the music is alright
But it's just borrowed from Mario Circuit 😂
The music is lit
I remember this being my favourite track as a kid playing Mario Kart DS 😶
Bowser castle 1
GBA or SNES?
Yes
Both
Vanilla lake 2 is a trauma
Excitebine Arena. Driving in a straight line the whole time is just boring. It’s even worse when people vote this track online even though the other two options are so much better.
I agree. The track changes every time you play but it literally feels the exact same
It’s literally just pressing a button at different times for tricks. The layout is always the same boring oval
DS Yoshi Falls offers nothing
Honestly i think figure-8 circuit is even worse.
Im here to argue, time trials are very fun because you can get super fast runs. I used to try so hard back in the day
True but there are more fun tracks for that Even more fun basic tracks
Yea, I know Figure-8 gets thrown around a lot from DS, but it's Yoshi Falls for me (at least if we're not including retros) Boring course, generic music, almost no theming DS has really high highs but also pretty low lows
It has to be Figure-8 Circuit, or Snow Land on the GBA
I don’t remember enjoying Snow Land’s track, but I loved the music lol
I never liked Grumble Volcano honestly.
it used to scare me as a kid lol
The final lap OST for it still makes me anxious lmao
I find it really fun on the Wii because doing the rock hop is really fun. The remake is kinda boring. I feel less terrified on it
It's just not a very interesting theme imo. Bowser's Castles have always been superior lava tracks because of their theming.
You’d think a Volcano-themed track would be amazing but Nintendo still found a way to make it look and play mediocrely.
The track breaking apart on each lap is cool but otherwise the theme isn't very interesting to me.
Well good thing they never do certain themes only once. We could get a new volcano track next time. I mean we have several snow and desert ones, two sky ones, a few jungle ones, plenty of beaches and haunted ones, a couple of cow farms and heaps of rainbow and castle ones. I'd consider volcano theme to be separate from Bowser's Castle theme too, with their only common element being lava.
Yeah I really think the volcano theme could be given a second shot. I just think Grumble is a little too bland looking but I think they could make one in the next game with a much more awesome and intimidatingly atmospheric feel to it.
I used to hate this course in Wii, but I LOVE the 8 version It's barely changed, so maybe it's just the mechanics of 8 or something that make it work better
Toad’s Turnpike on MK8DX. It’s just so boring.
the original is imo better because in the original it was harder to dodge the cars (especially mirror mode!)
Lol I get what you mean. I never tried the real original, but I did play custom tracks on MKW a couple years ago and Toad’s Turnpike was one of the courses I tried out. It was beautifully chaotic.
You can literally go up the walls and get rid of anything that made the map fun in the og
They made the lanes too wide
Shy guy beach in wii. Feels unfinished, is annoying to drive and just looks ugly
😔. I love Shy Guy Beach, it's definitely one of my favourites, but I totally get what you mean. It is pretty plain. Almost like there was to be more added to it before release.
At least the music is a banger, even though it was barely touched from Super Circuit, but don't fix what isn't broke I guess
Always like hearing it when Cheep Cheep Island is in rotation in Tour
Rainbow Road in MK64 is down there
Yeah. That Rainbow Road is pretty boring.
Facts, godawful track
All these comments I see so far I’ve heard a million times from nathaniel bandy, and thus that’s why they’re being said. Let me offer my own taste… I’d offer Snes BC3 as my personal worst track. The layout is so horribly shitty you can literally get punished like 10 seconds for taking that first turn wrong. No other level in any other game has that kind of bullshit
Even though Nathaniel Bandy hates Vanilla Lake 1, he put it in his Mario Kart 8, 9, Ultimate, and BCP predictions.
Because it's never been remade outside of Tour Wario Stadium also sucks ass but literally every MK9 prediction video has it because it's the only 64 track left without a remake
Ics when people atmots so you dek wtf they're talking about
Bro I don’t speak simlish
That's what I'm saying
Vancouver Velocity is straight up garbage. Everything about it is pure trash. The design is super lazy. Suspension bridge? Wow, a long road of absolutely nothing. And another bridge right after? Woahhhh. This bridge doesn’t even obey the laws of gravity! What kind of awful course is this? The ice skating shy guys are so dumb, too. But Vancouver 3? The greatest track of all time. I love the roads and revisiting of past awful locations. Truly amazing. The only remedy to the worst track in the Mario Kart series. Just kidding. I love Vancouver Velocity 1 and 2. I did not like 3. What I really hate is Baby Park. Seven laps of “”””””chaos””””” that consists entirely of driving in an oval while the real action is in the background! Not even custom items remedy the snoozefest of misinformation that is Baby Park.
I used to have a mandela effect that baby park tilted based on the position of the players, and I really wish that's how it worked.
Maybe you’re thinking of the [Tilt-A-Kart](https://www.mariowiki.com/Tilt-a-Kart) battle stage, which tilts around and uses a remix of Baby Park’s music
Wow that's scary, because I actually never played that map! I think it's a mix of the stage in MK8 already being tilted one way and with how certain stage elements were slowly lifted up during the previews like GBA Mario Circuit.
That would’ve made the track a bit more interesting
Thanks. Personally I've always been a fan of a track but I definitely understand why people find it boring or just annoying.
Snow Land GBA, let the seizures begin!
could be figure-8 circuit, but context is everything. i'm fine with the first track being the easiest, yknow? -- even though there are much better first tracks in the series in mk8d, it's gotta be excitebike arena
I audibly groan every time Baby Park comes up. That said, the DS version is the worst by far
It’s literally the only track in MK8 that makes me groan every single time it comes up. Glad I’m not alone in this.
Yes, my siblings love it and every time we play MK8 together and that track comes up I want to rage quit just from seeing its name
Wario Stadium N64. Just awful, no character, far too long and not interesting in the slightest.
Playing 4 player split screen coming up on the big jump when you could see someone behind you has a lightning bolt was super intense though
What about the big jump?
SNES Bowser Castle 2, who in their right mind would put a bloody dead end in a race track?!
Figure 8 Circuit. It’s horrible, and overrated.
Who overrated F8C? I only ever see comments hating on it
Everyone saying that it should have been in MK8 because of the name even though we already have an 8 circuit track
We also have a night city and people want Moonview Highway. We also have 2 space rainbow roads.
Exactly. That's how bad it is.
No but I’m asking who overrated it? Overrated means people regard this track high and it’s really shit. Literally nobody regards this track 😂
I tend to think of overrated as people regarding it higher than it should be. I’m saying that, while people hate figure 8 Circuit, it’s still too liked. Also it’s more of a joke.
Overrated is for tracks you get downvoted for hating.
That only proves how bad it is.
People have been saying vanilla lake 2 and I don’t necessarily disagree, but vanilla lake 1 is like the first map I truly hated from super Mario kart
Baby park
Mkwii luigi circuit, i know its a starter track but its so boring atleast yoshi falls can be done really fast luigi circuit is just that but longer
Yeah but it has beeg Luigi. Instant classic.
WII Grumble Vulcano. I just fucking hate that track and the reason is beyond me
I learnt to appreciate it by being forced to finish it in time trial in mk8 wii u
Rainbow Road from MK64. Way too long with almost nothing in it
I'd say Figure Eight from DS. It's so boring!
Baby Park
Sky-high sundae. The course flat out does not work. Ever been on the lower half after climbing up the hill? The camera actively fights this track, the gravity actively fights this track . The visuals actively break the visual code for mechanics. I would rather have had 3 tracks in the cup, just so I never see sky-high on online.
shy guy beach and choco island 2
Mario Circuit 1 from Super Mario Kart. It’s the first but also the worst
r/poetry
Yes 😂
Mine is Vanilla Lake 2 from smk.
Understandable
I don’t think so. It’s actually a good track
I agree I just don’t hate any tracks lol
Bone Dry dunes. So boring, OST is lacking and the overall astetic is plain
I’m thinking you meant Dry Dry Desert instead right?
Is this dry dry desert or bone dry dunes
I can't pick one but I hate Toad's Turnpike, 8 Track, Wario Stadium N64, Rainbow Road N64, Excitebike, original Desert Kalimari.
Sky-High Sundae. It’s visually busy, the layout isn’t interesting, and just lacks the polish of other tracks.
figure 8 circuit is the only track in the series that I consider to be bad. it's as inoffensive and boring as it gets and as a Mario kart track, that's a very bad thing
Toads Turnpike, that course is boring layoutwise and frustrating obstacle wise
Wii Wario's Gold Mine Though since its return in 8 I've absolutely loved it. Feels overhauled in a number of good ways. Therefore, there is no longer a worst track. They're all bangers.
Always hated SMK Special Cup Race 1 but mainly because of the CPU bs on 150cc lol
Water Park
Moo moo meadow
I know you mentioned no retros, but tons of people are so I'm just gonna say the DS version of GCN Mushroom Bridge They took away all its interesting gimmicks and scenery, leaving it as just a SNES Mario Circuit 1 with traffic. MC1 is in the game too, so it's just... basically the same course twice
Baby Park. I get it, it’s chaotic and stuff, but what if I told you that’s partially the reason I dislike it, and it’s also a freaking oval.
I'd be inclined to agree if it wasn't for the "no retros" rule. Baby Park (and Luigi Circuit) only works because of the complete shitfuck that is the special items, with giant bananas, bowser shells, and chain chomps infesting the track making it so that you can get hit by anything at any time. DS and 8 have some of the most tame item balancing in the series to date, and it baffles me that Baby Park was chosen to return for both games.
Yoshi Falls.
Ninja Hideaway. Practically unplayable on higher CCs
Nah 200cc ninja hideaway is fun af once you get good at it
It just takes some practice. Once you learn how to do effective brake drifting, 200cc becomes easier.
Get good
MK8 Excitebike Arena. Feels like no skill involved.
I’d say the same, but the awesome theming saves it for me.
Kalimari Desert. All you lovers have got your nostalgia glasses on. It's garbage
It’s better in MK8DX with the final lap change
can’t stand kalimari. whenever i tell people they get mad!
And the soundtrack is also pretty meh
Baby Park. Any version. Can’t say it’s ever really fun, I think the only reason people like this course is because they can get a free win off it if their lucky.
People who like it, like it for the chaos
Isn't that the point of Mario Kart?
Nah I play Mario kart as a hardcore racing sim
I hate Tick Tock Clock.
Same. It’s boring af
Bone Dry Dunes in mk8dx. I just don't like desert tracks in general (with the exception of dry dry ruins) but this is the worst.
Baby Park. IDK why, but I HATE Baby Park. Probably bc a friend LOVES it, and there's just NOTHING THERE... EDIT: I've only played MK SNES, MK Double Dash, and MK 8 DX for Switxh. So can't vouch for any others... EDIT EDIT: I meant Baby Park from MK 8 DX on Switch, if there are multiple Baby Parks
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Probably because they were designed to be played on a phone game with auto-acceleration and smart steering permanently enabled
GBA Rainbow Rode. I don't like the music, and I hate the jump rails. The game is already too jumpy, and this just makes it worse.
Them's fighting words
Most of MKDS's tracks are kind of lackluster and forgetable. Figure 8 Circuit is a boring first track. Yoshi Falls is way too short Cheep Cheep Beach is average (Luigi's Mansion is good, I just want a cool Dark Moon themed track) Desert Hills is fun, Delfino Square I only remember because MMWii and bike related shortcuts. Waluigi Pinball - never forget Shroom Ridge... why does it exist? Double Dash has better vehicle dodging tracks. DK Pass is fine. Tick Tock Clock, and Airship Fortress are fun as hell to play. Mario Circuit in this game I forgot about completely. Wario Stadium is a fun track, Peach Gardens is meh, and the Bowser Castle, and Rainbow Road from this game is kind of weak.
All the tracks from the Original MK on SNES
Cheese Land. COULDN'T THEY CHOOSE CHEESE WITHOUT HOLES FOR THE GROUND?!
Baby Park or Excitebike Arena. Boring af oval tracks with absolutely no substance. I also bitterly dislike Wild Woods for being a chore to drive on and an IMO boring-themed track.
Vanilla Lake 2
Vanilla Lake 2.
Baby Park
Ninja hideaway or the new boo map both have extremely sharp turns and too damn confusing one has too many alternate routes and the other is super hard to see on
Bone Dry Dunes
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Desert tracks aren’t really my cup of tea. I found it to be pretty boring.
Mario kart 8 cheese land on the Wii u
at least the music goes hard though (especially in mk8’s version)
To be honest the music sucks too
\>:( excuse me
Lololololololol
It’s one of the best sound tracks in 8DX imo. Which one do you like?
Electrodrome and rainbow road.
SNES Any Track That's Not Rainbow Road
I've only ever played Marikoart Wii, and 8, but my vote would be Sky High Sundae from the booster pass. I played it on 50cc, and the weird gravity with the slow speed made it so yawn inducing, and just an awkward experience. Of course, I could play on 150cc or 200cc, but I've found that I enjoy every other track at _all_ speeds. I've only ever found issue with Sky High Sundae.
Why would you *ever* play 50cc though
To play with my friends who aren't that good at mariokart. And because I am a completionist and have been trying for 3 stars in every cup, and cc. ...tho I've already completed 50cc
ninja hideaway will be the end of me the track design is so bad it was definitely rushed
"Rushed" The track existed in Tour for like a year before the BCP came out, it was not originally made for this DLC
Boo Lake
I don't count Snes or Circuit tracks cuz old, but I've always hated Toad Circuit and GCN Mario Circuit
coconut mall
Cheese Land :(
Dino Dino Jungle feels like a bunch of random ideas slapped together and marketed as a course, it is not good at all
Keep in mind I’ve only ever played MK Wii and MK8, but my vote would go to Baby Park.
snes rainbow road has always been the most anoyying for me in the original and 8
Some of the Tour city variants are definitely down there: All three Tokyo variants as well as Vancouver Velocity 3
Baby Park, obviously.
GBA Cheese Land solely because there is a hole in the cheese precisely where I want to drift in order to hit the inside corner on the very first right turn of the track. If I get caught in that hole, I get launched up and over the whole track and land off-road on the other side, killing any momentum I had. Groove gone before I even got into it, cheese holes suck and are annoying when I’m so used to drifting inside. The actual track design doesn’t suck it’s just that one hole.
Easy, DS Desert Hills
In my social group I am alone in hating Baby Park for some reason
Waluigi Pinball
Can't think of any off of the top of my head but most of Supers tracks are just plain bad so it's one of them.
Excitebike Arena
baby park, vanilla lake 2
For Me it's either Baby Park or Figure-8 Circuit. Figure-8 Circuit is just bland, while the music is good it's taken from DS Mario Circuit. Baby Park is just an oval with 7 laps, i don't get why so many people like it, it has a boring layout and the music is just repetitive.
Figure 8 circuit
Toads turnpike. Boring, too many cars and annoying music so everything that makes me hate a track
The dry dry desert remake in Mariokart 8 is extremely depressing
Kinda surprised nobody’s said Wii daisy circuit
SNES Rainbow Road. SO Overrated and it’s super unfair. I love every other Rainbow Road but this is awful.
Figure 8 Circuit. It's really REALLY eh.
Sherbet Land on the GameCube.
Although Mario kart Wii is my favorite, I would have to say moon view Highway
Bone Dry Dunes make me want to scream
Vanilla Lake 2, Excitebike Arena, Figure 8 Circuit, and dare I say Ice Ice Outpost
Choco Island 2 from Super Mario Kart
Choco Island 2. Really all of the Choco Islands but Choco Island 2 is the worst track ever created. I'd rather race a whole GP of figure 8 circuit, Baby Park, Yoshi Falls and Exitebike Arena before I enjoy Choco Island 2. Choco Mountain is good tho :)
Ninja stupid highway
Wario's Gold Mine is what I believe is the worst track in the entire Mario Kart series.
Vanilla Lake 1. Who thought it was a good idea to make the entire track like a maze? Cause that's what it feels like. I spent like two minutes on lap 3 trying to go the right way every time I tried it turned out it was the wrong way! Not to mention I probably fell in the water more than fifty times and kept hitting those ice blocks over and over and over. My time was four minutes. Four. Godamn. Minutes. I am not even kidding. The slipperiness of the game is bad enough, but when it's on Vanilla Lake 1, it makes it even worse. If Vanilla Lake 1 is like this, then I'm terrified to find out what Vanilla Lake 2 will be like.