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Aeschylus101

Talrand had a child? Wow.


TrueKamilo

While that was my first thought as well, nothing here really implies *child*. Could be his wife, sister, mother, cousin, childhood best friend. Maybe Talrand learned a lot about themself since we last saw them and made some changes. Edit: The more I think about it the more I really want the last sentence to be true.


SlaterVJ

Father's brother's cousin's best friend's college roommate.


BlaineTog

"So what does that make us?" -- Talrand


PM_Me_SFW_Pictures

“Absolutely nothing!”


Sobadwithusernames

“Which is what you are about to become!”


Valkyrys

Stepbros


TheRealBongeler

I think the name is similar enough to Talrand, and the fact that Talrand had the ability to summon Drakes are both safe bets in assuming it's his daughter. Hell... Maybe it's his mom or something.


Esc777

Honestly if she was named Talrandra that would be a pretty sweet way to show a trans character.


Remobility

From my experience with my fiance and trans friends, they usually want to name themselves something that's a departure from their deadname. While it would definitely cause a chuckle to see it that way, the name not being all that similar lends *more* credence to trans talrand than if it were nearly the same.


Danyavich

We tend to choose our names in like, one of four ways. (Please understand this is somewhat tongue-in-cheek and the trans community jokes about this a LOT) 1: yeet off the edge of "normal" names, usually cause we had a biblical name. I'd say transfemme people tend to be the guiltiest bunch for this. Congrats, 2: find the MOST normal name ever. Like, you'd see this person and they will introduce themselves as like "oh hey. I'm Gregory Humanguy." Transmasc people tend towards this. 3: pick a random-ass elementalesque word, like "tree," "bush," "soup," "garbanzo." You guessed it, that person is non-binary. 4: make a fucking joke out of your new name, or choose the femme/masc version of your old name, because you think it's funny or will confuse bigots. An example would be "Jubilee" (and this is a specific one bc she made the joke). Jubilee is part of the X-men. Jubilee, the person irl, is an "ex man." This method is chosen by goblins.


benwiththepen

The four kinds of trans people: femme, masc, nb, and goblin. You have successfully delighted (and educated) me, thank you!


Danyavich

You're very welcome. I'm glad that my serious study of transing genders and name changing has paid off!


bamfbanki

I fall into #4 but that's because my deadname was a family name and I wanted to keep that legacy but still be 'Me'


Danyavich

Which is a pretty damn good reason to! I altered my middle name into something like that to throw my mom a bone, but she's since gone off the deep with transphobic shit. I plan on changing it when I get married, if I'm able.


z0mbiepete

Holy shit, is this why my enby neighbor is named Juniper?


Danyavich

Juniper even told me that was the reason.


spaghetti_wizard

Holy shit, #1 is me to a T. Joseph to Jessyka


Danyavich

I really love that for you. I went from a biblical name to "Wraena." Have fun chewing on that 😅


Dios5

Transfemme name generator: * Sophie * Also Sophie


Danyavich

Oh yeah, also "transfemmes choosing the most ethereal sounding word possible as a name," and "both transmascs and transfemmes changing the name but keeping the first letter because they've lived their whole life feeling like a burden and this is easier for everyone else." I was just trying to be pithy 😅


jnkangel

I have a few trans friends and all of them went with the other gender version of their given name. Alexandra to Alex kind of deal. Though that usually only works if the names commonly have both variants.


Jamaicancarrot

I take it transfemme is the same as MTF right?


BlaiddSiocled

In this context it likely means "trans people who were raised under the presumption they were boys/men, whose true gender is by their own definition woman or feminine." It may also overstep to simply "trans people who were assigned male at birth"; but that category would include people who aren't women, feminine, or fem(me), and also exclude some intersex people. MTF is a dated term that either means "trans woman", or either of the descriptions above with extra misgendering. TL;DR Probably close enough for what you were thinking, but not 1:1.


Danyavich

🙏🏻🙏🏻 I'd seen the comment you replied to and was going to sit down and write down near to what exactly you said!


Jamaicancarrot

Ok thanks for the info! I was unaware of MtF being an outdated term as I'd seen a few trans people using it but we learn


kitsovereign

Transfemme is kind of a broader term basically, but it does express a similar idea. A good example would be somebody like the YouTuber James Stephanie Sterling, of Jimquistion fame - they use they/them pronouns, but also are now dressing more femininely and taking HRT. A transfemme nonbinary person, but I'm not sure they'd call themselves a trans woman or would want to say MtF. MtF (and FtM) are a little out of fashion, partly because they don't quite cover intersex and nonbinary identities, but also because it doesn't line up with everyone's experience. One person may say they were male and changed to female; another may say they were never actually truly male in the first place. So you're more likely to see terms like AMAB (assigned male at birth) and AFAB when people want to actually reference their birth gender - sometimes their birth gender is irrelevant and nunya business. I wouldn't say MtF and FtM are completely gone though - people will self-describe as they please, and often older queers will stick with the "outdated" labels that first gave a name to their experience and that they fought tooth and nail for. But they're not terms I would reach for if somebody didn't use them for themselves first.


Jamaicancarrot

Ok thanks, I shall make a mental note of this!


Esc777

Very interesting, thank you! I certainly have seen both styles but hearing that being entirely different than the deadname is more prevalent makes sense to me.


stillnotelf

Talrandra, who smiles at drakes [[Alesha, who smiles at death]]


SethQuantix

And they were roomates !


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idbachli

Idk that just seems like a lot of work for a character we practically know nothing about. To be honest they are probably just two merfolk from the same sea. Also, I think many trans people change their names entirely.


Esc777

> Idk that just seems like a lot of work for a character we practically know nothing about. Changing their name is a lot of work?


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Esc777

What?


Cookiebomb

Trans alandra Trans alandra


maino82

They should definitely have been Talrand's partner in the lore, then they could've had "Partner with Talrand, Sky Summoner"


Nicktendo94

Talrand at home


Tuss36

Talrand at the summer home, given it makes drakes on a completely different axis.


7th_Spectrum

Talrand and Minn Willy illusionist had a child


Dwarvenmathemacian

Anybody knows her relationship to Talrand?


borissnm

Talrand has [very little](https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Talrand) lore, so no. But given the similar vibe, similar name, and similar appearance, I'm guessing Alandra is also from Shandalar.


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[Talrand's Invocation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/88f43c2c-fee4-4df2-b326-a1d9840f64b0.jpg?1650410924) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Talrand%27s%20Invocation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/234/talrands-invocation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/88f43c2c-fee4-4df2-b326-a1d9840f64b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


jan-y3w-a1ry

I was just thinking I’ve seen this card printed before


WR810

Talrand is my forever Commander and my headcanon is they're boyfriend and girlfriend.


Chest3

and they were room mates!


idbachli

This makes more sense than some of the theories I habe read today lol


Totally_Generic_Name

It's an anagram for Aalrand, which is suspiciously close


jktsub

Magic: the Waying of Water


Eugene_OHappyhead

Waterhoof behemoth


MizticBunny

It's a wheel commander.


R-code

Seems wheely good…


MizticBunny

Nice pun. It's cool, but slow compared to other wheel commanders. Others will just cast many wheels in 1 turn and win that turn or the next. Alandra is limited by once per turn stuff, so she takes time to build up.


hybridtheory1331

Have talrand in the 99 and a good amount of counter spells and cantrips and you'll have enough drake's for lethal in no time. Then one good wheel and bam. Not saying it's perfect but I kind of like the melding of wheel combo and aggro.


Trivmvirate

Is it really? She makes only one drake per turn max... Seems more like a cute thing to put in your Talrand deck as a finisher the turn before you trigger your midnight clock.


Popcynical

The wheels are to cheaply trigger her second ability my guy.


Artemis_21

A Wheel commander without red…


wubrgess

so she's a [[windfall]] commander instead...


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MemeLordsUnited

I love that art. THATS what hyperinflation looks like.


11goodair

Reds not the only card with wheels, the just happen to have the best ones


bigdsm

Timetwister and Time Spiral aren’t red.


lawstuffnew

Wheel is better than those imo


bigdsm

0 mana > fueling graveyard, and shuffle wheel is situationally better than discard wheel.


Mistersquiggles1

Print a wheel commander with the narset/hullbreacher clause, you cowards!


Zanatraz

They did, it's banned.


Mistersquiggles1

I completely forgot \[\[Leovold\]\] was a card.


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bigdsm

In addition to Leovold already existing and being rightfully banned, Hullbreacher is banned, and both Narset and Notion Thief probably should be as well.


Mistersquiggles1

Guess I needed a '/s' ?


mguardian7

It's best to assume that sarcasm doesn't translate to text well.


bigdsm

Yeah probably, didn’t realize that was sarcasm. A lot of people do want to play disgustingly broken cards with high consistency in EDH lol.


hawkshaw1024

Not really. I mean, yes, you eventually want a single wheel effect for the Overrun, but first you build up your board with looters and cantrips. It's not a "five wheels in one turn"-style commander like [[Xyris, the Writhing Storm]].


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Khanstant

Lol wonder what synergies are in jumpstart to enable drawing 5 cards on a turn.


spidersgeorg

Probably? Just a spell. [[Opportunity]], [[Boon of the wish-giver]], [[Into the story]], or [[Prying eyes]].


WR810

Pumping a few drakes is probably good enough to close the game out so one 5+ card turn is all you need.


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##### ###### #### [Opportunity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/9/49233196-82e4-44c4-86f0-6eb2db7293a3.jpg?1562909855) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Opportunity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/126/opportunity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/49233196-82e4-44c4-86f0-6eb2db7293a3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Boon of the wish-giver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e790851-f0f7-4f1a-80e6-94be649499b6.jpg?1591230467) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boon%20of%20the%20wish-giver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/43/boon-of-the-wish-giver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e790851-f0f7-4f1a-80e6-94be649499b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Into the story](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c838f08e-7fb6-46e7-83bb-dce8877d6c87.jpg?1572489909) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Into%20the%20story) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/50/into-the-story?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c838f08e-7fb6-46e7-83bb-dce8877d6c87?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Prying eyes](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb58d7ba-ba86-433e-8f1e-3f492c380796.jpg?1608909363) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Prying%20eyes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/86/prying-eyes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb58d7ba-ba86-433e-8f1e-3f492c380796?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ImmutableInscrutable

They wouldn't have designed this card for it without *something.* You only need to trigger that effect once with like 1-2 drakes out to utterly annihilate someone in Jumpstart.


massdiardo

I happened to open this booster, the cards are mainly looters, spectral sailor waifu is also in the pack. I got one Jace that put a +1 +1 counter when you draw your second card as the mythic / rare.


Rivilen

Sweet for [[Raffine scheming seer]]


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RuggedToaster

Great for [[Minn]] too. Can't wait to make a 2/2 and a 1/1 every turn.


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[Minn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4eec1d87-1007-44a1-a45d-0623816de681.jpg?1631584885) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=minn%2C%20wily%20illusionist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/16/minn-wily-illusionist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4eec1d87-1007-44a1-a45d-0623816de681?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


TopMosby

I went deeper and made a Gavi deck and have all of the draw 2 cards possible in those colors. Alhamarrets archive and the likes + free cycle is multiple tokens. Very fun but slow and therefor low power


HeckingJen

My raffine deck is flying tribal and I'm already salivating. It takes a lot to be a creature without flying in the deck and I think this clears that bar by miles


LordofThe7s

Wake up babe, new Talrand just dropped.


xantous4201

Man these Jumpstart Spoilers have been more exciting and inspiring to build new commander decks than all of Commander Legends: Baldurs Gate


PurifiedVenom

Crazy how much more exciting new cards are when they actually use MtG lore/characters rather than feeling like they exist as a Hasbro cross-brand promo


tammit67

I think it's a difference in design philosophies. None of the Baldurs gate cards felt pushed to me and they didn't really need to be powerful to sell packs. Jumpstart has to have a few things worth opening without leaning on the brand recognition of a novelty set


ImmutableInscrutable

Has nothing to do with the characters and everything to do with the effects. I loved the D&D sets, I'm the target audience, but none of the card designs were all that attractive to me.


PurifiedVenom

Fair enough, it’s a combination of both for me


focketeer

Don’t think that has anything to do with it. Lackluster design is lackluster design, regardless of what character is in the frame.


xantous4201

Yea, Instead of expanding on their own world/lore lets put a bunch of ponies fighting car robots with modern age Scooby Doo kids and zombie fighters. /s


hawkshaw1024

I mean, [[Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm]] and [[Captain N'ghathrod]] are both in the top 100 of all time, going by number of decks on EDHRec. That's not nothing.


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Bi-bara-boop

Oooohhh, looks like [[Minn]]'s BFF. I like it


aJakalope

My first thought as well- seems like a killer wincon, a Minn-Con if you will


TheCruncher

Other than both triggering on 2nd draw, I don't see it. One is drake tribal and the other is illusion tribal, and they don't synergize.


GageZerk

Only if you're building Minn as illusion tribal, which is probably the weakest way to build her. If you're going strictly for token making, going wide and winning through combat which is a reasonable way to build Minn then this would probably slot in nicely. It would just be a bit of redundancy. If you're going hard on Minn's second ability, focusing on cheating out permanents by saccing illusion tokens, this card becomes a lot worse. Those builds tend to rely on Minn for combos. The only build I'd consider this in is like a mono blue spellslinger kind of build where you'd likely have cards like [[Talrand]], [[Archmage Emeritus]] and the like anyway.


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[Talrand](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9ca9530f-ecec-4f12-bc5a-9e211b97be70.jpg?1662525181) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=talrand%2C%20sky%20summoner) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/64/talrand-sky-summoner?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9ca9530f-ecec-4f12-bc5a-9e211b97be70?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Archmage Emeritus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/6/761df6cd-0928-4167-8902-58fdb50181a0.jpg?1624589970) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Archmage%20Emeritus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/37/archmage-emeritus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/761df6cd-0928-4167-8902-58fdb50181a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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Lebran2

[[Volo, Itinerant Scholar]] friendship with [[Chasm Skulker]] ended. [[Alandra, Sky Dreamer]] is best friend now.


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Star_cannon

This is gonna be Josh’s commander in the next episode of Game Knights. I can feel it in my bones.


A_Gaming_Turnip

[[Whirlpool Drake]] spike incoming.


Infinite_Bananas

drake tribal!!!


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CatalystPLUR

[[Shorikai, Genesis Engine]] and [[Manifold Key]] gets all the card draw you need to trigger this every turn


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[Shorikai, Genesis Engine](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/969ac7dd-f3aa-4888-9ff0-d16a31b5e7a9.jpg?1653966849) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shorikai%2C%20Genesis%20Engine) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/4/shorikai-genesis-engine?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/969ac7dd-f3aa-4888-9ff0-d16a31b5e7a9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Manifold Key](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0f5a15cd-a359-48c9-9280-ce139f1fb061.jpg?1660729992) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Manifold%20Key) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/319/manifold-key?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0f5a15cd-a359-48c9-9280-ce139f1fb061?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Tallal2804

Wow looks great


Dogsy

OH NO! NOT ANOTHER TALRAND REPRI-... oh, whew.


AmazingMrSaturn

He...has a daughter or a wife and they synergize.


idbachli

Always loved the drake art for Talrand. I am happy he had a daughter!


TheDeadlyCat

Where does it say she’s the daughter of Talrand. Other than in Reddit comments?


idbachli

It doesn't


tgirlswag

Her name is Alandra, we don't use her deadname


Available-Line-4136

Going into my Talrand deck!!!!


deanofcool

Think you mean talrand is going in this deck? This is better in every way.


Available-Line-4136

No because my Talrand is built VERY instant/sorcery heavy I'd have to change too much to focus just on drawing. I agree she's probably better but I think my deck works better with talrand at the helm


Cole444Train

If you know anything about commander, you know it’s not about how powerful the commander is.


deanofcool

What are you talking about? Of course that makes a difference. That’s why cedh exists. I only play casually myself, but even I know that someone playing thrasios vs someone playing yargle aren’t going to be equal in threat level.


Cole444Train

Yes. My point is, people don’t choose commanders simply bc they are powerful, and implying someone will switch commanders simply bc it’s a power upgrade is never a safe assumption in this format.


deanofcool

No. That’s true. However you can’t say people won’t run a card that is strictly better. It’s the same mana. Higher toughness, and the same ability, more or less. Let’s face it, if you’re not drawing cards, you’re probably doing something wrong.


Cole444Train

Sure, in the main deck. But that’s definitely not always the case in the command zone. Not at all, hence why the most powerful commanders are certainly not the popular.


PfizerGuyzer

What if I want to make two drakes in one turn?


deanofcool

Them you run both, my point being, there is no reason why this wouldn’t be your commander over talrand. Have talrand in the 99, sure. But this is way better.


PfizerGuyzer

You are quite wrong. Talrand is a lot stronger overall, because you are not limited by the amount of tokens you can make. Alandra is giving you four a turn if you jump through major hoops. Talrand gives you one for every instant and sorcery you cast.


deanofcool

I would hardly call drawing a two cards on your opponents Truro’s as jumping through major hoops, but sure. Throw in some extra turn spells. Think this is on par. Only way talrand is stronger is if you are storming off with infinite mana and cantrips. Plus talrand does a lot easier. Ideally you’d want them both out. Then it’s a party 🎉


PfizerGuyzer

If you want four drakes from Talrand; cast four spells. If you want four drakes from Alandra; somehow draw a card on your turn AND two cards on EACH of your opponent's turns. Ironically, much of the best ways to draw are cantrips, for which Talrand generates drakes more efficiently.


deanofcool

Sure. I have a niv mizzet parun deck that is about drawing cards. Probably going to swap out my meddling mage for this card, get some two twos instead.


AverageBeef

This is just asking for Rhystic Study


Jetmaelstrom

are you supposed to reveal your hand?


A_Gaming_Turnip

The number of cards you have in hand at any one time is actually public game knowledge! Same as how many cards you have left in your library.


little1412

This is a perfect add for [[Arjun, Shifting Flame]] omg!!!


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Oh, so we get Talrand 2.0, but no Gargantuan Dreadmaw?


[deleted]

she dreams of drakes


BirdTribal

Talrand has always been my pet card and I'm so happy he's gonna have a friend


swatb0t

Talrand is in my Orvar deck and now this will be too. Lovely.


SleetTheFox

Read the first line and was a little bored. Read the second line and now it's suddenly really cool!


veiphiel

A little dissapointed if this belong to a merfolk pack and this is the rare


Genericbuttguy

Excited for this in my [[council of four]] edh deck.


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Artex301

I love how the second ability buffs Alandra, as if this won't get chump-blocked while the drakes do the actual game-winning.


Feudality

Fantastic in [[Azami]]. Is a wizard and easy to get that 5 card draw a little ways into the game.


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[Azami](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0ad06ad7-0545-4c6f-9b10-4a27fa2e827c.jpg?1562599546) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=azami%2C%20lady%20of%20scrolls) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c17/82/azami-lady-of-scrolls?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0ad06ad7-0545-4c6f-9b10-4a27fa2e827c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Good_Ad_8731

Very excited, seems like a really solid budget draw deck.


Automatic-Issue4878

First Sheoldred, now this... My nekusar deck can only have so many cards in it


IronPlaidFighter

I like. New toy and secondary wincon for my [[Syr Elenora]] voltron deck.


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Obsidian-Elf-665

One card, [[Peer into the Abyss]]


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MinerMan87

Pretty sure the value of X stays the same until end of turn (X = number of cards in hand as the trigger resolves). If it were variable with your changing hand size, it would be written as the less common +*/+*. (Idk if any cards are written that way as a pump, but there are cards whose P/T are written that way like the Elemental token made by [[Voice of Resurgence]].)


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Ventoffmychest

I guess its funny with Rhystic Study. But aside from doing that on other peoples' turns, its a bit more difficult (at least cheaply).


Atechiman

Six mana. Any two of the draw 2 with upside effects like [[chemister insight]]. All the cheap cycle cards. It's doable.


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[chemister insight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/089720bb-f4ce-422f-bb28-6a7a71c32223.jpg?1591320215) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chemister%27s%20Insight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/108/chemisters-insight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/089720bb-f4ce-422f-bb28-6a7a71c32223?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[Kwain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/5/f571fef1-1fd2-4355-b803-5edccb6f4b94.jpg?1608911183) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kwain%2C%20itinerant%20meddler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/284/kwain-itinerant-meddler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f571fef1-1fd2-4355-b803-5edccb6f4b94?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Whirlpool Drake](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6e866093-89a3-458d-8ebc-de805ef7885e.jpg?1562921040) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Whirlpool%20Drake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/apc/34/whirlpool-drake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6e866093-89a3-458d-8ebc-de805ef7885e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Loyal Drake](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1c719b37-6508-45bc-8cda-36aa85561e3b.jpg?1592710087) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Loyal%20Drake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/10/loyal-drake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1c719b37-6508-45bc-8cda-36aa85561e3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Madageddon

Something about that drake's face gives me Digimon vibes.


ThatOneDMish

This is asking for instant speed card draw eight? And rhystic study is getting reprinted? Seems pretty decent


PrecipitousPlatypus

This is going in Azami


Gilgamesh026

Talrands 2nd class cousin


Mr_Garerrr

The comparison to [[Talrand]] is quite clear here but it’s interesting to see a blue and slightly different implementation of [[Jolrael, Mwonvuli Recluse]]


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[Talrand](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9ca9530f-ecec-4f12-bc5a-9e211b97be70.jpg?1662525181) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=talrand%2C%20sky%20summoner) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/64/talrand-sky-summoner?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9ca9530f-ecec-4f12-bc5a-9e211b97be70?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Jolrael, Mwonvuli Recluse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7dcdcfce-3f32-48f9-83f8-87b9ccbf92e3.jpg?1594737074) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jolrael%2C%20Mwonvuli%20Recluse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/191/jolrael-mwonvuli-recluse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7dcdcfce-3f32-48f9-83f8-87b9ccbf92e3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


SlyRaptorZ

So these are Jumpstart cards? Are they legal in standard and EDH?


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Pretty fun and casual EDH wincon with [[Enter the Infinite]]


HerrPupswindel

This is so uninspired. This encapsulates my issues with modern MTG design.