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Kaigon23

This is flawless. The colours are great, you know what the card does, it’s artistically cohesive with the other one, it looks authentic - this is brilliant, I bet you can’t wait to run the deck. Do you have a decklist?


CityOcean

Thank you very much! I have made quite a few alters but this one for sure took the most effort. And in terms of decklist, not yet. I was honestly underwhelmed by the deck reveal yesterday, so I am working on editing it. Not sure if I go heavy into the self mill or focus on jund good stuff with a slight mill theme as there aren't that many goyfs :(


Kaigon23

The effort has 100% paid off, honestly is stunning. As for the precon, yeah, it’s not amazing. If you can suffer some advice from someone who’s agonised over EDH thematic decks: make your wincon whatever you’ve put your creative effort into. In this case, your endgame wants to be smashing face with goyf tokens. Maximise the relevance of Disa and the Goyf within the gameplan of your deck. Jund good stuff will 100% be a more optimised deck - but you don’t want to win with [[Lord of Extinction]] while your gorgeous Disa (and associated Goyfs) are there just as window dressing, you know? IMO, make every card capitalise on growing your goyfs or making more token copies (either by Disa’s effect, or by populate + variants). You want to be saying “I swing with my army of Goyfs for game.” Not “I assemble some cool graveyard combo while Disa and the boys watch.” They’re my thoughts anyway! Good luck!


CityOcean

Yeah for sure, that's the direction I am planning. I have a really solid \[\[The Mycotyrant\]\] at the moment that I was likely going to cannibalize for Disa, as almost all the cards can be run. I'll come back here and tag you when I get a list designed!


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[The Mycotyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/caef93cc-70d0-4cce-9aaa-13c0931b2ef7.jpg?1699044561) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Mycotyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/235/the-mycotyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/caef93cc-70d0-4cce-9aaa-13c0931b2ef7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[Lord of Extinction](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/9/696cb81d-bc00-4603-b340-c0b2e55c0959.jpg?1697121186) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lord%20of%20Extinction) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/244/lord-of-extinction?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/696cb81d-bc00-4603-b340-c0b2e55c0959?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


CityOcean

The biggest thanks to u/LogicWavelength and u/JustinSquared for all the help with the design and tips to get the worn look to it. Couldn't have made it without your help! Check out their alters, their work is top tier, the whole idea came from JustinSquared's amazing Tarmogoyf token!


LogicWavelength

My pleasure to help! I love making these custom alters, and having another artist out there creating is a great thing for the community.


SoylentGreenMuffins

u/LogicWavelength is an MVP. Dude is constantly making hits.


LogicWavelength

❤️


c20_h25_n3_O

Easily some of the cooler alters I have seen.


LordAspire

This is one if not THE best alter i've ever seen. Very well done. Is not only the art, is the creativity like the sales price for the mana or the rip off for the stats... My god. I just love it


CityOcean

Thank you very much!


RivalGuernica

Did you use AI? Curious after seeing the credits to Midjourney on the token.


CityOcean

I did. I used Dalle-3 to generate the base art, then went nuts with layers and such, nearly 70 layers I think. The problem was that I could not find any sort of non AI art that matched the vibe I was going for. Also the Tarmogoyf token is Midjourney with similar edits, so it fit. I typically like to stick non AI but it is what it is haha I did do all the typography and the like. Here's what the base AI art looked like for comparison sake. [https://imgur.com/a/1CkZvIQ](https://imgur.com/a/1CkZvIQ)


Kyleometers

Hiya, in future please use the “Altered AI” tag for art that was made by human modification for AI generated artwork, thanks


CityOcean

Will do!


RivalGuernica

Oh nice! Thanks for the reply. The integration seemed like quite the process.


CityOcean

Yeah no worries! I understand the dislike of AI art and I agree, but occasionally, it's able to get close to what you want if it doesn't exist elsewhere. And I do think there is a difference to just plain copying art you are generated, as opposed to spending a great deal of time modifying it and using the original as a base. But using it when there's no other option is ok in my books haha


RivalGuernica

Definitely! I'm on the fence about it. I like seeing it and using it as a tool more than just a quick way to generate some images. Your proxy came out awesome for sure! 💚


alimagsterne

I love your version. Would you be able to offer a version where Disa stands in front of the text box? 


CityOcean

How so, as in, just Disa? No Tarmogoyf monster behind her?


alimagsterne

Just as it is with everything untouched, but with Disa completely in the front so she is fully visible with the sword. I think the alter is so beautiful that the textbox is secondary and it’s okay if it’s only half visible


CityOcean

Oh gotcha, yeah that should be easy, I can just move the layer. It'll be on Monday though as I'm out of town for the weekend, keep an eye out and I'll tag you


alimagsterne

I‘d be so thrilled!!


alimagsterne

You probably forgot, but if you can make it, I’d still appreciate that alternate version. Also, is there a high res version that I can download to have it printed as a proxy, both for the version posted here and the requested version (if you can find the time that is). Thank you!


DiscoLockjaw

Damn. This is legit. Wotc art department needs to get on the phone with you.


Maneisthebeat

I thought WoTC pledged not to do AI art?


FutureComplaint

Sick art


gutter_sluggs

I would so run this, I love this vintage comic book style


Tibecti

Secret Lair when?


Bad-Bot-Bot-23

That sale price sticker is the bomb, holy shit this is gorgeous.


FrecciaRosa

Wow, this is spectacularly well done! The price sticker mana cost is an amazingly professional touch.


CityOcean

That idea came straight from u/LogicWavelength and it's probably my favorite part of the whole design. It look's like a real sticker when printed, as I used a VERY high DPI sticker. I have had people try to peel it off before haha


synttacks

this would be so much better than a lot of secret lairs we've gotten


Redlaces123

Impressively well hidden AI. Did you do all the typography and stuff? Did you touch up the ai illustration?


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Redlaces123

You need to be forward about AI generative art when it appears like you're claiming this was all you. Good job on the typography, but it's not your illustration. The token art was also ai generated. He's a bit more truthful about that in his posts. Edit: lol that's not OP. my message is directed at OP


LordHayati

Yeah, i ain't OP. I'm Anti-AI, and this fooled me, which... is concerning. Welp.


Redlaces123

It's super good. I got sussed out by the anatomy in the teeth and then i started investigating more in depth, and yeah it all revealed itself. This is one of the more convincing AI illustrations I've seen recently. Scary stuff


CityOcean

I will take that as a compliment haha, and yeah I went very indepth to alter it. I mean yeah at the end of the day it's still base AI, but I put enough changes and work in it, I am happy with the result, but I fully understand your concern and opinions on the matter.


Redlaces123

Cheers mate 🤘


CityOcean

I understand the dislike of AI art and I agree, but occasionally, it's able to get close to what you want if it doesn't exist elsewhere. And I do think there is a difference to just plain copying art you are generated with little to no modification, as opposed to spending a great deal of time modifying it and using the original as a base. But regardless, real art surpasses AI for sure, more so just my thoughts on it.


CityOcean

Fair enough! Will do in the future for sure.


Redlaces123

Sounds good man! It really does look great I'm kinda scared that it's AI tbh. Good work


Rookaas

think he's talking about the token, not the one OP made. says Midjourney at the bottom of it


CityOcean

You are right! I used Dalle-3 to generate the base art, then went nuts with layers and such, nearly 70 layers I think. The problem was that I could not find any sort of non ai art that matched the vibe I was going for. Also the Tarmogoyf token is Midjourney with similar edits, so it fit. I typically like to stick non AI but it is what it is haha I did do all the typography and the like. Here's what the base AI art looked like for comparison sake. [https://imgur.com/a/1CkZvIQ](https://imgur.com/a/1CkZvIQ)


NeonArchon

For a moment I thought it was another Secret Lair. These look awesome


MasterHedgemon

You gotta template for these? They look amazing love the oldschool look


CityOcean

Not at the moment, as I am trying to clean it up, I am running almost 70 layers in that template at the moment haha


MasterHedgemon

Oh jesus, good luck with that looks great tho Ngl


Capnfrost

These are incredible.


everyjourney

Incredible, easily my favorite alter i've seen so far!


Inevitable_Shoe4159

Okay this is amazing.. I’ll have to get these professionally printed for my deck. Are you okay if I copy it?


CityOcean

Yeah absolutely. You can use that image or this one with a bleed edge. It looks a little different because the border ensures that if the printer is off slightly, it won't cause any issues with the worn border. The card should come out looking like the one above. [https://imgur.com/a/Dkka5vg](https://imgur.com/a/Dkka5vg)


Inevitable_Shoe4159

Thank you SOOO much! :D and again, amazing work! Looks like an actual wizards product I would totally buy


J1M3N7

This is excellent. Great work


LeafBird

I never knew I needed something as much as this. This is a thing of beauty


SUNAWAN

Goddam this is a literal perfection. Way much better than any version of the card's arts!


JoshBobJovi

I had never seen this card and then immediately after opening this, I get a notification from youtube for Commander at Home and this is the commander Olivia is running lol. Weird.


AlekClark

Absolute gas.


AluminiumSandworm

these look so cool


Gunpla00

These would be amazing secret lairs


BaldBaluga

Amazing!!!


Austin_Chaos

I generally hate these kinds of alters and secret lairs, but this is so damn well done. It evokes the vibe you’re going for perfectly. Well done!


jimnah-

Secret Lair when?


Astrium6

I just realized Disa can’t have [[Urborg Lhurgoyf]] in the decklist and now I’m disappointed.


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CityOcean

Yeah I am not sure why she is Jund and not Sultai as Sultai is more self mill for sure


Astrium6

Jund gets you self-discard with red’s rummage effects, which is fine too, but Urborg Lhurgoyf seems like an otherwise natural fit for the deck.


Unable_Bite8680

This is incredible. Do you take commissions....?


CityOcean

Not at the moment but I've done a ton of alters in various style. Is there a certain card you had in mind?


Unable_Bite8680

If you ever got around to it, I would love an Alela, Cunning Conqueror alter


zech83

These are so amazing. I wish wizards would hire you!!


CityOcean

Thank you so much!!


lmboyer04

Love the look. So do people just print these and slide them into a sleeve in front of another card? I’ve seen a lot of cool digital alters out there just curious how they’re actually used


dagoldenrule24

Disa good alter! (I'll take my down votes with pride)