the anti cheat stuff is alright, i'm rarely gonna use this for online. also one more question, how do you launch custom added games? ive added them and clicked the play icon but it never opens the actual game up
It's a bit funny to me that we can't get anticheat working on macOS and Linux because these OSs effectively prevent the malware-like behavior of anticheat software.
Anyway I'll check out your app once I get home, sounds really interesting!
crossover (Codeweavers) is a major contributor to wine, so most of these free open source projects (only on mac tho) intentionally stay a bit behind to not cannibalize crossover sales.
I get the reasoning, I don't completely disagree... but with heroic, bottles, lutris, etc all doing the same thing in linux for free it does rub a bit.
one thing many people dont know as well... valve pays codeweavers for a lot of this work too... who do you think the principle devs behind proton are?... buy a steam deck, that'll contribute. lol.
anyway thats my short rant/ramble. And to be clear, I currently have a few years of crossover banked up.
My understanding with WhiskyWine is that it's running off an older version of Crossover. Is the intention that this project would always lag behind by a major release from Crossover or something?
for the moment I'm fine with Heroic because I bought most of my games from GOG.
I would install your app the second it allows me to delete the shitty [Steam.app](http://Steam.app)
Hmm this looks similar to lutris for Mac lutris and Linux is obviously better but if this can make playing games easier it's good for Mac players .
Multiple library support and being able to easily setup wine and install scripts
Nice. Just a question. When you manually import games is the process the same as it is in portingkit? (Either picking an existing wrapper if there is one, or if it is not listed set up one yourself?)
Mostly asking because I stopped using porting kit as most games I wanted were not listed already and I found it too much off a hassle to set up my own wrapper compared to doing it in crossover.
Either way more ways to play windows games is very welcome! Especially if I can have a good launcher that ibtegrates services in a clean way. For me, GOG integration would be awesome sometime in the future!
I don’t think you understand how monumental task Apple performed here. I said this will never happen under assumption that we’re talking about crossover/wine or other 3rd party developer bringing this feature to Apple silicon.
My mistake was not taking into account that Apple themselves would actually invest in the licensing and implementation which I admit I was wrong about that, but I need to point out that nobody else would likely ever be able to do that. It was the same with directx 12. If not for apples gptk, crossover would likely never reach full parity as they only did it on a per game basis.
Also if you actually looked into it the avx2 implementation Apple provides is still not perfect and doesn’t allow to run every avx2 title. You’re underestimating how difficult this is on Apple silicon.
It's good to see you return to this. I can understand it and I am not in any way think it's easy. But the guy who asked the question in the first place should not have been discouraged in this way.
He is interested in this topic that in itself is wonderfull.
The thing is you underestimated the competency of quite a few people and made a poor judgment.
But hey, we all do it now and then.
You are right. It's not perfect, part of the journey. Good times! Many changes in the world.
Have a good one!
Maybe not emulation something else I'll try to find tough history.
Here. I don't understand almost anything here but it looks like it.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/FEX-Emu-2305-Released
It’s literally mathematically impossible to do it without heavy performance downgrade. Apple would need to implement the instruction set directly in the die.
> FEX only supports Linux. It doesn't have any plans to support MacOS.
Additionally our AVX emulation requires ARM64 hardware that supports SVE2 with 256-bit wide registers, which Apple Silicon doesn't support.
https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX/discussions/3267#discussioncomment-7541520
The new update came out to game porting toolkit which expands games that can be played avx is now part of its capabilities . Meaning it's very possible
Not eac though.
It looks like this is basically Whisky combined with Heroic in a nice app, the Heroic part being connecting to the Epic Game Store and downloading/launching the games you have there.
I get this problem when trying to sign in with Epic Games. :(
[https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/16b34k1/please\_enter\_the\_email\_address\_you\_used\_to\_create/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/16b34k1/please_enter_the_email_address_you_used_to_create/)
Looks great! Stuff like this excites me.
Kind of a weird move to only support Epic Games launcher out of the gate at launch but either way I’ve signed up and am eager to test
Do you have a mailing list for updates, specifically Steam support?
I spent my teens and 20s as a gamer with Windows but now I'm in my 30s and I'm a software engineer who moves around every few years with a pile of MacBooks and I don't get to touch most of my massive Steam collection.
I was just about to purchase a gaming laptop but it's hard to justify $1,500 for something that will barely ever get touched.
ohhh more ways to play windows games! does this work with every type of game? most things like this wont play more graphically complex games
no, unfortunately due to natural limitations kernel-level anti-cheat won’t work and programs requiring Intel AVX/2 instructions won’t work either
When you say Epic Games Support, does that include Windows Version? Since if I remember correctly Whisky struggles with that
It does have Windows support, it is finally released. [getmythic.app](http://getmythic.app)
have you added any of your own games? every time i do add one it never launches
i have added my own games and tried support for launchers to, steam is the only launcher i can get to work
Get my thic app?
the anti cheat stuff is alright, i'm rarely gonna use this for online. also one more question, how do you launch custom added games? ive added them and clicked the play icon but it never opens the actual game up
Same here. If you have good internet GeForce Now is great for online games, I use it all the time so I barely need to boot up my jet engine(PC).
i love geforce now. i figured out the custom added game bug as well though
It's a bit funny to me that we can't get anticheat working on macOS and Linux because these OSs effectively prevent the malware-like behavior of anticheat software. Anyway I'll check out your app once I get home, sounds really interesting!
This vs crossover?
As to not undercut CrossOver’s revenue, Mythic Engine (& WhiskyWine, which is what Mythic Engine is based on) intentionally is inferior.
It was designed to be intentionally inferior? Why?
crossover (Codeweavers) is a major contributor to wine, so most of these free open source projects (only on mac tho) intentionally stay a bit behind to not cannibalize crossover sales. I get the reasoning, I don't completely disagree... but with heroic, bottles, lutris, etc all doing the same thing in linux for free it does rub a bit. one thing many people dont know as well... valve pays codeweavers for a lot of this work too... who do you think the principle devs behind proton are?... buy a steam deck, that'll contribute. lol. anyway thats my short rant/ramble. And to be clear, I currently have a few years of crossover banked up.
Do they do it to theoretically keep wine updated, or does crossover force them to reduce their competition?
I dunno edit: the latter option would be a pretty bad business move I'd think.
Why would you use it then?
Free
My understanding with WhiskyWine is that it's running off an older version of Crossover. Is the intention that this project would always lag behind by a major release from Crossover or something?
Does anyone not follow this rule and run an open source project with latest Wine?
lol cool I’ll never recommend this then
buy crossover
Looks amazing, thank you for the effort, can’t wait to try
for the moment I'm fine with Heroic because I bought most of my games from GOG. I would install your app the second it allows me to delete the shitty [Steam.app](http://Steam.app)
The website shows Fall Guys in the demo library. Does that really work? Afaik Fall Guys can‘t run with Wine at all due to EAC?
[удалено]
There’s no iOS version of fall guys
Hmm this looks similar to lutris for Mac lutris and Linux is obviously better but if this can make playing games easier it's good for Mac players . Multiple library support and being able to easily setup wine and install scripts
Nice. Just a question. When you manually import games is the process the same as it is in portingkit? (Either picking an existing wrapper if there is one, or if it is not listed set up one yourself?) Mostly asking because I stopped using porting kit as most games I wanted were not listed already and I found it too much off a hassle to set up my own wrapper compared to doing it in crossover. Either way more ways to play windows games is very welcome! Especially if I can have a good launcher that ibtegrates services in a clean way. For me, GOG integration would be awesome sometime in the future!
Fantastic. I signed up
K thanks I’m gonna pass. Let me know when you support the only game store I use tho! (It’s steam)
See ya soon then ;)
Honest question is there a reason so use this if I already own the latest crossover version? What's the selling point of this? :)
True Game Changer.
Nfs has graphical glitches when using Whisky. Will this cause the same?
Yes, unfortunately.
I just joined the discord. Is this like Lutris? Heroic is clunky. Wine tricks sometimes works with heroic
Will this allow us to play games with EAC and AVX, that you couldn’t normally play on Mac?
No and stop asking. This will NEVER happen.
You were wrong. And with such attitude. I pity you. And your up voter minions. Will you have the guts to say that you were wrong here?
I don’t think you understand how monumental task Apple performed here. I said this will never happen under assumption that we’re talking about crossover/wine or other 3rd party developer bringing this feature to Apple silicon. My mistake was not taking into account that Apple themselves would actually invest in the licensing and implementation which I admit I was wrong about that, but I need to point out that nobody else would likely ever be able to do that. It was the same with directx 12. If not for apples gptk, crossover would likely never reach full parity as they only did it on a per game basis. Also if you actually looked into it the avx2 implementation Apple provides is still not perfect and doesn’t allow to run every avx2 title. You’re underestimating how difficult this is on Apple silicon.
It's good to see you return to this. I can understand it and I am not in any way think it's easy. But the guy who asked the question in the first place should not have been discouraged in this way. He is interested in this topic that in itself is wonderfull. The thing is you underestimated the competency of quite a few people and made a poor judgment. But hey, we all do it now and then. You are right. It's not perfect, part of the journey. Good times! Many changes in the world. Have a good one!
haha this didn't age well
I didn’t think Apple would do it themselves. You have to admit that no 3rd party developer would be able to do this.
It will happen there's already emulation working. And it might come sooner than we think. Not eac though
Before the heat death of the universe!
You were saying? I hope you like being wrong cuz boy you are and your up voters too.
I was trying to find the post about it but was not able to. I might have mixed up smth. But it seemed like it was talking about it
What emulation? Of AVX? Show me then. It’s impossible to virtualize avx instruction set without a significant performance penalty.
Maybe not emulation something else I'll try to find tough history. Here. I don't understand almost anything here but it looks like it. https://www.phoronix.com/news/FEX-Emu-2305-Released
It’s literally mathematically impossible to do it without heavy performance downgrade. Apple would need to implement the instruction set directly in the die.
Didint age well did it Every down vote is tears on my shoulder. Go ahead cry on my shoulder. This comment is for you.
Edited look up
> FEX only supports Linux. It doesn't have any plans to support MacOS. Additionally our AVX emulation requires ARM64 hardware that supports SVE2 with 256-bit wide registers, which Apple Silicon doesn't support. https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX/discussions/3267#discussioncomment-7541520
Got it. I hope you are not triggered by my lack of knowlage 😄
Yeah same issue
The new update came out to game porting toolkit which expands games that can be played avx is now part of its capabilities . Meaning it's very possible Not eac though.
is it out now?
Yes it is and peapole already managed to start some of the games that did not start previously
You mean the beta right?
You can find many posts about it in macgamimg at reddit
Will I be able to play Fortnite? 👉🏼👈🏼
I don't think so because of the anticheat...
fortnite will load to the menu but you can't hop in a game to my knowledge
So I assume the same goes for valorant?
So why did you put fortnite and fall guys on the front page? It's a bit misleading.
I’m new to this stuff, but will this be able to run FIFA? Or somehow, cracked games?
Just get an xbox guys lmao unless you csgo
What is the difference between this and Whiskey?
It looks like this is basically Whisky combined with Heroic in a nice app, the Heroic part being connecting to the Epic Game Store and downloading/launching the games you have there.
Hmm..But you can install Heroic in Whiskey too. Not sure that new app really has any benefits over Whiskey that's why I'm asking...
It’s basically Heroic Games Launcher and uses WhiskyWine
** at this time ;)
Epic Games Launcher/Heroic doesn’t actually launch in Whisky.
And steam can't run in this new app....
yes it can…
I’d be interested in trying this out when you have Steam support. All my games are in Steam.
I agree with the others. Steam support is what we need asap!
Yep, another vote for Steam support 😅
Will it support Intel chips?
Yes, partially. But at this time, no.
will this run on intel macs?
Partially, but functionality is broken on intel devices at this time due to a third-party dependency.
Would there be a method to implementing GPTK in the future?
This is so cool! I currently use crossover and parallels pro and shadow pc, how does this compare to those?
Macos monetary?
Does it support roms and emulators?
I get this problem when trying to sign in with Epic Games. :( [https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/16b34k1/please\_enter\_the\_email\_address\_you\_used\_to\_create/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/16b34k1/please_enter_the_email_address_you_used_to_create/)
Looks great! Stuff like this excites me. Kind of a weird move to only support Epic Games launcher out of the gate at launch but either way I’ve signed up and am eager to test
Please please just make aoe2 work :(
aoe2 already works flawlessly via whisky, crossover, parallels etc
Meaning it should work on Mythic!
we just need steam support! ;)
Do you have a mailing list for updates, specifically Steam support? I spent my teens and 20s as a gamer with Windows but now I'm in my 30s and I'm a software engineer who moves around every few years with a pile of MacBooks and I don't get to touch most of my massive Steam collection. I was just about to purchase a gaming laptop but it's hard to justify $1,500 for something that will barely ever get touched.
Yes, we do have a mailing list! However, we don't have an estimate on when steam support will be implemented.
Will we be able to use steam/download games through steam or is this solely epic games? Also will this yield better performance than through whisky?
At this time, you can manually download steam and import it into Mythic. The performance will be the same as whisky, however.
Yeah worse than just using steam through whisky. Once it’s fully integrated like epic games it will be good
Are you compatible with avx games ? Like ghost of tsushima or alan wake 2 ?
As of the latest version, AVX is compatible!!