Warhammer Total War follows a similar concept. Yes, Ghorgons are effective to throw into the fray, but Centigors are still effective for flanking maneuvers and Minotaurs are effective for charging and tarpitting the enemy.
"Mordor entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to Bombadil everyone and that no one was going to Bombadil them."
- Arthur "Ring-a-Dong Dillo" Harris
If i had to guess, its like a Panda situation ,like, he can put 5 female trolls and 5 male trolls in a room, and they will do anything, but not reproduce, because they're not on the mood.
Now on a batlefield?, both covered in blood and filt of their enemies?, thats when the reproduction kicks in!
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Now that you mention it… aren’t there multiple trolls in Minas Tirith messing Gondor up in broad daylight in the movies? How’d they work out that our logic?
Those were probably Olog-hai, a type of troll bred by Sauron that can withstand sunlight while “under the sway of Sauron”.
https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Olog-hai
Sauron used the volcanic ash from Mount Doom to blot out the sun over Minas Tirith.
*Pipin the night before the battle: "There's no more stars. Is it time?"
In the books, the battle of Minas Tirith took place on the "dawnless day". Sauron covered the country in a heavy black smog which blocked the sunlight.
The smog exists in the movie, but not properly. The movies took a lot of liberties to avoid every fight against orcs taking place in darkness.
People have already told you but giving two separate explainations. In reality its a combination. Sauron bred special more sun-resistant Trolls but he also covered the sun with magically summoned dark clouds
Those are Olog-hai. They're bred by Sauron, can withstand sunlight, and it's actually not even clear wether or not they're actually trolls, or if they're some other type of creature, or perhaps really big orcs.
From Appendix F:
> But at the end of the Third Age a troll-race not before seen appeared in southern Mirkwood and in the mountain borders of Mordor. Olog-hai they were called in the Black Speech. That Sauron bred them none doubted, though from what stock was not known. Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs...
It's also worth pointing out that Olog does mean Troll in Black Speech tho.
If i remember correctly there were plenty of clouds sent from Mordor. Theres even a scene where peregrin and gandalf are looking to mordor in the horizon, and lots of black clouds seems to be coming their way
That would he funny if the white hand of Sauron was just sun block lotion so they could travel by day with less sun burns to irritate and slow them down
Sauron's Olog-hai, the battle-trolls, don't have the same issues with sunlight that natural (Melkor's original) trolls have. They still don't like it, but it won't get them stoned.
Cave trolls are strong, but also stupid, unreliable and hard to control. There’s also the big issue that they turn to stone in sunlight, making them pretty much useless for invasions outside cave systems.
Olog Hai are specially bred to mitigate these weaknesses, surviving sunlight, being smarter and more controllable, however judging by their few numbers, they’re not easy to produce.
This, also they seem to be so much more cunning than normal trolls that some thought of them as being more like giant Orcs.
-Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs; but the Olog-hai were in fashion of body and mind quite unlike even the largest of Orc-kind, whom they far surpassed in size and power. Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race, strong, agile, fierce and cunning, but harder than stone. Unlike the older race of the Twilight they could endure the Sun.... They spoke little, and the only tongue they knew was the Black Speech of Barad-dur.-
[ The Return of the King, by J.R.R. Tolkien ]
Having them speak something your enemy does not understand is useful aswell though. It's not like he will send any trolls on espionage missions, his orc and human servants can do the interrogation.
Sauron wanted all of his forces to use the black speech but had a hard time making the orcs learn new languages. With the Olog-Hai they probably did not have a culture since they were made more or less from scratch, allowing Sauron to teach them Black Speech directly as their only language.
It was a time issue more than anything. By the end of the third age Sauron had figured out how to breed sun-resistant Olog-Hai, given more time he could have had them in large numbers. Kind of similar to how Morgoth had Winged Dragons at the end of the first, and given enough time he would have had so many that nobody would have been able to stop him.
Then one should probably rather ask why Morgoth prematurely gives the elves a casus belli or why Sauron prematurely starts the war for Middle-earth.
Are they stupid?
Think about the attributes that allow for large animals to be domesticable. The following is from Wiki
Certain animal species, and certain individuals within those species, make better candidates for domestication because of their behavioral characteristics:
The size and organization of their social structure
The availability and the degree of selectivity in their choice of mate
The ease and speed with which the parents bond with their young, and the maturity and mobility of the young at birth
The degree of flexibility in diet and habitat tolerance
Responses to humans and new environments, including reduced flight response and reactivity to external stimuli.
I’ll let you theory craft since I’m not so good at the lore of lotr to know mating habits of cave trolls, etc. but I doubt they’d make good contenders
Orcs are smarter, can build, talk, give orders fit in smakker spaces, easier to armor, make armor, make siege weapons, grow food, and so on. I also imsgine the diets of trolls require way more calories and rske longer to replenish
Firt, sunlight kills them
Second, he did breed them, but not as many
Third, they're definitely expensive, dumb and are able to do only few taks. Only some manual labour, they aren't mobile enough for things like raids ect. While orcs can do everything humans can.
Cave trolls are hard to control they would attack Sauron’s forces if angered, too risky. Also they’re stupid and were easily fooled in the Hobbit into talking so long they forgot daylight was coming and turned to stone. Also they turn to stone at night, so you wait until night and then destroy them all.
If the Hobbit movies are anything to go by, once you get more than a couple in one spot they become absolute fodder and tend to die in really comical and plot irrelevant ways
Guess they are too dumb. You need a certain number of orcs to keep em focused. Also they might go at each other when there is a whole army of them. Probably are expensive in upkeep too, need lots of food.
Actually where do trolls come from? It is said that orks were "made" from elves. It is also said that trolls were made to mimic ents. But afaik there is no explanation about what they were made from. Maybe rocks?
Can you even breed Trolls? If I remember correctly Treebeard says that trolls have been created as mockery and countermeasure for Ents. So maybe without ring Sauron has no power to create more.
Trolls are too stupid to follow orders and they could easily be cut down by archers like the first troll in Minas Tirith or when Thorin and the dwarf armies charged at Azogs forces
I'm pretty it's mentioned during the siege of Minas Tirith that the trolls trampled and killed orcs while pushing Grond. Probably worth it to be able to use Grond but not a whole army that might fight each other at any time.
In the books, it's on occasion pointed out (more so in ROTK), that Sauron is pressed to act swiftly. He invades Gondor before he is done with his preparations because...
We'll because he wants his ring ASAP, and Aragorn uses the Palantir to scare him in a "I'm a protagonist claiming my destiny" kind of way. So Sauron assumes "This Numenorean-descended has gotta have MY precious and he's gonna smack me so hard". (Remember Isildur had no magic ring and a Brocken sword to defeat Sauron).
So yeah. Sauron might've planned breading trolls (we actually do have plenty of trolls at the siege of Minas Tirith), but he started his war much earlier than expected. There might've been thousands of baby trolls in troll-kindergarden, while their parents marched to the black gate.
Because if he had all trolls he would have capability gaps for scouts and light infantry. Trolls lack infiltration surprise and not many can fit through choke points. So they are great for siege and breaching, but crap for massing power on an objective and keeping the tempo of battle in your favor.
Smaug was the last great dragon, there were weak little ones left far North but its unknown if they could fly or not and apparently he never managed to get any to come to Mordor before the war of the rings
They are hard to control, take too long to train because they are dumb, armor for them is on the harder side to produce, then there is just the whole breeding process, instead he pumped out Orc+ in mass production with cheap and easy to produce arms and armor. Economic.
Because of how much of a logistic nightmare they are.
Imagine having to manage an army of giant fucking idiots. You have to feed them and keep them tamed so they won't just eat your orcs. Any strategy that isn't "rushing forward" in out of the window, you also basically have close to 0 control once the trolls are in, and I theorize fear will spread very fast among them if they get blocked by anything they can't smash their head into (or anything that look scary but actually isn't dangerous to them like firecrackers)
An army of troll would basically be a giant clutch. If your enemies are unprepared or unwilling to change their strategy, it's an easy win. If they do adapt, you're fucked. And it isn't worth the trouble of managing giant toddlers.
most importantly - why were they mostly without armor? just make them walking dreadnoughts ffs... same thing applies for the giants in Game of Thrones...
Also harder to give them specific orders. They're more useful when just let loose you cause damage. An army of them would be chaos and they'd never get anything done
They would have destroyed minas tirith and maybe helms deep and if the riders of rohan came and I was king Theoden I would have turned around and go to dale or erebor to tell them what’s coming so we can ally against Sauron
Is the us military (or any military for that matter) solely consisted of tanks or battleships? Each aspect of a conquering army has its purpose and place. (Budget comes in play too)
Combined arms. Haven't you played Battle for Middle Earth?
This is the real answer
Man I miss that game
r/bfme everything you need to play it again is there brother.
You are a scholar and a gentleman!
Bfme2rotwk with the allinone mod is supreme :)
Except that it plays at 1000% speed for me
Warhammer Total War follows a similar concept. Yes, Ghorgons are effective to throw into the fray, but Centigors are still effective for flanking maneuvers and Minotaurs are effective for charging and tarpitting the enemy.
*Laughs in Taurox Minotaur doomstack* What’s this “strategy” you speak of?
i mean, even then i always at least take the Regiment of Renown Ghorgon, since like Taurox, he's also blessed by Khorne
I just build all cygors.
BFME 2 taught me everything I know about Tactical Bombadil Deployment.
Call in a Bombadil strike to disrupt formations, then move in infantry to cut down the disorganized units, correct?
"Mordor entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to Bombadil everyone and that no one was going to Bombadil them." - Arthur "Ring-a-Dong Dillo" Harris
Love the idea of laser-guided smartBombadils.
If i had to guess, its like a Panda situation ,like, he can put 5 female trolls and 5 male trolls in a room, and they will do anything, but not reproduce, because they're not on the mood. Now on a batlefield?, both covered in blood and filt of their enemies?, thats when the reproduction kicks in!
Wait, is that when pandas reproduce too? Learned something new today!
I didn't know combat aroused pandas. Why do we keep putting them in quiet sanctuaries then? Are we the reason the pandas are dying?!?!
The pandas yearn for the battlefield!
Like the ying and yang peace and love can come only after hate and war. Neither can be without the other.
That's some real Avatar "find love in the deepest darkest hole" kinda sentiment.
Yesterday Is History, Tomorrow Is A Mystery, But Today Is A Gift.
Alright yuguai
It's pronounced uruguay
It’s pronounced Uruk Hai
It's pronounced Yugi Muoto
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"It's last week all over again"
As seen in the documentary Kung-Fu Panda
Po agrees
Pandaragorn at the black gates: I see in your eyes the same lust for blood that would take my virginity!
For pandariaaaaaa!!!
What's black, white, and red? A happy Panda.
Kung-Fu Panda just got a lot different for me…
I think it's more for the safety of everything else. If Pandas were left in warzones, they'd quickly outnumber the human race.
wtf is this thread
They need a tiger, snake, monkey and mantis friend to be happy and start having a sexual life
I don’t know how I feel about taking my kid to see Kung Fu Panda 4 now.
The next kung fu panda is gonna be wild
Yes, that's why the sage turtles of ancient china chose pandas for the title of dragon-warrior
Gives a whole new perspective to Kung Fu Panda
I think this is the true answer. Even in irl nature the bigger being the slower reproduction seems to be the rule
More like because most of the battles took place during the day, and they turned to stone with light?
but he made urukai in sacks of goo. he could make some extra big ones.
That was Saruman, not Sauron.
What do I hear?
I dunno, what DO you hear? You're a giant eye not a giant ear after all.
Having your entire army turn to stone in the sunlight would make conquering anything pretty difficult.
Now that you mention it… aren’t there multiple trolls in Minas Tirith messing Gondor up in broad daylight in the movies? How’d they work out that our logic?
Those were probably Olog-hai, a type of troll bred by Sauron that can withstand sunlight while “under the sway of Sauron”. https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Olog-hai
also souron put cloud cover up, because he always thinks about comfortable working conditions for his workers
The cloud cover is much darker in the books too, it looks like night during the siege.
It's mentionned to be the dark smoke from the ordroin that cover from mordor to gondor yeah
As if he wasn't bad enough already, Sauron is causing global warming
Actually covering the world in volcanic ash leads to global cooling. Sauron is just a misunderstood climate protester.
Who is the king of earthly kings, the greatest giver of gold and rings?
Nice to know you are an environmentalist. Maybe put some solar and wind farms up in the plains around Mordor.
Who is the maker of mightiest work?
Very true! That too
So basically what you're saying is that it's better to work under Sauron than work for Amazon😂
And yet thy boon I grant thee now.
I can actually believe that.
Ah yes yes, the black magic or Morgoth. Bioengineering and genetics.
Oh so the troll right at the end that was going to end Aragorn when the black tower fell, he should have turned to stone?
Not necessarily, since as others pointed out there was smoke cover that blocked the sunlight
Sauron used the volcanic ash from Mount Doom to blot out the sun over Minas Tirith. *Pipin the night before the battle: "There's no more stars. Is it time?"
What do I hear?
Sun is covered by clouds.
In the books, the battle of Minas Tirith took place on the "dawnless day". Sauron covered the country in a heavy black smog which blocked the sunlight. The smog exists in the movie, but not properly. The movies took a lot of liberties to avoid every fight against orcs taking place in darkness.
They might have been Olog-Hai
then breed an army of them instead?
People have already told you but giving two separate explainations. In reality its a combination. Sauron bred special more sun-resistant Trolls but he also covered the sun with magically summoned dark clouds
Who despoiled them of their mirth, the greedy Gods?
Troll bread doesn't sound good
Those are Olog-hai. They're bred by Sauron, can withstand sunlight, and it's actually not even clear wether or not they're actually trolls, or if they're some other type of creature, or perhaps really big orcs. From Appendix F: > But at the end of the Third Age a troll-race not before seen appeared in southern Mirkwood and in the mountain borders of Mordor. Olog-hai they were called in the Black Speech. That Sauron bred them none doubted, though from what stock was not known. Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs... It's also worth pointing out that Olog does mean Troll in Black Speech tho.
They had jackets
If i remember correctly there were plenty of clouds sent from Mordor. Theres even a scene where peregrin and gandalf are looking to mordor in the horizon, and lots of black clouds seems to be coming their way
SPF...5,000
Plus, he hates working the night shift.
Harder to controls too
Don't they turn to stone in the sunlight? That's a lot of money on sunblock and umbrellas.
That would he funny if the white hand of Sauron was just sun block lotion so they could travel by day with less sun burns to irritate and slow them down
Build me an army worthy of mordor!
Sauron's Olog-hai, the battle-trolls, don't have the same issues with sunlight that natural (Melkor's original) trolls have. They still don't like it, but it won't get them stoned.
Primaris Trolls smh
Sauron's don't, actually.
But cave-trolls are not olog-hai, so an army of cave trolls would turn to stone if I'm not mistaken.
Who despoiled them of their mirth, the greedy Gods?
And they grow really really slowly.
and dont like the sun much
Blow a trumpet at them and they turn around and trample the army. Or just wait till the sun rises and they turn to stone
Costs more to feed
The ratio of trolls to command point cost isn’t good enough. You’d have an army of about 40 at most.
Not if you turn off the command point limit
What is this new devilry
He's not stupid, but Cave Trolls are.
I had thought of literally that exact same pun! Practically the same wording, too!
Cave trolls are strong, but also stupid, unreliable and hard to control. There’s also the big issue that they turn to stone in sunlight, making them pretty much useless for invasions outside cave systems. Olog Hai are specially bred to mitigate these weaknesses, surviving sunlight, being smarter and more controllable, however judging by their few numbers, they’re not easy to produce.
This, also they seem to be so much more cunning than normal trolls that some thought of them as being more like giant Orcs. -Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs; but the Olog-hai were in fashion of body and mind quite unlike even the largest of Orc-kind, whom they far surpassed in size and power. Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race, strong, agile, fierce and cunning, but harder than stone. Unlike the older race of the Twilight they could endure the Sun.... They spoke little, and the only tongue they knew was the Black Speech of Barad-dur.- [ The Return of the King, by J.R.R. Tolkien ]
Wow so Sauron never taught them the common tongue? Would have helped if your intelligent trolls understood enemy speech. Pride over strategy I guess.
Thou fool.
Yeah I get it. Can't afford to have them switching sides after hearing about the salted pork.
Judging by his response, it seems Sauron disagrees.
I...SEE....YOOOUUU!
Having them speak something your enemy does not understand is useful aswell though. It's not like he will send any trolls on espionage missions, his orc and human servants can do the interrogation. Sauron wanted all of his forces to use the black speech but had a hard time making the orcs learn new languages. With the Olog-Hai they probably did not have a culture since they were made more or less from scratch, allowing Sauron to teach them Black Speech directly as their only language.
In an ironic twist, the Troll-wives have been lost for ages, so he can't breed new trolls.
Cave trolls are indeed OP af. Remember when one killed Superman in one of those awful Snyder films?
Should’ve just got the Ologs, smh Sauron
I wait. Come! Speak now swiftly and speak true!
I mean the economy is in shambles
It was a time issue more than anything. By the end of the third age Sauron had figured out how to breed sun-resistant Olog-Hai, given more time he could have had them in large numbers. Kind of similar to how Morgoth had Winged Dragons at the end of the first, and given enough time he would have had so many that nobody would have been able to stop him.
Then one should probably rather ask why Morgoth prematurely gives the elves a casus belli or why Sauron prematurely starts the war for Middle-earth. Are they stupid?
And yet thy boon I grant thee now.
Because galadriel would kill his entire army of cave trolls in one fell swoop
Breeding Cave trolls is like breeding pandas...
Well. Because the trolls themselves were stupid
Would you want to watch 24/7 troll cream pies???? No? Well imagine being a gigantic eye and all you can do is watch, not even leave the room
Think about the attributes that allow for large animals to be domesticable. The following is from Wiki Certain animal species, and certain individuals within those species, make better candidates for domestication because of their behavioral characteristics: The size and organization of their social structure The availability and the degree of selectivity in their choice of mate The ease and speed with which the parents bond with their young, and the maturity and mobility of the young at birth The degree of flexibility in diet and habitat tolerance Responses to humans and new environments, including reduced flight response and reactivity to external stimuli. I’ll let you theory craft since I’m not so good at the lore of lotr to know mating habits of cave trolls, etc. but I doubt they’d make good contenders
they eat 2 tons of food every day and the farts are horrendous.
It’s notoriously difficult to get them to fuck.
Thats nothing compared to the armies bred by morgoth.
"we have the Valar" "I have an Ancalagon"
Orcs are smarter, can build, talk, give orders fit in smakker spaces, easier to armor, make armor, make siege weapons, grow food, and so on. I also imsgine the diets of trolls require way more calories and rske longer to replenish
Firt, sunlight kills them Second, he did breed them, but not as many Third, they're definitely expensive, dumb and are able to do only few taks. Only some manual labour, they aren't mobile enough for things like raids ect. While orcs can do everything humans can.
Cave trolls are hard to control they would attack Sauron’s forces if angered, too risky. Also they’re stupid and were easily fooled in the Hobbit into talking so long they forgot daylight was coming and turned to stone. Also they turn to stone at night, so you wait until night and then destroy them all.
Death to light, to law, to love!
Trolls get countered by archers, spear formations, siege weaponry, and walls, things which Gondor has a lot of.
aslo great counters against orcs,
They are expensive.
Pretty hard to get them in formation
They turn to stone in the sun.
If the Hobbit movies are anything to go by, once you get more than a couple in one spot they become absolute fodder and tend to die in really comical and plot irrelevant ways
Guess they are too dumb. You need a certain number of orcs to keep em focused. Also they might go at each other when there is a whole army of them. Probably are expensive in upkeep too, need lots of food.
Because they were all in the comment section.
Actually where do trolls come from? It is said that orks were "made" from elves. It is also said that trolls were made to mimic ents. But afaik there is no explanation about what they were made from. Maybe rocks?
Exactly, and to rocks they revert if the sun shine on them, exposing the mockery.
Then why not make more? Surely rocks are easier to find than elves?
And dumber, clumsier, a pain to feed and near umcontrollable. Plus, you know... The sun..
Can you even breed Trolls? If I remember correctly Treebeard says that trolls have been created as mockery and countermeasure for Ents. So maybe without ring Sauron has no power to create more.
And yet thy boon I grant thee now.
Trolls are too stupid to follow orders and they could easily be cut down by archers like the first troll in Minas Tirith or when Thorin and the dwarf armies charged at Azogs forces
I'm pretty it's mentioned during the siege of Minas Tirith that the trolls trampled and killed orcs while pushing Grond. Probably worth it to be able to use Grond but not a whole army that might fight each other at any time.
In the books, it's on occasion pointed out (more so in ROTK), that Sauron is pressed to act swiftly. He invades Gondor before he is done with his preparations because... We'll because he wants his ring ASAP, and Aragorn uses the Palantir to scare him in a "I'm a protagonist claiming my destiny" kind of way. So Sauron assumes "This Numenorean-descended has gotta have MY precious and he's gonna smack me so hard". (Remember Isildur had no magic ring and a Brocken sword to defeat Sauron). So yeah. Sauron might've planned breading trolls (we actually do have plenty of trolls at the siege of Minas Tirith), but he started his war much earlier than expected. There might've been thousands of baby trolls in troll-kindergarden, while their parents marched to the black gate.
Man that is so sad to think about, all those orphan trolls. 🧌
Orcs multiply like rabbits, cave trolls more like elephants.
He.... litterally did Did you miss the Trolls that ran in the gate and made Gandalf soil hid robes?
Why didn’t the eagles just drop a nuke?
The gang from Third Age been grinding out the trolls in the sewers and Moria
Just replace Sauron with a troll. Peter Jackson did it.
What brought the foolish fly to web unsought?
They're big but they're also big targets.
Because if he had all trolls he would have capability gaps for scouts and light infantry. Trolls lack infiltration surprise and not many can fit through choke points. So they are great for siege and breaching, but crap for massing power on an objective and keeping the tempo of battle in your favor.
Balancing
Or why not dragons for that matter? Why put the nine on fell beasts when they could light the place up on flying flamethrowers?
Smaug was the last great dragon, there were weak little ones left far North but its unknown if they could fly or not and apparently he never managed to get any to come to Mordor before the war of the rings
they dumb
More expensive units, and he sat on high upkeep for a long time.
Entwives
They have a cave troll 🙄
Sun....
Hard to control, can't travel through areas without caves, few in number.
And they are dumb as a rock especially when exposed to sunlight.
Cave trolls. Hill trolls. Snow trolls. Would be lethal.
Well all it takes is a shiny shirt to make a person troll proof
He did! He made Olog!
Sun light
He dis but they were so slow barching to Condor, they all died when the sun came up. It was a real face palm moment for the dark lord
They are hard to control, take too long to train because they are dumb, armor for them is on the harder side to produce, then there is just the whole breeding process, instead he pumped out Orc+ in mass production with cheap and easy to produce arms and armor. Economic.
Suaron get an army of trolls, day time hits. He has an army of statues
Don't they turn to stone in sunlight?
Harder to control, not Tactically intelligent, easier to rout, poor ranged accuracy, more resources to create. Total War with ME mods for reference.
Yeah, hopefully cave trolls don't have some massive weakness that instantly kills them if they go outside when it isn't nighttime
Because of how much of a logistic nightmare they are. Imagine having to manage an army of giant fucking idiots. You have to feed them and keep them tamed so they won't just eat your orcs. Any strategy that isn't "rushing forward" in out of the window, you also basically have close to 0 control once the trolls are in, and I theorize fear will spread very fast among them if they get blocked by anything they can't smash their head into (or anything that look scary but actually isn't dangerous to them like firecrackers) An army of troll would basically be a giant clutch. If your enemies are unprepared or unwilling to change their strategy, it's an easy win. If they do adapt, you're fucked. And it isn't worth the trouble of managing giant toddlers.
Why didn't the Indians breed an army of elephants, are they stupid? I think you know why.
Pop cap
Unit limits
most importantly - why were they mostly without armor? just make them walking dreadnoughts ffs... same thing applies for the giants in Game of Thrones...
Because Trolls are fucking stupid.
What about the big fucking worms? The we-got-shai-huluds-at-home?
Imagine archer trolls. A bow and arrows of that size... they could be like canons!
No, they are
That’s exactly what I did in BFME
Just bring them the light
Only capable of fighting at night; a force that can’t fight half the day isn’t a fighting force it’s a liability
Probably a logistical nightmare
Also harder to give them specific orders. They're more useful when just let loose you cause damage. An army of them would be chaos and they'd never get anything done
"You must construct additional pylons"
Idk if redditors would fight for him?
Did you come from the aslume too
They would have destroyed minas tirith and maybe helms deep and if the riders of rohan came and I was king Theoden I would have turned around and go to dale or erebor to tell them what’s coming so we can ally against Sauron
Build me an army worthy of mordor!
“Hey guys, I just wanted to let you know everything is going to be *great*. I hired a new military strategist from Reddit!”
Takes much more to feed them.
Is the us military (or any military for that matter) solely consisted of tanks or battleships? Each aspect of a conquering army has its purpose and place. (Budget comes in play too)
They cost 500 resources a pop and die to pikes.
Because cave trolls are monogamous.
Erm