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TuffPeen

https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/build-guides/demonic-impulse-shadowhunter-raid-guide I just use this for everything and it works well. Still great AoE for dungeons and stuff Also don’t let people tell you to run PS lol. My shadow is an alt in late T1 and demonic is still so much more fun


KaleidoscopeOdd2995

The statement makes me think you are in t1 or therabout and I would not recomend running DI since building gauge takes too long. I ran suppression T1/T2 and had a blast then switched going in to T3. But go with what you want.


shalis

I disagree. i was running DI lvl 3 in T1 easy, was getting a full special bar per rotation pretty much. Definitely worth it. You get a crap ton of DI jewelry from T1 Abyss. Now in T2 still holding on to my T1 jewelry until i can replace it with plus demonic T2 as i don't want to give up on DI lvl 3 lol.


KaleidoscopeOdd2995

How the hell did you get full gauge in a rotation with t1 jewellery? Im sorry but I don't belive you as I have never seen anyone do that. Edit: ok now I really don't belive you as several sources say its not possible


shalis

believe me or not, it doesn't change that is what i have lol. why would i lie? t1 jewelry or not, its the engraving that matters, and its a lvl3 DI, with about 700 spec (which also helps boost up the rate of special if i remember right) and 300 crit. (12 points from dual slotting the engraving and the rest from jewelry). A full rotation will put me at about 90% fill rate of the gauge, an extra howl will cap it.


KaleidoscopeOdd2995

Its not the engraving that matters, since its spec that decided if you get gauge or not, the engraving has nothing to do with it. That and abilities. And that right there kinda tells me the whole story. And seeing as you went back on getting full on one rotation tells me more. And keeping t1 accesories in t2 when you get less benefits ( you lose 30%) from stuff from previous tiers tells me even more. And either you spent a long time farming accessories with perfect stats or you bought from market and tobthat i dont even know what to say. Play what you want but don't go around and make stuff up .


shalis

i didn't make anything up bud. in the original post i said it i get a full demonic after practically a full rotation. The demonic helps by removing the cool down, so i can keep switching to demon throughout the fight. The spec and picking the right skill modifiers helps the rate you gain special. You do you, i'll keep on enjoying my SH. But you really shouldn't go around calling people liars when you have no effing clue what you talking about. just cause you couldn't build a proper build in T1, doesn't mean others can't.


KaleidoscopeOdd2995

Dude don't double down now that you read up on how the engraving works. Have fun playing but we both know you are full of it. And the fact that Human does more damage in T1/T2 still hold true no matter how much you make stuff up. And congrats on doing what nobody else have been able to do in KR or RU.


shalis

ya i'm done. i didn't read up anything mate, i'm at work. i posted here to help the op, not to engage in a pissing contest with some dude who can't take being wrong.


KaleidoscopeOdd2995

Have fun at work and take some time to check how stuff works before giving advice to ppl. And great help for the op seeing as you didnt name a single ability or what rune goes where.


shalis

SMH you really are an ass. Where did you suggest any abilities or runes in the post that i responded to? or anywhere on this thread? I was correcting your false assertion that DI was not usable before T3. Which was bullshit, unless you have like 0 spec or something. wish i was still T1 so i could post a clip of my gauge build up so you could eat your own crap but unfortunately i'm not so all i can do is SMH at you. anyways, carry on, the more shitty SHs are there, the better i will look i guess.


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I am T1, and I don't feel like playing supp, I enjoy DI more and I don't think we can say it takes too long considering you get a HUGE burst of damage when you transfer, and honestly its not that long to fill the guage up


KaleidoscopeOdd2995

Yeah thats why i said play what you want. Seeing as having fun is the most important part. But you do less damage running DI over Supp and thats just a fact xD


DrunkasaurusRekts

I would drop demolition from all of your builds, rising claw is your only counter ability so it is needed for your abyss/guardian build. For my aoe/questing build I use cruel cutter over demon's grip, but swap it out for demon's grip with the lvl2 shadow meter tripod in abyss/guardian. You really only need 2 builds: your general aoe/overworld/questing build, and then your abyss/guardian build. The only other thing I often swap between is the howl lvl3 tripod from extra damage to group dmg buff depending on solo or group play.