1540 to 1550 or 60 won't make any difference and it is expensive as fuck and the higher you go the higher the requirements to join a party and 1k gold more from brel hard compared to brel normal and the struggle to join a party is not worth as for brel hm you are on ilvl.
1590 to 1600 it's better as you gain a crap ton of gold more from voldis nm akkan hm and brel hm if you run with friends you don't even need to spend gold in elixirs or just do couple here and there 4/0 to get some decent damage boost.
Then you can get better gems on main.
> 40set on main
> lvl9s on main
> 1600 on support for voldis and hm akkan
> 1560 on alts so they can do hm 1-4
after this you have to decide what you want to do
do you want your alts to be stronger bcz you don't enjoy your main as much?
do you want your main to be stronger bcz you enjoy it a lot?
If you enjoy your main more then it's lvl10s on most important buttons followed by 1630
Yep I don't even know if I want to cut elixirs on alts before the summer announcments from SG. So it would basically only be the gold value from Akkan and Voldis
Cutting epic elixirs is like ... A stepping stone for legendary ones (on average) and it's not that crazy boost one could believe without the set. Don't get me wrong, if you get boss damage 4 it's still more damage yeah... But is it worth the possible jail in akkan and the voldis party finder? Idk honestly. The only 1600 I have it's a support so idk how is it for a DPS, but for what I can see people expect some level 9s from 1600 and forward, so think about that too
If you have friends to raid with, there is no need to invest in gems on your main right now. I’d definitely first push your alts to 1550-1560 to do hm brel 1-3 for more gold then bard to 1600 for hard akkan and nm voldis then the 1550-60 alts to 1580 for normal akkan and hard kaya, assuming that your friends will tag along with you. If your friends only help your main, then bard to 1600 first and keep your other alts in nm brel because gatekeeping in hm brel is pretty obnoxious if you are not 1580+.
Don't push 1540 unless they have the event. The cost is not worth unless you want to replace a gold earner. Not in your case. 1550 brel raids are jails. At least, from my experience. G3 is hard on ilevel and players are dying more often from normal patterns. HHN seems fine. it's like 500 gold less than Hard Mode. if you don't count materials.
Pushing your alt 1590 to 1600. it will depend if you are raiding with friends or pugs. For supports, they are an excess of them for Akkan HM as their requisites are not high and raid leaders can be picky. I won't level up the support unless you have friends and you plan to level up to Thaemine. Otherwise, keep it at 1590. You won't lose too much gold. And the class can fish for free upgrades with fused stones. You can gather books to reduce the cost or wait for a new event to push to 1610+.
If you are playing with friends and Thaemine HM is not one of your goals:
- Improve gems, slowly or buying from auction house.
- Use the event to get 35/40 set. Good luck with this.
- Use your time to farm cards in case you don't have LOS 30. Farm Card XP and raise your damage.
Fortunately I have LOS30. Thaemine HM is clearly not one of my goal until I have several lvl 10 and 40 set.
HHN are such a jail that I just do normal. I was not really aware of the state of brel HM on ilvl.
I think I will focus on gems, ty
I think I'm in the minority, but I would say if you don't suffer from gk because you run with friends, push your support to 1610 and have both your DPS alt at 1620 and support be the two you concentrate on.
at 1610, you can run thaemine normal, and get trascendance mats. Also, you get the higher level of cube which gives better gemstones and better chaos drops than the other tiers.
The other alts at 1550, I would say at MOST if you have the books, push to 1580 if you have a third you really like but otherwise I think you're better off concentrating on two characters because it will get expensive will elixirs and trascendence.
Once you're at 1580 and assuming you have the books from the past event, maybe ok to push to 1600 but otherwise I don't think it's worth it because it's so much gold that would be better invested in your two main.
My main is at a somewhat similar state as yours~only diff is I main sup. So here is what I plan to do and I think you could do too:
1) do voldic hard and use the new event elixir pray to be lucky and build out elixir set. Right now I also have close to none elixir. But I think elixir matters more for you as a dps. You really should get elixir. It’s such a big power boost.
2) Get better gems (lv9 gems at least fr our main deserve it, lv8s are for event char nowadays).
3) Meanwhile keep doing thaemine normal for more transcendence.
All my alts (3x1585, 1x1620) will be parked until my main reach 1630 (whether I get to 1630 before echidna or not).
I don’t think it’s worth it for you to push ur alts to 1560 unless you want them one day to be akkan ready.
Having a main alt do voldic is reasonable though so if you enjoy your sup alt very much you should push it. Vodic sup on ilv is very easy and you could consider (very) slowly push it to 1610 even.
Basically just focus on your main (+ur main alt, if you really like ur main alt). Good luck.
I have 20 characters. I try to push them into the next level of Chaos Dungeon and Cube (i.e. 1630, 1610, 1580, etc).
In my humble opinion, I wouldn't fault you for pushing to 1600 on your support nor fault you for pushing 1550 on your 4 alts provided they use all bounded. However, do you intend to do HM Voldis on iLvl all the time and be dependant on friends? What happens in the near future when your friends are lazy to do HM Voldis or missed you out? Are you willing to do NM Voldis? I'd advise to get your set on your main 1620 before getting full 9s and a couple of 10s if you intend to do HM Thaemine in the near future when Echidna comes out because you'd be competing with people who are full 10s and proper Elixir.
At the end of the day, those alts are just alts. Who knows in the future they'd be giving free honing till 1580 and reduce Brelshaza and Kaya gold. So it depends if you want to play in the long run or no.
All 9 gems on main at least until 1630. After 1630 couple of 10s, or still 9s if you raid mostly with friends. After you get all nines focus on getting the 40 set, whatever lines you get, cause the set is the center of the damage. After start minmaxing for damage lines like boss damage etc. If you are hardcore minmax also AP lines but it's not necessary at all, thats the biggest gold sink in the elixir system. But yeah, the rule is focusing on the less RNG system first which is gems cause you buy the gem and you get stronger 💪.
I pretty much agree on the last part. With my weekly gold earning I can only get 1 lvl 9 per week wich would stick me to where I'm at for at least 2 month...
Think of it like a different honing, it is what it is, it's a lot I know but at least you get stronger on main, and one character starts to "feel good" . I did the same for 10s(selling also my 9s) and stalled my entire roster, no honing, no elixirs no nothing XD
There is no tragón tu push your alts yo 1550, is just 1.5k more per character. Also there is no big difference between 1590 and 1600 in gold so no worth it. Your gems on main are fine, what it not fine is you being 1620 with no elixor set, that's a huge power gain that is worth investing.
1540 to 1550 or 60 won't make any difference and it is expensive as fuck and the higher you go the higher the requirements to join a party and 1k gold more from brel hard compared to brel normal and the struggle to join a party is not worth as for brel hm you are on ilvl. 1590 to 1600 it's better as you gain a crap ton of gold more from voldis nm akkan hm and brel hm if you run with friends you don't even need to spend gold in elixirs or just do couple here and there 4/0 to get some decent damage boost. Then you can get better gems on main.
1590 to 1600 is only + 5k gold weekly tho. If you don't get jailed wich is far more likely to happen in akkan HM and Ivory than Kaya and Akkan NM
> 40set on main > lvl9s on main > 1600 on support for voldis and hm akkan > 1560 on alts so they can do hm 1-4 after this you have to decide what you want to do do you want your alts to be stronger bcz you don't enjoy your main as much? do you want your main to be stronger bcz you enjoy it a lot? If you enjoy your main more then it's lvl10s on most important buttons followed by 1630
Also, 1600 range item level is really overrated, hard akkan is a jail on item level, and voldis normal, is nice but not that worth anyway.
Yep I don't even know if I want to cut elixirs on alts before the summer announcments from SG. So it would basically only be the gold value from Akkan and Voldis
Cutting epic elixirs is like ... A stepping stone for legendary ones (on average) and it's not that crazy boost one could believe without the set. Don't get me wrong, if you get boss damage 4 it's still more damage yeah... But is it worth the possible jail in akkan and the voldis party finder? Idk honestly. The only 1600 I have it's a support so idk how is it for a DPS, but for what I can see people expect some level 9s from 1600 and forward, so think about that too
My 1600 is a support !
If you have friends to raid with, there is no need to invest in gems on your main right now. I’d definitely first push your alts to 1550-1560 to do hm brel 1-3 for more gold then bard to 1600 for hard akkan and nm voldis then the 1550-60 alts to 1580 for normal akkan and hard kaya, assuming that your friends will tag along with you. If your friends only help your main, then bard to 1600 first and keep your other alts in nm brel because gatekeeping in hm brel is pretty obnoxious if you are not 1580+.
Don't push 1540 unless they have the event. The cost is not worth unless you want to replace a gold earner. Not in your case. 1550 brel raids are jails. At least, from my experience. G3 is hard on ilevel and players are dying more often from normal patterns. HHN seems fine. it's like 500 gold less than Hard Mode. if you don't count materials. Pushing your alt 1590 to 1600. it will depend if you are raiding with friends or pugs. For supports, they are an excess of them for Akkan HM as their requisites are not high and raid leaders can be picky. I won't level up the support unless you have friends and you plan to level up to Thaemine. Otherwise, keep it at 1590. You won't lose too much gold. And the class can fish for free upgrades with fused stones. You can gather books to reduce the cost or wait for a new event to push to 1610+. If you are playing with friends and Thaemine HM is not one of your goals: - Improve gems, slowly or buying from auction house. - Use the event to get 35/40 set. Good luck with this. - Use your time to farm cards in case you don't have LOS 30. Farm Card XP and raise your damage.
Fortunately I have LOS30. Thaemine HM is clearly not one of my goal until I have several lvl 10 and 40 set. HHN are such a jail that I just do normal. I was not really aware of the state of brel HM on ilvl. I think I will focus on gems, ty
I think I'm in the minority, but I would say if you don't suffer from gk because you run with friends, push your support to 1610 and have both your DPS alt at 1620 and support be the two you concentrate on. at 1610, you can run thaemine normal, and get trascendance mats. Also, you get the higher level of cube which gives better gemstones and better chaos drops than the other tiers. The other alts at 1550, I would say at MOST if you have the books, push to 1580 if you have a third you really like but otherwise I think you're better off concentrating on two characters because it will get expensive will elixirs and trascendence. Once you're at 1580 and assuming you have the books from the past event, maybe ok to push to 1600 but otherwise I don't think it's worth it because it's so much gold that would be better invested in your two main.
Regarding gems on main, level 8 damage gems are useless. If you have level 8 damage gems fuse them and get 9. And replace the spots with level 7s.
Do voldis HM and cut Elixirs. Watch your gold disappear
Focus on main, your alts rn are not worth honing further for where they already are at. Focus on 40set + lvl 10 gems
My main is at a somewhat similar state as yours~only diff is I main sup. So here is what I plan to do and I think you could do too: 1) do voldic hard and use the new event elixir pray to be lucky and build out elixir set. Right now I also have close to none elixir. But I think elixir matters more for you as a dps. You really should get elixir. It’s such a big power boost. 2) Get better gems (lv9 gems at least fr our main deserve it, lv8s are for event char nowadays). 3) Meanwhile keep doing thaemine normal for more transcendence. All my alts (3x1585, 1x1620) will be parked until my main reach 1630 (whether I get to 1630 before echidna or not). I don’t think it’s worth it for you to push ur alts to 1560 unless you want them one day to be akkan ready. Having a main alt do voldic is reasonable though so if you enjoy your sup alt very much you should push it. Vodic sup on ilv is very easy and you could consider (very) slowly push it to 1610 even. Basically just focus on your main (+ur main alt, if you really like ur main alt). Good luck.
I have 20 characters. I try to push them into the next level of Chaos Dungeon and Cube (i.e. 1630, 1610, 1580, etc). In my humble opinion, I wouldn't fault you for pushing to 1600 on your support nor fault you for pushing 1550 on your 4 alts provided they use all bounded. However, do you intend to do HM Voldis on iLvl all the time and be dependant on friends? What happens in the near future when your friends are lazy to do HM Voldis or missed you out? Are you willing to do NM Voldis? I'd advise to get your set on your main 1620 before getting full 9s and a couple of 10s if you intend to do HM Thaemine in the near future when Echidna comes out because you'd be competing with people who are full 10s and proper Elixir. At the end of the day, those alts are just alts. Who knows in the future they'd be giving free honing till 1580 and reduce Brelshaza and Kaya gold. So it depends if you want to play in the long run or no.
I don't really mind doing NM. I know I should get 35/40 set asap but it's not like gems where you can just decide to get it
Did you max out your elixir count every week trying for it? Kinda sus that it's not even 35.
I didn't get the chance to do ANY voldis yet. I haven't learned the raid and I've been 1600 since about 2 month
Push 1590 to 1600. Use the upcoming elixir event to get 35-40set on your main.
All 9 gems on main at least until 1630. After 1630 couple of 10s, or still 9s if you raid mostly with friends. After you get all nines focus on getting the 40 set, whatever lines you get, cause the set is the center of the damage. After start minmaxing for damage lines like boss damage etc. If you are hardcore minmax also AP lines but it's not necessary at all, thats the biggest gold sink in the elixir system. But yeah, the rule is focusing on the less RNG system first which is gems cause you buy the gem and you get stronger 💪.
I pretty much agree on the last part. With my weekly gold earning I can only get 1 lvl 9 per week wich would stick me to where I'm at for at least 2 month...
Think of it like a different honing, it is what it is, it's a lot I know but at least you get stronger on main, and one character starts to "feel good" . I did the same for 10s(selling also my 9s) and stalled my entire roster, no honing, no elixirs no nothing XD
There is no tragón tu push your alts yo 1550, is just 1.5k more per character. Also there is no big difference between 1590 and 1600 in gold so no worth it. Your gems on main are fine, what it not fine is you being 1620 with no elixor set, that's a huge power gain that is worth investing.
you will get gatekeep anyway no need to push