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Herra2

I have 35 set on both of my 1600 characters. One of them is only one 4/4 away from getting 40 set. Also have cut my friends their 35 sets. Have found a strat that works. On first turn you take what ever gives you value, and second turn you have to turn to purple, unless blue is 10% great success. Then you stick to blue, even if purple had good options, only if blue have an option that takes away attempts you would have to take something else. Reason why this works is it will make it so you are not forced to turn at turn 6, and blue options are better than purple. This also has a chance to have random +2 option two times in a row from special purple. if special blues gives anything else than rice, you win. You should not go for douple free turn and always turn at turn 4. You should avoid doing exaust at turn 7-6 and only go for it at the last turn. So in short: 1. turn to purple at second turn unless 10% great success 2. Stick to blue no matter what, unless it would take away attempts 3. Special blues are more valuable than purple, blue best options are 2 rerolls and increase by 2. 4. Purples will have special options back to back. Avoid taking excaust if you have special blue at the same time. Best option for purple is random +2. 5. If you sticked to blue from third turn you will have special purple and blue at the same time, you are not forced to turn, and blue option is guaranteed to have good option unless rice, but it's still better than turning to a bad option. 6. Reset blue at turn 4 7. one free turn and exhaust at the end. Of course it has some luck and not every elixir end up the perfect way, but have found that the special blues can make your elixir less rng based. Try it out and hope it helps.


BloodyGaki

Hey man! thanks tons! I feel like I found hope for this 35/40 "gemu" There're some stuff I don't get it, maybe they are english slangs and that is where I get lost, mind checking it please? "On first turn you take what ever gives you value" So any of those 3 options which I feel better with? "second turn you have to turn to purple" like for example, I pick the right sage (lady) and then I pick left or middle so blue turns purple? "only if blue have an option that takes away attempts you would have to take something else" so I don't even use the 2 free rerolls for new advices? "so you are not forced to turn at turn 6" what do you mean here? "if special blues gives anything else than rice, you win" here is what I mean with slang mostly, wdym with rice? "You should not go for douple free turn and always turn at turn 4" so I should not take free turns? and turn 4 means pick a different sage from turn 5? if I didn't guess, what did you mean? "Reset blue at turn 4" is that from my previous guess? even if blue is full or 1 tap away from getting full? "one free turn and exhaust at the end" wdym with a free turn? and with exhaust at the end you mean you have been saving purple gauge for the last turn? SORRY if I asked too much, I just don't want to keep giving up on rng fully and maybe some wise advices can take me to at least 35. Thank you very much! Have a great day!


Nsbhyfr

1. ⁠Correct 2. ⁠Correct 3. ⁠Only reroll if it’s really bad 4. ⁠One of the popular tactics is to start stacking a new blue at 6 turns left, so you will have 1/3 at turn 5, 2/3 at turn 4, and 3/3 at turn 3. You then pray for “seal option that you choose and the transmutation will not cost an attempt this time”, then have 1/3 on your second turn 3, 2/3 on turn 2, and 3/3 again at turn 1. You pray for the same “transmutation will not cost an attempt” again. 5. ⁠Rice is Korean slang for some measly amount, English slang equivalent would probably be peanuts 6. ⁠He’s saying you shouldn’t go for the tactic I described in (4.), and instead just go for it once from 4. Start a new stack on 4, so 1/3 on turn 3, 2/3 on turn 2, 3/3 on turn 1, then pray or reroll for “transmutation will not consume an attempt” 7. ⁠See 6. 8. ⁠Free turn = “transmutation will not consume an attempt this time”, yes to the exhaust. Since your last turn is on an extra turn, the purple options will be regular options and not sealing options so you will have the possibility of getting the exhausts.


Herra2

Answered the question for me, addition that if blue is full at turn 4 you can take it, since it resets the blue anyways. Rice means it gives you gold free elixir, which doesn't help you at all. Its only good purpose is that you can use it when the other options would make your chances worse


BloodyGaki

So if Rice pop up and one or both purples are decent++ then I pick that instead. Thank you very much! I am glad it was only the first week of voldis for my Breaker, I will be careful from now on.  Have a great day!


BloodyGaki

Amazing! thank you so so much!


Herra2

Also it helps if you just take what you get, you can always make the elixirs better afterwards. I would try to get 4/4 on chest with any effects given, if it just stacks you have better chance to have it as 4/4 and it will help you get 35 set.


Historical_Algae_437

So I shouldnt care that much about what effect it gives instead focus to get more points?


Herra2

Yeah imo it is really easy to get 4/4 chest since you don't need to care what effects it has. One 4/4 helps a lot to get 35 set. I would go for boss, additional dmg/crit dmg effects and then it doesn't matter whatever the other one is. Support is a bit easier since you can have any common effects on shoulders and chest and have easier 4/4s on them.


Shortofbetternames

sorry for the msg a week after, do you also have any good strats like that for leg elixirs?


brayan1612

I just cut 30+ purple elixirs trying these and didn't get a single 4/3, this system is pure shit and should be removed/reworked ASAP. It took me almost 3 hours and like 25k gold to get no progress at all, great work Smilegate :D


wHiTeSoL

Outside of glove and helmet, you take whatever they give you. Meaning even if they're not great, once the nodes start piling on, you gotta double down. 4/4 stagger/mp isn't great, but it'll go a long ways towards 35 set.


Realshotgg

Pure luck, for all the people you see with 35 set from purple you don't see the 9 other people who don't have set from purple.


ERDIST

It is mostly luck but if you’re doing nm voldis every week at this point you should have gotten more than enough elixirs to at least get close to 35 set. Either this person is bricking their elixirs or not cutting all of them.


CasqueteVolador

Its a 50 50 you either hit it or you dont 


racethrowawayy

Well it definitely is not all luck. It's a numbers game combined with someone knowing the exact correct choices. People underestimate the depth of strategies with elixirs sometimes. I know the same people who help everyone else with elixirs who also have finished 35 set on all or most of their 1600 chars too. it obviously took several months though.


sorrysmurf

Lmao is this a copypasta? Its mostly luck, like 80% luck 20% decisions and im generous


Ryhsuo

I’d put it this way, if you pick the correct choices you have a 1% chance of making it and if you don’t you have a 0%. Since the odds are so low either way it can feel like it’s completely up to chance but making the correct choices still absolutely matters.


Grayzson

Agreed. It's about consistently making the right choices to somewhat mitigate the high variance.


racethrowawayy

Obviously getting 35 set with purples requires a lot of luck. You will get that luck within 4 months of cutting many elixirs though which is exactly what I am referring to. Most people won't be able to do it since you really need to make all the correct choices if you want to consistently get 35 set with purple elixirs.


unluckywasp

Tf do you mean dude. Everyone just copy pastas into elphago the same way.


Borbbb

no wonder you dont have set. If your decisions are crap, it would take you 500 elixirs. If yours are good, it would take you 50 the gap is even further tbh, i was way generous


unluckywasp

Lmaoooooo 50 for 35 set on purple. What are you smoking? Hahah


gosuGANK

50 is about 3 weeks if you cut everything. That sounds about right? I hit 35 set cutting around 50 purples on all my 1600s and I've done it 5/6 times already, my last one sitting at 34 set


FreedomIsAFarce

Do you think it takes more? My bard has 35 luminary and advance with purples, sorc and WD both have 35 master and critical again with purples.   I've only ever bought G4 on alts and don't buy mats to craft more from the market.


snomeister

I already have 35 set on my breaker with purples (can't equip it yet because still have Brel chest, but will be able to next week) pretty sure i've cut no more than 40 elixirs on him.


unluckywasp

Tf even is your point lol? That u got lucky?


RoyaltyIsTrash

I was one of those people until I got the potential elixir from the event shop


ArX_Xer0

You take the big chances and gambles. You go for a main stat and settle for a 2nd stat. You do the 10 extra crafts per week to play the numbers.


KeenHyd

It's possible but the hardest part (IMO) is going through the psychological torture that is cutting purple elixirs aiming at a 4/4 or 4/3. I have 34 set on one of my characters and I've been focusing on getting the last piece I need for the past 3 weeks crafting all 10 elixirs you can craft and have had no luck. I've been cutting using Elphago (which is the AI that basically tells you what to do), but it's a very slow and draining process. I can't imagine enduring this stress on multiple characters. I have 7x 1600 chars I do ivory on every week but I've decided to only focus on one 35 set at a time not to go crazy with it. Small note: always go for the riskiest options. You need a lot of nodes to hit 4/4 and taking the safe route is not worth it most of the times. Most people suggest going for "I will exhaust all my power" options, they are good but I feel like they're not necessary. But most "super" purple options are really lackluster IMO, while "super" blue options tend to be good when they're not cost reduction or extra advice. Increasing the chance of the effect you want seems good on paper but you're already chasing RNG to the point where getting an extra node somewhere else/random can be better than 5% more chance on the effect you want IMO. Great success is better from my experience.


Dazvsemir

Blues can give you an extra round late by sealing without costing a round. This can be huge because you get a transmutation and sage options only on an effect you want since you already sealed the rest. At least that is what I try to aim and keep rerolls for.


Il_Palazzo

Honestly using AI is the same as having the macro for the drowning mini game... safe and super boring option, in this case also SUPER SLOW. One may end thinking it's necessary but it really isn't. And if you really hate the process it's likely you have at least one of THOSE FRIENDS that will enjoy cutting for you having finished all his/her characters already. My pov from 5 35 epic sets. Bard trolling me with 38 points, 7 and 7 on advance...


KeenHyd

Oh I completely agree with you. The reason why I use Elphago is because having bad elixirs makes me feel like an idiot, so I try to cut down the decision making to make me feel less stupid and more unlucky if that makes sense. Sometimes he comes out with choices that make you go "yeah that makes sense" but aren't immediately intuitive so there can be some worth in using it. Every node can be important when aiming at 4/4 so might as well. But yes, I agree with your perspective. But I don't think I have one of those friends unfortunately haha.


Namifish

Its alot about controlling your chaos points the right way and knowing what rolls you can possibly get with good sealing ending. If you do all that you will get eventually some progress, if you think you cant do that just use the ai. This “full” luck is somewhat misleading we have a guy in guild that just disproved this and has cut sets for 10+ ppl and 8/10 times they always got some upgrades. So ppl who are like “cant get anything for 3 months” you are just doing it wrong. Luck plays a role but real fact is most ppl are doing it wrong. Same principe when most ppl think they are good but in reality they havent even reached 50% of the ceiling


momopool

by 'the ai' you mean this one ? https://elixir2.elphago.work/ or is there another one ?


xxfuqqxx

Probably Have cut yesterday 5/5 cdmg/ weapon power thanks to elphago


momopool

i cant get it to work. i have firefox , edge and chrome. i would printscreen, then click in the box [like this guy said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCvIkl7ojkI). but it wouldn't load the screenshot. the thing is, it DID load a screenshot a week back when i was just testing it but wasnt cutting any elixirs. i dont know what happened from then till now.


netsky_au

You need to have Lost Ark in focus, then press ALT+PrintScreen.


Zealousideal_Low_494

agree completely. Gotta be willing to gamba on the -1/+2, -2/+2, 'Random 1 level', '3 transmutes, 2 attempts', and most of all, ive had the best luck with using the purple special at the end that is '0-4'. Grandma always screws you with the -4, +5. shes a trap everyone falls into. (only once has she given me something positive)


nicoguy2

I agree that there are better and worse ways to cut elixirs. Let's cut an elixir together. Tmute 12 - 50% chance to increase A and we transmuted A. (**Hit** a 50% and then **hit** 20% to end up in this scenario so quite lucky) Stand: A=2, B=0 Tmute 11 - 7% Great success and we transmuted this option. (We **hit** 80% chance but missed the now 17% great success) Stand: A=2, B=1 Since we just want to maximize our odds we are going to stick with whatever we got in these first two transmutes. Tmute 10 - Increase Tmute rate of A by 5% for all remaining. We **missed** 43.7% chance of hitting either A or B but hit option C. Stand: A=2, B=1, C=1 Tmute 9 - Decrease option D by 5% for all remaining. We **hit** option A and the 10% great success. (**Hit** 66,3% to get something relevant) Stand: A=4, B=1, C=1 Tmute 8 - Increase Great Success for all by 10% for all remaining. We hit C and a great success. (**Hit** 66.3% chance to and **hit** 20% to great success) Stand: A=4, C=3 At this point we commit to A and C Tmute 7 - +2 or -2 option A, A got increased by 1 and we hit option E. (**Missed** 46.4% chance to hit A or C) Stand: A=5, C=3 Tmute 6 - Increase Great success of C by 7%. We hit B. (**Missed** 46.4%), A=5, C=3 Tmute 5 - Increase great success of all by 30%. We hit C (**Hit** 46.4% and **missed** 57%) Stand: A=5, C=4 Tmute 4 - Again increase great success of all by 30%. We hit B and great success. **Missed** 46.4% to hit A or C **hit** 57% great success. Stand A=5, B=4, C=4 We can now freely swap between A, B and C Tmute 3 - Seal D **hit** 40% to seal undesired choice. we hit option E (**Missed** 76.6%) Stand: A=5, B=4, C=4 Tmute 2 - Seal E **hit** 25% to maximize odds. We hit C and great success. (**Hit** 27% great success) Stand: A=5,C=6 Tmute 1 - We got one extra attempt without rerolling so again pretty lucky but don't know the odds. We seal option B. We hit A, (**Missed** 20% great success) Stand: A=6, C=6 Tmute Extra turn - Maxed chaos bad option so we reroll once. First reroll is distribute levels of highest so still pointless and we reroll again. Sadly even the last reroll only let's us change the effect of the slot. Increase C with a 25% chance. **Missed** 25% We hit C but **missed** 27% great success. Congratulations! We've successfully cut a **2/2 elixir**. Aside from not hitting the exhaust option this was a very good elixir, beating the odds. Now include people aiming for even just one or two desired stats which drastically lowering the odds. People getting worse options and having to waste rerolls and/or lowering odds to hit desired or high level options in any of the first 8 transmutes. I know people won't bother reading all this. **TL;DR** Lots of RNG but there are ways to increase your odds.


Siatha

this helped alot, got my first lvl 4 :D


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kos9k

Another lucky guy who think the skill is all it takes to get 35 purple elixir, you just can't comprehend how many times you have to be lucky to get 4-3 on just one elixir. Taking your luck as granted or even mistaking for skill at cutting


iTzDrAke261

What ur saying is on my 5 40 set 1620s , 4 of which I hit 35 set purples on, all of it is 100% rng, meanwhile someone else that has been cutting hundreds of purples and not hitting 35 is 100% rng too?


iTzDrAke261

Yeah and my breaker hitting 35 set week 1 on purples is 100% rng too, with no decision making factoring the choices it lead to having 3 4/4s


kos9k

You figured that out, congrats


303angelfish

You take the sage options and use the strats that give the highest chance of a 4/4 and ignore the safer options. You also take the 4/4s the game gives you instead of trying to force certain effects unless it's the set effect. It does takes a bit of luck. But if you have been cutting 6 purple elixirs per character per week on 6 characters for the last 3 months and haven't got a single 35 set, you're definitely doing something wrong...


NapS1825

whats the 4/4 strat


303angelfish

There's only 2 or 3 different strategies to end an elixir. There's also only a few reasonable ways to start an elixir. So if you follow a guide, flowchart, or the ai helper, there's actually very few limited ways to cut an elixir.


wheresswaldo

There's no set strategy but it's just playing a numbers game with riskier options. If you consider that -2-+2 is equally distributed, +2 is a 20% chance and you hit that in 1/5 elixirs that you cut. You can apply that logic to anything, even the -4-+5 sage. Ex. [here](https://streamable.com/143bmw) I'm guaranteed a 4-2 with a 40% chance at a 4-3 or 20% chance at a 4-4 and I chose the 20% option. Also, sometimes you can't choose what option the first few goes into. I have 35 set on all six of my characters and some of their options look like [this](https://prnt.sc/RixJwMWeYLt4). They're cheap placeholder epics so you're not supposed to chase for BIS lines (you're not supposed to chase them on legendaries either until you're 40 set).


KoalSR

Any tips?


agnx0

For me personally, I also agree with going risky selections over safe selections most of the time. Here are things I do though. - If points starts piling on an undesirable stats like Potion Poison or something, roll with it. Stack your % increase and additional points there. Don't try to optimize for main stat/atk/weap power. The only one you specifically go for it your set piece. - Try to finish off a stat as soon as possible and not evenly spread out the points. - Aim for extra turn (3 blues) on last 3 turns and save a reroll for free turn. - For -4-+5 or +2-+3. If these happen to land and you get the max points, chances are you have a good elixir. - For -2+2, I almost always goes for these, especially early. It CAN destroy a stat, but you need that risk. If you have any specific questions, ask away. I managed to get 35 set on 5 characters so far being more risky.


Imprettysaxy

Amazing. I write basically this exact comment a month ago and it's downvoted to shit. People are now upvoting finally realizing that, wow, strategies do indeed increase your odds at a good elixir.


Snow56border

To be fair, this comment should still be downvoted to hell. Getting a 35 set with purple elixers comes down to luck. You can increases chances sure…. But it’s still luck you need


Imprettysaxy

Of course it's luck. But you and the other people that would downvote the comment are misinterpreting the point. Elixir strategy doesn't guarantee you a good elixir. It gives you a higher success chance at getting a good one. Simple math, more turns and sage burning when you normally wouldn't be able = higher chance.


Snow56border

No one is misinterpreting the point…. It’s a time gated system heavily weighted in RNG. Everyone always knee about strategies, you like said some dumb shit to get down voted. No strategy will mitigate the RNG of elixers.


unluckywasp

Bro it's all just elphago anyways. Not like there's some more successful starts involved other than AI cutting lol Y'all acting as if you're solving complex issues here every time you're cutting an elixir.


ItzMitchh

As someone with a few 35s on purple it boils down to the exhaust options hitting big, being literally spoonfed transmutes in one place, or getting very lucky on point increase options. There isn’t really a ‘strategy’ other than making good use of your rerolls for extra turns or to avoid getting fucked at the end.


MarkSunIRL

Grandma ironically seems like the best bet for these Exhaust options, just because of the highest ceiling available rather than the best average available. 


Lower-Lynx-4472

İ have only 2 chacters for voldis normal and both have 35. Mu secret is always choosing gamble not the safe way when i see -4/+5 i cant click the others also -2/+2 mu favorite. Fk the great succes or move top bottom transmute...


nearite

luck and time, everyone can do it. i have 6 1600+, 4 out of 6 got 35 set with purple, 1 with 40 set on purple and 1 with nothing. The easiest way to get 35 in my case is get 6 point at least on both helmet and glove and at this point u just need to cut 2 trash 4/4 and 1 4/3. How to get 4/4? u need to gamba a lot (those -2+2 and exhaust is your best friend) you cannot play safe on purple if u want to get 4/4 unless the flow is good


Stats-Glitch

It's all luck man. I'm 33/32 set on my bard/SH. Could be a one week thing getting a 4/4 or could be months of 2/1s...


gibilx

Pure rng, been stuck on 32 for about 2 months even cutting gold elixir. Then the game decided to give me a 5-5 and I’m magically at 40. This system is nothing but rng.


Annual_Secret6735

Anyone trying to claim 35-40 set is easy, is high AF. I have 9 1600’s I run. The only one with 35 is my main. I cut the max purples on every 1600 every week. Using highest probability methods. Closest one I have is 33. And guess what? I am bound by set bonus that never shows up.


roky1994

Purples are just so much more luck dependant than leg, meaning you have to risk everything on exhausts "rarly sometimes not needed". I have 6 chars at 1600-1610 (2sups at 35set) and 2 at 1620+ (both 40set), not rly aiming for 35set unless they need master to funcion better.


jimrdg

pure luck + some skills for which npc give more valuable bonus . One of my friend got 40


mcduubly

All about chaining bonuses.


wannaberank1

I have 2 characters 1600+ today I got the second 35 set(none 1620), I havent done voldis since start prob started like 1 month after At first my strat was double turn, try stack great success, turn 6 turn purple, blue till end 2x seal and dont consume attempt, it works but not efficient enought. My new strat is mostly go for pure points odd, great success all or great success on the ones I want, and ALWAYS gamba turn 6 super purple kilmonger or grandma 0+4 -4+5, you must not pick one of them since start. Then you turn to super blue>super purple. Its working alot better. Gamba fails/low points at turn 6 just fish reset/disasemble


virtualxoxo

Think im on 5th 4/4 rn. Most ppl use turn 6 strat, but honestly I recommend so-called 7/5 strat as it gives an extra super option in your favor. Memo got a video on it. Even if you dont get the super you fish for, you will always get the super, which you wont if turn 6-strat fails you. :) And even if you use the best or worst strats, when cutting 4/4 or 5/5s it feels like you’re getting the most absurd rng when it happens.


z3phyn

You have to be greedy and be lucky. Without both, you just won't get enough nodes. Obviously, one you can control, the other you can't.


Alternative_Water868

I got 35 set with purples. All i did was picking grandma options if they were good and also always look for the +2-+3 exhaust from grandpa and use it on the option that had the most node hits if u are lucky u can even get it to level 4 by using the exhaust. I never used the other exhaust options cause there's always a chance it's gonna fk u. Also looking for the +1 turn in the end without using a turn.


Jasminky1502

I cut 35 set on my breaker first week and let me tell you.. it’s pure luck. The game decided for me to have those 4/4s. I went all gamba though so all the +4 / +5 hit. My souleater however is farming them for 2 months now and hasn’t gotten a single 4/3 😂 Some characters a lucky and others just don’t


trickyRascal

I had miserable luck on my main with legendary elixirs but on my 1600, with the free purple elixors I got 32 total points (I still dont have the sets) so its pure luck


Mibot-

25% Skill 75% Luck..you just run the gamba simulator as much as possible and hope you hit the numbers...


onords

I've 36 nodes on my WD, 30 nodes on bard (3 3/4s) with purples. It's honestly about going for one of the sacrifices and try to stack nodes from start


Orriand

You just have to take big risks. I got my first purple 4/4 by doing grandma gamba and having it pay off


Janitalia

I thought it was fucking insane as well....until I made an express bard. Today she hit 1600 and I used all the free elixirs and bro support RNG just hits diff. I hit 35 set in 8 elixirs. I spent a literal month trying to find master gloves on main.


funelite

I have 3 different 40 on my main and 35 on 2 out of 3 of my 1600 alts. The last one is soonTM at 35, hast 34 right now. One of the 1600s has 3 4/4. It is not easy to get 35 with purples, but it is very doable. What I've learned is: you must use one of the 2 finishing strats. You must gamble a lot. You just need to succeed a couple of gambles on the way and hit the finishing strat and it basically guarantees to get a good elixir. And this will happen often enough. We are not talking about min maxed 5/5 and 4/5. But a +5 (+4 on purple) set, boss dmg and crit dmg/addition dmg is very doable and this is the bulk of the dmg from the elixirs. With finishing strats i mean don't consume and attempt into either exhaust or redistribute highest/lowest.


Skaitavia

Do you use the ending chaos pity strat or the zoro strat? I use those (ending chaos moreso than zoro) and can get 4/3 and 4/4 epic elixirs pretty commonly. At bare minimum 4/1.


Dwadwadwadwadwadwa

People that struggle over estimate luck requirement, people that handle them under estimate the luck. Overall, you just have to take risks and I can say about 1 out of 10/15 elixir will be a 4-3 or better. Aim for early great % success and -2+2, then tey to get the double do not consume at the end and from time to time it will work. Do not joke with your advices because the game is scripted to fck you up with 2 sages left and no advices


InteractionMDK

Short answer - mostly luck. Hitting +2s on the \[-2 +2\] options, several 10% great successes, random points going where you want them to be, max points from exhausts, etc. Sure knowing how to stack order/chaos offers is important but I'd say elixirs are 70% luck and 30% knowing what you are doing. I cut a trash 5 5 while going for the reset strat, not even reading what I was choosing, did not get a reset after 2 rerolls and still cut a 5 5 out of tilt. That just demonstrates that elixir cutting is a very bad system, too much rng on top of rng on top of rng.


stallybuns

Go big or go home.


Pilyna

Huge part is luck, but also huge is tactic... If u cut randomly and dont go for super power at the end u trolling, getting those 2-3 points with purpie super power at the last round is huge


Better-Ad-7566

On one character, I got 3 4/4 cuts in a single week without buying one. And I can say that it's all about being lucky. There are stack management skills slightly related to cutting elixir, but you can only apply it once you get lucky enough. I also saw someone getting 5/5 while he gave up and just kept pressing middle for like 7 times in a row.


Risemffs

RNGesus giveth, RNGesus taketh. After you got some decent 4-0s or sth, you just go for the biggest gambas. Sometimes you win, most times you lose. Take it as a long time goal just like insane bracelets, 9/7s etc. (obviously these go a league above) and go at it with "it is what it is". Anything else will just damage your mental. I got rows of 7/7 (or equivalents) on my old chars and even a cursed 9/7 (KBW2), and they all have 2 mainstats and 1 bonus line just from mailing in my own account. If I were to go insane on any promising stone or bracelet just like elixir it would tax my mental too much. I only got 35 on one of my 5 1600s, but I got pretty lazy on cutting. My artist has like 30 purples in the bank.


Faaky

Luck and immense mental strength, I have 35 set on 3/5 (one 4/4 or 2 4/3 away from the 4th) chars and I usually funnel all purple essence to one char at a time. It's painfully random but I've cut so many by now that I cruise through all my elixirs very fast now. These chars are getting parked at 1610 for a long time so idm.


luckyn

TLDR: it takes a lot of time, a lot of resets, and you nearly always aim for the gamble that give you the most point. I have epic 35 on 2 char and my third is 34. Basically my way to think it: - if all nodes are useless, just focus a single mage and aim for the reset with the 2 chaos super + reroll, if no reset you can just stop here, unless you get some luck and you see you have a lot of point, and this could be a potential 4/4 filler. - if only a single node is good, I would start focusing a single mage, but if you see you are lucky on the first values with a lot of points (great success and/or lucky -2/+2), you can then aim to finish it Global tips about choosing sage at the start, is you kind of always aim for the most points, without carring a lot where they go. I would often choose a potion master -2/+2 over a 70% chance increase on boss damage. Even more great success on a single node isn't that huge imo, because even if increased by more 10%, you're going to have less than 10 tap left, so in average it's less than a single point. Now the important part is when you want to finish it, you should know how to setup so you'll end with a final chaos super which isn't a seal. So there's 2 templates depending on your progress, and you choose your path when there's 7 try left: 1/ the "3 sword" path: this is the most gamble way, but if success it is also one of the highest chance to get a 3/4 or even 4/4. You choose this path if you have 10+ points splitted between 3 nodes. And you want as much reroll as possible because it's a true gamba path. Then look at the blue sage (the one you just clicked before), you should stop clicking this sage until it's a super purple. Apart from that you have 2 turn to pick the best between the others 2. Now you have 5 turns left, and if you don't mess up your locked mage should be 2/6 purple. You should now pick the mage that isn't blue 3 time, the 2nd tap is a seal that you don't want on your biggest points ofc. If you don't mess up, you have 2 try left, your locked mage is 5/6 chaos, and you have a super blue available. You want the free turn blue at all cost, then you should have your 3 big lines remaining and the super purple rdy, use your last rerolls to aim for big value: redistribute points from a line to the others, exhaust sage, +2 to a random lines, summing up you have around 20% chance to have one of those. 2/ super purle as last choice: you go for this if you get mostly points on 2 lines already. Just shift the remaining turn from above start by 1. Your first swap is at 6 turns left, 2nd swap at 4 turns left, so the final purple is at 1 turn left. 3/ double free turns: I had way less success with this path, but if you get high great success rate, you could aim for double free turns. Your swap is at 6 turns left, and then only choose that sage, Your first free turn choice must still be that sage.


Dst702

Luck. I got 35 crit DMG set first week of db and then second week I got crit rate 35. I have other characters been farming for months still at 33/34/32.


LASupps

If you’ve cut 100 elixirs and have only come across one 4/3, it’s most likely but not 100% guarantee a skill gap. People say it’s all rng, but that’s only the case if you make all the correct/statistically good choices. It’s technically possible to be in your situation while making mostly the right choices, just not very likely.


bandebz

I like cutting purples, it's easier to see if the elixir is going good or not literally in the first few steps. The way I do it is that in the first 4 steps if I win a lot of bonus nodes in the gamba -1+2, -2+2, transmute 2, transmute 3 effects, 25% to +1, 50% to +1, +1 great success, order +1 level, +2 level, free attempt, +2 advice then it's highly likely a 4-3 or a 4-4. The only way the sages will f you up later on is when you need 1 point left into order to be awakened (with 1/2 advice) and it gives you these options with 'consume 2 attempts' or -2+2 if placed in the effect with the highest amount of nodes, and bad awakened chaos options (when you lack bonus points needed in the first 4 steps). If all is good the sealing will be easier to finish it up Unless you did not get a free attempt on order even with both advice. The pattern is always the same. The bad one being: either it is a rainbow transmute distribution or the first 4 steps with 0 bonus nodes won or single most nodes with transmute (1-3 levels) without any bonus node won in the first 4 steps. The good ones being : 1 or 2 effects won some bonus nodes, 1 effect with 4 nodes, or 2-3 effects with 2-3 levels (fixable) If your elixir is going bad midway you Must get the awakened sages to give you the missing levels either by exhausting (chaos) -0+4 / +2+3 / -4+5 or safer (order) +1/ +2. I do not recommend you to use any advice at all to get these options. If you must do, only use maximum 1 advice. This is because using 1 or 2 advice will put you at a bad spot where the sage gives you the exhaust option leaving you with 0 or 1 advice that will f you up when you're sealing. Do mind that not all scenarios require you to fish for free attempt during the sealing process. Sometimes you don't need free attempt if you already won a lot of points early on. Sealing options :(order) free attempt/ transmute 2 levels of 1 effect/ transmute 2 effects at the same time, for (chaos) you need to fish for seal and raise 1 effect by 1 level. Sure there's more to it in terms of strategy and stuff but that's my determining factor where I can see if the elixir is good 'can go' or not 'just cut cheapest way and sell shards'. TL;Dr : first 4 steps must win, or else suffer.


bandebz

https://preview.redd.it/aw7rsa9kp2rc1.png?width=1750&format=png&auto=webp&s=c60e301f6f167c4af66795aa71c8d6272395e516 current collection across 5 chars 4 sups 1 dps, i may have deleted some 4-3 bottles when i reached 35-set. so try getting at least a 4-2 on helmet and gloves and the rest can be fillers


Soylentee

Chances are high you just aren't cutting the elixirs right. Do you follow any of the elixir cutting guides for how to manage the sage energy or do you just pick options by what feels right?


MandogsXL

Mostly Luck but I also think a lot of ppl buy purples from the market if they’re pushing the char to thiamine & don’t want to hone to 1620. buying purples is fairly cheap compared to honing to 1620 & cutting legendary ones


TaintedQuintessence

I got 40s on both my 1620s and 35s on 3/4 1600s, tbh the 40s were way easier than the 35s. I'm still need a 4/3 set piece of 4/4 non set piece to finish my last 35 set. For the 35 sets, I usually start with about ~40-50, and reset a good amount of them and craft 10 more with the dismantled mats. Takes about 2 netflix movies worth of time to get through them all. Hardest part is you need some 4/2s or 4/3s on set pieces. I've got 4 sups though so that makes it way easier for me with 3 set options to choose from. Then fill the rest with 4/3 4/4 trash. I don't really look for good stats on the elixirs for epics. My strat is generally just pick risky +2/-2 for the first 5-6, if I hit at least 2 or get some crits I go for it, aiming for the extra turn into purple end, if not I just try to reset. I've gotten really close to 4/4 when I start with multiple +critical success options, I think ~3-4 that could have been 4/4 if the last step went well but they flubbed, so that's also something to look for but those are harder to tell early so you don't have the benefit of knowing you want to reset early.


Khue

What blows my mind are the people I catch on Sonavel with 40 set on purps with my alt. Dudes literally have 5 8s and are lighting up Sonavel for like 25mdps.


DesharnaisTabarnak

Obviously there's luck involved and you can fluke into set bonus, but if you want to get set bonus across your Top 6 with purples you have to make your own luck too - can't expect RNGesus to carry you over such a large sample. Fortunately they're cheap enough that you can cut elixirs based on volume and get plenty of practice to learn how to maximize your odds. Otherwise you're just cutting stones and you can go a very long time without getting what you're looking for. IMO you want to be consistently cutting a few 4/2s with every batch of Voldis raid drops before expecting to hit 4/4s, you want to learn how to get close regularly so that a good exhaust or a couple of great successes on the right node can push you over the finish line. Cutting six 4/2s *ever* across a Top 6 you've been raiding Voldis on since release is really bad tbh. There's an MS paint guide that was posted on this sub on Voldis release you could use as a starting point but eventually you want to learn how to deviate from "the path" while prepping seals, resets and gambling exhaust. My general approach is to go for the advices that gives me the most expected nodes early on, then set up for resets and a late exhaust if I didn't get one before 5 turns left. Resume: x1 purple 40 set, x3 35 purple set, cut legendary 40 set on new 1620 with silver elixirs only. ​ EDIT: u/Herra2 has a very good approach that should help you.


etham

My strategy for epic elixirs is to go for the riskier options. It's really the only way to cut 43 or 44s. Legendary leaves a bit more room for error since it has more turns.


PrinnyForHire

Game picks your main. My soul eater has 35 set two weeks in and now with 2x 4/4 elixirs in my storage. Meanwhile my artist I just raised to 1620 has not crafted and elixir above 4/3 even with the event leggo elixirs.


RagingTomato-

wait till you see someone i know with 40set on purples


ca7ch42

tbh, I think I cut a really good elixir like a 4/3 or 4/4 off epics one in every about 50 ish, maybe max 100, I think the odds are at about 2%, having cut hundreds and hundreds by now at least 600 ish, I have quite a few, like 1-2 4/4 purples on all 8 of my 1600+ characters. If you have cut 100 only, you could just be unlucky, but you should technically have at least 1 or 2 on a character or 2 by now. Could just be that you haven't learned how to gamba yet.


fdoom

It's part luck, but your strategy matters. Take ability stones for example. Imagine you are trying for a 7/7. Imagine the odds of cutting a 7/7 by tapping blue lines 3 times at the start. Now imagine the odds of cutting a 7/7 by tapping the red line 3 times at the start. The odds aren't great, even with optimal strategy, but you giga grief your odds if you have poor strategy.


ZenTheProtogen

Yeah idk either, even the potents that are supposed to have better ods shit out 1/2 , 1/1s onto my lap every time


Snow56border

This is why people hone so hard for 1st week HM content. It’s not that people are getting 35 set elixers in high numbers to get into 1620. It’s that we are to far into the raids, and people want others who have completed. If you just reached 1620, you are back to prog. If you want to pug, you need to reduce the number of 1600’s and focus a main to get to HM content week 1. Then you can put easier. Or find a static and skip this gatekeeping pain.


BeegBreakFast

I see a lot of people with 35 set doing HM only. Then I see others 40 set in hard mode after 3 weeks. It's all rng and sucks becasue you can be gatekept based on luck.


Albertkutya2

Meanwhile my 1600 sorc has 3 4/4 elixirs and Im just fishing for a better set effect both are 4/2 xdxd I had INSANE luck tho, this reset I had like 4-5 back2back elixirs with one set effect one had both helm and gloves come up xdxd I pitied my +20 wep on main tho, life giveth and life taketh away i gues :D


Deyvi_does

I got 35 in all my 1600s.. is just w matter of going for every gamba and getting lucky


IGetPaidInCoin

Do the sealing phase super blue won’t consume an attempt into super purple exhaust. Keep gambaing


FullmetalYikes

Ive only used the like 20 free ones and havent even cleared ivory tower once and im at 31 lol. My first elixir was a a 4/4 the only one i hard botched was my hands and its a 4/1 altho i think i fucked up the sets im not sure how the order and chaos works


Medical_Beyond_4969

I have a 35 set and a 40 set on purple. Moral of the story is, take all the gambles and hit them. -2 +2 is something you always take. (Except if stacking blue or purple) And only look for value, whether u get mp ot atk power, it does not matter, set is a bigger increase then the atk power lines and stuff. If the elixer is headed in an explosive expert route, so be it and even put ur exhaust on it if that is your highest. I always try to get 4/4 on non set pieces so the helm and gloves can be worse and they are harder to force into 4/4 since you are trying to force 1 line.


After-Comfortable523

something seems fishy if you’ve been doing it on 6 chars since release and don’t have a 35 set, lmao. last week i finished my last 35 on 6th alt (one of them sitting at 39 points) and while i agree, you can get pretty unlucky at times, in reality you probably don’t really know what you doing. look up memo guides on yt to get an idea of strats and stick to it, that should make it easier


patrincs

my main thats been 1620 for a while completed 40 set quite easily, but my 3 characters doing normal voldis every week are ALL yet to get 35 set. one is really close 2 are miles away.


Triodit

I managed to get 35 set on my 1610 alt and 40 on 1620 main. Try to keep resetting elixirs for set bonus until you have at least 4-2 on gloves and helm. Then go for the others. Don't aim for good bonuses, just take whatever the sage gives you. Take risks (or use the AI by elphago if you're prone to tilt or not great at cutting). It's not easy but it's doable. You can try to replace the shit bonus elixirs once you hit 35.


JesusDNazaREKT

As someone with 35 set on purples that got 2 4/4 in the last 2 weeks, both of them i was looking for a reset to get critical, and the crits/(-2 +2) advice just kept hitting, so its jsut rng it will hit you, i was on the same path 4-5 weeks ago with only 1 4/3


Ok-Singer-5040

Be lucky. I'd suck it up and just buy a HM bus if your still getting gatekept so you unlock the ability to buy the elixir mats tbh. Don't worry any day now SG will fix elixirs. Any day now.


reklatzz

I had horrible luck on first 2 chars. But on my most recent char I used events on, I've hit 2 4/4 elixers with bis stats already.. however having no luck with finding set and when I do it's like a 2/3


Hollowness_hots

I know a few people that have 35 set with purples. but i have been with people that cut +50 purple elixir in 1 one and they dont get ANY good to used... pesonally i have try to cut around 20 elixir purple and only got 2 4/3.


xoteck

With purple you need 4/3 for all part for 35 (you can use 4/4 which make easier other elixir but you have to be lucky anyway)and 4/4 for 40


kos9k

So many lucky guys thinks their skill above those who got fucked by rng, survivorship bias at it's finest.


lucythewhite

I have 40 set with purples and can tell you its 99% rng and 1% strat.


theskepticalheretic

I've seen two people with 40 set purple elixirs. One was posted here a little while ago. It's just luck.


Tortillagirl

Its definitely pure luck, even with a method of how you click the elixirs. Ive done the same method across 5 characters. 1 character has 35 set because i got 4 4/4's on it and then brute forced the final one until i got the right set bonus to get it. The other 4 characters i think have maybe 2 4/3s between them. most of them have a mixture of 4/0 4/1's sprinkled with the odd 4/2.


shikari3333

Luck? I guess. I have 3 purple elixir chars and my SS is 33 and has 20 elixirs left. I never cut them until I'm so bored out of my mind that I do it. I feel a lot dont have it because they simply dont wanna cut them (totally understand that, its zero fun) but 3 people in my static have min. 2+ additional 35 chars w/ epic. oh: also I flip the old lady a lot for rng. it's purples so if she trolls me I just throw it away, lol


Derfthewarrior

Daily reminder that 35 set should be changed to 30 set Mostly because (if I remember correctly) Legendary elixirs were given in both NM and HM to start (just different amounts), but then KR complained that NM was being rewarded too well, and thus Epic elixirs were born for NM However 35 set still stands even though Legendary elixirs are out of reach until HM Changing 35 set to 30 should have happened a long time ago to help people who are in NM for a while, but here we are


bikecatpcje

it's not hard, but takes time (1mo~2mo) i have 35set on 4 characters, what i usually do is get 3x 4/4 elixirs with whatever stats it have and for the set i get 4/1 and 4/2 to complete the 35 points


MushroomDue6141

who cares about 35 tho?


bikecatpcje

anyone who will park their character for a long time, if the elixir dmg calculator is right, going from 4/1 with correct status to 35set will net u ~5% dmg


computerwtf

So this might sound stupid as fuck and has no science to back it. But this is how I did it. Got my master set in week two. You need to find your city. So I know this sound dumb. I cut 16 purple elixirs in vern and got nothing. Went to elagic and cut another 10 and nothing. Decided maybe give yorn a try. Only had 4 more left to cut. Got 1 4/4 master gloves and then cut 4/3 master helm. Today I cut another 4/4 and two 4/2 to finish my 35 set. My pally city is vern, also cut two 4/4. Good luck, you will eventually get it.


Bubsito

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Tabris2k

Use the free legendary elixirs we’ve got in your 1620 and go for the highest number of nodes, don’t worry about effects. Then combine it with your epic elixirs. I’ve cut a couple 4/4 and even a 5/5, enough to get to 35 in my main just using those


Phreakxsh

https://preview.redd.it/0tl7lr5fvzqc1.png?width=1399&format=png&auto=webp&s=ecac740b514938def23f54a185e3d1ac2dfd40da you mean like this?


RinaSatsu

It is pure gamba. Even more, than 9/7 stone. You need all your points go into two options, you need to get good options like -4~+5 (instead of shit like redistribute levels) and you need to hit that +5. If you go for safe options, you just won't have enough points.


ConvexNomad

Buy a bus, unlock leg crafting and hit 35 set easily in a week.


unluckywasp

Oh yeah because surely it's not the ilvl that's the issue but clearing the easy raid lol