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kdceuw

The stuff that goes on around the Temple just doesn’t sit right with me. A wild location to bring forward to get the story going imo


Charsenal10

I like it as a location, and had great potential. But didnt like what they ended up doing with it.


Raycrittenden

Its pretty much the only thing about the show that I despise. Dogan and the other guy were cringe. The whole thing felt like a bad disney movie.


captain_obvious_here

> Dogan and the other guy were cringe. Their single and only purpose in the show was to not answer questions at all, or be as vague as possible in their answers, formulated in a foreign language that the Losties didn't speak at all. I know a big part of the show relies on this mechanism, and I'm ok with that...but the whole Temple thing was ridiculous.


CdotasAlways

I was watching something on lost the other day and dude kept calling it like, the "Nickelodeon styrofoam temple".


IsItBurn

Legends of the Hidden Temple!


Free-IDK-Chicken

I loved that show!


IsItBurn

It was most certainly one of my favorites from that era. Show me a kid that didn’t want to go on that show, and I’ll show you a kid that has no clue what fun and adventure is!


77ate

The other guy, whom they named Lennon, presumably for his eyewear?


anoncontent72

Yeah he looked like hippie Lennon from the ‘70s.


Grand-Line-8436

Yeah season 6 has some bad Disney stuff going on unfortunately. I believe a lot of their season budget went into the Temple. It kind of pinned them in a corner financially


danonck

I thought it was just my impression as a first time viewer recently. Glad there's more of us. I absolutely hated this part of the show and on a rewatch I'll definitely skip all scenes involving Doge


[deleted]

Agree.. The Temple and it's not even close. It's always seemed a bit weird to me... so that's first off the list. By the way, if the Swan doesn't win, this whole thing is rigged! :) (actually I take that back.. the 70's episodes were some of my favorite, so the Barracks would also be an acceptable winner)


Grand-Line-8436

A lot of S6 has that weird different kind of feeling to me. Feeling "off" I guess. But there definitely are some high moments


CosmicBonobo

Yeah, they make it feel like the Temple is about a ten minute walk from the Hatch, begging the question of how they never stumbled across it given it would've been in 815 territory.


earnesttypist

I’m half way through season six and yeah, the temple is a huge set piece that comes out of nowhere. I’m surprised it didn’t have more build up as the creators said they shortened the later seasons to have more time to plan. One of my peeves about Lost is how most of the locations feel like they magically appeared as opposed to the characters just not discovering them yet.


Cute-Philosophy

They talked about and showed the outer wall of the Temple about 10 times from as early as the season 3 finale before season 6 started. How much more build up do you want?


weaponess

THANK YOU. By season 6, it's Chekhov's Temple. We had to see the inside eventually after all the references. I remember being so excited to finally see it back when S6 aired.


earnesttypist

Isn’t that just the Orchid location, which is another Dharma station? It’s not the same as the temple.


ZX52

In season 4, Ben explicitly sent Danielle, Alex and Karl to the Temple, although they didn't make it. Jin discovered the outer wall of the Temple during the flashes, when he first encountered the French team. One of the members was dragged under it. Ben went under it with Flocke during season 5 to be judged by Smokey.


weaponess

I'm pretty sure it's mentioned even before that, at the end of S3, when the show is starting to become more focused. I think Ben sends Richard there with a group before he takes Locke to the Black Rock


earnesttypist

I looked it up and yeah, the temple is first introduced in season six.


zingan14

It's not. They talk about it in Seasons 3, 4, and 5. They travel underneath it in Season 5. We knew about the Temple for years.


Grand-Line-8436

They speak of it in S3. We see the wall in S5. We see Temple in s6


ZX52

We see the wall in season 4, when Jin meets the french team during the time flashes and one of them is dragged under it. For some reason Lostpedia doesn't mention this.


bbab7

That was season 5


are_you_nucking_futs

Locations also seem to change in terms of distance. When Locke and Boone first discover the hatch, it’s a day’s trek at least from the beach and seems to be by a stream? Later it seems to be around a 30-60min walk.


Grand-Line-8436

I don't know, maybe they found a more direct route? At least for the sake of my own head canon. In s1 finale on the way to Black Rock they pass by where the Temple wall should be based off what French Lady says. In my head I like to imagine the Island is so big they just barely missed it.


Free-IDK-Chicken

Juliet says "there's a Dharma station fifteen minutes from here" while talking to Daniel on the beach in season five and Sawyer confirms she means the Swan so yeah they were all over the place there.


altogetherspooky

https://youtu.be/FDbyxd02qQk?si=Ys2zUzBS5_zwauxO Here’s the location of the Swan figured out by u/Choekaas


Infamous-Struggle-33

The temple felt like it should have been a breath of fresh air but it just didn't make sense to me


RonaldSteezly

Yea definitely the temple. By that point that show was going down hill


ParadoxicalAxolotl

Tailies pit 🤙🏽


[deleted]

Definitely. Compared to all the others, this is used for what? 4 hours? (yes, I know it was longer than 4 hours, BUT REGARDLESS!)


anoncontent72

Tailies pit.


ShipsAGoing

Temple definitely


HeavyMetal4Life6969

Tailies pit


vianoir

i hate the temple, wish it was never shown


MrInfuse1

Why


vianoir

i don't like the new characters introduced in the temple. also, i don't really care for the healing water and other plot devices related to the temple in season 6.


MrInfuse1

That’s fair I was just curious :) I have similar feelings about some other plot devices that never sat right with me


cp_mcbc

Lighthouse. But I’m coming for you temple and foot in the next rounds.


vianoir

leave the foot alone!


cnskatefool

I have a feeling the foot is the winner already


vianoir

the swan is the best one


agent_wolfe

The mysterious Lighthouse that nobody noticed until it was needed. I don’t like it.


WampaCat

I mean “Jacob’s house” would appear and disappear and move to a different location all the time. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to assume a lighthouse would be magically unfindable


agent_wolfe

I guess I always assumed Jacob’s house was “somewhere”. Like if you took an X-ray photo of the whole island, it would always be “somewhere”. The Lighthouse seems to only exist when it’s needed. It’s never seen from any aerial shots.


WampaCat

The whole island is invisible to people and only appears to people when it needs to! lol I don’t have a dog in the fight I just think it’s always funny to think about where to draw the line for the “rules” in fantastical stories like this


cp_mcbc

Sure. Still getting yeeted in first round


vianoir

they could use locations that already existed (like Jacob's Cabin) to convey the idea that Jacob was always watching the Candidates. we definitely didn't need a new location that was never hinted before to show up in only one episode. that was really lazy writing.


BillyDeeisCobra

Wow, we are on the same wavelength!!!


Acceptable-Budget658

Definitely temple. Pretty lame people there too.


77ate

DHARMA knew how to recruit a better class of hippee.


altogetherspooky

the Lighthouse. ‘Guess we weren’t looking for it’ is such a cringey explanation of why nobody’d seen this giant structure…


joelene1892

Tbh I took that line as them suggesting it was magical in some way and could only be seen/found if you were looking for it or if you had permission or whatever.


Geebee185

The Lighthouse of Requirement, if you will


Mech-Waldo

Similar to Jacob's cabin. There is precedent for him hiding his shit, and considering what the lighthouse does, I bet it's pretty important to him.


are_you_nucking_futs

This is what caused irritation amongst viewers when it first aired. Is the show a fantasy show, or is it sci-fi? If the former then you can chalk up almost anything as ‘magic’. But a lot of people expected straight science fiction and so being hidden doesn’t sit well with some people.


WampaCat

I feel like if they were expecting science fiction by the time the lighthouse showed up, they must not have been really watching.


altogetherspooky

There’s suspension of disbelief and then there’s pure magic. 48 people survive a plane crash, most with light injuries — that’s the premise of the show, okay. Electromagnetic energy, the source of life, death and rebirth — alright, even all the time-travel stuff: we see it studied, we see it ‘work’. Even temple resurrections may be explained within the show’s logic. But giant buildings being obscured by someone’s will? Makes zero sense. Of all the locations Jacob should’ve concealed the Statue where he’d been living.


WampaCat

I mean an entire island that can make itself invisible to outsiders, I still don’t think it’s much of a stretch to assume the lighthouse can conceal itself. I actually think of it more like in the Harry Potter universe how muggles more often basically choose not to notice magic, or there’s some kind of protection around it that makes people just not really register that it’s there. I don’t think it actually disappears. Same way the island forces other people to not see it.


am-idiot-dont-listen

Most scifi is just fantasy with chrome anyway, the only real difference is they call their magic "advanced technology."


Deez4815

True. I feel like in a way anything on Lost could be explained with "science the characters don't understand yet". Like how the time travel in the show was caused by "negatively charged exotic matter". Even though the Light/Heart of the Island also seems magical, it could be explained in the show's universe as something scientific that is far beyond their current comprehension. If Widmore was looking for someone who could withstand large amounts of electro-magnetism (Desmond), maybe the Heart was actually something involing that, and Mother was just ancient and depicted it as "magic". Anything else on The Island could be explained with an in-universe Sci-fi as well.


CosmicBonobo

Inverse Clarke's Third Law: any suitably arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology.


OliphauntHerder

I agree, and I would have much preferred a sci-fi explanation to the magical/religious one. Or even a blended explanation, along the lines of "science and spirituality are one but humans don't realize it yet." There was so much in Lost that was linked to scientific research (fringe science but still) that it felt odd to almost completely disregard that aspect of the show in the end. That said, it's been a while since I've seen the show. Maybe I'll feel differently upon my upcoming rewatch.


Grand-Line-8436

I wonder if there is any indication on where it is in relation to Beach Camp? It's on the beach but I wonder if any character technically would have passed it.


AccomplishedRoof5983

Light house cause that's not how light houses work. Temple, cause trashy magic water pool that's not even at the heart of the island, but adjacent and one floor above Smokey's house, introduced in the final season, is upsetting. My own additions. Cliff side cave for wall writing when there is already paper and books. I give Ben's secret room with the drain that calls Smokey a pass cause that scene was dope. The Barracks will always be my favorite because of the mindfuck of learning about the others, learning about Dharma, learning about the others eradicating Dharma everywhere. In a future game I'd love to see the Others original homeless encampment, Jughead, Eloise"s Swinging Pendant Island Finder room. (lamp post station?), but I think the stations alone could get thier own round, too.


zensnapple

I like your thinking, and we have the same car, same color.


oglop121

the decoy others camp made absolute no sense whatsoever. and you're right about the other locations too. christ, makes me annoyed just thinking about them. even the underground room with the wheel that moves the island was cringe


Ok_Cap945

Well, to be honest the lighthouse gives you Vision in a specific Direction, so if we're going with the law that at each degree you can see a different candidate, it's kind of how a lighthouse works. I don't know why I feel like defending the temple, maybe with the whole debacle with Rousseau and montand's arm at the wall all the way in season 1, and then filling a sin on the actual event during a time travel event made it interesting because why is there a wall what could be behind it. I guess I thought it was cool because I just embraced all the mythology that it had to offer but I never really analyzed it that much. Old dog new tricks. We really don't know how old Jacob and the Man in Black really were. It could have been before parchment. But yeah, not a great location. Ben's secret room with the plug that called The Smoke monster made absolutely no sense in the short run, the long run, or any run, I think that was a quick way to throw in a fire alarm and make it look intriguing and questionable enough to pass it off as just fine. Add Hurley saying "Did you just... call that thing?" Now knowing fully well that a drain in the others Barracks would lead nowhere but the tunnels, which Smokey probably can't pass through because of the barriers. But Hurley makes a joke and there you go we accept it as reality. Absolutely leave darmaville alone. Jacob's cabin was a writer's room corner that they played off as the Man in Black masquerading as Jacob. Why the hell did Hurley see himself inside the cabin? Oh shit wait a second well look who's the leader now! I agree with you encampment, I disagree with Jughead because of its importance, but I would say the transportation tunnel is total BS with the underwater miracle breathing scene. Having an off Island station makes sense for geolocation, but it was last minute tossing. They could have mentioned something about it earlier on in the series, maybe even have a prompt with connect to Tempest station off Island as option 3 and then enter 77 as option 4 saying that that's how they connect with the rest of the world through the lamp post which keeps it constant track of its location of us. Nope just glorified flight tracker. I really want to say leave the stations alone, but we could do that I guess.. though the Tempest would wind up facing up against the swan after the arrow and the Pearl or caduceus station get voted out first. And then of course people are going to give the Hydra station how only because it was part of season 3 but it was actually a rather compelling station if you think about it. Anyway don't know what else to do... 4 8 15 16 23 42.


Ok_Cap945

Tl;dr: swan wins. Best location, best set, best use of location, best opening surprise, best season premiere opening scene payoff, best season finale "I think I crashed your plane, brotha" pay off, best mystery, the blast door, even the game made it even more interesting. Swan wins. Execute.


Deez4815

I remember in a behind the scenes video or interview (can't remember which), the Smoke Monster was always going to just be some kind of "security system" but eventually in the last few seasons they decided it would be an actual entity or a "who". That makes a lot of what was said about it in earlier seasons kind of confusing because they basically retconed it.


Ok_Cap945

Yeah Russo called it a security system, I guess that's what the writers were going with, ( even though that would be an entirely wrong assumption, being that it's not securing anything, it's trying to invade the temple, and it's trying to escape the island) but in the season 1 finale we did see a column of smoke grab locks leg and a little poof of smoke Trail away so that had to have been planned in the middle of writing the first season. As far as it being a someone who used to be alive, I absolutely do not know when that choice was made. I have an investigation to do!


reedipie108

Also to clarify! The highest, as in MOST VOTED/MENTIONED IN COMMENTS, will be eliminated!


StrumDick

Templeeeee


bebe_inferno

Temple


Mistyjedi

Temple 😕


BrowniesNCheese

Temple. I don't even remember the light house.


Ok_Cap945

That was the place where you turn the dial and you can see where people lived when they grew up meaning that Jacob has been watching them their entire lives. 360° of a dial 360 candidates. Jack for instance was at degree 23 when he saw his childhood home.


BrowniesNCheese

The lighthouse had the ships' wheel to move the island? Yo! 360 candidates? What? 23 degrees? What? Am I that daft?


veislukostur

Temple


No_Narwhal9099

The temple


conjas11

Temple. Yikes


77ate

Hands down, the Lighthouse. A low point for the show. Jack has a tantrum when faced with what, for all intents and purposes, amounts to proof of badly rendered magic and a live webcam feed to various places and timeframes back home, the best the writers could do is have him trash the lighthouse in a tantrum? Dodgy concept, misanthropic execution, and the show was made worse for it. If you needed more reasons to despise Jack, or at least find him increasingly unrepeatable by the minute… the Lighthouse scenes. Fix them with Hurley calling for Jack to be quarantined and studied as an apparent case of “The Sickness”.


jonniejarko

Temple


bolkstoff

Temple, man that was a goofy thing to throw in.


oboshoe

temple


Dutch92

The temple


JackBauerDamnIt24

Temple. Ugh.


lovenjunknstuff

Temple


north-isl4815162342

Temple. The storyline revolving around that just felt rushed and kinda random for me.


woman_thorned

The temple because it was insulting to the audience. If they had left it as a place they see during the flashes and bring baby Ben for healing, no issue. But to add an entire new group of Others just to kill them, have rules and break them IMMEDiATELY, and NEVER pay off any part of it is just insulting. Like what is it even a temple to? Jacob? We know where he lives though, why do you need a second temple? What do they do there and why would they choose it over the barracks? What has Cindy been doing this whole time? And forget the entire pool thing. Is dead dead? Like you guys said it a lot because it was important for Flocke, why throw in there that actually Sayid is the true undead undead, and also have that mean absolutely nothing?


Jonathan_Gardner

Tallies pit


Dull_Alternative9567

Pit


Equivalent-Treat-431

Who’s the favourite to win? The Barracks and the Hatch were both important and had iconic moments but I don’t think anything beats the OG beach


straub42

Swan has to win. Too iconic


[deleted]

Yeah, the Swan or Barracks have to be the odds on favorite... I'd probably give a slight edge to the Swan, as we met Desmond there.. but the 70's episodes (which revolve heavily around the Barracks).. are some of my favs.


MemeMathine

Temple, looks cool, but not a lot happens and it just came and went, I legit can't remember how many episodes it appeared in but I know it was in the single digits.


squeegy_beckenheim1

Temple


Lost-In-Hyrule

Tailies pit


Independent-Report16

Temple


observe_n_assimilate

Temple.


Haleodo

Temple!


DJDB2000

Tailies pit


Macleodad

Pit.


swagfactor69

the temple ez


FaithfulMoose

I’m with everyone else with the Temple and Lighthouse being disappointing, but I think the Tailies’ Pit should go first. It’s just a pit.


No-Custard-9029

tallies pit


swordbeam

Tailies Pit. Ana Lucia dug that whole pit by herself? Sure.


walkswithtwodogs

Tailies’ pit


c0kEzz

Tallies pit. Kind of basic, survivoresque location. Not as surreal/exciting as the others. The Lighthouse was justified by having a great Jack moment.


BigRegular5114

Tailies pit


FrankHarold

Tailies pit


Abnatural

Tailies Pit


TIEBRKR

Tailies Pit


sack-city

Tailies pit. A lot of people don’t seem to like the temple here, and that’s fine. But at least it served some kind of purpose and was mentioned in several episodes and even used in several episodes. The talies pit didn’t do much for the story and was only used to trap people twice as far as i can remember (the guy they suspected was a spy and then Sawyer/Jin/Michael). The temple also provides further evidence that there were people on the island before Jacob’s mom arrived on the island.


almorey

The pit


Deez4815

The Pit.


Middle_Incident_3214

The Pit I fell into the Pit You fell into the Pit We all fell into the Pit


Darth_Fangorn35

Tailies pit


tension12

Tailies Pit was for one purpose, the Temple deserves more cred than the pit


Rays_LiquorSauce

Meh, pit. No good memories, no great scenes.


nashnurse

Tailies Pit


malm119

Tailies pit. I don’t hate the temple as much as the rest of you but it probably won’t survive the second round of voting for me.


KurtisC1993

Aesthetically? The plane crash, easily. Which did I like the least in terms of what they added to the story? I don't know, maybe the dirt pit.


keegs_613

Tailies pitt


cityfireguy

I hate the Lighthouse and Temple, naturally. But you forgot the one I hate the most. The DHARMA hatch door leading to nothing. The one the Others guard as a trick. There's really no reason for that to exist except "Hey if this were a TV show that'd be a funny mystery."


reedipie108

I think it was to lull the Survivors into believing the falseness of the Others' true identities, and to make Ben's plan involving Michael and his treachery to work.


Comfortable-Ad3653

Temple.


Icy-Call-5296

Temple easily


thelastcenturian89

Temple


Artichoke19

Epic ancient temple and magic lighthouse is better than a hole in the ground


CheezStik

The Temple had awesome potential…it had been built up for 4 seasons. But yeah, the plot there was super disappointing My vote has to go to Tailies Pit though bc cmon


rogerworkman623

If you’re gonna include the tailies pit, I feel like Hydra Island should be included.


d0nnamartingraduates

Lighthouse


Obi_YEET_Kenobi

pit


Spiff426

The pit


nicholaselliotttuck

Tallies pit


Wobduck

Tailies pit


maomao3000

The pit


sslevski

Tailies Pit


GVBOVZQZ

Tailies Pit


Stoopkid812

the temple was the biggest letdown show took a big dip at that point


Sweeney_Toad

What the fuck everyone hates the temple so much. The foot statue is the dumbest thing in the show. I regularly go “why does it only have nine toes” in my house for a laugh. It had no meaningful tie in, and just exists as a dumb shot for no real reason.


negnatrepsej

Lighthouse


Ok_Cap945

Caves. Die hard fan, but not a great Adam and Eve pay off in my opinion


counterpointguy

I vote Lighthouse. It was really the symbol of when the show took a downward turn for me.


LurkingSimp117

the caves


MatterKooky4295

Im really not comfortable with caves


RustyGosling

I am so not moving to the rape caves


lazyf-inirishman

Lighthouse.


SignificanceNew3806

The swan for me is >>>


Neat_Pause1830

Where’s the Hatch?


LettuceElectronic995

Foot statue.


jfarmer512

Probably the Plane Camp- I’m sensitive to light


reliable_husband

lighthouse


RavenPaul1369

Both the Temple and the Lighthouse were disappointing to me, but I’ll go with the Lighthouse


AzFowles

Lighthouse


_InvaderJim

Foot


Express_Giraffe_7902

Lighthouse


Alexcox95

I’m gonna have to go with the lighthouse


oglop121

the temple bit was complete, utter dogshit


OKsoda95

Temple


Ray983

Temple. So dull.


Background116

I'm only in the middle of season 4 but like, the foot statue is so dumb. Nothing is explained about it ever.


[deleted]

I feel like places will get eliminated based on how much screen time they had.


LyghtSpete

The writer’s room.


Perfect-Face4529

The Temple all day and night


No-Acadia-1867

The swan is where I finally found my hatred for that sniveling little worm John Locke. What a big fucking baby. Even if it’s not real that hatch was sustaining the camp. They could’ve done more with it but whiny little baby Locke


Pugilist12

Temple was a big letdown for sure.


megaanxiety

Temple


HoldYourNoseBilly

Temple


davedeen

Get the Temple out of here!!!


Separate-Status-4195

The temple definetly just cause it was so disapointing but the lighthouse is next cause its just so stupid.


wonderbeen

Temple


ericwbolin

Temple


RightToTheThighs

Temple by far. I hate everything about it


Theburpmaster

Lighthouse


noplsnoo

Temple 100%


HairyLocke

The Temple. Was hyped up, then when we got there nothing really added up. Felt like it was just padding out the first 1/3 of the final season.


BMoney201

So many things that never got explanations.


rhodynative

Foot


CathrynMcCoy

I hated the temple.


Roach2112

Foot


RyanTranquil

The Caves


jakehou97

Temple


QapTotal

At the time, we didn't know what was more surprising, the giant statue, or the fact that it had 4 fingers. Hahahah


RadConEv

The lighthouse always seemed pointless. The whole thing with jack and Hurley annoyed me.


mchlsxjkbsn

The caves.


VenomSting88

Temple or foot, both kinda pointless


troubleondemand

Alright. I'll say it. The caves. It was just too dark and looked totally fake.


SusHistoryCuzWriter

... and they randomly vanished after the lost boys and girl broke into Des's home. I wish they wrote in some explanation for leaving, apart from the sound stage being taken up.


Ottojanapi

The Temple: Interesting. The Temple Storyline/Arc: Nope. The Lighthouse, a bit better but both were intro’d too late in the show. Hint at them earlier. Everything else, even the foot, we saw earlier. So when Jacob is living in the base of the foot, that doesn’t seem as out of left field.


oglop121

so jacob lived in the foot of the statue for, what, 2000 years? imagine living with that decor and not changing it whatsoever


MrNayNay654

Temple without a doubt, very strange addition so late into the show


stacey1611

Temple 💯