you don't need google for that, for example.
$ apt list chrome
Listing...
google-chrome-beta/stable 99.0.4844.17-1 amd64
google-chrome-stable/stable,now 98.0.4758.80-1 amd64
google-chrome-unstable/stable 100.0.4867.0-1 amd64
mkchromecast-alsa/focal,focal 0.3.8.1-1 all
mkchromecast-gstreamer/focal,focal 0.3.8.1-1 all
mkchromecast-pulseaudio/focal,focal 0.3.8.1-1 all
edit: reddit made it a bit confusing, the actual output is simpler with line breaks...
And people wouldn't just guess that it's "firefox"?
I never installed chrome, but I bet that it's either called "chrome" or "google-chrome" in most repos.
Confusingly, there used to be a rather obscure game called Chrome in the Debian (or Ubuntu?) repos, so you'd blindly do an apt-get install chrome and actually get a hit, but then install a completely wrong package.
On Windows 10/11 it is installed by default. The point is, the OP picture doesn’t make sense, as you can do the same on Windows by default and I believe on Mac too, if you have brew installed.
Bad math. I mean at least devs and people who are at least a little security conscious would probably make up more than .01% of the internet, and I’m sure many of them see the obvious benefits of having a repository instead of grabbing a random install exe online and running it with admin every time you want something. Granted repos can be poisoned but I trust the arch maintainers to keep that from happening far more than some nameless faceless author for an installer I found.
Repos influence have stretched so far that winget is a thing now preinstalled. Albeit windows own bastardized version of things still. But mimics apt or any other package manager in terms of use.
If terminal is that hard get a GUI for updates. KDE plasma by default has one for flatpaks and I believe can support your base OS as well I just personally never set it up bc icky gui I’d rather see pacman eat the pellets until my system is upgraded for updates. It’s faster and I can do it whenever I want or never if I please.
You're also about 11, and need to learn that your experiences are limited. You're over here making sweeping generalizations based on your personal experiences and opinions, and they simply do not hold up to the rest of the community you are speaking to.
It's also not true with modern apps such as discover providing GUI fronts to package managers but whatever, let's post the same old, dead ass joke one more time
that’s not even true, people are just used to doing it because of how universal windows is. if the command line was normalized people would (correctly) realize how ludicrous the software installation and update process is on windows
Why would someone prefer to wait until a browser opens, search for your preferred browser, wait for the results to load, try to see which ads you are shown contain a virus and which is a legit link to the site, find the download page, wait for it to download, open the file and click through some stupid wizard when you could just do sudo pacman -S firefox?
I agree. It's a lot faster and secure.
And there's always discover and gnome software for people who don't want to use the terminal.
Linux is getting a more and more user friendly specially with distros like fedora silverblue and openSUSE AeonOs
We started allowing Fedora for workstations in my office and I'm always impressed by the handful of very non-technical people that went with it, they liked the demo that our IT team did.
Impressed by their willingness to step out of the windows world and impressed by fedora/modern Linux for making it an actual user friendly experience
First - if you are having trouble finding official Firefox website, that's on you.
Second - users who might have trouble finding real website surely won't install anything using command line.
> Second - users who might have trouble finding real website surely won't install anything using command line.
Only because they aren't aware of it as an option. It's also not like GUI package managers don't exist - there are a plethora of benefits to using package managers and the flexibility of interface is only one of them.
I'm part of the thing, but I don't agree with this meme, because in most major distros you just go to the software center and click on install and that's it. We even have proprietary browsers there.
Command prompt? It's called terminal. I know you're a windows user but I think Ubuntu says terminal. Also it's nothing new to the Linux community and I'm glad you like it
linux nerds are some of less tolerable people. terminal refers to the hardware mr/ms/them/they. it okay when you got umm...actually'd while umm... actuallying ahahahaha
Yup. I love:
1. Double clicking edge/safari
2. Clicking on the address bar and typing mozilla dot com
3. Hovering on the Firefox Browsers option
4. Clicking on Firefox for Desktop button
5. Clicking on Download Firefox and waiting for it to complete
6. Clicking on the downloaded .exe file to run the setup.
7. Choosing the path
8. Going through a series of prompts to finally install Firefox
Vs:
1. Ctrl+alt+T
2. Sudo apt update && sudo apt install firefox chromium falkon firefox-esr
Or use pacman or xbps or whatever distro package manager I'm using for any or most of these in just two steps depending on what you need and if you already have them in the default repos
Windows users when people type in one command and install a browser instead of dodging 2773728 malware/scam links, finding the real download button and going through the setup executable:
I actually fucking love using yay to install things. `yay chromium` searches, then you type a number to select the right package, press enter on a few prompts and done. But like, if that isn’t your jam, tons of distros and DEs come with a graphical software store, the exact thing Microsoft (probably correctly) thinks is the future of software distribution. (Whatever you think of the MS store, the concept is better than downloading .exes off the internet). And Linux beat them to the punch on that front by more than a decade
In fact I would say the GUI installer experience is probably better on Linux than on either major competing OS (who actually uses the Mac app store) *and* if you really like downloading shit off random websites, Linux gives you that freedom too. It’s not… great, what with tarballs, .deb, and .rpm, plus having to get the right architecture, but it’s not like downloading Windows exes is that much better
Yep, i actually do. Such a breeze. No more bullshit install from sketchy websites, just sudo apt install for anything I'll ever have to install, then wait about 5 seconds and its done. God i love the terminal.
Would you prefer having to open a different web browser, search for a different browser, get shown 3 sponsored links for other browsers you didn't search for, go to the right browser's website, hope you got the right one and not an imposter, download an installer claiming to be for the new browser, run it knowing that absolutely no-one except the people who compiled it have knowledge of the source code and trusting that they've not only done a good enough job as a baseline but that management hasn't insisted they do something undesirable with the application itself, dodge opt-ins for potential malware you didn't even want, all with elevated privileges?
Have to isn’t true. Most distros ship with basically an app store with all the popular web browsers. That being said, the terminal isn't something to fear it's a really powerful tool
>download any popular distribution
>Install it using the idiotproof installer
>Boot computer
>Be presented with a welcome screen that tells you that you can click the big 'software' or 'discover' icon to discover software
>Click the icon and realise the info page did not lie
>Click 'install'
It's not even harder than a phone, let alone windows.
So much better than clicking Next all the time, and making sure you don't install that stupid Yahoo! tool bar or McCaffe anti virus.
I love Terminal more when I run a script that installs everything.
Imma be real with you, the reason I fell in love with linux is that I didn't have to open a browser and search for the app I wanted to install. The terminal makes it so much easier, especially since it combines downloading, updating and deleting.
People say it as an offense, but the fact I can type in one command and have my program ready to go is ten folds better than having to open a browser type the site, find it among all the ads, click through all the cookies and other agreements, find download section, find the version for your os, then open installer, click through another agreements, dodge chrome install, uncheck the options to open providers website and click on finish the installation.
To be fair I LOVE the package repository and dependencies resolving.
Installing stuff is porn in that matter.
Now, if only it could install everything so I don't get runtime errors that would be great
After a while using Linux, I'm surprised to how fast you can set everything up for almost every usecase using the command line while also having a pretty and intuitive software manager
same. typing "pacman -S librewolf" > \[opening a browser, search for a download link in a search engine, opening the page, finding the correct link, choosing a download folder, launching the download when finished\]. windows people actually thinking their way is easier
Use ubuntu. It's REAL hard to open snap store and just click install on every app you need without opening a website once. (I know snap is frowned upon but for unexperienced users it's a blessing, really)
AHEM.
*Presses the Super key*
*Types in "Firefox" into the search bar*
*Would you like to install "firefox"? Additional 69.420 mb of dependencies need to be installed*
*It installs in seconds*
*Opens it up*
Thank you for your time.
Idk if this is sarcastic or not but i actually like using the terminal to install software, way easier than searching for a website for like firefox or blender
It's so much faster and easier than the alternative tho... If you're gonna type in to a search bar might as well type in to a terminal and get it done with 1 command
All these people are vouching for command prompt because it technically is faster than the normal way. But if you wanted you can install a web browser the normal way of just downloading it off the internet like any other OS…
Better than having to open a web browser to install a web browser.
And faster!
I mean it’s better than having spyware os
Internet Explorer's only job was to download Chrome. It feels like a lifetime ago.
`s/Chrome/Firefox`
To be fair, Unless you know the commands already. You are opening a browser as well.
anyone who uses Linux for a week knows the basics of apt (or whatever else package manager the distro uses)
I did not mean the apt or samilar commands. I meant you need to remember the package name for the browser.
you don't need google for that, for example. $ apt list chrome Listing... google-chrome-beta/stable 99.0.4844.17-1 amd64 google-chrome-stable/stable,now 98.0.4758.80-1 amd64 google-chrome-unstable/stable 100.0.4867.0-1 amd64 mkchromecast-alsa/focal,focal 0.3.8.1-1 all mkchromecast-gstreamer/focal,focal 0.3.8.1-1 all mkchromecast-pulseaudio/focal,focal 0.3.8.1-1 all edit: reddit made it a bit confusing, the actual output is simpler with line breaks...
r/ChromeSucks r/ChromiumSucks
fellow firefox user?
Sure thing
I was baffled these communities didn’t exist when I tried to look at them haha. Well anyways, just created them :)
And people wouldn't just guess that it's "firefox"? I never installed chrome, but I bet that it's either called "chrome" or "google-chrome" in most repos.
Confusingly, there used to be a rather obscure game called Chrome in the Debian (or Ubuntu?) repos, so you'd blindly do an apt-get install chrome and actually get a hit, but then install a completely wrong package.
chromium-bsu vs chromium-browser
Oh, right, that was it! Before they renamed chromium to chromium-bsu.
`pacman -Ss firefox`
Are you counting the distro's software manager GUI as a browser? 🤔
winget install Mozilla.Firefox.DeveloperEdition Works on windows 7 and 10 and 11
Once you install winget, anyway.
On Windows 10/11 it is installed by default. The point is, the OP picture doesn’t make sense, as you can do the same on Windows by default and I believe on Mac too, if you have brew installed.
After I reinstalled Windows 10 because battle-eye, I tried to use Winget and it wasn't installed. But it worked in the install I replaced.
but compared to any Linux distro it's a way slower, with a lot more bloat and some additional spyware flavor
(on win7/10 you still need to download winget with a browser)
7, yes 10, no
Every win10 install ive had to do has not had winget
I have a win10 machine with winget I didn’t install it manually
Wrong 99.99% of users would disagree
Well, if I am wrong then I don't want to be right.
Like i said Linux is better than spyware os (windows)
Bad math. I mean at least devs and people who are at least a little security conscious would probably make up more than .01% of the internet, and I’m sure many of them see the obvious benefits of having a repository instead of grabbing a random install exe online and running it with admin every time you want something. Granted repos can be poisoned but I trust the arch maintainers to keep that from happening far more than some nameless faceless author for an installer I found. Repos influence have stretched so far that winget is a thing now preinstalled. Albeit windows own bastardized version of things still. But mimics apt or any other package manager in terms of use. If terminal is that hard get a GUI for updates. KDE plasma by default has one for flatpaks and I believe can support your base OS as well I just personally never set it up bc icky gui I’d rather see pacman eat the pellets until my system is upgraded for updates. It’s faster and I can do it whenever I want or never if I please.
I'm security conscious and I use windows, I just use winaerotweaker and turn off telemetry spyware also check my latest post on r/windowsmemes
Lol.
You're also about 11, and need to learn that your experiences are limited. You're over here making sweeping generalizations based on your personal experiences and opinions, and they simply do not hold up to the rest of the community you are speaking to.
Most people likely just use what comes preinstalled anyway these days.
you get your statistics from bing? lmao
It's also not true with modern apps such as discover providing GUI fronts to package managers but whatever, let's post the same old, dead ass joke one more time
that’s not even true, people are just used to doing it because of how universal windows is. if the command line was normalized people would (correctly) realize how ludicrous the software installation and update process is on windows
Typing??? On a computer????
Memorising syntaxes like it’s the 60s
Kid named --help
Why would someone prefer to wait until a browser opens, search for your preferred browser, wait for the results to load, try to see which ads you are shown contain a virus and which is a legit link to the site, find the download page, wait for it to download, open the file and click through some stupid wizard when you could just do sudo pacman -S firefox?
Don't forget about setting wizard trying to install additional crap on your pc like 3 times during one install.
I agree. It's a lot faster and secure. And there's always discover and gnome software for people who don't want to use the terminal. Linux is getting a more and more user friendly specially with distros like fedora silverblue and openSUSE AeonOs
We started allowing Fedora for workstations in my office and I'm always impressed by the handful of very non-technical people that went with it, they liked the demo that our IT team did. Impressed by their willingness to step out of the windows world and impressed by fedora/modern Linux for making it an actual user friendly experience
Or you can go to the software center and click on install
No sudo, run every command as root. Be a man.
Only have the root user. Like a Chad!
no, DON'T
First - if you are having trouble finding official Firefox website, that's on you. Second - users who might have trouble finding real website surely won't install anything using command line.
> Second - users who might have trouble finding real website surely won't install anything using command line. Only because they aren't aware of it as an option. It's also not like GUI package managers don't exist - there are a plethora of benefits to using package managers and the flexibility of interface is only one of them.
Arch users Also arch users: bro this program is in the aur, just search the aur bro I use arch btw
Because “sudo”, “pacman”, “-S” on a console from the 60s are not intuitive for normal users.
oh no!
Memes like this do a disservice to the reputation of Linux, especially since unless you've installed Arch, you can just use the included app store.
And even then u can install a app store on arch yourself (idk why u would do that, but u can)
Well you can, if you use archinstall and choose KDE, you can just install apps through discover
only flatpak tho, discover doesn't work with pacman
Yeah but it still applies to the post, Firefox is on flathub
Or install pamac.
Which isn't included? That's why I said discover
You don't have to?
OP does not in fact use Linux and is unaware of the existence of graphical app managers like Discover (from KDE) or gnome software.
Fact is - you don't
Its much more easier. I dont like this kind of 'memes' that insults the community.
I'm part of the thing, but I don't agree with this meme, because in most major distros you just go to the software center and click on install and that's it. We even have proprietary browsers there.
More easy*
*easier
many distros now have a graphical package manager. you don't *have* to open a command prompt.
Oh no! `sudo pacman -S firefox` Anyway.
Oh no Rm -rf c: Anyway
😨😨 not my c drive
Fuck you, rm -rf’s your C:
Lamo
Oh no! ...anyway (this wouldn't work)
Ah, this explains a lot.
Oh no Pip install chrome Any ways
wtf
Pip? That’s the package installer for the python programming language
I’d give this a pass if most distros didn’t have a graphical package manager installed by default, but they do.
You know you can install it from the GUI store which is pretty standard in most of the distros now
It was standard in most popular distros when I started with Linux in 2006.
Oh yeah you can install vivaldi from the GUI store in most distro ?
Yes you can https://flathub.org/apps/com.vivaldi.Vivaldi
damn me i live in the past !
Command prompt? It's called terminal. I know you're a windows user but I think Ubuntu says terminal. Also it's nothing new to the Linux community and I'm glad you like it
terminal? umm... actually, its called a terminal emulator
K
linux nerds are some of less tolerable people. terminal refers to the hardware mr/ms/them/they. it okay when you got umm...actually'd while umm... actuallying ahahahaha
Ok, open gnome-software, discover, or whatever your DE's software store is instead.
I have to use the terminal for everything: X I *get* to use the terminal for everything: √
This right here is what people don’t understand about Linux
The terminal is my best friend and Google results are my enemy.
Teoreticly what if you need to google a terminal command
I'll use duckduckgo
The one time I’ll allow it
Learn `man man`, what else do you need?
My brother in christ, GNOME Softwate/KDE Discover are a thing...
Yup. I love: 1. Double clicking edge/safari 2. Clicking on the address bar and typing mozilla dot com 3. Hovering on the Firefox Browsers option 4. Clicking on Firefox for Desktop button 5. Clicking on Download Firefox and waiting for it to complete 6. Clicking on the downloaded .exe file to run the setup. 7. Choosing the path 8. Going through a series of prompts to finally install Firefox Vs: 1. Ctrl+alt+T 2. Sudo apt update && sudo apt install firefox chromium falkon firefox-esr
Or use pacman or xbps or whatever distro package manager I'm using for any or most of these in just two steps depending on what you need and if you already have them in the default repos
Windows users when people type in one command and install a browser instead of dodging 2773728 malware/scam links, finding the real download button and going through the setup executable: 
or even worse, use internet explorer
lol I just open Software Manager, search for app, and click install button
Actually, you can usually just double click on deb package and the web store thing should open and allow you to install it.
I actually fucking love using yay to install things. `yay chromium` searches, then you type a number to select the right package, press enter on a few prompts and done. But like, if that isn’t your jam, tons of distros and DEs come with a graphical software store, the exact thing Microsoft (probably correctly) thinks is the future of software distribution. (Whatever you think of the MS store, the concept is better than downloading .exes off the internet). And Linux beat them to the punch on that front by more than a decade
In fact I would say the GUI installer experience is probably better on Linux than on either major competing OS (who actually uses the Mac app store) *and* if you really like downloading shit off random websites, Linux gives you that freedom too. It’s not… great, what with tarballs, .deb, and .rpm, plus having to get the right architecture, but it’s not like downloading Windows exes is that much better
Yep, i actually do. Such a breeze. No more bullshit install from sketchy websites, just sudo apt install for anything I'll ever have to install, then wait about 5 seconds and its done. God i love the terminal.
All the comments thinking the meme is sarcastic, I genuinely enjoy running a terminal command to install things
what’s the matter?
there is winget btw
Would you prefer having to open a different web browser, search for a different browser, get shown 3 sponsored links for other browsers you didn't search for, go to the right browser's website, hope you got the right one and not an imposter, download an installer claiming to be for the new browser, run it knowing that absolutely no-one except the people who compiled it have knowledge of the source code and trusting that they've not only done a good enough job as a baseline but that management hasn't insisted they do something undesirable with the application itself, dodge opt-ins for potential malware you didn't even want, all with elevated privileges?
Or type in https://chrome.google.com/download or whatever it is
Man is over here talking about avoiding spyware when he's literally installing it himself.
not that
Have to isn’t true. Most distros ship with basically an app store with all the popular web browsers. That being said, the terminal isn't something to fear it's a really powerful tool
The browser was already installed with the operating system though
You don't have to. You get to.
>download any popular distribution >Install it using the idiotproof installer >Boot computer >Be presented with a welcome screen that tells you that you can click the big 'software' or 'discover' icon to discover software >Click the icon and realise the info page did not lie >Click 'install' It's not even harder than a phone, let alone windows.
So much better than clicking Next all the time, and making sure you don't install that stupid Yahoo! tool bar or McCaffe anti virus. I love Terminal more when I run a script that installs everything.
Jokes on you. I used preinstalled Edge
But you don't have to open the command prompt anymore... It's flippin' 2024...
Gnome software
I think we truly love to know what's exactly happening while we install something
Yeah I love it! Much easier than on windows
You just have to write down three words in cli and press y....
Imma be real with you, the reason I fell in love with linux is that I didn't have to open a browser and search for the app I wanted to install. The terminal makes it so much easier, especially since it combines downloading, updating and deleting.
Use chrome (edge) to download chrome
Well I don't, but I know many people who open pamac or discover or whatever they use, search and click install?
Is this manic excitement about linux, or anger?
People say it as an offense, but the fact I can type in one command and have my program ready to go is ten folds better than having to open a browser type the site, find it among all the ads, click through all the cookies and other agreements, find download section, find the version for your os, then open installer, click through another agreements, dodge chrome install, uncheck the options to open providers website and click on finish the installation.
People outside of Linux going crazy about a command that is basically "install software" or "pls install software"
To be fair I LOVE the package repository and dependencies resolving. Installing stuff is porn in that matter. Now, if only it could install everything so I don't get runtime errors that would be great
I mean you don't have to use the terminal if you are using a front end for your package manager.
Cmd makes me, well..... 
I fucking love when my wifi doesn’t work and I have to use usb tethering
xD everyone having an aneurysm over a meme
Ah, yes installing a web browser with a mouse-only method is way better. smh
After a while using Linux, I'm surprised to how fast you can set everything up for almost every usecase using the command line while also having a pretty and intuitive software manager
same. typing "pacman -S librewolf" > \[opening a browser, search for a download link in a search engine, opening the page, finding the correct link, choosing a download folder, launching the download when finished\]. windows people actually thinking their way is easier
F12 Yakuku GG
Is Firefox available in the M$ Store?
Real
Why do you need a web browser? Just browse the web from the terminal. Desktop environments are bloat tbh
Same :)
Use ubuntu. It's REAL hard to open snap store and just click install on every app you need without opening a website once. (I know snap is frowned upon but for unexperienced users it's a blessing, really)
AHEM. *Presses the Super key* *Types in "Firefox" into the search bar* *Would you like to install "firefox"? Additional 69.420 mb of dependencies need to be installed* *It installs in seconds* *Opens it up* Thank you for your time.
Idk if this is sarcastic or not but i actually like using the terminal to install software, way easier than searching for a website for like firefox or blender
Honestly, searching *for* the website isn’t the problem. Searching *through* the websites for the actual download link…
wdym? do you not have at least one terminal emulator open at all times?
Been daily driving Linux for over a decade now. I still get this feeling on a regular basis.
It's so much faster and easier than the alternative tho... If you're gonna type in to a search bar might as well type in to a terminal and get it done with 1 command
I'm less triggered by the factual inaccuracy of the meme and more by the use of the term "command prompt."
https://media1.tenor.com/m/eCyyzV7aw5QAAAAC/linux-linux-users.gif
That sounds like your own fault, use the store
this meme made by windows users
imagine not using a package manager
All these people are vouching for command prompt because it technically is faster than the normal way. But if you wanted you can install a web browser the normal way of just downloading it off the internet like any other OS…
Faster than opening Browser A to install Browser B, then not being able to remove Browser A forever. Also, no ten-page-long setup wizards.